@@Rubberduck-zt8lm I mean, if you compare to 2010-2014, yes. But I was kinda averaging the price instead of picking that period of high prices (or during Covid when it was exceptionnally low). That's why I'm talking of "paying basically the same". Though you're right, Europe pays less than in 2010-14. About 25-33 dollars less per barrel, I have to aknwoledge that fact.
@@lepetitroquet9410Russia is paying for it? 😂 You think Russia would keep selling oil if it was losing money? You people don't reason. In fact Russia's oil revenue last year was higher than 2021 when oil prices were low
@@palar4195 but it's not to their advantage; disruption of international trade will invariable lead to massive inflation all over including the United state.
@@pjhgerlach it was the Ukrainian special forces or the Americans who blow it up... Why should Russia blow up a 100 billion dollar pipe line that they played for? It will never make any sense As the Russian government loved to use the gas as a Tool against Europe ... Gas and oil is all they got😂
@@pjhgerlach If that were true, they would be screaming from the roof tops, and the investigation would be public for all to see. once again you demonstrate your western wisdom.
It is not a shadow fleet, most are not even Russian owned. They all operate legally in International waters or in the territorial waters of the buying country.
It is a shadow fleet, being owned by Russia is not necessary to be one. The "shadow" aspect is from them breaking WTO regulations, truning off responders and creating fraudulent manifests - hence why they are called "shadow".
Yet the european union isn't paying more for its oil. So... either India is selling it at a loss, or Russia is paying for having India as an intermediary ;p. Easy to see which one it is.
@@lepetitroquet9410India gets ah 30 dollars per barrel discount from Russia, for crude, Which it then refines and sells onto the market, Making ah profit, Russia the only looser
That was the point of sanctions. It forces Russia to sell its oil at heavy discounts, the intermediaries get wealthy, not Russia, and the amount of globally available oil remains stable, keeping overall prices down.
@@goodlightphotos Oil money not for war It's for lavish life of kremlinist ... Another Russians kind of beasts ... They fighting for a vodka and slice of bread ... No more need ...
@@MrJonezy541 are you Jonzen? I didnt say side with Russia, I am saying countries of the world should not let the US dictate what they will do with sanctions.
what exactly is this comment even referring to ? 🤔Sure Russia has its own laws, so do all the other countries. Russian tankers going through the baltic sea would have to enter danish or swedish waters- in which danish/swedish laws apply, not russian laws. Am I missing something here ??
Germany keep forgetting that their ally caused the biggest environmental terrorism in the Baltic sea. Attack on civilian infrastructure is also a crime in international law, but Germany is like, "let's not talk about Nordstream"
Last year, the EU approved 12 sanction packages against Russia and the Russian economy grew 3%. Meanwhile, the German economy is in "tatters". The EU sanctioned itself.
@@nigelgarrett7970yes it's overreacting. Your sanctions are not working but you're too bone headed to backtrack, sinking your other preferred war financiers EU and US in a recession. At least Russia is not begging anyone for money.
@@wolfswinkel8906 So if sanctions are not working then I suppose it is normal today to have 8% inflation and 16% interest rates, lots of other countries have that. As for begging, Putin has been begging from North Korea, China and Vietnam. Fortunately the last two turned him down. As for the US in recession, just ROTFLMAO!
@@wolfswinkel8906 The sanctions are working well enough. Russia keeps selling oil keeping price low enough on the international market, while making way less money from it all. Win-win for the western powers (and the rest of the world). "At least Russia is not begging anyone for money." Russia is bleeding money all over. The russian state is in deficit despite new hikes in taxes, coming after other hikes in taxes, all on top of high inflation. Their war coffins are emptying, the russian civilian economy is suffering and they haven't yet ran out of the soviet legacy stocks of weapons, an event that will make the cost of the war explode way beyond what it currently is. 10% of the enitre russian economy (allegedly, probably more) and growing fast, not counting the costs in blood.
@@fingerprint8479 I agree it's a good quote, but in this case, attributing it to Einstein is an attempted appeal to authority, which is itself flawed, as he was a Physicist, not a Psychologist!
I have a better idea: stop the sanctions and then proper tankers will be used again automatically! It‘s just stpid to sanction the oil purchase from Russia and then buy the same oil through 3rd countries
It's rare that a video gets people so pissy in the comments, lol. Usually it's weird astroturfing, writing completely insane and unhinged stuff. But this one really got the Putinistas all pissy, lol.
I guess EU leaders pissed because world bank said Russian economy is healthy and growing despite the 16000 sanctions and their countries economy going downhill 🤣🤣
Yeah, that is based on GDP calculations which give equal credit to production of weapons and production of apartments. Also, it doesn't discount for deaths of soldiers, despite even middle level countries placing the value of a human life at a million dollars. Even with other countries economy going downhill, the quality of life is still better than in Russia. What can I say, both Europe and Russia are sick, and going to go sicker. But the "healthy" Russian economy has citizens that are about as well off as the poorest members of the EU. That said, Russia has 6,000 nukes at least, which counts for something.
@@GonzoTehGreat physical blockade of commercial ships belonging to any country in international waters is a "casus belli".. many wars were triggered throughout history for this particular reason!!
I believe by using words like 'murky' shadow fleet and other negative words is to give a semblance of illegality. The only question is are the ships in international waters if the answer is yes. Neither Denmark or anyone can do anything physical to even disrupt the movement.
@@hypothebai4634 The largely anonymous tanker purchases can be tracked by the big increase in unnamed or new buyers appearing in registries. The vessels are generally 12-15 years old and would be expected to be scrapped in the next few years, said Anoop Singh, head of tanker research at Braemar. “These are buyers that we, as longstanding brokers, are not familiar with,” Singh said. “We are confident that the majority of these vessels are destined for Russia.”
lmao you wanna know who control those ships? its the same shipping companies who needs to transit goods to make money and meets ends need. so basically everyone.
There is no point in discussing the pressure on Denis government when you say that ships are on international waters stopping them or confiscating while it's carrying third party supplies unilateral sanction don't work there.
Yani wazungu kwakweli mmekuwa kama watoto yani akili zenu zimekuwa fupi sana hivi sijui ni nani aliewadanganya kwamba ulaya na marekani mkiwekea nchi fulani vikwazo kwamba dunia nzima itakubaliana na nyie na kwa nini mnakuwa na akili fupi,yani hiyo plan yenu imebuma tafuteni njia nyingine ya kufanya na mnakalia upumbavu nchi nyingi zitawapita kimaendeleo,mfano nchi nyingine za Asia zinakuja kasi sana kiuchumi ila nyie mnajidanganya mnazani watu wataendelea kusikiliza ujinga wenu kama hui hadi lini.mjifunze sana kiufupi mmeshindwa na msipoangalia mtakuja kuwa wakimbizi Russia mda si mwingi.
Ohh so suddenly international Waters should come under scrutiny when used by Russia to export oil but not when america and NATO sends warships into them... Well done 😂😂😂
The amazing thing is Germany is buying LNG gas via ships from Russia , earlier they had their own pipelines!! obviously LNG is very expensive compared to Pipelines…..Some very brilliant economists sitting in the German Govt!!
No, they didn't. And the EU organized these sanctions to do exactly this. They wanted to make Russia to make no money off of selling the oil, while keeping global supply stable. If Russia were to be cut off from the global market completely, it would just make oil prices explode, making it profitable for Russian shadow fleets. Like this Russia makes no money, India gets discounts that strengthen their economy and sell the refined products to the EU at the same market prices as before. The only loser is Russia, who's refinery industry loses out the most.
@@serebii666 The fact is that Indian refineries working with Russian oil are partially owned by Russians. For example, the second largest refinery in India belongs to Nayara Energy Corporation. And 49% of Nayara Energy shares belong to.... Rosneft😂😂😂
Solution is simple - just require all vessels that wants to enter the Baltic Sea to submit insurance and classification papers before entering to show they are probably insured and in seaworthy condition. All countries bordering the Baltic will jointly enforce the control and rejection of vessels not up to scratch, I.e. Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Russia if they chose to want to protect the ecosystems of the Baltic Sea
Russia will do the same in the Red Sea and the Strait of Gibraltar by leveraging its allies. The problem with international laws is that if you start to apply them only when they suit your needs, they lose their strength. If we foolishly follow your idea, international shipping will become, at last, the subject of maritime piracy. Every country will have to escort its vessels, and that is a no-profit scenario.
Conundrum. Unfortunately the world needs Russia's oil. It's sold at low rates, hopefully not contributing much to Kremlin coffers, while use of other suppliers are bound to increase international prices.
@@jpl9148 maybe you should try yourself to convince the Indians to pay a premium for their oil purchase from Alberta, I wish you all the luck with that task
Russia will do the same in the Red Sea and the Strait of Gibraltar by leveraging its allies. The problem with international laws is that if you start to apply them only when they suit your needs, they lose their strength. If we foolishly follow your idea, international shipping will become, at last, the subject of maritime piracy. Every country will have to escort its vessels, and that is a no-profit scenario.
Russia doesn't have enough naval assets to do this. The cost of accompanying these relatively small size vessels with military escort would wipe out the profit from exports from that ship.
here's a thought!!! get the law going to outlaw un/under insurance, then move to confiscate the empty vessels in breach. That took me 5 seconds to work out!!!
Russia will do the same in the Red Sea and the Strait of Gibraltar by leveraging its allies. The problem with international laws is that if you start to apply them only when they suit your needs, they lose their strength. If we foolishly follow your idea, international shipping will become, at last, the subject of maritime piracy. Every country will have to escort its vessels, and that is a no-profit scenario.
Yeah, India will always support Russia until the Suez Canal and Danish Straits get blockaded, and it isn't economically feasible to get any significant oil from Russia to India.
@@richdobbs6595 Learn about russia-iran-india trade route - your point is a moot point that india addressed ages ago. That's why India built Iranian Bandar Abbas Port / Chabbahar Port
@@namewithheldforprivacy7107At the current time India doesn't import oil from Iran, due to concerns about secondary sanctions. No reason to think that if things get serious regarding blockades that the USA wouldn't become even more serious about secondary sanctions. I mean, it is feasible that Russia could put in a ghost fleet in the Caspian.
what an intelligent comment... DW is german and the german laws protect independent news, so no, it has nothing to do with the U.S.. If you are Indian, you seemingly have no clue about the politics of your own country. The Soviet Union/Russia sold weapons to China and India- which both used to fight each other. India recently ordered Russian weapons - which didn´t get delivered since they were needed in the Ukraine - which is a problem since India and China are in an open border-conflict. In recent years India has seeking closer connections to the west since India is in need of a lot of investments (China is now far more developed than India thanks to investments from other countries) and weapons + China will always have better connections to Russia than India. If the war between China and India turns hot, where would India get support from ? With all those western sanctions on Russia, western brands got replaced- by chinese brands ;)
Can’t they turn back any ship without proper insurance? When I drive my car and get stopped, my car is impounded unless I can prove that I have insurance. Can’t they impound these ships?
Nord stream was blown up in Danish waters. biggest release of methane in history, biggest environmental disaster in history. Didn't hear a thing from Danes then.
@@GonzoTehGreat On 26 September at 02:03 local time (CEST), an explosion was detected originating from Nord Stream 2; a pressure drop in one of its pipes was reported and natural gas began escaping to the surface southeast of the Danish island of Bornholm. Seventeen hours later, the same occurred to both pipes of Nord Stream 1, resulting in three separate leaks northeast of Bornholm.
They are on their final stand, India will not give the only loyalty they also plan to destroy maybe, while rest of asia is alert as they already made their moves,the world is strong and strict, we need this to be a defence against eachother to save humanity,but also developement cant be halted, as people flee and feed on these countries..😅
Like the heat seeking missiles is it possible to develop an image seeking missiles to destroy an enemy aircraft by feeding the images of enemy aircraft in the missile??
