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Video is unnecessary coz the movies alone show his way beyond peak human, surviving multiple blows from Thanos when gods had passed out he bought the universe more time single handed... without him Thor would be dead... Thanos cut his leg and the guy was running in the next scene
Haha, MCU Fanboys who probably insults Comic readers. My comic friends hates when someone jumps in referencing MCU moments than laugh off saying comics are worthless. Respect the source material, probably better stories and imagination from better writers.
I never said that during a crossover event Captain America and Batman have said that they were both equal in terms of fighting that Batman's real advantage is his surrounding's .always mind your surroundings-Ras Al Ghul i had to make a Batman Begin's refrence but anyway's if you read the comic you will noticed how Captain America and Batman treated each other with respect Batman admitted Captain America beat him depending on the situtation , how both of them could fight for days without a winner until someone pass out of exhaustion so yeah did a pretty good job with this fight if you haven't check it out DC/Marvel 2005 read online it's a dope comic.
I really hate that low-balling. Especially thanks to Death Battle, when they said "Batman is more than just a boxer", meanibg that Cap is "just a boxer". Bullshit! Cap is one of the best martial artists in Marvel and he has fought against such skilled fighter like Batroc, Red Skull, Crossbones, Deadpool, Bullseye, Wolverine, Daredevil, Punisher, Black Widow, Nick Fury, Shang Chi and even freakin' Iron Fist! And he is still "just a boxer"? About boxing - Cap is a good boxer too, and he even has worked under cover and has fought against metahuman boxer on the underground ring, and beaten him, despite that fact this boxer was strong enough to wreck a human's head with a punch.
Not sure why people think I was hating on Batman, or giving my verdict on the match in this video. Batman was brought up frequently because of the comparisons being used to act like Cap is dumb lol. Its well known I am Batman myself. So weird flex with the accusations
It's a common thing in comics. But sometimes it's just get too ridiculous, when someone who is a street-leveler easily beat someone who's way superior in strength, speed, durability, skills, powers and etc.
Cap is strong enough to lift up a car, bench press a freakin' 1 ton casually and send Wolverine fly with a punch through a jeep. And he has defeated Rhino by KOing him by face punch, which requires a lot of striking strength. Yeah yeah, Cap is just peak humans and only thanks to serum, yadda yadda.
Marvel and DC define peak human differently as well. People want to say it makes him as strong as a human can be, but that's not right. It makes him as strong (and fast and smart and etc...) as human evolution will ever allow for. He's beyond the evolution point of modern humans. He's peak human in that he's the peak of evolution. If the super-soldier-serum only made him peak relative to current humans, it would have been a lot easier and cheaper just to take a bunch of normal current humans and have them do a bunch of pushups. As far as Cap being smart, I think Marvel is majorly sandbagging him. He can speed-read and has a photographic memory. They could give him one week in the MIT school library and come away as one of the most science/tech-savy characters in the verse. Give him another week studying directly under Richards/Pym/Stark, and he'll be their equal. Further, as we've learned from Dr. Strange, magic isn't necessarily an inborn ability. It is also a skill that people can learn. Just as we did above with MIT, we could send Cap to study with Dr. Strange and a few weeks later he'd be the equal of the Sorcerer Supreme. Now we're talking about a character with Super Soldier physicals, top-tier tech/gadgets, as well as top tier magic. He'd basically be the good-guy version of Dr. Doom ... but better. He'd be one of the most powerful characters in the verse for sure.
Yeah. Same I can say about Deathstroke, because his brain works 9 times faster than human brain. He could do the same too. Same about Superman, who already has read a book about a surgery and was a surgeon to Lois Lane to heal her wounds. He can literally be omnipotent in skills and knowledges, and surpass Batman in this terms. And Flash too, because he not just run fast, but heals fast and his brain works very fast too.
I believe you’re right too because look at certain comics of Bruce banner, he creates technology that surprise tony stark…. What he did with mirin’s technology is crazy and in the indestructible hulk series his intelligence is shown greatly!
Thank you. Literally got into a discussion with two guys who were mad that Cap held his own against Spider-man in a fight. Saying Peter is smarter, stronger, faster, and more agile (which is true). But they fail to realize that Cap has fought people beyond his physical capabilities before and won. And Cap is the superior strategist, fighter, and has more experience. Essentially they were down playing Cap not realizing how good he is.
@@darthsw0lev3rine95 literally debated 2 guys on the exact same topic. Cap vs Spiderman and some of the claims against cap were obsurd. People really don’t support this man in the comics :(
@@TheGamingRift11 They sleep on him so much. Not knowing he is the best strategist in Marvel. Is a legit superhuman in terms of physicals and mental capacity. However, a lot think he is some dude with a shield. They just need to read dudes comics to understand
@@darthsw0lev3rine95 agreed. I was seriously triggered when screwattack came at his skill, saying “cap is JUST a boxer” or Danco saying “Cap is just a boxer” it’s like bruh. He’s beaten some of the best fighters in marvel. Unless they are implying marvel characters are only BOXERS 😂
Especially Wolverine, who's about 130+ years old and he has studied 15 kung fu style and all other martial arts too. Even aliens was impressed about Logan's fighting skills.
Thank you ive been tired of the disrespect towards Captain America for years and all the Batman fan boys you broke this down where you can't argue these points
I'm really glad you made this video. Anytime there's a debate about Cap vs. another hero, his physicality and fighting skills are ALWAYS downplayed. I remember the death battle where it was Cap vs. Batman and they basically said Cap was "only a boxer"... I almost fell out of my chair. Cap is, quite literally, in the upper echelon of fighters in either Marvel OR DC. People actively avoid physical fights with this guys for a reason. I'm also glad your brought up his intelligence. Here's how smart this guy is: anytime he throws his shield and richoets it off of multiple different surfaces to take out multiple people with perfect accuracy? He's literally doing the geometrical analysis in his head to make that work. That's how insane his brain is. He can learn languages in hours. He can master weaponry in less than a minute. The guy is a freaking beast mentally. Thank you!!
@@DocGoon Bruh... That shit pissed me off. Literally all they needed to do was read one comic to know that wasn't true. Between that and them thinking freaking SMOKE PELLETS would be the difference maker, I was done lol. I have a recommendation if you're up for it: how strong is Daredevil. People underrate his abilities too. I constantly see people saying that all it takes is sonic weapons or loud noises to take him down. I'd love to see any content you could make about that bro👍🏿 Anyway man, keep doing what you're doing. I like that you bring actual knowledge to debates and discussions!
@@mongooseunleashed I think Web-Head fits more as a GL due to him always being negative on himself,persevering and is super creative since a young age . Ben would be the best Blue Lantern.
@@adamquenano8563 Eh, that's actually why I don't think Spiderman would be a Green Lantern. He doesn't have drive or a cause. He's just fighting crime because he feels guilty over not saving his uncle. His will isn't that great. His hope is good though.
@@mongooseunleashed Agree to disagree Spidey has his own personal cause. There’s a story where Spider-Man fights Thanos that showcased his immense will power in the issue where even in limbo he will fight for and be there for anyone. His strive to take care of any responsibilities with his minimal powers and slowly deal with his greatest tragedies and atonement while while giving up a good life while not going crazy for what he’s lived through and being immensely creative makes him a great Gl to me.
Captain America is very underrated and I think that is largely due to him being seen as outdated and old fashioned but that's why I like cap because his morals and values may seem outdated in the modern world, I don't think they should be. Like agent Coulson said," people might just need a little old fashioned."
They really need to clear this up, Bats is the peak human, Cap is Super human. The reason why bats is very respected is because if he's have prep time he's even that much more dangerous.
Batman is superhuman . Being a peak human is literally a superhuman feat, being a peak human is impossible in our world, we will never see a peak human, but batman can do it, and that's very unrealistic, but hey,he is a comic character
Captain America is my number one favorite Avenger, i love what he stands for, what he fights for, the fact that he’s a really humble and grounded person and isn’t completely picky who he lets fight by his side like some heroes do
Cap is basically peak human in each ability(Strength,Speed,Endurance,agility and healing etc etc) the best a human can ever be BUT it is ALL of those stats together that makes him "super human" as in reality human athletes usually can only achieve one of them through training like Oylpimic athletes and never all those abilities at once like the super soldier serum gave him.
@Caleb Mayfield the thing about Mount Rushmore is it's said to feature the faces of the greatest Presidents ever. He's saying if they were making a Mount Rushmore monument of Marvel Heroes he would be on it.
@Caleb Mayfield1. You said it yourself. You can just look at Mount Rushmore and know that it's associated with greatness. 2. It's a fairly common expression in sports...who's on your Mount Rushmore of football players, basketball, wrestlers...etc so it's not hard to figure out what he's getting at.
So normies have really been claiming that Cap is just some untrained brawler? That's ridiculous. Even when I was younger reading comics in school I understood that he's one of the best fighters in Marvel. Fake geek normies just stan whoever they think is cooler or more popular.
i’d say the misconceptions of Cap’s abilities MOSTLY come from people’s lack of knowledge and understanding of him. as you stated, the movies didn’t really portray him as good and smart as he really is. i for one, just a few days ago, learned how incredible Cap is from reading the comics both mentally and physically. so not only does his portrayal in movies effect his image, but also people’s willingness to pick up a book and read. or watch a video like this. i think it’s pretty obvious more people read Batman comics than Captain America’s, so they’re immediately biased and lack information. i’d say the same thing they are if I didn’t decide to do research before speaking.
Yeah, he deserve his own respect thread video. Albeit a RU-vidr called Ivan The UnStoppable already has made a video called "How strong is Captain America (Steven Rogers)".
I loved this video, I didn't know cap was as skilled as you mentioned and I had previously disagreed but after going over Hercules and sky father level characters and their lore, it makes a lot of sense they'd be better fighters than batman. I would love to see more cosmology videos from your channel, I think they're very interesting. The materials I see with the most downplayed cosmologies like DC, Dragon ball, Ben 10 (yes the kid show), and even Guren Lagann and I don't understand some scaling people get without researching the cosmology itself. It's fine if you're not interested in these series though considering half of them are for kids and you are probably already planning to make or be involved in a DC cosmology video.
Well thought out and articulated. I could not agree more. Cap is regularly under estimated. I feel the same thing is done to the Vision in the Avengers. Thank you for clarifying Cap's capabilities.
Again, it all depends on the directors perspective. Remember Thor was always bleeding in the first movies, then all of a sudden he can survive falling on a planet without a scratch
I have to say there's a difference between learning/leading and having the ability to deploy tactics. It depends on your overall ability to lead as you state later in the video and only a handful of characters from each universe has this. Yes, Black Widow has ability and Magneto is a leader but who would choose their tactics over Cap or Cyclops? And what makes Cap so valuable is having the correct mixture of these traits.
One of Caps superpowers is that it is easier to make great characters that aren't OP. Cap and Ben Grim are two of the most well balanced characters in comics.
There was a tournament hosted by another guy on RU-vid named Fernando Comics and he had Captain America in it and I saw so many people downplay Cap and some legitimately said cap is only peck human. Also could you do Carnage vs Bat family(Damian, Barbra, Dick, and Bruce)?
Captain America is no joke, if person were to write a book about what he's fully capable without holding back it would be astounding. 1. Let's gets straight to the point he has the ability to see faster, think faster, move faster and adapt to things faster than a regular human plus he also has photograph memory. So if he wants to be the best doctor all he has to do is learn about it and maybe in few hours or days or a week he would achieve it. Or if he wants to learn how to make iron man suits I don't doubt he could achieve that. With advance mind like his almost anything is possible for him. He could easily master all Martial arts in a year Maybe a month idk maybe that's to quick but without doubt with an Advance mind like caps he could learn everything and never forget every single detail of skill. Caps Mind and ability is not to be underrated. But Batman isnt either for many reasons plus he's also fought deathstroke someone who is DC's super soldier but much more dangerous then cap
This video was definitely needed, and I love the Cap and Batman comparisons too. Bats is great and all but Cap has fought characters from marvel that would absolutely stomp Bats. And as a martial artist, Batman saying he has mastered all martial arts is stupid because there are so many that are pointless and unnecessary.
I really love this video and think that cap and superman get shit on way too much but i think batman wins more often than not here. Caps whole thing is that he consistently gets beat down and getting back up is his whole shtick. Meanwhile when batman loses it starts a whole character arc. Cap is the better hero and leader, but i feel like all the feats point towards batman beating him in a fight. At the same time, cap doesnt restrict himself from using weapons 🤔
Yo real talk: your respect videos are the TRUTH. SO MUCH better than others cause you umm...what’s the word...do the research? Yes, I believe that’s it.
Regarding intelligence for captain America he’s a soldier, he’s been in many wars so I’m sure his tactical and strategical intelligence is higher than Batman
Thanos is NOT a deviant. Hes a full blooded Eternal born by two eternal parents but with a mutation called the "deviant gene" that some Eternals are born with but is not a member of the deviant race.
People forget that as "smart" folks think Batman is, he never actually invented his Bat gadgets; they were all invented by Luscious Fox. Bruce Wayne/Batman simply knows how to use them. Cap is capable of learning ANYTHING at an accelerated rate, as he sees, thinks & acts dozens of times faster than regular humans... even Batman.
I like Batman but let’s be honest he can’t beat cap Captain America is a underrated character they never show his full power and potential same as Superman
Guys I just wanna know... Can cap fight against spiderman... Both not holding back... I know physically spidey is another level... Can cap hang in with spiderman.??? It's like some people say cap can't even touch spidey during combat??? Is that true?
I agree people should not sleep on Cap. He is far more than what he is portrayed as in the MCU. Comic readers know that. However, I have to disagree with you on Batman’s skill, ability, and intelligence. No Batman is not powerful like Superman, but he knows that. He uses his intelligence (which is a notch or 2 below Lex Luthor) to defeat you. Batman fits the definition of peak human better than Cap. Cap is superhuman.
Batman is super human, Being a peak human is literally a superhuman feat, being a peak human is impossible in our world, we will never see a peak human.
And batman is not just a peak human, he is a peak human in the DC universe, and DC humans are stronger than the humans of our world, Think about it he is superior to the olímpic athletes of his world, and the olímpic athletes of the DC universe can break our world records without any problem, batman is so freaking superhuman
I know I'm late to deliver my opinion but (and I'm speaking as a die-hard DC Comics fan), I would always choose Cap over Batman. Not only for the reasons you gave but because he is a symbol of trust and hope to people, like Superman. Batman kinda does too, but he depends mostly on fear in order to get the results he wants. And that's not what you really need or want in a leader. Also, as much as I respect Batman for everything he's done over the years, DC Comics is becoming more and more dependent on Batman and his world (sidekicks, villains, Gotham City, etc.) and that just isn't right. Batman is not the be-all and end-all of everything. Even other DC superheroes have said that they're sick and tired of always having to depend on whatever Batman feels about every situation. Batman is mostly an anti-social guy with an superiority attitude about himself that really pisses people off ALOT of the time. And as what was said in the Justice League movie, his only real superpower is "He's Rich". Combine that with his intelligence and fighting skills and that makes him a good teammate but NOT a good leader. Captain America is stronger, faster, has greater stamina, is a much more capable warrior than Batman, and because of that super soldier serum in his veins, Captain America can just do more physical things that would take at least 2 or 3 Batmen to do in the same amount of time. And, Cap has proven to be much more trustworthy and approachable as both a leader and as a friend. Batman is mostly seen as a symbol of fear and intimidation but Captain America has always been seen as a symbol of trust, respect and hope - not just hope in America but in general. Batman's great but Captain America's better.
I absolutely despise the term "Peak human" it's the most ridiculous classification. It's implication is that a normal human possibly could naturally replicate these stats, when in reality we already have people that are above "Peak human" IRL with people that are on steroids. Steroids push you way beyond what is possible naturally and even these people come nowhere near matching a "Peak human" like Captain America.
Yeah, and being a peak human is literally impossible in our world, like no one could ever be as fast as bolt and at the same time deadlift 500 kg like Hafhor bjornsson, and at the next day run a marathon (42 km) in less than 2 hour like kenesina bekele. So being a peak human is a super human feat that only comic book characters can do
@@user-cn7wy7xx5k Exactly, you can only train the human body to be great at one thing and less than average at everything else, or you can train it to be average to decent at everything. In order to lift absurd amounts of weight your body is going to need to put on significant amounts of muscle, and to run a marathon competitively your body will need to greatly reduce the amount of muscle. These street level human characters would realistically have to look for a healthy balance between strength, speed and endurance. Kinda like a pro MMA fighter or something. If they were to spec into one area to heavily they would suck at their job
I mean everybody knows Batman is smarter but people literally use that excuse like it’ll make a difference. But here’s where I disagree- black panther and Ironfist do not know more martial arts than Batman..
Yeah i never liked Marvel insisting he is only peak human .. Always wondered how he takes hits from Ironman, Hulk and Thor but bullets can kill him.. By the way i think Captains mind has great logic and order but Batmans mind except order and logic can be more chaotic and Dark.. so that can make his mind more creative and dangerous i d say.
And blunt force issame as penetration by bullets. Spider-Man has taken a lot of beating from superstrong characters, but he still can be stabbed by knives or shot by bullets.
I mean he is a peak human. A peak human in comics is a lot different from a peak human in real life. Daredevil has also taken hits from Ironman, Hulk, and Thor. In fact these days anyone can take a hit from anyone.
Batman ain't shit his a cheat code, the superhuman strength alone gives cap the upper hand....we saw the smallest supersoldier ever kill a man in his peak with one punch in falcon and bucky season 1
I never disliked captain america but I wasn't a true fan until the 1st Avengers movie and winter soilder. Then I went back to watch "the first Avenger". He's been in my top 5 since. My only problem is I just wish Captain America is had a 2 pistols, one full size 10mm on his right leg drop holster only 2 extra mags in shoulder holster, a 357 snub nose in his inner left boot. That just never made since but I know that is mainly the writers tho.
Cap is more than human my guy, he threw a bike at a car and it flipped (the car carrying 4 men)...cap tanked a building falling on him without a scratch,.. if bucky dodged bullets from falcon at close range then cap can.... A small lady with the serum one shotted an adult male and he died instantly, may I go on...cap can kill batman with one punch super strength is alot in a one for one fight. That fuckin shield can cut batman in half....when Thor and ironman were taking a nap, cap stayed standing
Bro is talking about movies😂this is comics this is something else captain in comics is a monster compared to mcu captain America and batman from comics also have fought cap lot of occasions 😂
Peak human my ass, have never seen a human drop from 200 feet like a boss.... Cap fought a super shield jet and cap won, I love the winter soldier movie. Who fights a fuckin jet with their hands and a freezby
I love batman fuck captain marvel fuck superman spiderman is okay but truly captain america is the greatest super hero in at least the terms.of what a true hero and good person is supposed to be period
Yeah, agree. He is actually more interesting than most people thought about him. He was a Cap's successor for a while and even was a leader some teams. And if I recall correctly, USAgent is even more stronger than Captain America.
