He should’ve been training with the goal to be Kyrie-level skilled. He has better physical tools than Kyrie so he can’t use the excuse that he’s not 6’8 like his pops. No reason why with his resources he didn’t get closer to Kyrie’s skill-level, especially with Kyrie on his father’s team during important formative years. He’s basically 6’2 Ben Simmons. I bet Lebron never put Kyrie as the goal in Bronny’s head (maybe cause he was hoping Bronny would end up much taller) and now Bronny won’t get to be the Griffey Jr to Lebron. With all that said…are we sure Bronny even wants any of this? Or just feels compelled to fulfill his father’s dreams?
Kinda reminds me of Lonzo Ball when he was on the Lakers and how he was always super passive to the point where he was rarely looking for his own shot. But once he got to Chicago he started to be more aggressive offensively and having a steady balance of when to score and when to faclitate. Same with Tyrese Haliburton, when he was on the Kings he was very passive until he got to Indiana and found a balance. I think with time and developement, Bronny will develop into that.
What Chicago? Lol wannabe fans clean your facts! Lonzo shot a lot in his rookie and 2nd season but shot with LOW EFFICIENCY coupled with a BROKEN jumpshot. It was only in PELICANS where he changed his shot LITERALLY and became above average 3pt shooter.
Yeah, I think it's a confidence issue. You can be a scorer without having an unhealthy ego. He could also be holding back because of prior health issues.
@@KingKluch It's a weird narrative. Pass your way to the NBA. I don't think any current NBA team wants a 4ppg passer. You can do both and if you can't score more than 4 in college, good luck scoring in the NBA.
@@pattdor7WRONG. If you have the ability to get buckets and don’t you’re hurting the team. The more you can get your own shot the more your teammates will be open. Coach Pop had to explain this to Boris Diaw.
It really won't make any difference. He's a G leaguer at best. Donovan Mitchell is a great example of what Bronny needs to aspire to, but the only thing Bronny has is some athleticism. The rest of his game isn't even average.
I've always played this way. I make "too many of the best plays" like you said. I always thought since I was the best passer, I was the best point guard. But a great PG makes the best move, including a scoring move.
That's right. Best PG needs to know when to go and when to pass, when to look to score and when to look to create. Defenses are too good today for a purely passing PG. Ricky Rubio is retired at 31.
Totally agree with what you said about overpassing being another form of selfish basketball because it protects oneself from risk at the detriment of the team's ability to get a clean look. It's pretty frustrating how playmakers passing up decent looks, or passing off the ball without actually making a play can get characterised as 'playing with no ego' or 'making the right play'. Shooters tanking their percentages to keep shooting on a bad night because coach communicates to them that they need to shoot in order for the team to maintain spacing, now that's unselfishness.
@@timboslice8559Exactly. A few instances Bronny needed to shoot the ball but its never a bad idea to make the extra pass when needed for the open look. Its just good basketball. Bronny if he makes it to the league was never going to be Lebron james,.... scoring every minute anyway. All he needs to do is be a lil bit more aggressive and take the shots when open. He would fit right into a golden state warriors roster easily.
@@ralphpinkins5619bro forget Lebron James. Right now, Bronny ain’t even gonna be Mike James. Dude in the vid is right - if you don’t stat pad in college against backups then scouts will question whether or not you even have the ability to score at a high level. He doesn’t look like an NBA player at all right now.
@@roscoedash6673 you think scouts cant tell that your stat padding? You think because you stat pad that indicates to a scout that youre NBA ready? Trust, they know the difference. The game is mental. How many first pick, first rounders have transitioned to the NBA and went bust? quite a few. How many NBA players right now riding the bench are way worse than Bronny? Several. Averaging a point a game in some cases. Thats not Bronnys problem here. More aggression/ confidence when needed and picking his spots and hes fine. That will easily increase get him 10-15ppg. He wont be drafted first round or anything crazy like that but theres potential there enough for a team to take a flyer on him and draft him in later rounds. Hes dad is the star of the league. And the NBA aint about basketball , its about money. If skillset were the requirement to get on, half the league wouldnt exist. So lets be real.
@@wzrdhndrixx7089 all for nothing, now he an after thought. I love Ben but he had size speed and mass, Bronny an under sized combo guard coming off a heart problem, when he gets his rhythm back he will meet expectations unlike Ben who is supposed to be an all star player by now and he’s not.
You just described how teams can figure out who is going to be a bust and the most important thing in a prospectCONFIDENCE . Not that arrogant yappin but that humility with aggression subtle agression which i saw u know about . I sense you probably played ball and understand how fear is a biggest killer and its not outside but your perception of things and self image as you said and negative view of the world which just is . The mind and the more you can be free not just in basketball but in life is really the most important thing determining your success. Ay you earned a follower .
Lol plenty of Bust have CONFIDENCE but they might not just understand how to play in a NBA system. They’re plenty of other factors to players being bust outside of having confidence .
Many kids, these days, are not truly learning basketball such as how to read offenses and defenses properly. You can see it in how they play. Bronny is one of them. He doesn't recognize when to make certain plays.
@@kokushibo6823he probably can, millions of regular hoopers who can’t all go to the NBA because they only have 30 teams KNOW how to play basketball. It’s shocking I know but it’s true
@@kokushibo6823 I can. I don't have his athleticism but I was a good player. I was pass first point guard. I would have definitely recognized a lot of what Bronny isn't seeing.
#4 is a computer science major and has a chill RU-vid channel as thisisroy. Really chill guy, too bad his bike got stolen though. He has more subs then DOR.
Damn, good video and analysis. However, I just realized I been playing just like Bronny.... passive and not killing these fools at the gym. I do love passing and I am a playmaker, but I've been injured the last year and it has me hesitant to be as aggressive as I use to be when I know I can cook. Thank you! I'm about to merk these guys tomorrow.
Man I’m new here, but this is what I truly miss about real sport’s analyst; breaking down the game, and giving your take on the game. Hats off to you PattDor! Keep it up 👍. There is a crowd of ppl that loves these type of breakdowns of the game. Oh the Jordan Poole take was hilarious but true at the same time!
I think it’s a combination of being lebrons son he feels like he has to go out of his way to be unselfish and his pops drilling basketball iq into him as far as making the play. His jumper is knockdown but I don’t think he knows what he wants his shot / shots to be. Like he doesn’t have a go to
No, Lebron became a passing guy in his later years starting in he’s second stint with Cleveland. Bring is a pass first because he ain’t as good offensively. He’s always had to pass to better players, it became second nature to him.
@@MOMO-m0m0 I know what I read. I'm saying he's never been a pass-first guy at any point in his career. He's always been a good passer but he has never been a pass-first player.
@@skinnytimmy1 so your reading comprehension is also poor. I said Lebron became a “passing guy”. Passing became a strong suit for him in his later years. I’m not gonna edit it yet but “Bring” is meant to say “Bronny”
Just stumbled across this and started listening and couldn't agree more. Been playing and coaching for 25 years and in order to make the league Bronny has to stand out and take risk. Period.
He reminds me of John stockton when stockton was transitioning from highschool to college game. hard nose defender, finding angles and himself as a player.
@@zzz.tyrone nope, he wouldnt have to be score first. his play style works when you surround him with wing scoring and a big equally adept at P&P as P&R. Like a Joel Embiid or KAT.
All true bro, the lack of aggression is what gets me the most about his game, he just as good as alot of gaurds people say are better than him but he just does not go after his own shot smh
Bronny is a 'nice' guy and theres nothing wrong with that. He can adjust to be more selfish, he just has to do it. He doesnt want guys to hate him. Also, he's not lebron's size. He got brons athleticism, but not the size. If lebron was 6'3"...do you think he'd be who he is now? Nah
Also bronny might be a little nervous about his heart condition. The boy could be stressed about how much he can push himself. You have no idea whats goin on with him physically. To have a condition like that really sux. Even if its in remission, its probably always in the back of his mind that something could go wrong and maybe he should hold back full effort
@@maelguiraud3568 thats true, but when you're young, its hard to be wise to it. When youre on a team, you want everyone to accept you and especially as a freshman its easy to defer to the older guys to keep peace
You hit the nail on the head, look to attack which OPENS your looks to pass, Bronny is doing the opposite. I only disasgree with you saying hes "making too much of the right play" his coach could be making him take less risks, dependent on the coaching style, but again, him developing his offensive game through the looks you mentioned, would defo make him more of a threat
Passing is my favorite part of basketball (I'm odd, I know). But a couple years ago an older dude took me aside after a pickup game and told me, "you're one of the best players on the court, I know you like to pass, but you gotta get yours first, so the defense always has to worry about you scoring. If you are the biggest threat to score, your passing will be elevated even higher" Its something I think about a lot. Trying to balance the two is not always easy, especially for Bronny who has a lot of outside pressure.
This man is nice with the analysis. When he blows up on RU-vid, I could definitely see you going on TV as a pro. But then again, you'd have so much more freedom as an independent creator.
The college game is a passing game. That’s what college coaches emphasize. That’s why you have players like Fred Van Fleet comes to mind. Nobody knew he was a scorer till he got to the NBA
I think that's what makes a guy like Jokic special. He's not looking to pass, he's looking to make the best play; when he has an edge, he takes it, when his teammate has a edge, he passes it. Being able to recognize when *you* are the right option is a skill playmakers need to develop.
He’s not aggressive looking for his own shot . And it’s the Roster he’s on . Isiah Collier was the #1 player coming into college and Boogie Ellis is a sophmore or a junior that avg 20 the previous year
a facilitator with little ability and/or desire to get his own bucket is at the very best a Draymond Green or Ben Simmons type player. Even then, averaging double digits in points is the bare minimum for facilitators like Dray and Ben. Then you consider that they both didn’t even start out as the niche pure facilitators. Then you consider those two are really only worth anything on the court because they have secondary roles in addition to being facilitators which is elite defense and rebounding.
I feel this. My dad was always telling me to look for more shots. I look back on my HS years and I have to agree. I’m not saying I was D1, but I was averaging maybe 5-6 a game as a senior. I had a really good post game but I looked for my teammates a lot when I probably could have scored much more.
Basically anyone in the NBA under 6'9 (and even most people over that height) got into the league off of their scoring ability. It may not necessarily translate to that at the next level (pat bev or tony allen for example), but to be a truly top level player, you have to be a legitimate scoring threat. It seems obvious when you read it but most fans don't understand that most players that get drafted and basically every one that gets a second and third contract are constantly scanning the floor looking for the worst defenders, screening off and attempting to get switches onto that person, and then attacking them to give themselves the best chance at scoring on said person. Its good to move the ball obviously, but if you get the ball into the hands of the person who's being guarded by Isaiah Thomas or Kelly Olynyk or any other number of defenders with a specific key weakness, you have to get into your bag and score on that person, or you can go play in china.
Most people when they are told to “pass more” they simple think that means stop shooting and swing the rock. But what it really means is to continue to be aggressive but when you get to those scoring zones, look for your team mates more often. Great passes and passing angles are created by attacking and reading. Not being passive.
and jrue holiday really wasn't an above average secondary playmaker until his make-it-or-break-it season before contraction renegotiations in new orleans @@latenightthinker4737
right. I had to learn this as a young kid too. I was just like Bronny looking for the smart pass and not being aggressive and my teammates would freeze me out and I never understood why. I had the ability to get to the basket and get a high percentage shot but I feared looking dumb or not making the best possible play. Learning how to play freely and become a force at the same time is key to the game. I think Bronny may feel too much pressure on him to be the smartest player on the floor at any time due to Bron’s ability to do play by plays. When your dad mentally probes the game like that, no wonder Bronny is so cautious with his play. But it’s going to get in his way if he wants to play in the league. He has to learn to let go and take what’s his. Sometimes you have to just play your game and not worry about the outcome of the play. I didn’t learn in time and I eventually lost my offensive ability and I’m too old. Young cautious players like me please be careful not to fall into this trap. Scoring is the name of the game and when you don’t take your share of that responsibility you handicap your team. Make the play even if you look stupid.
Deferring and passing is good if you actually have great teammates. I won’t use Lebron as an example because people hate that man so much lol but Duncan letting Parker and Ginobili or later Kawhi cook was a benefit to the team opposed to Duncan demanding 20 plus shots a night, which he could’ve averaged 3-5 more ppg if he didn’t defer to help his teammates get going.
i don’t think it’s a skill issue with Bronny. Part of he feels like he plays so passive because he doesn’t want to be in the spotlight so much nor does he want to try and be great and potentially fail and deal with all the backlash. I think he actually likes to hide behind other really good players because it will put less attention on him as well as less expectations of trying to be like/live up to the level of greatness his father has reached as a player
Nah, his handle is weak, he doesn't have a reliable shot. He also gets too much praise for "playing the right way". If that handle was better, he'd look to score more
deadass ! well said. been thinking this. he's throwing away all of the opportunity so he can save himself. takes no risk. we just need to stop thinking about him. we really shouldnt even be talking about him. he's only in the conversation because of pops period
You make many accurate observations. At 4:07, USC is down by 24 points. If the guard can blow by a defender in transition, he should do it. Coach probably told him the same thing.
It’s like if he sees a pass, he’s going for it 100% of the time. It takes his entire team trailing him in transition or the perfect shot for him to pull the trigger. Attacking close outs, putting pressure on the defense is what superstars do. Honestly he needs to play faster and use his speed and quickness better. It’ll open passing lanes and get him way better looks
Ima have to listen to my man later, but that’s a great breakdown😀👍🏾! You should send this to Bronny immediately! You’re gonna make him a completely new player over the next 6 months… #GetOnThePayroll💰
Him not being aggressive is probably the best starting position when he starts playing in NBA. Pick any team - you will not be that guy who gets to do whatever you want, you will be on the assist part. I defo agree he needs to be more aggressive off the ball, but the main vector of his development was correct. Teams need proper PGs who can dictate the game rather than finish - too many finishers in NBA right now.
But look at the stats of almost every NBA role player in high school and college. Even role players were putting up huge numbers. They're absolute stars, and then convert into their role. Even Pat Beverly was balling out as a high volume scorer. Draymond had a deep bag in college. Lastly, the real problem is Bronny just isnt efficient AND is low volume. 62% from free throw isnt gonna cut it as a low volume shoot first undersized guard.
@@DrWNoLs i do not find this surprising because role players are mostly catch and shoot players - and in College they never pass, they take the opportunity to score if it is given. I certainly believe Bronny will be okay in NBA, scoring is not that hard to develop - understanding the game is much harder.
I've noticed trying to tame a Lion is far better than trying to get a Gazelle to be a Lion. In other words, if Bronny was aggressive and didn't pass the ball, that'd be better than him trying to be aggressive because he's too passive.
@@mvpfocus yeh Bronny is a good kid. He's already passive, imagine that alongside the nba media and expectations and constant criticism he would face just for being LeBron's son..
Bronny is generally playing the best style for his development towards the NBA. He’s below avg in size and therefore needs to build up his intuition as a future floor general more gradually than his more athletic counterparts. This works especially bc there’s no need in his situation to rack up attention-worthy stats knowing he can cash in his image for a spot in the NBA anytime he wants. As such, he’s simply maximizing his exp and team value by making the right plays, and eventually as this becomes 2nd nature to him he’ll develop a more offensive style
Bruhh this is what I’ve been saying! He’s got all of the tools and skills, but it’s his mentality is what is truly lacking. He lacks that selfishness that you need to get to the highest level. He has flashes but he just needs to be consistent with it.
Yall need to watch podcast p interview with Gilbert arens. He said the exact same thing about bronny. But he did said if he was ever to flip that switch, he will go crazy.
I was like Bronny when I played highschool basketball. Yes he needs a little bit more aggressive in taking open shots but theres nothing wrong with his style of play and making the extra pass when needed. Thats just smart basketball. I dont watch or follow USC basketball despite living across the street from the campus. I dont know if these apply to Bronny but for me it was: 1. I was getting consistent double teams as I usually was one of the best players on the floor for my team and the opposing team knew it. The minute the double came, I would have to pass out. 2. Incompetent / selfish teammates. If the opposing team knows that everyone on your team is a** and dont know what they doing but you. They just key off on you , shut you down , and they got the game. Plus none of my teammates would pass the ball and try to play one on one basketball because everybody wanna be a scorer even when they trash. Theres many ways to impact a game , its not just based on scoring only. ie: golden state. What makes them so successful is the whole team plays as a unit. They pass and move to get wide open buckets, they dont force it. That will lead to more aggression from Bronny as the lanes open up and the shot opportunities present themselves.
Your assessment is something I’ve always and about Bronny since hs and that’s why casuals rate him so low. Playing the smart way making the right pass all the time isn’t very effective in college and high school because if you’re playing with amateur iq players it’s useless
NBA scouts aren’t just box score watching. They watch film. His passing ability and selflessness will benefit his stock but I do agree there are shots he passes up that he should be taking.
Having crazy stats doesn’t guarantee that you’ll be a lottery draft pick. Devin Booker only played one year at Kentucky and barely averaged 10.0PPG and was a first round draft pick coming off the bench in college
Thank you I agree that having numbers versus being on a bad team and not putting up any numbers definitely going to get you more notice but just because you get on a bad team and just hunt shots and just be aggressive and just look off the team that doesn’t mean that you’re gonna get drafted
Your analysis might be right for anybody who is NOT Bronny James. And because he is the son of LeBron, he can continue to make the right plays(which was basically every play displayed in this video with the exception of a defensive mishap), all while developing. He is already league bound, but whats important is what team drafts him(fit-wise without forcing the narrative of him playing with his dad) and that ppl have realistic expectations about the player he can become.
