How Reddit Ruined Atheism | Asmongold Reacts 

This is a funny one

Yeah, but Godzilla destroyed Tokyo, and sciencezilla didn't. 😕 They tied up the ballgame.

Dunno there are a couple of subreddits I quite enjoy. Then again those are pretty much only pictures.

@@JCGver The niche/picture subs are fine because they generally focus on things rather than people. As soon as the subject is people, it's garbage.

No, people WITH problems invent them to others.

Cause why someone need proves something 24hrs when can not.

make me think ofn twitter tool tho

pray for that homie

Nah, let him sink if he refuses to learn to swim.

@@CAiNiAC for real. hopefully he'll lose his sense of reality and try that in the real world, and face real world consequences.

​@@TheBuffPlease I believe that Jesus can redeem anyone. Even redditors. Possibly even gingers 🙏

Congrats I guess... you win??? XD most reddit mods think debates are a fight instead of an attempt at reaching intellectual honesty and truth. Good for him if that's what he wants out of any conversation.

But bananas can be green, brown, pink(in some species)...

@@stefankroon4615 "Actually... ☝️🤓" 🤣

"Rapid eye brow twitch and death stare to challenge me so I can tell you I don't give a fuck " enters here.

Some might seem like decent folks to be around, but sooner or later they all fall victim to the petty power they hold

There's a reason that calling someone a reddit tier moderator is considered an insult.

Hit the nail on the head, it’s also just over moderated in general, it feels like what happens when you give the average twitter user some small shred of power lol

this is exactly true. Sadly as a right leaning person the official moderators of reddit shutdown right leaning pages too. So 90% of reddit is leftist echo chambers, its kinda sad

Dont be naive either, most major reddit mods are paid by corporations and political entitied to create and enforce certain worldviews which benefit them.

this and the fact that most people on the internet are from europe and other parts of the west, thus their parents were christian, so when they turn from the faith they feel they have the 'right' and 'authority' to sht on it. however you are also right, im a catholic, sht on my faith and i couldnt care less, i argued with a muslim coworker months ago, and he got really aggressive and threatened me, big fcking difference.

Well, as a Christian I'd prefer you didn't but I'm not going to do anything about it other than try to help you understand, if i can't do that...yeah, there's not really much else I'm supposed to do and God doesn't want me to force it on you anyway, its a willing thing.

@@apan990 hadji doesn’t surf.

It's interesting because i just googled that in 2023 over 3.600.000 christians were "hunted down" for being christian. On the other hand there are many christian terrorists like for example the ku-klux-klan or the Lord Resistance Army.

Unlike islam

The churches and Mosques should Hire R/Atheist.

You bring this up to a religious atheist and they go through hurdles to deny it.

Same here. I think the main difference between these "Atheists" and ones like us, is that they need to belive there is no god, and we just flat out don´t believe and don´t care. Religion never made sense to me, I never believed it it. Even as a kid I sat in church just thinking "Why is this real but the story I heared yesterday isn´t?". And that´s really what it boils down to. We just cannot believe, not in an active way of denial, but because we just are not capable on some level to just accept a story. Especially when the answer basically always ultimately ends with "Because God." And it´s generally not something I really ever think about. I don´t pray to anything. Don´t think of gods or even religion as a whole when not prompted. It just never is a topic for me. And I also don´t care if people are religious or not so long as they leave me alone in my "believes", or better the lack thereof. I don´t need some deeper answer or reason in life. I am perfectly happy with life just being a coincidence and there being no reason for it. I don´t need a reason to exist. The important part is that I do, and what I do with that. And I don´t need some paradise after life, because I cannot remember the last 13.5 billion years before my birth, so I know what expects me afterwards. And while it would be neat if there was an existance after death, it is very unlikely and the most likely case isn´t scary. I just go back to where I came from, non existance. So in the end I just don´t care for religion, I don´t generally need to talk about it, but ocassinally like to nshare my point of view. But as we all got that free will everyone else can decide for themselves what they want or need. And I would be the last to argue against that, after all I don´t want to be pestered about not believing. I think Christianity has a nice rule for that, leaving the belives out: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

@@theexchipmunk You care enough to make a too long didnt read comment about how much you dont care

@@theexchipmunk why write something on a topic you don't put much thought into? How do you know their isnt life after death?, How do you know something came from nothing? small particles 13.5 billion years ago, where does that come from, nothing, it just appeared for no reason? If you say cause science, how the fuck does science observe something that is outta of the materialistic world? God is outside the materalistic world, if God some guy in the sky, that would contridict the all powerful God? You know Iwasted my time God has to be real and very much a nessary condition to many things in the world.

True.

It's actually not "ironic" though, we over "ironize" everything when really it's that harvey dent quote in action "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain..."

What’s ironic is your bored Apes NFT and making this comment

@@shelbyspeaks3287 actually it’s literally ironic lmfao, think “fire truck on fire”

@@GravityVT lmfao dude it’s not a Bored Ape, or ironic for the reason you think I flipped it, made a grand and kept the screenshot So it is ironic, but you don’t know how to use the word

Hats are for stat buffs only

Atheism is fine thanks for your concern.

​@@ericvulgate7091Man youre exactly the kind of person we are making fun of.

@@ZeallustImmortal he activated his trap card

It's a two sided battle that's unfortunate and taints both sides. On one hand you've got theists fanatics that proselytize the anti-theists and call them demons or satan worshippers for their beliefs. And the other you've got hardcore anti-theists who feel the need to out religious people and make them feel miserable for their choice of faith. Personally my answer is let and let live, but defend against those who don't want to let live and wish to put down people for it.

@@ericvulgate7091*tips fedora*

And its mostly people lurking and watching the freak show

literally the reason for the "tits or gtfo" rule. it aint even about the tits, it's just about shaming people for trying to use who they are to ascend social ladders where there are no social ladders to ascend.

When Moot abandoned 4chan most Redditers went to chan and the tumblr dopes went to Reddit. Hasn't been the same since tbh.

I'd say people are welcome to be zealous for or against religion, but they need to be ready to be disliked / fought over it. If zealous christians want to argue with zealous atheist, more power to em I guess. If zealous muslims want to jihad, gotta be prepared for a resistance force. Dont want the heat stay out the kitchen

God gave us free-will. I chose God, as I was made by Him to return home to Him. Hell is a terrifying reality and I want no part of it and am fighting to come back to God spiritually. There' been a spiritual war from day one when the angels fell, we cannot see, but look around at the world, its poison has poisoned the world. Only through Christ can we return home.

''Bless your heart'' is considered a passive aggressive attack? , what?, oh well I guess people who don't believe in God are the ones who use it that way, because it makes no sense to use it to insult others if you do

@@ChildofTheLivingGod-vk8mmif your only reason for faith is fear of hell or death then you do not have faith at all

@@xLuis89xwhat? Have you not heard the southern religious moms that use it as a sarcastic phrase to spite those they dont like? Yes it wasnt that way before but over the last decade or two its been bastardized

as a genius all i can say is that IQ does not mean being intelligent, its a logical fallacy to think having faster processing unit makes someone more intelligent, it absolutely doesnt. Ive met a lot of "high iq" people but almost all of them are stupid in fact, without common sense mostly. It sounds insane but its true

That's literally not at all how statistics and averages work. If 9 people have an IQ of 88.8 and 1 person has an IQ of 200, the average is 100. Did 50% of those people have an IQ above 100?

You're talking about median not average...

ahktuallyy....

@@dreddscott3873 Yes but QI is on a bell curve, the median and the average are the same

the world hates the truth, God bless you dude

Well said

The world is cruel, you are right to come back to your faith, you learned that its better to be you than to be liked.

idk Im and Atheist and Believe isn't really something you can control. I think arguments for and against god are stupid because there is no evidence either way and if you personally believe or don't believe in god that's not something you should have to prove logically. We should simply acknowledge that it's more of a very personally important opinion or you could call it a value/value system

Yeah, I got picked on at my Catholic school for going to church- by a Muslim kid of all people. Became a cringe Reddit atheist at 16 and only opened my mind a few years ago through dealing with addiction and surviving a near-death experience. Turns out, I was just going along with what I heard in RU-vid videos, not actually thinking for myself, just like being in church ironically.

2010 mah birth year yuhhh

I called an obvious dude a dude and got banned. I guessing being a male is an insult in their books.

When getting banned is a blessing 😂 never really used it myself but I know the memes.

didnt do that reddit stuff but getting permanently banned from league of legends actually made me a happy person. if you play that game and you are addicted to suffering. do urself a favor and type the sickest sjit to get a perm ban and you slowly turn into a true life enjoyer

Same here broski

leaving basically all the default subs and only joining subs of things I am interested in was the winning strat for the past ~11 years out of the 12 I've been on Reddit. Unfortunately, now that the Reddit app randomly suggests subs to people based on their algorithm (and they forced 95% of the 3rd party apps out of business), I've noticed a huge decline in discourse even in these niche subs in the past few months. That, combined with obvious ChatGPT bot accounts answering bullshit, I'm on the verge of leaving. Used to be I needed to go to different sites for every interest I had. Reddit helped that, now Reddit is killing it.

ok, i gotta know how you got banned

Gee, which modern well meaning group do they remind me of.

​@@Rubycheckers no idea but if money is involved in any way I stop trusting the words coming from said groups. mainly because ethics sadly seem to take a backseat when money gets involved.

And you can already see Christians acting like antagonistic trolls, just like the examples in this video, because it is a good way to get attention. A Christian youtuber named Melonie Mac recently mocked a Church for burning because they did an lgbt event. Eventually it will circle around again.

@@insensitive919 I think you have a very good point about it often being used as a tool for attention.

@eXelenCe LGBTQ+ advocates of course. Claim to be "awakened," check, toxic response to people who don't share their view, (racisthomophobetransphobebigotsexist spam) check, claim they're tolerant but they're intolerant as heck, (becoming what they hate,) check... I could go on and on and on. And both atheists and LGBTQ+ advocates love reddit. Dude... Are they the same people?

Yeah I know right.

Entitled. Most jobs require a college degree of some kind, which means you'll have to go into a massive amount of debt if you want a job. There are trade jobs, but they're mostly stigmatized as being too "blue collar" or "conservative", as if gay people can't be electricians, or women can't be mechanics or something. And if you can't find a job because of being underqualified for all the jobs that will meet your financial needs, and don't want to take a minimum wage job because you can't live on 7.25 an hour, the older generation will call you lazy, and they always take every possible opportunity to let anybody know that "no one wants to work anymore", even though we're working more hours, and getting paid less (again, relative to inflation) than any point since the great fucking depression. And lastly, as a Christian myself, I can say that reddit atheism is a completely different ballpark from just your everyday atheist. If anything, I'd say the evangelism that used to be with Christians got transfered to the atheists around 2010. Christians, while still being vocal about our faith, are no longer going around saying that Harry Potter and Monster energy drinks are demonic (well... maybe the pentecostals are 😂). However, most of the chronically online atheists will never pass up an opportunity to point out how evil they think you are for believing something that doesn't agree with lifestyles that, just a couple decades ago, even they found strange.

​@@southernstylegaming8580 This is what I've seen with the Reddit atheists. I'm starting to call them rabbid atheists. I've tried to have meaningful discussions on Reddit about faith and creationism, but I always get dog piled on and told that I'm what's wrong with the world. When I respond with a challenge to their worldview, they lose their minds. I get name called and they don't engage in any meaningful debate. I'm at the point now where I've decided that I should just stop engaging with them and ignore their "heathen rages". My father-in-law is an atheist, and we have wonderful and civil discussions about faith, ethics, and culture that challenge both of us.

Better that then how religious people are seen these days by young people.

@@thevannmann as if any sane person cares what young people today think . Especially when they go around speaking TikTok language and getting education by watching XQC and Hasan . I dare say a religious home schooled kid might be more knowledgeable and smarter than the average zoomer with TikTok brain-rot

@@thevannmann Depends on the young people I suppose.

@thevannmann I don't think you're in tune with young people haha

​@hidetakamiyazaki1825 No, no they're not.

Reddit has become more toxic than 4chan

4chan was great just memes, laughs and actually real helpful stuff from cooking to Sshhhposting Reddit is just full on "omg I am so offended" every second.

@@yagsipcc287 well that's a bit of a stretch, too. Let's not forget that 4chan had people bricking Xboxes, voted Kim Jung Un NY Times man of the year, made a flavor for Mt Dew called "Squirtin' Granny Apple" and it won, and did a Lays flavor called "Hitler did nothing wrong" and it won. While those aren't entirely life ruining like reddit can be they were still pretty bad. That's just the tip of the iceberg too. I love 4chan by the way, been a user on their boards for over 15 years but they're evil when they want to be. Not as bad as they were.

It's the up doots and ego.

@@Hertacles oh yeahfor sure some high class Sshhhposting ha they also done more to help people, helped countless times to find missing people, helped people in need got their stories out there, stopped hackers, caught child abusers etc... no one or nothing is all good or all bad. But God reddit is so lame, it used to be pretty good 4chan lite but then the owners got all weird made changes to it to suite their needs and wants disreguading the users. Thats when we got the major cringe mods. Look at Nexus mods once amazing now they censor stuff non stop not even bad stuff.

this is so true. part of the reason why kids of christians leave the faith is out of rebellion. when i have my kids, i’ll share my beliefs. but they’ll have the power to choose.

@@HfxnnI was born a Christian, have been an atheist for a long, long time. I still go to church for weddings, baptisms, funerals, I married in a church, my kids ar baptized. The reason is that it is the tradition of my people, and I am a part of it. My kids will learn about religion from me, my wife, priests and others. Eventually they will make up their own mind and I'm fine with that. I think this is the right approach whether you are religious or atheist. Rebelion is not a valid reason to believe or not believe in God. Most atheists around here are the same as me. You wouldn't know they are atheists unless you actually discuss the subject with them. We don't avoid the subject, but we are not actively trying to convince people around us, or wear atheism as a badge of honor. I have friends that I have no idea if they are religios or atheists. I have friends that switched sides at some point or another. Nobody thought any worse of them. In short, I guess I'm saying I agree with you.

@@darktoranaga very nice response :) and i know it’s not always out of rebellion. it’s just from my own life experience that’s what i’ve noticed. and i would add to this saying that i want my kids to think for themselves with their free will, the same way god lets us think for ourselves using free will

@@darktoranaga also i think it’s funny that we’re the opposite lol. you came from a christian house and became an atheist and i came from an atheist household and became christian. funny observation lol

@@darktoranagaAs a Catholic i have to say good n you that is the proper way on doing it many Atheistic parents who may force view point wonder why their kids rebelled by join a faith and becoming extreme in said faith two wrongs don't make a right I wished more were like you.

"That's what this is you know, Satanic Black Magic. Sick Shit" - Paulie, The Sopranos.

My baby sitter in elementary school told me and my brother all out books like R L Stine and cartoons like Ben 10 were devilry lol. It was funny as hell.

Reminds me of my first gf and her mom. They couldn't celebrate Halloween, or even watch Harry Potter. Plus her Christian mom didn't like me because I was Roman Catholic lol. Right around that time period too

My Grandma is a super religous and superstitious so when she was visiting from Mexico she took a big issue with my WoW disk and me playing the game. She said the same thing about it being devil worship. So she ended up throwing away my disk. Rip OG vanilla box. But she was beyond confused when she saw me playing it still. She probably though it was being channeled from the depth of hell to my PC haha.

magik and alchemy LITERALLY is devil worship. the Christian Bible says not to practice magik

Ok but why need god ? I am joking 🤣

I'm an atheist-atheist So I don't believe you exist 🤣 @@Maximum7077

I'm an anti theist but I stay away from the edgy part. I'm not worried about God on the money or that the g in God just auto corrected for me lol. I have tons of religious and atheist friends it only comes up when my friends try to save me from hell.

Lol I kinda was like that too, now I don't let it define me as a person, now if I meet a stranger and engaged in chatter, me being an atheist is the last thing you'd find out, unless they ask or something else told them

same i am a agnostic athiest but i dont care what other people do i dont try and convert anyone never have im willing to debate people but ive had people cuss me out and tell me im going to hell merely because they found out i dont go around proclaiming it or telling people there views are wrong but we are still hated him saying we "won" and are somehow punching DOWN is laughable even at its peak athiests made up like 2% of the population we dont have any places like churchs or any presidents that are athiests him trying to make it out like we can punch down is laughable

Almost there, the real reason it that people have weak minds and are afraid to die so they become religious to lie themselves but deep down they obviously know it is all a charade.

The most humbling thing , consequences for what you done

lol..nope

@@CommentThinkTips Fedora...

I think it comes from authority figures telling you that it exists and that you're going to hell if you don't believe. And if you're in a religious family, they could treat you differently for it. Also there are countries where religion guides law. In the past, people were murdered for not believing, and entire wars were fought. So I definitely don't think it's from a place of humility. There's some deeper stuff going on that I don't understand enough to speak on. I'm not smart enough for that.

I don't use it anymore. I have to agree with you as mods ruined everything, but there is more to play that bothered me. The mods would push agendas, each subreddit was an echo chamber, and everyone was angry in the comment section. Nothing felt real and genuine, and started feeling like the comments I'm reading weren't made by real people, but rather bots. I go back here and there, but all of it feels the same.

I think the top few hundred subreddits had the same few mods. They're lifeless crazy people, lol.

100% agree. I mainly only ever used it for gaming info, and still do, but on the odd occasion i might stray into a more political sub it becomes immediately obvious how its filled with chronically online over opinionated toxic losers. Who's ,quite often misguided, 'opinions' are safeguarded and validated by equally toxic mods. Hell, even some of the gaming subs are now over political cesspits. But it is what it is i guess

It's all about who's a troll and everything is made up now. I hate it. Maybe I should start moving away from it. It's just getting worse and worse, and everyone wants to point a finger at anyone and call them a troll. That's no way to live life, tbh.

*Supposed to be lack of belief. It has become the belief in disbelief.

Social media isn't responsible for twisted narratives about atheism or religion, those have been around much longer than social media. All it takes is human beings, we tend to distort things to fit our own perspectives. Simple as that.

Atheism was always more than a "lack of belief." It was always tied to a view of rationality. I've never heard an atheist present that choice as anything but rational.

​@@ratdoto2148No, it hasn't. That's only how it is portrayed by others. The vast majority of atheists i know are not like that.

@@Mussi93 In this context of how it is portrayed by others, how would you classify my view? I don't believe or not believe, I just think the question is silly and not properly defined.

The big issue is some people believe all religions are bad based on tha actions of some wyo CLAIMED to represent that group like the Catholic church just because some people used it for power, r*pe and extortion doesn't mean everyone does as a matter of fact if you read the bible you'll see explicitly call these types of people out and say they are not genuine followers of Jesus "Pharisees" by example you can't generalize because of the bad actions of some its not that the religion is bad its that some people represent it wrongfully however theres a point where religion becomes bad and its when again you use it to do evil or when you start to think you're better than everyone else because of it

because people band together over anything think about it asmongold fans band together as well

Atheism was oppressed A LOT back in the day, and people that experience oppression together tend to bad together. Especially on websites like Reddit where the whole point is in community 💀

You can't imagine somebody who just lost his belief, be disowned by pretty much everyone they know, to desire a community to talk with?

I suppose you have been an atheist your entire life, or at least didn't grow up in a very religious family. If I'm wrong on this, please correct me. But leaving a religion you have been part of for a significant part of your life isn't just some process that you just do without any influence or consequences on yourself and/or others. I've been very lucky in that I wasn't abused as a child because of the religion, or disowned when my parents found out I don't believe anymore. However, there are many people who are not as lucky and have experienced these things at the hand of their respective religion. And if people leaving their faith, which for many has been a large part of their identity, this of course leads to a significant part of their identity being stripped away in a sense. And this can be traumatic. The deeper you were into the faith and the more this was part of your identity, the more traumatic this has the potential to be in my eyes. And then it makes sense that you might have some vitriol against the thing that caused you this trauma. And banding together in a community to see that you're not alone in your experience is just a logical next step. This of course then can stoke the anger against their former religion that many people feel, which is also not a good thing yet understandable in my eyes. I've been in that camp in the past myself, and still to an extent am, though I don't consider myself as angry as I used to be after my deconversion. If you've never been religious, then I understand why you don't understand why there are atheist communities. These are in large part comprised of people who left toxic religion, from what I'm seeing. Though of course there are edgy teens in there as well.

Covid was hateful

People over try to oversimplify this. It’s actually a paradox. If you’re tolerant of hateful people, you’re being intolerant towards the target of the hate.

@@mcmatthew7898 lol untrue

@@mcmatthew7898 lol that’s a mighty simplified way of looking at things wtf 🤣

@@Tyro_ Well then that goes doubly so for your position. You seems to think being hateful towards intolerant people makes you yourself intolerant. An obvious counter-point would be the Nazis. You can’t be tolerant of the Nazis without tolerating their hatred of the Jews.

My grandpa also used to wear fedora like hats, he passed away in 2012.

😂😂

I agree with this but I feel like their nice attitudes go away as soon as you stop pretending that you think exactly like them. If religious people found out I'm an atheist and just said okay well to each their own I would be a lot more accepting of their religions.

I'll say that's questionable. Religion has been the root of a lot, lot, lot of hate. From the crusades to Djihad, nonwithstanding gay hate & other niceties, members of religion are rarely nice to outsiders. That doesn't mean the individuals are all hostile, but religion at large has never been a source of kindness and love over hate and violence, and it's not likely to change.

Well, as they get older, fear dead and no afterlife gets many people to trade logic for blind faith in the supernatural, it seems

Ye

@@Dekharen you dont need religion, you dont need to go to church, you dont need a other pearson to tell you what God is and to have a relation with him...he alredy said it himsel thah he IS (meaning when you look at sky he IS, when you hear bird song he IS, when you breathe a *frash* air he IS, when you look in a mirror he IS) and his glory and love have bin demonstrated to us thru life and secrifice of Jesus Christ.

Agree. A lot of users said back in the day that they stopped being a lurker and made an account on Reddit (you could browse without an account back then), so that they could disable r/atheism from the main bar.

How do they contradict their logic?

@@justusP9101best example is how they criticize “groupthink” but then all live in the echo chamber that is Reddit and r/atheism and only allow agreeing opinions

@@burtreynolds8030 Yeah i agree. As a anti-theist i really dislike that sub for exactly that reason. They don’t even notice their hypocrisy that they are acting like r/Islam or r/Christianity

OMG Same here ironically my mother and late grandfather got me into the Diablo games ironically lol.

I am similar experience as a protestant but I knew some people who were restricted. They definitely rebelled a lot harder. The only thing I experienced was as an adult my grandmother coming to tears learning I was playing dnd. I explained a bit. Two of my closest friends that I played with came to Christ and are happier than ever because of that game. Definitely changed my grandmothers perspective.

I was in the local "'atheist scene" in my city...that is exactly what happened here. I liked being part of a community that questioned, well the big questions. I loved that I found a community of people not afraid to discuss and debate and were not hostile about it. Open debate was welcomed during our get togethers, and in the end we would agree to disagree if the debates left us wanting. Then, the social justice latched on. Social justice or Atheism+ came in like a disease and killed off everything. We no longer discussed philosophical topics or how we could contribute to the community in a positive way...nope, it became how do we help the marginalized, why our whiteness is bad, all the fun buzzwords you hear now.....and this was 2012/2013. If any members questioned why are we focusing on that and not what we were building, well, you are just a bigot, homophobe, racist...whatever. It made people incredibly insufferable (which some would argue most probably were) which resulted in all the sane people leaving, and then it just simply died. I watched people, that I thought were logical and rational, turn into these weird cult like people that you didn't dare question the group think. It was incredibly heartbreaking yet fascinating. You hit the nail on the head....social justice in it's current form is just mainstream now....I saw it in it's infancy.

That was what made the "atheism movement" fall apart, really. It became divided into those who opposed religion because they opposed the authoritarian way it imposed its values on everyone, and those who merely felt that *they* should be the ones enforcing their values instead.

This is what I've been thinking- People don't stop being religious, they just choose new things to be religious about.

@@phi4721 Yep exactly this. Not only have they become moral busybodies attacking anyone who goes even slightly against their new religion, they've also latched on to nonsense like zodiac signs, crystal healing, Raiki, tarot cards and other stupid things, sometimes witchcraft. The difference between their new religion and with Christianity is at least you can be forgiven in the latter.

It's something I found interesting, studies have shown that religious people are by and large more happy than their non-religous counterparts, and the studies attribute this mostly to the sense of local community that religion brings.

absolutely! im non-religious. i dont like to say atheist but not for any reason other than i just dont really find i identify that way. however, back in college i was dating a christian man, and the one thing i actually miss about going to church is the sense of community. everyone was so nice and welcoming and i loved the events. i have routinely thought about going back to church just for the community aspect over the religious aspect. though the christian faith teaches really good morals and a sense of direction in life, even though i am not the type to feel dedication to a higher being.

​@@Rat-King27ignorance is bliss it ain't that complicated

@@JarczenkoYou really just chalk up all of those statistics to people being ignorant to "the truth"? Really weird outlook ngl.

@@Jarczenko "Pull up fedora"

You have a good day, too, I hope :)

Which was the correct answer. Pray to sky daddy losers.

​@@MayteraMarblethat is exactly the response that definitely convinces people that every person on this planet who believes in God is obviously wrong and stupid for thinking otherwise.

@MayteraMarble Pray to me. I am a God and you can't prove me wrong.

In science you cannot prove unfalsifiable propositions, that's how logic and science works. If you need a better explanation you can read "The Dragon in My Garage " analogy by Carl Sagan.

@Odrade100 Exactly. Anyone who says God does not exist because science proves it is nothing more than a religious zealot themselves. And thus, the deth of Atheism.

Truth is simple.

@@Zemlja_je_ravna Be specific and you'll realize it isn't.

And yet, the One true God of this world has fallen to evil' plan of believing He does not exist. I pray for you all, because the day is coming every knee WILL bow to His return. I only hope more, not less are prepared... and looking at the state of the world overall, hell' going to be bursting at the seams. I wish not even an enemy to be eternally damned.

Yeah… the problem with religion is that it promotes illogical magical thinking. I’m for it making people’s lives feel better, but it’s based on lies. If you’re good with that, more power to you, but remember that it brings craziness as well.

@@ChildofTheLivingGod-vk8mmfunny when it seems there has been a massive swing in the west back towards heavy religious value. There was a slight move towaeds atheism in the early 2000s to mid 2010s. Ever since its just growing

thing is... you didn't need moderators in there. The reason is that intelligent people could easily destroy trolls emotionally if they were given free hands. Meanwhile in reddit and steam moderators like to protect trolls by banning both users (they only touch trolls in one month and only if there was actual flamewar).

​@@Tespri LMAO groupthink is just as pervasive on 4chan. That's why it's always been so easy to farm >(YOU)'s

@@exmerion not comparable and farm? What?

Yes that is true but it’s also true that Christianity is the most popular and influential religion in the world currently so due to sheer population of course there would be more persecution of them worldwide it’s statistically guaranteed especially since they’re a prostelathyzing religion that seeks to convert others, it’s kind of a similar cause with Chinese and Russians deaths in the 20th century due to totalitarian regimes there’s many people in those huge countries so having a tyrannical government there is just a recipe for disaster, not only that but it’s also been the case that Christians do this to themselves over theological differences historically speaking so that could be a contributor, there’s many other reasons to it’s really complicated and not as simple as just “x group is inherently gonna have x happen to them cause of x singular reason”. The thing that annoys me about this statistic is how whenever a Christian typically evangelical and American brings it up they use it as some sort of strange validation of their beliefs pretending like they’re just oppressed instead of actually receiving valid criticism of what they believe and their actions about it, they use it as a shield to justify that they’re fighting for the “right cause” in their eyes.

Wars in middle east are not tracked I suppose

China and India, just to start. Pretty much half the world's population right there. Never mind what our own governments did 'for our own good' over the last few years. I 'd say cops staking out churches to block people going inside counts as persecution.

He's got quite a few bad takes in this one. Myopic standards for "punching up", Scottish Gandalf is a sweet look, and "hey, I think I'll get some hair plugs", among them. Just goes to show you can be intelligent and talented, yet still be an ignoramus.

Yeah it's underplayed how often Christians are persecuted in non-Christian nations. And as for the West itself, take his earlier claim that the reason Christianity is the most maligned religion in the West (Christendom) is because it's culturally acceptable to be critical of one's own culture, but not of others. Does this happen in non-Christian countries? No it doesn't. Muslims don't fedora over Islam in their own societies, Hindus don't do it, Jews don't do it in Israel. The reason it is promoted in the West is because of Jewish over-representation in media and politics, doubly so for America. It's the third rail no one will touch.

Fantastic analysis in that last statement. You've hit the nail on the head with that one!

Or that video "atheist walking"

i was into the amazing racist we are not the same

Yeah it's sad seeing the amazing atheist now. He hasn't matured in his thinking at all, just gotten into politics more instead of atheism.

When you are 16-19, aside from feeling physically invinceable, you feel like you already have all the major facts of life figured out.

I was the same. I really liked his podcast for years then it just dissolved into him screaming and being annoying to his friends.

my explanation is in that regard if there is the need that some creator created the universe because something cant come out of nothing what then created this creator because he cant come out of nothing either and if that creator could have simply come into being or simply have always existed why cant matter have always existed or came into being why does an allpowerfull entity need to come frist out of nothing that can then create matter out of nothing ? regarding our universe i think it got created by an implusion of a super black hole that absorbed everything in its influence and then grew instabil there can be several of those that constantly get created we can observe several small and rather big once that contuie to grow and absorbing more and more at somepoint they will merge as we have observed and grow bigger and bigger if at somepoint there isnt enough for them to contuie they can become instable and implode creating a new "big bang" creating a chycle (we dont have observed that yet but is my explanation for how it could happen)

Yea atheism became the religion of disproving god their faith in nonfaith became their oen religion. I just dont belive in god let others do whatever they want

In my experience, religious people don’t go out of their way generally to let you know they are religious, but Atheists will break their backs to let you know what they believe.

@@mythoceanas8874 Because it's important to let you know that they're better than you.

​@@mythoceanas8874That's just not true tho, maybe on the internet but certainly not in real life.

In real life, no, no one has ever gone out of their way to tell me their religion. So if you met any, it might do you some good to think about where exactly you live and how justified you are in thinking that your surroundings represents the “normal” other people speak of.

But.. but White man bad?

We should bring back blackface

Get real dude, everybody makes jokes about everyone. Stop making yourself a victim, it's jokes

​​@@fordishonor1277Their kind is always the first to play the victim. They wanna hit others, but can't take a hit themselves.

Praise the good man, Uncle Ruckus

The fanatical atheists...are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who-in their grudge against the traditional 'opium of the people'-cannot hear the music of the spheres. - Albert Einstein

Yeah, religion is an important part of being human and it's insane to pretend you don't have fundamental beliefs... Even many of the most prominent atheists including Richard Dawkins have admitted that there could be no evidence for the existence of God that he would accept. He was asked if Jesus descended from heaven, spoke to him, and wrote a message to him out of the stars, Richard would rather assume he was going crazy than accept any affirmative evidence. I'm not even trying to say that he is wrong, but that is 100% without question a faith based position. Also I personally think our societal morals will continually degrade every generation if we don't get God back into the equation... But that's a controversial opinion these days. The first part though, that's an indisputable fact

@@bschneidezatheists by definition are antitheists, so you're right about that, but agnostics genuinely don't have a belief. I've known some that have had general "we'll reincarnate" beliefs or similar, but the general non religious individual doesn't believe anything spiritually

@@bschneidez BS, Dawkins has stated numerous times that he cannot be 100% sure that (a) god(s) don't exist. Also, what you're doing is quite clearly a false equivalence. God believers are making the positive claim, its on them to produce proof. All atheists are saying is that since there is no verifiable proof of the existence of any god or gods, they opt for the more likely explanation which is that there are no such beings. Easy as that.

​@bschneidez It isn't. Religion isn't a fundamental belief that applies to everyone. Everyone has their own compass in their life, and they choose to direct that using philosophy or/and religion. Whilst it's a great tool, that doesn't mean you should impose and condemn everyone to being stuck to religion.

Lol I guess atheism can be a religion after all

"The same goes to many countries in Europe." You are wrong, there are more atheists in Europe than any other region in the world, the more advanced(not technically but in education) the country the more atheist it is, that's why religion is so tied to poverty in general.

@@Odrade100 I'm not, really. Although I can understand why you'd like that to be true. Not only is your statement untrue, as there is no measurable co-relation between higher education and loss of faith and that's just something atheists like to tell themselves to feel smarter then others, but as for Europe, I'm sure there's plenty of atheists there too, that's why I didn't say they were all religious over there, but hell, go to Italy, France, Poland, Austria- any of the eastern european nations, really, and the great majority of citizens is religious or at least believes in God, so.

Well he is an American streamer talking about an American phenomenon on an American website, it’s going to be America-centric

@@burtreynolds8030 I know. That's why I pointed it out. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just adding context.

​@@Odrade100 This coming from a region that was predominantly Christian for hundreds of years and was the home of some of the world's most prosperous super powers until the post-modern era. Now in modern times, you take that wealth and power built up over thousands of years and say it was all because Europe was "enlightened." This is pure revisionism. That's like saying Sweden is rich because it's socialist. No. Sweden was extremely capitalist and it has been stagnating for decades after it went in the direction of socialist policies. Only now that they have become more centrist, are they starting to see their GDP grow a lot more.

i agree. i don't think religion has dropped at all, it looks to me that it's actually circling back around and starting to become the new counter culture to the liberal atheist culture (at least in america). or at least people are becoming a bit more vocal about it, while before people would just keep to themselves and not announce what religion they followed. for example in my teens one of my closest friends was a Jehovah's witness and i had no idea until maybe year after knowing him. but these days i see a lot more people posting (and younger generations) a lot more about their religion than before. maybe the internet wasn't as big back then as it is now, or maybe this is my experience on my corner of the planet, generally we tend to mind ourselves and not nose around other people's business or beliefs.

People don’t realize that if you look at history religiosity has always been a pendulum that swings back and forth. Many of the internet atheists think that everybody used to be religious and it’s been slowly falling off over time, but that’s just not true at all. The easiest example of this is looking at Western Europe in the 20th century, in the 20s-40s religions and religious influence was on a huge decline as society became more and more focused on secular politics. Then after WW2 there was a huge return to religion and community, which has been declining again in recent decades. For sure American society is now less religious than it was 20 years ago, but we’ll probably see multiple swings back and forth again in the rest of the century.

​@@BuceesfanmaartenI hope we not!

It’s actually rising up like never ever!

I am of the belief that people are not just searching for a higher purpose as they get older, but that the atheist phase has played out and people have recognized that it isn't working. The high-trust space-faring society that got promised if we all just became "rational"? Never came to fruition. And by the looks of things, will never. And so people try to find meaning because no meaning and fulfillment was found within atheism. Some of that involves making their political beliefs idols, because they got nothing else and the solution "can't be spiritual" because "we are just meatbags". Others look into faith.

pretty much any subreddit that has to do with politics and/or religion

its a spiritual puberty phase

If you want a name for it, it'd be antitheism. It's the difference between not believing in something, and not believing in something AND thinking that others believing in that thing is bad.

Their are some good old wisdom in religion, but it seems like a lot of people do not learn how to live their loves and now we are learning the hard way again with consequences to come especially concerning the hyperindividualistic society

It's the same mentality that creates the "capitalism is evil" mentality. They simply do not realize that no system is perfect, and that we're running on "The best imperfect system" and that any attempts to introduce a replacement is often a much worse solution to the problem at hand. Considering how quickly social cohesion is falling apart, it becomes increasingly more obvious that a LOT of good came from it. The Christian religious right might have been annoying to straight up oppressive, but at least you knew that ultimately it came from a place of love. The stuff we see today is coming from either the absence of love or straight up hate.

@@Yggdrasill8 Wisdom like what? It's called the Golden rule, it's called empathy.. it doesn't need to be from religion. It's basic human instinct my guy.

@@thevannmann I'm pretty sure road rage is a basic human instinct. Empathy is something that needs to be taught.

Well, if you live in Western countries you are more likely than not to brush up against an Abrahamic belief set - the dominant population historically and in recent times in the US for example being Christians of various denominations. If you had a large sect of Hindus, or Buddhists, you'd likely see criticism directed at them as well, though only one species of religion seems to pervade government and education and receive specialized treatment, hence the spotlight. That being said, it really doesn't matter much whether someone is vocal or holds their tongue about their belief set - if someone feels justified (by their scriptures or institutions) to preach to a congregation they are going to do so, and if someone feels a "moral" injury caused by religion across history, they are likely going to speak up about it as well. Thankfully our species has proven itself to be mildly insane and disagreeable, and so we get the lunacy of proselytizing apologetics combined with the lunacy of aggressive atheistic groups. It's a consequence of secularism and societies that "allow" for diversity of thought - a good thing! "It's always the same insult too, which isn't nearly as true as they like to think it is. It is what it is though." Include the insult lol!

@@thomabow8949 you say abrahamic when its only ok to publicly shit on christianity and these athiests grow a "moral compass" when it comes to judaism and islam

@@thomabow8949 *tips fedora* Stunning and brave

lol @@lobot6894

@@brydro1505 So what I said was this: "if you live in Western countries you are more likely than not to brush up against an Abrahamic belief set" Then I said this: "the dominant population historically and in recent times in the US for example being Christians of various denominations" So when you say this: "its only ok to publicly shit on christianity and these athiests grow a "moral compass" when it comes to judaism and islam" I will again refer you to what I said here: "the dominant population historically and in recent times in the US for example being Christians" - I will actually expand that to "the western world" in general. Then I said this: "though only one species of religion seems to pervade government and education and receive specialized treatment, hence the spotlight..." which hopefully provides clarity as to why Christianity gets shit on in the countries in which it was rooted most over Islam and Judaism, such as the US & Western World? Which really, has nothing to do with you writing this: "athiests grow a "moral compass" when it comes to judaism and islam" as I entirely agree with that being ridiculous, each religious and secular world view deserves equal skepticism

I thought TJ also hated atheism plus. He just didn’t like it because he felt that atheism shouldn’t be a political group because it was simply the lack of a belief in a God. But yeah, I remember when they both had conversations on the drunken peasants to think I would look back at gamer gate and view that as a time, when things were less polarizing.

because there are no good in religion that you won't find somewhere else

as doubledams1 said below. whatever good there is, you dont NEED religion for it. but violence has existed for centuries and is not caused by video games . sure there may be some person who has major mental issues (whaetver the term is for it) where for that person seeing ANY MEDIA may set them off. fine. but that's a larger mental health issue. they need to get help in a hospital where current medical needs dont lend well to people with such issues. (lets pay trillions for the military.yay!) Tons of ppl play games and dont cause an issue. So explain all the violence over the years around the world - a lot of it is either land or culture/beliefs

@@doubledams1 You can say that about most things. Doesn't mean there isn't good in it and that a lot of people get a lot out of religion.

​@StarFyreXXX what a ignorant statement

I get your point, but it's a really difficult statement because religion also does _so_ much harm in the world. Just take a look at all the isreal stuff is going on right now, all the obvious bad things religion tells people todo (woman rights etc, you know what i mean). Comparing this with dumb video game critic, i don't know.

Same, I'm not an atheist but I'm supportive of people who limit themselves, if they try to enforce their own law then I have a problem

But thats like the core principle of their religion. Like i dont even consider person a christian if he hasnt tried to tell me about hes saviour Jesus. Once you get that it gets easy to tell them to fuck off because trust me than they get normal because rejection is normal for real christians. Source:non-believer married to crazy christian lady.

Members of a church... not all, but many... are encouraged to reach out and ask you to join. That is because when you reject them, they feel bad, and when they return to the community with a story of the rejection, they are welcomed home with open arms. The urge to leave a group that one feels is there when they are down is, therefore, snuffed out. The behavior is, ironically, the same among r/atheism redditors. They brag about wanting to turn people away from religion, attempt to do so irl, get rejected, and find comfort in upvotes from the community.

@@Bocchi-673e How is their going or not going to hell your problem? Mind your own sh.t! I for one, I have no need for you to meddle in my affairs. You can go wherever you choose or wherever you are welcome, as far as I am concerned.

​@@Bocchi-673e You got the demon to lash out. Lol. 2EZ GG

Chesterton the OG

Chesterton would have been king on Reddit. Thinking that you are so smart you can tell the future is what Reddit was made for. He even has the build for it. If he got that big in his time he would surely be over 600 pounds if he lived now.

@@treeforged9097 Can you imagine if his brain were fueled by energy drinks and krispy-kremes instead of steak and beer?

We're already there.

Just for fun. Roe vs wade ?

Same when people turn their sx and sxuality into their entire person. Or people who dress differently to be "unique". They all lack personality and just try to compensate it with some labels and clothing.

I remember watching TJs old podcast every time an episode dropped and just being fuming about whatever dumb unimportant stuff they were going to talk about.

@@ZeallustImmortal lmfao

Most Religious people ive meet these days would use said astronomical discoveries to help personally justify themselves the existence of God. Honesty, the universe is too vast and amazing for me to say they are wrong.

Funnily enough, the guy who first theorized the Big Bang was a Catholic priest, Georges Lemaitre. He believed that science and religion complement each other. As a STEM major, I tend to agree.

Not Christian but good brother you have, I hope he finds the truth though.

Bro if you had a satanic shirt as a kid that young that means your parents raised you to have that mentality

@@PulseGrove Couldn’t be further from the truth with my parents. My whole immediate family used to be Catholic. My mom, and brother are both hardcore Christian, and all I know with my dad is that he believes in god. I was raised in Catholicism, and Christianity in my mid teens. I’m fairly certain that I’ve never worshipped/venerated satan. I have my own personal beliefs these days, all Christianity has done for me is push me away from it.

It’s pretty awesome that kids see religion as being rebellious these days. I’m 35 and I’ve developed drug and alcohol problems I regularly battle with cos I wanted to “rebel” and thought I was being cool I miss being a teen with good morals, values and lifestyle It’s hard to break free of the shit once you get into it

@@JMagician. "‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me" Mark 7:6. It's sad to hear your experiences with Christianity have been so negative. There are plenty of hypocrites to go around. So many people see Christianity as a religion or following some set of rules. I like to see it as a relationship with God and the world we've been given. You seem pretty thoughtful and I am sure you've put effort into discovering your own beliefs. But I'd urge you, if you haven't already, to read the Bible yourself. Yeah there are plenty of boring stories. But there are also a lot of useful principles that you can discern from yourself. The real test is to see how it affects your life after YOU have decided what it means, and YOU have accepted following Him. I hope the best for you man!

It's cucking... I try to remember that when I watch it.

You feel guilty because you know that it is sin. Sexual immortality is wrong. We are all guilty of sin infront of a holy God and deserve punishment! The good news is Jesus Christ shed his blood on the cross for our sins! All those that believe in Jesus Christ alone are saved! Don't reject God's love! Don't reject God's gift of salvation! Repent and follow Jesus! 🙏❤

@@daltonnelson94 thanks dad

@@WindayDoinDamage Sin is bad, because it is bad for you. It is addiction that will put you into repeating cycle, eventually you will lose so much because of it, it will affect your life badly. Eventually at the very end every sin leads to death. And that is why it can not be accepted, God does not want that cycle that eventually leads to death. So everyone is given the choice, eventually he will take people that don't want to sin into his kingdom. It's very simple to understand.

​@@Zemlja_je_ravnanobody asked.

Agnosticism and Atheism are two different things though, you can be both, but you cannot be agnostic instead of atheist, or atheist instead of agnostic

@@halosaft ... Yes? Asmongold whole stance was 'we don't know enough to make a call yet' ... which is 100% agnostic. But right before that he told a chatter being agnostic made no sense.

He didnt say being agnostic was dumb, he was responding to somebody who said that its dumb to not believe that there has be a higher power.

Agnostic is probably most normal atheists.

I agree with the whole keep it peaceful however, 1 side will be wrong. We all have to find out when we die.

And the there is religion

Israel and Palestine are the perfect example of using their Holy Book as source from thousand of years ago to evict the local there

Claiming that any particular religion is true is on the same level as claiming that the sun revolves around the earth or that the earth is flat. You would not correct people like that?

@@divusartemis2045 What are the chances that you of all people are able to convince them that their believes are wrong when they lived their whole lives believing in what they believe? Unless they open to discussing their opinions about something or are out there bothering others about their beliefs then rather best to keep to yourself. Otherwise it'll just mean you looking for conflict. let them be. if they out there happy with their lives and living peacefully with people different and you happy with yours then it shouldnt be a problem as to if they believe in unicorns or as if Earth is shaped like Chuck Noris face.

religion provides a guideline to lead a happy life. You can lead a happy life without religion too but you have to be smart. Unfortunately not everyone is smart. Hence more people will perform better in life if they subscribed to a religion's ideology than making their own morals and ethics from scratch.

@@xecor4450 no religion is a not a guide on how to be happy , and no you’re not smarter because you don’t believe in God. The pure ignorance that you just typed is crazy .

Also I tell everyone don’t follow religion follow the Bible and Jesus .

@@hm-tr2lh legit arguing over the most semantic trivial shit is exactly the problem. xecor believes no religion = smarter the same way a religious person thinks religion = Good. Whatever internal beliefs they hold doesn't matter if it means treating people you disagree with as people. That means being able to conversate, communicate, relate, do anything to connect despite differences. you spent your time looking for a reply on a yt comment you disagree with.. to actively try and argue over a comment pointing out how fucking cringey it is to argue over someone's beliefs, unprompted. what's crazier is they're right-- for themselves personally-- you had to be RIGHT-er and prove a point. Jesus Christ man.

@@xecor4450 Religion very often had me learning against science which reinforced my beliefs usually in Sunday school but I think inherently calling someone dumb for wanting to have faith-- as opposed to them not having the same toolset that enables them to not need (or want) faith for their morality for whatever reason-- is unfair. Religion may have its issues but the same goes without. tell me what group of people you see less community focused, more lonely, less involved than an atheist who makes that their entire identity. beliefs or not no matter which way you look someone's going to be fucking stupid. sometimes they don't believe and just want community. it's individual based.

Exactly! But they desperately want to impose their moral values, to lure you "in". They have that "savior complex" BS... They should only care about their own personal business whether they get "saved" or not. I for one don't care where they end up. The reality is that no one can prove that there is or isn't a god. That is why there are so many religions, denominations and sects.

This was exactly my experience

That is because the writers are nihilists.

I mean studying the context of those verse just kind of validates the idea that they are dated and even be considered to be immoral for todays society

@@enzoarayamorales7220 yes and when you read the bible it tells you what's relevant and not relevant. the problem is when critics take the non relevant verses and act like they've discovered the weakness to religion. it's like finding a rotten apple on the ground then saying the whole orchard has gone bad. and it makes the critics look stupid in the process

@@bion-geek-le1109 It's more about not cherrypicking. There are indeed deplorable verses in there even with the context, which only serves as an affirmation that the book is a reflection of the time from it was written. It shows us those are texts by bronze age people with their bronze age beliefs.

Amen!

Deus Vult

Um achually…. 🤓

😂😂😂

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(scientifically banishes out of existence)

Yeah, religion is less of an issue somewhere like Europe. But try saying that we should all just "let everyone believe what they believe" in a non European country. In the US it's in the middle, in the middle east it's not exactly something that goes well. Too much genocide, oppression, and violent hate.

Time to watch the comment section be totally well mannered.

​@@Rat-King27seems to be on good track right now. Not saying that ironically either. But theres still time.

​@@Hertacleshonestly surprised, whenever religion is bought up people tend to get blood thirsty, but I've only seen a handful of cringelords.

@@Rat-King27 because asmongold viewers are part of the old demographic, if the video were talking about Anime, a lot of commenters would be the opposite of civilized and attacking it, 😂

The difference is that a group of annoying atheists aren't going around preaching dangerous things that can lead to mass suffering and death.

Ehhh, debatable, vann, highly debatable.

​@@thevannmannthat's not even true lmaoo🤡

​@thevannmann I guess u have never heard of jhoseph stallin u have to be like 12 years old🤡

@@thevannmann The most destruction we ever had in the history of humanity is ww1 and ww2 and they were atheistic and secular wars …so it’s the opposite.