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@psytrax 19 часов назад

I’m more inclined to believe Bud understands the situation being a lawyer by trade way better than Tom. Tom doesn’t understand much of anything it seems.

@noles1983 21 час назад

"Math is math" Yeah if you understand math...Tom

@SeminoleMoments 21 час назад

Bud explaining this to Tom like he’s a child lol

@nah3193 21 час назад

Tom is in fact dumber than a 5th grader

@the_blue_chicken 21 час назад

Because Tom is acting like he doesn't get it when he definitely does.

@mattcaruthers7832 20 часов назад

Tom is lame

@psytrax 19 часов назад

Tom has got to be the dumbest analyst on this panel.

@jeh58 19 часов назад

The guy w/ the Bears hat & Illinois shirt isn't very bright is he?

@patricklane2693 18 часов назад

Bud schooled Tom. Some don't like Buds directness but he was on point.

@MinisterManDan 21 час назад

This was always the most sensible resolution to this

@kevinc3751 20 часов назад

Bud is right and Tom is wrong. It’s all about money in (FSU, Clemson, ACC, ESPN) and money out (same parties but who loses what amount; and ACC and ESPN lose the most long term if FSU gets out sooner).

@jholmes3329 14 часов назад

Well money and risk assessment… acc will lose everything in worst case scenario and clemson /Fsu lose the court fees in their worst case… a win is on a scale and it favors the schools in the recent courts. 5% maybe a total victory but 60% of a victory for the schools of any kind may still be a death blow for the acc

@WilliamDeemer 17 часов назад

This might be the best short term solution for everybody involved until everybody in college football is going to be lumped into two giant conferences that resemble the NFL.

@mattcaruthers7832 19 часов назад

Tom is a fsu hater for sure , he regrets the day they added kanell and bud .

@mikehoncho9096 17 часов назад

Tom is not understanding wtf Bud is even talking about with the 5% thing and it’s painful to watch…

@kalebpost20 18 часов назад

A real meeting of the mind here. Bud knows his stuff. Tom ? . . .

@Scalper10001 19 часов назад

I don’t understand why people get so grouchy about FSU and Clemson (FSU in particular) wanting to leave the ACC to make more money and be on a financially equal playing field.

@lucasalvarez9588 17 часов назад

It comes down to an agreement that FSU & Clemson signed many years ago for the Grant of Rights.

@Scalper10001 17 часов назад

@@lucasalvarez9588 that’s fine, but things have changed since then, and the ACC hasn’t been proactive in competing vs other conferences. All contracts have to have a reasonable way of getting out of that contract. If there isn’t one, then it’s more of a hostage situation than a business contract.

@WilliamDeemer 17 часов назад

@@Scalper10001 everything you say is correct about the ACC dropping the ball. But I’m pretty sure that every university had a whole team of lawyers going over that. I’m all for teams getting out if they don’t want to be there. Just sit down and negotiate a lesser exit fee and some type of reduced penalty for getting out before the contract. I’m sure that Florida State has plenty of money if they have a spot guaranteed in the SEC or Big Ten. Hell, I’d want my team in there too. Just because things have changed recently doesn’t invalidate the contract. Just sit down and crunch numbers and find a figure you can live with and you’re free to go I guess. Whatever happens I just hope that FSU finds a place where they can be happy.

@TheWorldTurntle 15 часов назад

Didn’t see a glimpse of this kind of vitriol from the media when Texas/OU and Oregon/Washington/USC/UCLA declared their moves

@WilliamDeemer 15 часов назад

@@TheWorldTurntle well there is a key difference in the situations. Oklahoma and Texas finished out the contract they had with the big 12. Washington and Oregon not positive about this, but I imagine when the league imploded last year there wasn’t much standing in their way to leaving. Now, in this case, unfortunately everybody in the conference is locked in forever to a crappy TV deal negotiated by good old JS. Personally, as a Virginia Tech fan, I’d love for you guys to stay, but truth be told I think every school in the ACC is trying to figure out how they can get in the same neighborhood as the big 10 and, the SEC.

@letitroll610 20 часов назад

FSU needs more money to stay competitive in football, I've watched them play this year, it's going to take a LOT of money.

@jonathanmatthews5245 15 часов назад

Tom is the reason I don't watch as much. Textbook ideological possession. One reason the ACC might come to the table is because they dont have a guaranteed contract with ESPN next year. It's a math problem, not at all personal.

@jamessharkey2262 18 часов назад

Guy in top right screen just doesn’t get it. He needs a white board.

@connecticutfan 20 часов назад

After things settle down, don't forget UConn is looking for a conference!

@yomeich 16 часов назад

There is also a material chance ESPN doesn't extend the ACCN contract by Feb 2025, meaning the GoR s done by 2027 and FSU pays the equivalent of a speeding ticket to shut down the ACC. Context is huge here. $70M would get FSU and Clemson to think about it.

@jholmes3329 14 часов назад

Tom failing to understand the math is killing me…😂 If fsu and Clemson leaves, the acc is dead. If they stay then its the same

@purpleivory2 16 часов назад

I suspect that BC, Wake, and Syracuse would agree to this but there would have to be a guarantee that Clemson and FSU remain for X amount of time.

@amsportsmedia 18 часов назад

Dude in the top right is slow

@dam7467 19 часов назад

Yikes…I sure hope Tom just really hasn’t thought through the FSU/ACC power & leverage dynamics this whole time…to sound so dense not being able to follow Buds set of assumptions deduced. I mean this has been the biggest story over the last year though, so it’s kinda spooky Tom really couldn’t follow though. It was kinda entertaining though… with a little bit of cringe almost feeling sorry for Tom. Love the content in general though!

@JesseDouglas456 16 часов назад

Good lord Tom, just admit you don't understand. So confidently wrong about everything lol

@damosuzuki4125 20 часов назад

Doing a rough calculation of expected value, The ACC would start losing money a year after FSU and Clemson leave even with a buyout. That is why they are doing this. The GOR is reduced from 12 to 6 years those six years of added revenue keep them afloat for a little while. FSU/Clem could say three years and the ACC would probably take it.

@jiknudson 14 часов назад

Big fan of the podcast, but this is one of the worst discussions you’ve ever held. It’s perfectly obvious that FSU would settle for a sizable increase that allows them to remain within spending distance of the SEC and Big Ten teams. Instead, we got almost 20 minutes of discussion about the chances of FSU being able to leave the ACC for free and what the sides’ bargaining positions would be based on that. Danny was actually the voice of reason as he alluded to the fact that if FSU gets up to around 65 million per year with the ACC, FSU will take that, particularly if the deal with the ACC ends when the Big Ten and SEC deals go to market.

@princebowie9950 15 часов назад

Tom sounded....not smart. Ugh

@tatafreeman1 18 часов назад

I guarantee a lot of those viewers were there to watch them get drug up and down the field😂

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

Its wild a winless fsu is still a top 10 viewership program!

@boweevil8390 21 час назад

Go Clemson. Please make a mud puddle out of the NC State Wolfpack Saturday.

@seminoldschool7032 Минуту назад

Wow…it’s nice to see Bud actually stand up to Tom for once. Usually he just immediately cowers anyone Tom says something stupid & tells Bud to shut up

@ColoredHacks 9 часов назад

Florida State has a better chance of making a bowl game then winning this lawsuit 😂 Why would the ACC schools give them more money?

@davidframe1613 18 часов назад

ACC has to keep Florida State and Clemson to be relevant. I would also suggest adding Kansas TCU West Virginia and UConn to the ACC. Would be a very productive move. But the question is can they get the money??

@WilliamDeemer 17 часов назад

You know your football for sure. I’ve always thought that instead of sitting on its ass the ACC brass should be going after some other teams like West Virginia and TCU. No more expansion in basketball or for basketball to appease the North Carolina schools. I like that you think proactively.

@drewperry69 20 часов назад

Why would teams like Louisville, NC State, and VT who allegedly have a home in the Big 12 take this deal? I just don’t see this working out unless ESPN agrees to pay FSU and Clemson more to keep this together

@arronfrazier7873 19 часов назад

ESPN/ABC has the SEC. They are putting all their eggs in that basket! Why do I say that? If they want the ACC so bad, they would have opted into that 10 year extension in 2021. The ACC commissioners and higher ups agreed to extend the opt in date til 2025. Clemson, FSU, Miami and others would have never agreed to extend the opt in til 2025 for 10 more years.

@tatafreeman1 18 часов назад

Like how is UNC the biggest “brand” in the ACC, but may not be in the “takers”?

@WilliamDeemer 17 часов назад

Because they’re a national university like Texas or Michigan. Granted they suck in football, but they are one of the best basketball schools in the country and they have the academics and infrastructure that conferences as well as that coveted new TV market. Hell I’ve even heard that university of Virginia would be a prime target for the same reason. It’s a hell of a note that two of the worst football schools in the conference would be the most appealing to the big 10 or the SEC. Go figure.

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

They arent for tv add revenue which is what all these contracts are based on….

@heartbreak25 10 часов назад

FSU and Clemson submitted this proposal to the ACC and not the other way around. That changes the narrative on leverage.

@nole74 4 часа назад

Leverage could come from the ESPN deal if ESPN does not want to lock in without knowing who will be in the conference

@stischer47 21 час назад

At present, the ACC should pay FSU to leave, but who would take them? Sunbelt? Naw, not even them.

@ivanolivares257 19 часов назад

🤣

@martinrosario4018 18 часов назад

I’m convinced they were banking on running it back like last year to continue to have leverage but now that they are crap they have no leverage😂😂😂

@langstondah7350 17 часов назад

Please go back to sleep. Just stick to watching the games while you drool. SEC FANS= MOUTH BREATHERS FBA/B1

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

@@martinrosario4018lol clueless. Even winless fsu brings in the most views and $$$$$ 😂🤡🤦🏼‍♂️

@martinrosario4018 9 часов назад

@@SurferRC well yeah because people love seeing a crap show especially after the way FSU acted in the off-season lol

@chadreinhardt8069 15 часов назад

Tom no math good.

@susanmoss7938 19 часов назад

the odds that FSU and Clemson don't get into the SEC and the Big 10 have also increased. hope they enjoy the Big 12

@langstondah7350 17 часов назад

Don't get mad because your program is trash! 😅😅😅😅😅😅 FBA/B1

@fuadb4910 19 часов назад

Is Tom playing dumb or messing with bud

@Big_homielander 21 час назад

Isn't this what broke the Big12?

@ivanolivares257 19 часов назад

Florida state and clemson should leave to Big 10, Big 12 or sec. To make more chaos in 2026. 🤣

@WilliamDeemer 17 часов назад

Has there been any invitations or even backroom discussions about that? Given the state of college football I would not assume that you have a spot in either conference.

@leroybrown-coco 18 часов назад

Do that then Miami will want more money. If you make things lopsided then this is just the start.

@TheWorldTurntle 14 часов назад

Programs like Miami and UNC would also benefit from an unequal revenue sharing model…

@amac701 13 часов назад

Bud is the ultimate spin master trying to turn this abomination into an fsu victory. FSU proposed this to the ACC because they don't have a landing spot in the sec or Big 10.

@williamsheen837 13 часов назад

ESPN wants this deal and is forcing the ACCs hand

@ivanolivares257 19 часов назад

Can someone tell pac 2 Stanford isnt trading Duke, notre dame etc.....for boise state, or colorado state.......to go back to pac 2

@jfigfsu Час назад

tough pod segment, tom. tighten up and get it together....

@Iron_Dad_Motors Час назад

Tom’s mathematical literacy is non-existent.

@siva_archive6368 21 час назад

Tom is silly

@edwardhughes9024 21 час назад

Why would the ACC agree to not only give Clemson and Florida state more money and shorten the period of the grant of rights. They wouldn't. There is O chance this happens.

@haileyk4383 21 час назад

Another framing is if court proceedings are trending positively for FSU in Florida, why would ESPN risk having all GOR agreements invalidated by a judge?

@arronfrazier7873 19 часов назад

@@haileyk4383 ESPN hasn't opted into the 10 extension that was supposed to be opted in or out in 2021 but the ACC official extended to 2025 without a vote by the schools. You really believe, FSU, Clemson, Miami and others who want to win in CFB would have voted to extend to 2025! Nope! Sign in 2021 or the tv rights end in 2026!

@WilliamDeemer 17 часов назад

I don’t think it’s simply about giving Clemson or Florida State more money. There’s certain amounts that every school will contribute to a pool that will be distributed based on TV ratings.

@TheWorldTurntle 15 часов назад

Did you… watch the video? Bud lays it out pretty clearly because Tom forced him to. The main goal of the ACC right now is to keep the current structure together for as long as possible. FSU/Clemson finding a way out whether it’s for $0 or a significantly reduced buyout from the originally proposed 570 million spells the end for the conference as that’s almost 40% of your viewership and other valuable brands would look to jump ship as well. The fact that they were open to discuss an unequal revenue sharing plan with FSU/Clemson when the ACC previously told them to kick rocks shows that the conference isn’t as confident about the legal situation as they were previously. FSU/Clemson have gained leverage

@WilliamDeemer 15 часов назад

@@TheWorldTurntle I did watch, but probably was only halfway paying attention. So there’s not gonna be a pool of money contributed by every team in the league that will be then redistributed to the top schools who bring in the TV numbers? Or at least that’s the proposal as I thought they were discussing it.

@ronaldburkins-lv6xk 18 часов назад

Does the ACC really want to keep FSU now that “Miami’s back”??

@WilliamDeemer 17 часов назад

OK, can we wait till the season is over before we anoint Miami the same team of the 80s and 90s? Heard this so many times over the last two decades that it gives me a headache.

@ronaldburkins-lv6xk 17 часов назад

@@WilliamDeemer my bad, my sarcasm didn’t translate well. Miami is still the only ACC team to not win the conference championship. They are nothing but a one hit wonder until they show the us that they can win the conference championship multiple times. They may have bought their way into a conference championship (that still remains to be seen), but they will not be “back” until they can rule the conference like FSU and Clemson did for many years.

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

Fsu at 0-3 still gets millions more views than miami at 3-0! So yes they still need fsu more than any school…

@fortuitusbounce 30 минут назад

*whispers* guys, is tom "regarded"?

@nicholasf6793 21 час назад

To understand why the other ACC schools might take this deal, think about it in terms of insurance. Assuming there is a 5% chance the conference dies, how much would a school like Wake be willing to insure they don't take a 80% hit to revenue. Using last year's numbers ($44 mill/school), the other teams could have each made $38 million and agreed to pay FSU and Clemson $80 mill each. Obviously a ratings based system changes the expected cut to each school, but the lower ratings schools are at the highest risk if the ACC blows up. People insure against many things that are a lower percentage than 5%. The point is that the lawsuit has moved from insuring against a plane crash to insuring against a hospital stay happening in the next year, and enough schools would be willing to at least negotiate at those percentages. P.S. Hope FSU and Clemson never win again. Hail to Pitt!

@anthonyburke3659 15 часов назад

Lol the excuses Miami is in the same conference as FSU and Clemson and they recruit with the Georgia's and OSU' of the world

@goatiestgoat12 15 часов назад

Miami is a private school, and has loads of $$$, NIL is like 20 mil annually, FSU NIL is like 12 Mil!! Thats a big Difference, that being said, FSU has a top 10 NIL, and have done horrible with recruiting!!

@jrbar 16 часов назад

people hate watching fsu

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

But they all watch! Even winless fsu is still a top 10 viewership draw in the known universe

@Guthbox 3 часа назад

I’d be so embarrassed if I was Tom that this got posted as its own video… some of the dumbest commentary I’ve seen on the subject. Bud had to talk to him like he was a child😂

@omicroniii4907 11 часов назад

Tom is being intentionally obtuse because FSU fans hurt his feelings on Twitter.

@cfbtalk07 13 часов назад

Tom so tired of buds bullshit. God please Tom go start another pod so I can stop listening to bud

@alpacalips3452 44 минуты назад

no one wants a FSU that cant beat memphis or a dabo lead clemson team who wont use the portal xD lol good luck guys

@Herb.streitWasRight 19 часов назад

It's fascinating to see the familiar delusion among FSU fans that convinced them the team, which was thoroughly beaten in the '23 Orange Bowl, would excel this year. It seems some of you never seem to grasp the lesson. 😂

@kkadera 19 часов назад

It was apparent to everyone else that JordanTravis was providing ALL the magic.

@langstondah7350 17 часов назад

God, SEC fans are stupid... FBA/B1

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

@@kkaderaexcept they were 3-0 without him 😂🤡🤦🏼‍♂️

@Herb.streitWasRight 5 часов назад

@@SurferRC Norvel is 2-11 without JT 😂🫵🏼🤡🫵🏼🤡

@kkadera 3 часа назад

@@SurferRC Lol you wanna pretend those wins looked anything like the same team. Beating miamis 3rd string qb by 3pts. That was a skin-of-your-teeth season-save. Commendable, but it’s WHY there was no playoff spot. Not by any measure the same team. Keep your clown emoji for your own squad this year, you need it.

@davidwilliams4498 2 часа назад

Florida st an Clemeon not good at all this year. Do they think they could roll in sec or big 12. Not gonna hear much about acc teams leaving this season. Other then miami there isnt another major bowl or CFP team this acc season Miami might stumble an not finish top 12.. since florida st nightmare 0 an 3 start i havent heard a single word anywhere now that they leaving acc

@luckuania8723 21 час назад

Florida State fans are insanely delusional 🤦

@teddillon7739 20 часов назад

Delusional about what? Certain school draw eyes win or lose. Teams have tough seasons. If FSU and Clemson are bad in the same season,then even less people are watching the ACC,which exposes the ACC and proves FSU and Clemson correct. ACC should have been protecting it's top brands all along. That is crystal clear. The SEC and the B1G did just that and it paid off in spades.

@langstondah7350 17 часов назад

Another fan of a trash program... FBA/B1

@luckuania8723 16 часов назад

@@langstondah7350 tbh I'm not much of a fan of any particular college team. But FSU is 0-3 😂

@langstondah7350 16 часов назад

@@luckuania8723 And? We are also a blue blood program that went undefeated last year...what's your point? Again, yiure a fan of a trash program! Just admit it! 😆 FBA/B1

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

@@luckuania8723fsu still brings the most $$$ to the acc even at 0-3! Thats what elite schools do…

@enriquecomas933 18 часов назад

Miami can throw a wrench in this also escape because they push the brand the farthest out of the 3. Especially if they are winning. If a ratings pot is developed, it will 100% benefit those top 4 (ND as well). I’m all for it, idk why Tom is lost here. Bud is 100% correct on why it came up again, the leverage is that the ACC knows they are the next Power 4 to be shut down.

@donnierearden8334 15 часов назад

So you’re saying that FSU needs more money to beat Memphis & being competitive to other G5 schools … The only reason FSU is currently getting the ratings now is everyone is laughing at what of a joke program FSU has become & eventually the viewership goes away once FSU is only winning 2 to 4 games a year consistently

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

🤡😂

@TyListoe 21 час назад

I think FSU and Clemson have nowhere to go but the XII

@langstondah7350 17 часов назад

If think FSU doesn't have a handshake deal with the BIG then you're not very bright. SMDH FBA/B1

@MegaFrankgarcia 18 часов назад

No Thanks, they can go

@themrjim1953 19 часов назад

they should pay florida state to leave

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

Yes please!

@harryhoesch3793 17 часов назад

Who wants FSU, they suck'

@SurferRC 13 часов назад

At 0-3 fsu us still a top 10 money bringer in the known college football universe

@blindlemonjello 13 часов назад

11:34 because the Big 10 doesn't want FSU and the SEC doesn't need FSU.

@Okefenokee_Nole 10 часов назад

If Clemson and FSU are so starved of funding by the ACC to the point of not being competitive with B1G and SEC programs, they become irrelevant (or at least much less relevant). If the ACC doesn’t have football programs that can compete with the B1G and SEC, it essentially becomes the Big East, AAC, “new” PAC, etc. and its next TV contract will be a fraction of its current deal that paid each school $45 million in 2023. ESPN has likely told the conference as much. It’s in every other ACC school’s best interest to be paid 50% of what Clemson and FSU are so the conference has relevant football programs, because it’s still 400% more than they would get if Clemson and FSU were not in the conference.

@blindlemonjello 13 часов назад

14:16 Conference, there is no league