How Powerful is Pyromane? 

Considering it's much like a fiery Shadowmane - the Shadowmane already being a very powerful tame - the Pyromane always seemed super strong to me, especially due to its healing ability.

Even if they were a very weak combat tame they'd still be overpowered really, there's just too many abilities loaded onto a single creature. Any one of it's utilities would make something worth taming really, e.g: - On-demand shoulder pet/mount transformation? Fantastic for small caves, worth taming - Lights all your forges/fires passively? worth taming early game - Jerky production? worth taming - Let's you run across/swim in lava? absolutely worth taming So many of arks creatures are just obsolete and need some love, adding a new creature that does half a dozen things at once, ALL of which are useful, it's just too much.

Funny, I was thinking just yesterday how broken these probably are against the dragon.

Wildcard saw this and said... yeah this is fine

I could feel my blood pressure rising the entire video. Someone at wildcard has absolutely lost their mind.

36:05 Tip: You can press the END key, to hide dino names. You can still see all the other HUD info, and you can still see dino names that are very close to you. This helps a lot when you have so many dinos near you.

Another video lets go. Big love for all the work you do Raas.

I remember that ASA was supposed to be a free upgrade to those who already had ASE. And now they are even charging the players to get "new" creatures. Also let's not forget about the CEO that sank so much money into a failing car company. Instead of using it for their most successful game being ASE.

Instead of fixing their game or making sure QA testing is done correctly, they prefer to push you paid mods and more paid DLC. I am getting really sick of constantly getting stuck in dinos bodies and just having to accept death or stuck inside terrain. The devs need to be replaced

I like the pyromane just kinda wish it wasn't a complete reskine of the shadowmane especially since reskined creatures in ark incredibly rare and topically reserved for untameble cave creatures

I think they should have done what they did in fjordur. Made the pyromane a boss and get one after defeating it.

Wow perfect fir the Dragon Boss Fight , ty Raas for this video !

Let's say that Fantastical Tames was an 8.99 combo pack with like 6 promised tames, I feel like people would be a little bit more okay with it.

love your videos Raas

Yo, you answered all the questions man! Very intuitive and informational, good work raas.

To use the flamethrower you have to have flame absorbed first. That's why the flamethrower icon was displaying 0. You had no fuel

Nice Pyromane guide!

Great video Raas, keep up the good work

such a great journey raas cant wait for next one!

You can also flame leap into a bunch of things to start them on fire (jump and aim in front of them, or down if they are close).. it will set everything nearby on fire.. and you can absorb

I’m fairly certain there is a cave in the scar that has water in it on scorched earth now, me and my tribe mate found it by accident.

Hey Raas, brain freeze headaches had me down a few days, but finally got to watch another great vid from you. Trying to catch up with your vids, but the headaches have been bad lately. Anyways, thanks again for the awesome content. I'm playing solo SP on Arkopolis map with Shiny Dinos mod and the map has all island bosses and the Manticore ! These bosses also spawn on the map and roam for awhile before de-spawning. I'm going to try them on Manticore, and see how they do, when my heads good. Hope you're enjoying Omega mod, I got mid tier before taking a break from it, great mod to provide you plenty of content and streams. have a wonderful Holiday vacation mate.

i wonder if tropical wyverns will be able to douse these once crystal isle drops?

My inner voice is screaming Diplo at you the whole time

So pros and cons, pros: easy to tame, makes jerky, lights fire based structures, doesn’t require a saddle but still has armor, heals, does fire damage, great for mobility, immune to fire damage including from the dragon boss, immune to lava including the lava in the tek cave, cooks meat in inventory and has the standard tameable, rideable and breedable abilities, can turn into a shoulder pet to fit in caves and from your shoulder functions as a flamethrower turret and sets stuff on fire. Cons: gets weaker when touching water including the rain, costs 5 dollars to use, deals damage to allies when using the leap, due to them being small they have trouble with distracting bosses from the yuty, due to their size and their leaps they could fall in the pit in the Megapithecus boss arena, their saddle armor is capped at 60 and they actually have pretty bad melee damage to stuff immune to their fire damage, definitely an S tier creature but I wouldn’t say they’re too OP

Surprised they didn't do so well on Dragon, I thought that would be their element. Tek Cave is really surprising, your run is almost as fast as the people who cheese it with parachutes down the cave and shoot the Overseer from the roof.

Just giving credit where I saw it: RU-vidr Striff built a stone trap on a raft and took the pyromane to one of the easier areas and attacked turtles, was able to get most taming done on one turtle

It’s on Scortched Earth too

That thing is op af, I think we're all going to complain about it for a while but everyone's going to get it, then when the novelty wears off you'll hardly see them outside of novelty pets. I don't think it will be a problem for long, they are cool though.

I perfect tamed my lvl150 using turtles (Carbonemys), with the odd dodo to reset the timer. With how tanky they are, you can keep applying the flame effect over and over on the same turtle.

Love this thing!

a tip for spreading your manes/tames around bosses is to set groups of them to different ordering groups, so like 4 groups and toggle the groups and whistle move to help spread them about.

I love the taming process, so unique

the pyromane seems to have more spawns in an around the wyvern trench than they have on the center map from my experience so i find it easy to drop them in the water a red ob to tame them got some really nice colours from the trench

I was pretty happy with the shadowmanes. I got mine up enough to duo a Titanosaur. The unridden one was half dead, but they got things done lol.

Actually the Tek Cave was Alpha but the overseer was Gamma. I had the same problem and had to run it three time's until it actually ported me to the Alpha Overseer. Anyway, great video bruv.

Primitive crossbow does indeed work, and you don't need to lead it out of the water to ride it, it will sink to the floor of the water when it does the roar and you can get on it. I've seen someone tame a high level with just wood spears as well.

Thank you for using 1x rates, for us who are on official it really sets expectations.

heck of a vid Raas, nice one. I feel like the pyromane should've been a shoulder tame only but even that is OP lol there is no doubt its OP. I'm just not a fan of the idea off premium dinos.

I flew a Ptera to find them and easily lure it to the water.. my ptera floated above the water out of it's reach and it went in circles under it.. i kept stabbing it with a pike until it roared, then ran it back on the island to tame it. Also, boosted tame rates seem to lower the number of kills needed (tho not necessary, since the timer keeps refershing). Easy to repeat if needed..

I think by bringing in some diplodocus via glitching them with a flyer, you can tame one easier cause diplos don't do any damage, so it is a thing to consider

Pro tip for tek cave: Get your dinos in a line, one following the next and so on. With Shadowmanes, I could do this by twos. Me in the lead, with one 'Mane behind me, and two 'Manes following that one, and two following them, and so on. They follow like the distinguished gentlemen that they are. I can only assume Pyros do the same. If I had a tribemate with me, I could split them in smaller groups. It's a little bit of setup, but it made getting down a lot easier. Especially when running serpas for other players. Less worrying about my own tames and making sure my group wasn't running into issues lol And I could stop follow on one mane if I needed to help another player out.

As always, if Im asking myself something about Ark, Raas has a video on it

They're going to be so cheesy for Lava cave, and their heat will keep you warm in the ice cave... Will they replace the Thylacoleo as the go-to caving mount? Even small entrances won't bother it as it's a shoulder pet!

As a new ASE player, barely two months in I’m curious about the Pyromanes as something I might experience in the future when I upgrade. But this was my first sight of the Dragon and the Tek cave. And my main takeaway is that I wish we could tame a smaller version of the Dragon. Guess I’ll have to make do with the Tropical Crystal Wyvern a friend gave to me on my multiplayer character.

Nice vid

I just realized these things would be amazing to use when magmasaurs come back.

You can probably get the pyromane into the wyvern cave which has some water. (On scorched)

Imagine you’re riding over lava and you get micro raptor

You can use them to basically skip the tek cave, that makes them almost as OP as a desmo in my book. Currently the only other tames I know of that allow that on ASA are a carchar and an archaeopteryx. The carchar is a freakin’ carchar, which takes a huge time investment to breed up an ok one to use, and the archa takes a good bit of skill to use. And people are taming pyros at like level 25-30. The overhead is way lower to allow players to just skip one of the hardest challenges on the island (tek cave, you do obviously still have to do the overseer but still). The problem with shadowmanes from a game-design perspective is that it really limits how people play because of how much it does. On PVE, shadowmanes are outclassed in most aspects from a stats standpoint, but their versatility leads people to use only shadowmanes for a huge variety of tasks. Now you don’t need a mosa or tuso, or a baryonyx/thyla, or Rexes, you can just use one tame for everything. This destroys Ark’s greatest strength as a PVE game, which is forcing players to interact with and tame many of the creatures of its world. But it’s way easier, so players will naturally do it. The pyromane suffers from exactly the same problem. Imo, and creature that is both an effective travel mount AND can run most bosses has already crossed the line, as it means it’s going to be one of the only tames most casual players use. If you give that creature MORE abilities on top of that, like fitting into caves or being immune to fire, you’re compounding the issue even more. It’s fine to make creatures have lots of neat abilities. The thyla or horse are both excellent examples of this! But when a tame’s abilities allow it to do ALL the major game progression points that the game requires (caves, bosses, and transportation) THAT is when you have a problem. Making it cost IRL money to use? Could be a smart move so long as people just don’t buy it. But that’s not gonna happen, they are literally buying a way to make the game boring in PVE. In PVP it feels necessary to buy it because of how strong it is, which is obviously a major problem.

Rhynio works well for the scorched earth spawns, pick it up and bring it to the water in the middle of map.

Let’s Go!

I picked mine up with a wyvern, flew it to the island north of lava island, dropped it in the water near shore, shotgun, ate rhinos and mammoths... definitely easy mode with the absorb flame healing it.

Quick Tip, Trap in raft, take the wild tame to where paracer swamp on island not far south of lava island, paracer do hardly any damage and taming up very quickly

The same thing happens with deinonicus the feathered raptor looking dudes the dragon can't hit them and the bleed stacks the dragon dies quick

For the Fjordur fight and the broodmother, the yuty needs to hit like a truck with melee to deal with adds because of the drag weight difference. I'd say 500 damage per bite even with enemy mateboost as a rough estimate

You can grab it with a dragon Rhynio and drop it in the water near shore, bite it with your mount til less than half health jump off and ride it to begin tame. Thats how I tamed two on scorched… pull them from the scar to the water at red ob.

Me and my friends on our nitrado server tamed the pyromanes on scorched earth just a tip for everyone if you want to try and get your own on that map build a small pin fill with animals at the red obelisk there is water there that you can use to extiguish the pyro, do your damage ride and have the mini pin with animals open and kill/burn everything in there and it should tame fairly easy for you depending on your settings we had it set to 3x taming on our server.

If you get picked you can use the transformation to be released even with argy wyvern so on

I've been using turtles , they work really well , if it's decent level you can do the whole tame with it.

Bumblebee tuna. I think my Ark days are numbered. My PC will load centre but if I move it crashes, all settings on low. Do I spend thousands on an upgrade to play a game I've already completed? Hand on heart....No 'waves to the ASA ship as it sails away' love your content chap.

YOU GOT A RAASCLARK CHIBI!!!! LMFAO Ive seen it all now

Imagine the manes as pokemon covers though. Pokémon Pyro and Shadow with the manes as the main legendary

keep in mind that immune to fire also protects you from hot or cold and works somehow while he is on your shoulder, you could have put one on your shoulder and just jumped in the lava to mount them lol

I know uhh... Steph Lyon I think, he had put up a vid of them taking out Dragon gamma easily as, I think either random tames or bred from random tames. Crazy

Great video, Raas, much more comprehensive than the other guides out there that I have seen. I’m not going to say that I like this creature because I really don’t. However, I get that they need money to give us content. Ark costs money to produce, and we don’t pay for new maps. I wish it was a real prehistoric creature, and I fucking HATE shadowmanes, but these are less broken (note the word less), so I’m kinda fine with them.

Raas, doesn't seem like you noticed so far but taming effectiveness goes down when there's 10 or less seconds left on the timer.

I thought it was crazy I could go in lava with him on my back, made it easy to get those resources in the lava

Nossa não imaginava que o Pyromane fosse tão poderoso assim!

I bet as a shoulder pet, they're amazing on Scorched

That was another bugged gamma overseer. If you hover over the milliseconds where it shows the killed message before going back to the timer it says (gamma) and it had a green health bar.

"Why did they just go over there?" cos of the new and improved dino AI in ASA ;)

Will you please do the broodmother with their special attacks on. Just curious how it would have gone

Solo tek cave just became easier. Love it🎉

I want one, I purchased it prior to learning how to tame it and based on what it takes to tame it might be a minute :) that being said it's a 🔥😻 cat What's not to love

im curious if you dont purchase it can it be admin spawned in for asa? or did they block that loophole? and what happens if you force tame one without owning the dlc?

16:10 see the right flame icon which is 0, thats why it's only biting and not flamethrowing it 16:28 once u killed the rex it got 50 points in it...i think now it can use them points as fuel for its flamethrower

FYI there have been reports of Pyromanes spawning in the wyvern trench on Scorched

Raaslack forgot about the lip ability 31:44

Try to bring it close to a bunch of diplos ... it dont looses effectivity from them

It's not hard to tame them on Scorched Earth. I dunno if this is how it's supposed to be, but any time I snatch one up with a Rhynio or a Wyvern, the Pyromane just sits there in air jail without attacking. From there, I just carry it towards red ob, drop it in the water, and proceed with taming.

Found out it makes jerky too

Taming effectiveness goes down when timer goes red. If you constantly absorb flame and don't let clock go to red you get 100% effectiveness. Creature size doesn't effect effectiveness, just how much taming %.

Scorches is easy, pick them up with wyvern. Drop them in water. Stuff to kill everywhere on scorched. Easy tame

Yo @raasclark hey brother did you know apparently they spawn on scorched earth too supposedly either around or down in the wyvern scar

Did the bob's cart work for anyone? Mine starts bouncing up and down as soon as i start putting ceilings on. Oasisaur is broke too.

On scorch. Kite it onto a oasis. Hard part is getting it out without it falling. What we did was dragon wing guessed it on head. Lift it out. Pin it down somehow. Wait for rain. Then bite and go ham. Your welcome ;) . Helped allies do this with a 150

the days dev will consider rework the boss targeting process many creatures will become unviable .lets be honest they manage to beat megapithecus only because they weren't attacked if the mega was targeting them from the start most of them would die 60 armor is really too low plus there damage without fire affliction are pretty weak ,Broodmother show pretty well what whould happend if boss didnt focus on the yuty.

Did you test if having one on ur shoulder of one gender and riding the opposite whether it gives mate bonus? Since they are immune to the tek cave lava. A run on a public map with everyone riding a pryo could just jump to the lava and all run to the end. Anything aggroed would just die in the lava.

Waiting for WC to add a boss fight tier creature thats immune to stun to break overseer and gen 1 master controller next. Would not be surprised lmao

So are these going to be running around taking up spawn points from creatures I could actually use without paying money?

I've seen a pyro mane on Scortched Earth

personally I think they're okay, most useful thing is the pet to mount ability but otherwise they're just a budget shadowmane

I'm surprised the fire cat can't shoot fire but I guess it with be very op

I'm still on scorched currently and there are pyromane in the trench

ive using noting but prim crossbow on official the past 3 days and have tamed 6. i expected more

What you do is you get a high lvl wild turtle over there on a raft, and the hp should be enough to full tame a Max lvl in n official

Yooo, now imagine doing all bosses with Pyromanes but with a bunch of Deinonychus too once Valguero comes out

Thx Raas. Bit too strong for my taste but its ok ill wait for a sale.

On the unofficial server I am on it is still breeding wild babies.