How Powerful will Thrawn's fleet be? 

aye this makes sense, considering they were waiting on him

Hope they make a new but different Tie Fighter... like The Defender... maybe without the solar panels

@@tomasjz yeah i was kinda disappointed that Thrawn had no Defenders in Ahsoka

I think instead of “rejoining”, it’ll be domination. From what we’ve seen from the books, Thrawn’s motivations vary significantly from other Imperial warlords, as he wishes to advance the security of the Chiss instead of serving the Emperor. Now that the Empire’s been usurped by the Republic, it’s proven itself to have been weak, something he doesn’t want. So instead of indulging in the Council’s fantasies of reimplementing their already flawed power base, he’ll build his own, and give the rest of the Council an ultimatum of loyalty or destruction. Of course, Hux isn’t going to join this and Gideon already did not trust Thrawn, so the cracks are already there, but he will take at least some of their power.

I think since we saw Pellaeon in Mandalorian S3 they're going to meet up and Pellaeon will give Thrawn the 7th Fleet back

That would be cool personally I Hope it's a mix fleet of different Factions.

That would actually be badass

I wonder what happened to General Kalani from Star Wars rebels? I was hoping he’d have showed up in the finale but he didn’t

Katana fleet! yes! needed! please! 😍

Nice reference 💯

Daka alone could resurrect an entire army worth, that even gave Grievous a hard time, where he had to resort to killing her to stop the spell. I'am not quiet sure how powerful these 3 new witches are supposed to be, like on one hand they could perform this magic, while Talzin could not. But then again they make kind of a big deal of summoning Talzin's sword, as they couldn't make anything better themselves, or they foresaw that Elsbeth would fail and they didn't care much about it, or perhaps it was a big deal, but they could just summon it again anyway. Or perhaps Talzin's sword isn't so much an unique item, but a spell Talzin invented.

Presumably keeping the hyperspace ring which would mean its probably the fastest ship in the galaxy at the moment.

@@watcherzero5256 That's actually a very interesting point. Given how overpowered the hyperdrive is with that combination Thrawn may be able to move Chimera through the galaxy outside of the existing hyperlanes. That could give him a terrifying ability to appear wherever he wants at will.

The last SSD was destroyed at Jakku I think

i hear he wasn’t a fan of large warships so he might go with the specialized ship route. ships that are specialized destroyers, carriers, corvettes, frigates etc instead of things like the ISD which were everything and very large. Chimera will obviously be his flag ship.

@@LakesideTreyaccording to the Canon only

The book ( empires end ) said a around 20 to 25 percent of the star destroyer fleet. ( around 4 or 5 thousand ships )

​so that may mean one or two exutors class ssds are still around

I don't think Thrawn will play a large part in Ahsoka S2. I bet he will be present in Mando S4

@@TheDarkPorkins He will likely be present in most if not all of the immediate future material, including the movie. He's not a small character. He's basically the BBEG of the entire arc the galaxy is heading in to.

The problem is _scale_ which Star Wars is very bad at... Sure the "New Republic" is disarming since they won a war (because it's a pretext to explain why the Republic Navy didn't exist in TFA) but what type of ships are they mothballing? Sure, I'll grant that they destroyed 95% of their battlefleet (Mon Cal Cruisers, Imperial Star Destroyers, and other similar and largest ships) and half of the remainder is in mothballs... that's still 2.5% of active battlefleet Thrawn, and his supporters, need to deal with. Even then, the corvettes, frigates, and cruisers wouldn't be drastically reduced as much as the battlefleet for they are too important as scouts, escorts, anti-piracy duties, and hunting down warlords who haven't figured out the war is over. The we see a new ship class which looks to be around the size of a light cruiser. With enough support, a squadron of them will be able to take on an ISD (although they will suffer losses). So it's a matter of scale... do the forces Thrown will have be a threat to the New Republic _long_ term? Short term, they could be a threat to some task groups, maybe a task force... but once the New Republic navy gets their battlefleet on scene... Thrawn will lose.

The only person that could maybe stop Thrawn is in the Chiss Ascendancy or dead…

Yesn't? With Admiral Akbar still in service (well i think?), they could still put up a fight...ish with heavy plot armor. However if Admiral Thrawn did win... We wouldn't really have the Supremacy class super star destroyer getting fucked now would we?

It’d be awesome to see victories in live action at last

@@steelrexer1062 indeed

Starkiller base would most likely be in construction already since it's converting a planet the length it would need to be complete would be longer then what it took for the Death Star.

Possibly, although the planet is already there, it might be less labour intensive than creating a moon sized station from scratch. Add to that the huge trench around the equator was already there from the extensive mining of Kyber crystals used for both death stars. @@mightheal

@@mighthealIt is. Even during the Illum mission in Jedi: Fallen Order, the main equatorial trench was already visible

@@yordanberov8678 I forgot about that.

Before

@@felps_4500 I was hoping it wasn't. I know Thrawn is an antagonist, but realizing this takes place before just doesn't make it more interesting to watch because we already know he will get wiped out of the galaxy.

@@sempermilites87 I know how you feel, don't worry too much about it, and it does make more sense for Thrawn to come back before the New Republic and the whatever's left of the Empire (later 1st Order) gets wiped out

Well the rey saga we still want Luke to rebuild the Order and Leia to rebuild the Republic to its former glory

We know the mandoverse is going to culminate to a movie and since Thrawn's primary expertise is fleet combat he is definitely going to have a fleet but what it's fully going to comprise of is the question. We know Pelleon is his follower so whatever forces he has will be his without question. I doubt Eli Vanto will join him because he'll be with the Chiss and the Chiss definitely won't join him because that goes against their rules of engagement, which is what Eli allows them to get around to defend the Chiss Ascendency.

That pretty much matches up to what it was in Legends. Fleets aren't huge because they get more unmanageable the larger they get.

No

Yes. Galaxy Class.

Nah, it's the term given to the class/size of the ship. Not it's capability of lightspeed

​@BrayOfTheDonkey Yeah, I know, but more of a joke

Not even super Star destroyers can go between galaxies. His star destroyer is now a super duper star destroyer, at least.

That's because his ship in Canon is a modified ISD 1 instead of an ISD 2 like in Legends

@@felps_4500 that’s interesting. I didn’t know much about Thrawn until Disney cannon, but that’s good to know about the Legends-cannon crossover.

How many destroyers do you think they should have them at the empire’s height?

It was in like the 3rd to last episode or something, imma be real season 3 of Mando was very forgettable

Killed by a single X-Wing armed with snarky remarks.

That would be bad for the new republic

That’d be cool. It’d be interesting if he made a TIE with Nightsister tech or magik in it.

Or even the tie avengers, seems fitting for the imperial remnants.

That makes sense to me, as building better Ties would fit the situation. Tie fighters with shields, hyperdrives and even missiles makes sense as the Imperial remnant would be low on resources and their means to replace them. No more quantity over quality doctrine.

The problem is manufacturing capability, the empire doesn't have much of that post jakku

He was dead so couldn't return. That group was already formed before his campaign against the New Republic.

@@mightheal Ok I should say his followers returned with the prophecy that he would return from the dead in ten years (novel Vision of the Future)

He was about more and better ships yes, but smaller ships, he’d see an SSD as a waste of resources that could’ve been put to better use by making a fleet of smaller ships, granted he’ll use it, but not as his flagship

Thrawn always preferred smaller vessels- placing all your eggs in one basket is flawed and leads to catastrophic losses. He'd likely repair the Chimera and/or allow the hyperspace ring to act as its new propulsion / weapons refit. I see Thrawn investing in smaller cruisers in the coming future to allow the proper guerilla warfare he originally conducted- a tactic especially effective against a stronger, higher-resource and larger foe.

Is Sloan even around anymore? There has been zero mention of her in any of the shows or movies

Maybe thrawn would use victory class stardestroyers

What you say sounds great and fits into the lore well. So in typical Disney tradition, its not what we will get.

Did you not think his tactical abilities seemed pretty mediocre in the series, I was expect a master strategist.

@@martyincanuckistan3635 For fighting plot armor, he did pretty well. Not to mention he's low on troops, half his equipment is nonfunctional or degraded, and he really didn't care about them, he just wanted to leave with the Night Sisters.

Palapatines personal flagship Was a ECLIPSE CLASS star dreadnouught with a super laser not a executor class , maybe Huzura had a executor class but it wouldn’t be Palapatines flagship

Wayland would be a technology vault

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 Thats in Legends. In canon the Eclipse-Class got reconned and the Eclipse itself was made the sistership of the Executor. She still is named as Palpatines-Flagship even if i dont know of any occasion where he was onboard.

Using the dead would make an excellent alternative to cloning like in legends to deal with the manpower problem the IR is prolly facing. The zombie troopers showed they’re able to use tech and stuff, at least the simpler things. I do wonder how much Thrawn is going to rely on the nightsisters. I honestly kept expecting one to betray the other in this season

He is good, and he can win against enemies who outnumber his forces, but he's not _that_ good. I swear, people speak up Thrawn as if they've only read the bits of Hand of Thrawn where people with no actual experience of him speak up his reputation.

@@LordInsane100 He's the single best strategic mind in the galaxy. He can't win impossible odds, no. But the line between doable and impossible is significantly different when talking about him.

probably unlikely

I hope not. He makes stupid decisions and just fills his shows with fan favourite to hide that his ideas are not that intresting.

I mean, thrawn Is going to be around for a pretty long time So I wouldn't be surprised if maybe if they do a fourth trilogy, he would be in.

Not happening lol get over it

Dude the asohka show was not good why?

Because that's what he was written to be in the new novels. Disney however is determined to make him their next typical bad guy since all there attempts at creating interesting original villains have ended in abysmal failure.

that sounds like one of the better ways of eventually resolving his return. He never was one for politics, so a betrayal like that definitely has a chance of surprising him

Wouldn’t he know? He would’ve known about Operation Cinder