How Strong is the Raimiverse Spider-Man? 

Maybe you accounted for this and I missed it, but the train in Spider-Man 2 was still under full acceleration. No only were there no brakes, but the train still had full power which meant Spider-Man wasn't just fighting the weight of the train he was fighting the strength of the train's engine. It's the difference between turning your car off at 80 mph on the highway and seeing how much force it takes to bring it to a stop and putting your car in cruise control at 80 mph and seeing how much force it takes to stop.

What about the weight of the people in the train carriages?

Wouldn't the train scene be the definitive example of his max strength level? I mean, he passed out after stopping it. His body reached its final limit before giving out from the stress. However, I do acknowledge that he was battling Doc Ock beforehand. So maybe it comes down to his stamina.

Here's some math I did on my own: The trains in the movie were filmed in Chicago on the CTA Single car: 26,000 kg Max speed: 30.56 m/s I count 5 cars; so five 26,000 kg cars moving at 30.56 m/s The train accelerated to its maximum speed from service speed in about 2 seconds F=ma F=(5 cars*26,000 kg) ((30.56-24.7)/2s) F = 380,900 N Pressure = Force/Area Tobey maguire is 1.72 meters tall Arm span is about equal to height Area = 2.96 m2 In order to stop the train he must resist it with a force that’s at least equal 380,900 N / 2.96 m2 Pressure is about 128,682 pascals The force of the train would be about in pounds is about 87877.8 Which is about 43.9 tons I probably did stuff incorrectly but oh well

Tobey Maguire was a good Peter Parker and a decent Spider-Man. He's still my favorite Spider-Man though.

Dude you missed his strongest feat. When a giant wall from an abandoned building was about to fall on mj. He caught the thing and pushed it off. That was built with brick and steel braces. He commented how heavy the wall was. BEFORE liftinf it off of him.

A hell of a lot stronger than is given credit for. He could have held his own if he ever had to fight the Hulk while being far nimbler.

Gripe. When you compare the train scene to tom’s ferry scene from homecoming, you seem to be ignoring many different variables. Firstl you forgot about the people’s weight during the train scene. Secondly as far as I recall Tom only holds the ferry for around 5 seconds, while Toby held the train for as you counted 48 seconds, which as you know the longer you hold a heavy weight, the more taxing and difficult it becomes to support. Thirdly, you overlooked the fact that homecoming Spider-Man shot many of his incredibly strong webs onto the main supports of the ship, meaning that Tom is only supporting a small fraction of the ships weight. While all your math is correct, it’s just a few small details which makes each of the scenes more or less impressive. Thanks for reading, you have earned my like

tobey's spiderman best spiderman... he was the nerd we all loved

Don't think u should've used the motorcycles, he had the black suit, which *increases* his strength.

Toby Maguire was awesome

Tobey was a wonderful Spiderman and Topher was an amazing Venom.......Such underrated performances from both of them in that film.

Toby was the best spiderman, he was a normal guy like us in the movie, then he got upgraded and acting was marvelous

13 tons? dude nice video,i appreciate the effort, but i think its waaay more than that,the train was much much more than 13 tons,and the big metal wall at the end of spider-man 2,not only that wall was pulled down by gravity,but also by magnetic field caused by the sun doc ock made,which was really really strong,it pulled cars kilometers away

Raimi Spiderman was the best spiderman and the best superhero out there. Period.

You missed the part in spiderman 3 where he pops open the giant water pipe thingy while fighting the sandman.

There's two big things you forgot. The wall from the collapsing building and the fact that wall and the Roosevelt car were falling when he caught them, which means that the amount of force from those two objects was greatly increased because they were falling with the force of gravity at a great distance. Also, the MCU Spiderman did not hold the train together. That was the work of the webs and Iron Man helping him, so MCU Spiderman did very little to hold it together, and it would have sunk if he did not get help. Raimi Spiderman is the strongest, but it may change in later MCU movies.

Also I found Tobey McGuire was an awesome Spider-Man. Revisiting the second film recently reminded me that this guy is true hero and my Spider-Man!

"how fast does the cw flash have to go to open a breach to another earth" like in the Supergirl crossover

I'd have to say my favorite Spider-Man fight scene is his final battle with green goblin. Seeing this previously OP hero be brought to his knees with almost no effort really brought the suspense, but then that final rush of adrenaline that turned the tide of the battle was relieving and completely epic.

Nice video keep up the good work!

1:29 This feat alone is greater than anything else mentioned, metal poles used for construction are around 10 cm in diameter, that can be used to calculate the cross-sectional area which can be multiplied by the minimum compressive strength of concrete (2500 psi) to get a force over 15 tons.

You put in quite a bit of work into these videos! It is appreciated!

I did the Math differently I used the train scene. Your probably not going to see this comment but I caculad around 32 Million Neutons he can handle without dying.

So during the insane math calculations, I just kept hearing Homer Simpson's voice say, "NEEEERD!" lol

you forgot in Spiderman 3, before going underground to fight sandman, he takes both concert and metal plate from the ground to how under

Great vid!,as always

My favorite Spider-Man fight scene is in Spider-Man 2 where Spider-Man is facing Dr.Octopus at the train scene.

Literally no dislikes on this video, keep up the great work!

in the spider-man 2 game he's able to stop the train in about 5 seconds which is even more ridiculous. don't know if that counts but it's worth mentioning.

Another great video. Just wondering when will the top speed for reverse flash come out?

Great video!

Don't stop doing RU-vid bro I love your videos. But I still think there's still room for improvement

you accurly missed the best feat. he held a porstion of the where house that was 15% steal and 85% wood and has a width of 1.2m a height of around 9m and a length of around 7m. using this we can see it weights 116 tons. seems pretty important.

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Hey, I just came across your video, I think you should take into account the ppl inside the trains in the train stop to have a more accurate mass. Also I think you should analyze his feat at the end of Spider-Man 2 where he caught a massive wall of iron and, while he was carrying it, he also prevented it from being pulled by the minisun’s gravitational force, I think it has the potential to be a greater feat. Loved the video btw, great analysis.

tobeys spidey is way stronger than 13 tons

You forgot to mention the door he lifted in Spider-Man 2, and then he threw it like it was nothing

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Him not being as strong is cool, cause the raimi films feel at least to me more grounded and aren't as comic book, like the mcu. Plus this goes with the character having organic webbing and not webshooters as raimi didn't think a high school kid would be smart enough to make web shooters

I just found your channel about two days ago and immediately subscribed. I'm thoroughly enjoying your videos, especially how you go about breaking down the science and equations. Keep up the good work! BTW, could you perhaps do a video on the top strength of the Hulkbuster? Please? Lol.

This is Great! Thanks Man! NOW You Should TOTALLY Do Superman (The Man of Steel) Next!

Rami I think got it right. Spider-Man should be this strength level. Writers are always powering down Spider-Man. Nice to see him powered where the character should be. Made sense to make the webbing come out of his body. The web shooters never made sense really.

How strong is the Henry Cavil's Superman?

nice video!!

The whole fight with dock ock and Spidey starting from the clocktower to the train scene. So epic

How about in Spiderman 2, when he was swinging after seeing MJ with another man, and fell several stories out of the air, and then got up like it was nothing?

I Think Toby Maguire Was A Perfect Peter Parker And Spiderman He Was Good To But Since Peter Parker Is The Story Toby Is The Best Spiderman

This video is amazing, i really like to watch calculations of scaling characters and from now i already watched dozens of your videos and i liked each one. Recently i saw a scale to him for a feat u didnt used, the metal wall he lifted in the final of SM2, Tobey holds back a metal wall that was attracted by the fusion reactor despite being extremely weakened + screaming internally. The Fusion reactor was at 1000 mega watts the first time it was activated. In the final battle, the fusion reactor had been on much longer than befoore, meaning it had surprassed 1000 megawatts + it was rapidly accelerating (the 1000 megawatts was stated in the novel). Using a converter 1000 megawatts = 1000000N = 100.361 Kiloton, so using VS Battle tiering system, he did a Large Town Level of Feat, obviously not all energy is transferred to the gravitational store, but the reactor was accelerating, pulling cars from across the city. This aligns to large town level energy, could be slightly higher, Tobey was also extremely weakened

Great video! I loved Tobey, my favorite Spider-Man so far. I got some advice for you, though. Try not to include decimals for grams, you should approximate. It'll make the numbers flow a little better, if that makes sense.

What about the comic book Spider-Man? I remember a panel where he he has a brick in each hand and crushes them in a moment of frustration. I was probably 12 at the time but still thought, " HOLY SHIT! That's incredible!"

how about the metal wall from Spider-Man 2? judging from his size comparison and the impact force and INCLUDING WHERE HE CAUGHT IT AND HELD IT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

Love ur videos man keep it up but pleas make a video about Now strong is the Hulk in the MCU!!!!

Tobey maguire spiderman can Cary 13 ton while the amazing spider-man can Cary 18. Then that means that Andrew Garfield can also stop that super fast train.

"Is there a feat I forgot to mention?" Catching that falling metal construct to save Mary Jane in Spider-Man two

Man one favourite thing i like about you is that youre so smart i would like to have more friends like you

Can You Do A Bale Vs Affleck Face-off! Great Videos, Love Watching Them

toby and doc oc was boxin in the second movie yall cant even lie

I think you forgot that scene in Spider-Man 2 when Spidey lifts that huge piece of metal to save MJ, that could weigh at least 15 tons I'd say

Great Video Bro, How Strong Is Spider Man From the Amazing series ( Andrew Garfield )

5:25 what about the weight of people in the train?

Also the fact MCU never actually stopped it, only slowed it down AND had support from the suit.

Do the reverse flash video!!!!!!

The final calculation is so incorrect it's comical. First of all, Venom's webbing couldn't even support MJ's weight as there were many times where she'd fall down and snap the webs apart in the process. So does that mean Peter can't even lift MJ orrrrr...? Secondly, both of Maguire's hands were tied by individual strands of webbing, meaning that Tobey was, if anything, supporting 13 tons on each hand. Meaning that his top strength is double your final calculation if anything (26 tons). But even then, considering the fact that even at the end of the fight with Venom he still managed to tear out of his webbing (after being brutally beaten against steel beams by a building-sized Sandman and being strangled against the beam by Venom, who's much stronger than him), and at the start of the fight when he did the same thing without tiring himself out much at all, goes to show that his max strength probably much surpasses 26 tons if anything. Thirdly, Holland's ferry feat is unreliable. If you analyse the footage, you can see that the ferry broke apart at the same rates prior to Holland's intervention, meaning he didn't do much (or anything) at all. We all know that Maguire actually stopped the train in the end. Fourthly, you said Raimiverse Spider-Man, so why did you end up only streamlining the research to the movies version and exclude the games, novels, and comics? In those source material, Maguire's strength much surpasses 13 or 26 tons. But even outside of your final calculation, you excluded some other things. Like the fact that Maguire scales to Otto's arms, which were shown to be easily capable of tearing apart solid brick and even pull apart a steel vault door, which was built to withstand tank rockets at close-range (putting it at 23.6 MJ (not Mary Janes; MegaJoules); 0.25-2 tons; Small Building-Level). Or how Goblin's pumpkin bombs could outright reduce people to ashes (putting them at similar scaling to 0.25-2 tons; Small Building-Level). Maguire's Spider-Man not only tanked 1 to the face (unlike Harry, it didn't scar half of his face), but then survived being brutally pummeled by Goblin who ranked close to Maguire's Spider-Man. Or how about how he tanked ¬7 overhead hammer-fists by the building-sized Sandman and after New Goblin helped him up, he didn't seem to be restrained at all. Then there's the large wall he threw at the end of Spider-Man 2. He threw the wall while it was under the gravitational influence of Otto's sun, which was described (and shown) to be capable of sucking everything that wasn't tied-down in NYC. Meaning that the force necessary to overpower the influence would be around 300 billion Joules, or City Block-Level+ (this is, of course, an inconsistent feat since we don't see many moments of Maguire doing crazy stuff like this in the films, novels, games, or comics). He's FAR stronger than just merely 13 or 26 tons...

Not even gonna mention the fact he took like 5 slams from a giant sand fist against a steel beam while being choked by venom’s “webbing” and still survived?

Can you do a video about how strong the wolverine is? Love your videos btw

One thing people always forget about the train scene, is that the train crashes into those bumper things near the end. That easily slowed the train down

Tobey Maguire is the best spiderman and strongest one

Actually your video on MCU Spidey was during the trailer of homecomings. And you didn't know the tensile webs did the 98percent of the job in keeping the boat together.

The Doctor Strange ad is the best thing ever! I actually watched all of it

Please do a how strong is dceu superman

you missed a small detail. The fact that he could stick the poles in the concrete floor means he'd have to generate at least 28,000,000 newtons to penetrate it. The average human can only generate up to 5,000 newtons with their fist. The fact that he could generate 28 million newtons make him at least 5,600x stonger than a normal man which means 378 tons!

Have you got any on how strong/sharp wolverines claws are (Hugh Jackman's wolverine) if not that'd be great!

I know your a comic book guy but can you please do an unbiased video on how fast current goku is. It would be amazing if you did. Keep up the good work btw

do the Andrew Garfield Spider- Man and the Hulk top strength

What about that giant wall in spider man 3

Great video but what about the scene towards the end where Spider-Man was holding up the side of a building?

One of the most impressive factors of any of these depictions of Spider-Man in the film's is the fact that Spider-Man is this strong without doing any kind of training at all to be better so that's not even close to what their actual maximum could be. Hell, they probably may not actually have a maximum limitation on how strong any of them could get.

how strong is DCEU Batman?

Do you only do comics? Because you should do "How fast is Dash?" and "How Strong is Mr. Incredible?" from the *The Incredibles*!

Love the video, did everything right except you forgot to plug in the people in the train and cart, which could at most triple the newtons that spiderman had to use to stop both the train and cart

That train fight scene was everything

But the black suit made him stronger. That was not his normal strength

could you do wolverine next ??

I hate that when people do these they never attempt to calculate or even factor in what improvement/ effect that andrenaline would have on spidermans abilities.

1:39 LMFAO I thought you were gonna say Mike Tyson

Do Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man ???

How strong is batfleck?

What about the calculation of the falling wall he caught and threw away to save Maryjane at the end of Spiderman 2

I think one thing you forgot one other thing and it may prove he's the strongest spider-man out the three we've seen so far. Before the subway fight, Doc Ock and Spider-Man are fighting on a clock tower. I don't have incredible math skills but I have incredible common sense. So to put the fight in a nutshell, Spider-Man falls off the clock tower along with one of the arms for the clock. Spider-man catches the arm with his web and throws it at Doc Ock. He caught the arm and threw it (and I'm just guessing) 60 to 80 mph. To make an object go from 0 to 60 in an instant takes a lot of force. And the impact the arm made the concrete on the clock to shatter and impale the clocktower spire. Do Ock then took the arm that was thrown at him, teared it into two and threw it back to Spider-Man. And I'm guessing he threw it around the same speed or a little less. And Spider-Man just kicks them as if they were a wad of paper. And those arms are made out of iron. I may be wrong so please correct me. Thank you for reading this. :)

2:55 Is not accurate, The Symbiote Suit Makes Him Stronger!

*toby will always be the best spiderman*

Do a How "superhero" do punisher, hawkeye, daredevil, etc. are in the mcu!!!

I wish there was a video saying how many of these would be possible with the limitation of "the proportional strength of a spider"

How strong is Andrew Garfield's Spidey?

Who is the strongest spiderman between Toby, Andrew, and Tom?

so he's surprisingly in line with the comics that's pretty dope.

Well that giant metal wall he held up was being pulled in by the force of a small star essentially so wouldn't that have a lot of force? You know to add to his strength feats