You McCartney bass people are all the same, every single baseline is underrated , what’s next to you gonna say his baseline on Julia is so underrated? By the way the baseline on kite is a great but standard rock baseline any bass player could do the exact same thing.
@@jwt208 Julia? Lmao. I’m not gonna say every one of Paul’s basslines were a gift from the heavens but I acknowledge that he’s able to give a song the bassline it needs. My favorite bass parts from Paul are Mr. Kite, Rain and Hey Bulldog. It may be true that bass players could play Mr. Kite but Since every bass player has their own particular fingerprint, I don’t think they would have composed it with the same bounciness and fills that Paul did. If Flea, Bootsy Collins or Jack Bruce had played on Mr. Kite instead, it wouldn’t be the same. As a matter of fact, Jack Bruce’s bassline on World of Pain is one that is comparable to Mr. Kite given that it’s not only providing rhythm but also melody. But likewise, if Paul played on World of Pain, it just wouldn’t have the same feel.
When I was a child, instead of stories about knights and monsters etc, my dad would sometimes tell me stories of how the Beatles made their music and albums. I liked the Beatles even at a young age, so it was enjoyable to hear about them even then, but it's cool to hear some of these stories again after so long, like "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" (that was one of my favorites as a child, along with the story of how they came up with/ made "A Day in the Life", or "She Said She Said").
Imagine working at an anique shop and you hear the bell from the door ringing and when you look up its 𝙅𝙤𝙝𝙣 𝙇𝙚𝙣𝙣𝙤𝙣 and he proceeds to purchase only a circus poster
George Martin's production on Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite was and still is fantastic, but Giles Martin's remix is on a whole different level. I felt like I was listening to that song for the first time again.
I've been lucky to see John's poster in the Liverpool Museum... as well as a few other Pablo Fanque posters in my own home city of Sheffield to celebrate the Circus 250 events... where Pablo Fanque's (William Darby b Norwich 1810) last circus performance was before he retired from the circus business and settle down with his wife Susannah, from Sheffield. I'm sure Mr. Darby would be smiling down onto John's cloud in heaven knowing it was John's doing that made him culturally relevant today. William Darby did benefits for retiring circus acts all the time (it was one of his trademarks)... in the Circus 250 I saw one that read "For the Benefit of Bowman", and I was elated to see the Mr Kite one about a few months later as this year started... I also remember reading at Circus 250 that Pablo Fanque (William Darby) was the P.T Barnum of the UK (even before Barnum made it big), he was quite the celebrity of his time. also as a side note I saw John's work in progress for "Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite" in the Liverpool Museum, and the lyrics "The Celebrated Mr. K performs his feat on Saturday" were originally going to be "performing twice on Saturday".
@@strawberryfields9762 Enchanted by Lennon's voice to say the least. My mum thought I was insane when I played it repeatedly on our turntable back in the day, But I felt like Alice in Wonderland
“McCartney actually wrote this with John”... McCartney was asked specifically about this song in reference to its sole authorship by John in 1977 and he didn’t challenge it at the time. In 2013 he has this story about him and John writing this together. Remember he has claimed to have completely written the melody to “In My Life”. Like John would just hand over the lyrics to Paul and let Paul write the music to such a personal song... That’s highly suspect in and of itself... But he has been shown to be wrong about In My Life. Advanced Bags-Of-Words modeling and other statistical analysis has shown that Paul had no substantial authorship Of In My Life. I could see how Mr. Kite could be a collaboration but I also see how it is most likely “All Lennon”. It does have more “wider intervals” than most of Lennon’s songs but he has on occasion used wider intervals on songs known and confirmed by both to be Lennon songs. Lennon tends to have less deviation and wider intervals than McCartney. But both men make good use of “accidentals”. And the leaps and intervals in Mr. Kite are not huge... Not as noticeable as in a song like Michelle where the intervals are all over the place. This is probably why Lennon’s songs have a more “conversational” tone than McCartney’s. Incidentally Lennon wrote a greater percentage of Beatle’s songs than McCartney... By a wide margin... I love both writers equally but one should understand that human testimony is highly suspect... For example Lennon has given Paul some credit for In My Life... But he was most likely mistaken in that memory. “The Word” is generally attributed to John but the above mentioned analysis shows that it’s a 100% McCartney composition. So the analysis cuts both ways.
The bag of words hasn't been verified to be true or accurate for any other song. Statistics require some sort of verifiable process and must be proven to be accurate for many other occurrences not just one song. How has the study been independently verified to be accurate by other means other than itself? Otherwise in my life is very clearly entirely a Paul McCartney melody. The repeated octave rhyming and lyric beats are only found in his songs. And the chord progression is almost identical to obla di obla da with the D and fm transposed with each other
@@eziospaghettiauditore8369 sorry but Paul looses all credibility when he contradicts himself as in: In 1977, when shown a list of songs Lennon claimed writing on (including "Mr. Kite"), McCartney disputed only "In My Life".In his 1997 memoir, he claimed to have also co-written "Mr. Kite". The older McCartney got (and of course AFTER John died) the more he claimed to write. Sad
The analysis of such things should be taken with a pinch of salt. They started actually writing songs that sounded like the others songs. Lennon never wrote spectacular melodies but "In my Life" is one. It's sounds very McCartneyesque. .
John Beasley no he doesn't, Actually John was really harsh on many of Mccartney songs during the beatles and post beatles era. Paul on the other hand talks wonders about him (he even loves the song "beautiful boy") I'm sorry sir but you just sounded like a boring john fan boy. By the way i do know why john used to trash talk Paul in the 70s. that happened because he released his solo work first. Not waiting for Lennon to release his own (he had informed the other 3 beatles he had a solo project with Yoko, and Paul decided to release his work before John's.
John Beasley nope. He wanted to do that change to songs he wrote alone or was the primary composer behind. (lennon is credited in Maxwell's silver hammer as well as carry that weight even though he isn't present in the tracks) in those songs he wanted to make that change. And Yoko refused that.
John Beasley so im asuming you do believe that silly legend of paul being death oh so tell me you also believe that the earth is flat? or that the man never reached the moon? perhaps the theory of the reptillian people convinces you too?
John & Paul collaborated on each other’s songs throughout the time the Beatles were together. “For the Benefit of Mr. Kite” is not unusual that Paul helped in creating it. On the same album (Sgt Pepper), “A Day in the Life” is a clear example of them working together. Later songs like “I’ve got a Feeling” show Paul & John continuing their collaboration. There are debates about how much each person did on a song such as “Eleanor Rigby” where John said he wrote most of the lyrics & Paul claims John only wrote half a line. But even w/ “Rigby”, it shows Paul & John collaborating. * Still the general rule applies for who was the primary writer of a John or Paul song where they are the main singers. Who the dominant singer is tells if it is primarily a John or Paul song. John sings “Mr. Kite” so it mainly comes from him. (This rule of course doesn’t apply to songs written for Ringo & in one case for George).
Pablo Fanque's Circus Royal Town-Meadows, Rochdale Grandest Night of the Season! And positively the LAST NIGHT BUT THREE! Being for the BENEFIT OF MR KITE, (late of Wells's Circus) and Mr J. HENDERSON, the celebrated somerset thrower! Wire dancer, vaulter, rider, etc. On TUESDAY Evening, February 14, 1843. Messrs. Kite & Henderson, in announcing the following Entertainment, assure the Public that this Night's Production will be one of the most Splendid ever produced in this Town, having been some days in preparation. Mr Kite will, for this Night only, introduce the celebrated HORSE, ZANTHUS! Well known to be one of the best Broke Horses IN THE WORLD!!! Mr Henderson will undertake the arduous Task of THROWING TWENTY ONE SOMERSETS on the solid ground. Mr Kite will appear, for the first time this season, On the Tight Rope, When Two Gentlemen Amateurs of this Town will perform with him. Mr Henderson will, for the first time in Rochdale, introduce his extraordinary TRAMPOLINE LEAPS and SOMERSETS! Over Men & Horses, through Hoops, over Garters, and lastly, through a Hogshead of REAL FIRE! In this branch of the profession Mr H. challenges THE WORLD!
Look at Lennon's book from 1965 " A Spaniard in the works" as an example. That is how somersaults became Somersets, typical Lennon word play. The antique shop in Sevenoaks is no longer there.
Mr. Hollyhobs would you consider making a video on Geoff Emerick? He was instrumental in crafting that unique experimental sound in songs like Tomorrow never knows.
Because he did help with them judging by how specific he is with the construction of the song Also John was the one who claimed to write 70% of Eleanor Rigby even when everyone else in the studio said he had little to no involvement so he's the one to not be trusted here
AFTER JOHN DIED.... Paul trying to market and boost his legacy at all Costs 🤦🏽♂️ Sad that Paul went that route but that’s his issue, who cares, this could only come from the mind of John Lennon anyway
@@hw343434 True. Both had such contrasting styles, (especially after 1964), it shouldn't really be all that difficult to figure out the brain behind certain songs.
Paul is in a position to get away with such claims now. How clever - almost as clever as secretly reworking his bass lines after the band had left the studio.
Rochdale is my home town and it was there in 1843 that Pablo Fanque's fair came and the poster is based on that. It was held on Town Meadows in Rochdale which has now been built on. Currently the main police station in Rochdale stands on the site and I think the site has been built on for decades now, possibly even before the end of the 19th century.
First time i heard this song,it weren't Beatles,i knew cover version from Yugoslav/Serbian band ELEKTRIČNI ORGAZAM. It's on their '83 album,check it out,it's good
The song has always mesmerized me. In an era of love songs here was something totally unique. I have a copy of the poster in my project studio - my one and only nod to the Beatles. It's great when guests make the connection.
Paul does not have a finger on this song. John wrote it entirely. In 1977 a reporter showed Paul a list of songs that John claimed he wrote in its entirety. The only song that Paul took issue was In My Life. So, at that time he admitted that John wrote it. Now, after John passed away he started this crap that he wrote the song with John. John was a big JERK but he was brutally sincere. So, I believe John. Paul has an ego greater than the universe. One of these days he is going to take credit for Strawberry Fields.
I love Paul's works and his great melodic genius, but at the same time I'm a annoyed by how undervalued John’s talent is, creator of true masterpieces and gifted with an incredible abstract imagination. Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite is a real gem and one of the perfect examples of Lennon's ability to put fresh ideas on paper and George Martin's to align with those concepts and help John materialize those ideas. This is a John song. Period.
I SO wish I had the extra money to help you out. I am an unpaid pastor and I am disabled. (Two strokes will do that). Love this channel! Best one on RU-vid regarding the Beatle!!!!
Can I just say I LOVE this song? And it’s amazing after ripping the bong lol. I remember the first time I heard this song, I was 13 years old and I was in the back of my parents minivan, on Christmas Day 2002, after it had snowed a foot overnight, and of course they were playing the Beatles on the radio since it was Christmas! And For The Benefit of Mister Kite played. Every time I hear the deranged circus music at the end, I’m reminded of that Christmas being in the back of the van 😂
and what would you call the rest? TRUTH is I know how there were constant creative battles between them! and still it's a brilliant song ENJOY BROTHER!
It’s not really a collaboration. McCartney didn’t claim to have written any of it when asked in 1977 when John was still alive. Later in 1997 he “changed his mind” and claimed to have co-written it 🤔
What a phantasic song:)) Wer sonst hatte sich ( in der MusikWelt) sowas ausgedacht, nachdem die Vielfalt von Spielereien mit Noten eher abgeebbt war. Sehr gelungen und immer wieder mal schön zu hören, so finde ich. Sogar über Jahrzehnte 😀
Another great video! It’s an odd song, compared to other Beatles music, and it definitely transports me away when I let it. I’ve never smelled the sawdust before, though I may now lol.
I've always had the thought of John writing The Being for Mr Kite (reprise). If I could talk to John today my question would be ....What ever happen to that guy Mr Kite who had the big show ?? It would have the same melody but just have a different story. The song would answer the question. it would have the same circus like atmosphere just different lyrics. Such as.... But Mr Kite is older now and the summersets have taken the toll poor Mr K.
I always loved that poster. I noticed you also have it. You know that movie “Yesterday?” The moment I saw the trailer, I had to wonder if you gave them the idea.
Thumbs up if you want me to try to figure out (with lots of help from my friends) WHICH fairground organ and street organ records were dubbed to tape, chopped, played backwards etc as a sound-effect on this track. Some of the clips are so short that so am not sure we’ll be able to ID them, but the longer ones, we might recognize.
As an example, I already hear, in one of the longer and louder clips, a large concert or street organ with bourdon celeste on the melody and also a loud glockenspiel, probably with metal hammers. I am first reminded of the famous 75-key Verbeeck street organ “De Arabier” and second of the large 112-key Carl Frei concert organ (rebuilt from a Mortier dance organ) at Thursday’s Museum.
I bought the reproduction poster. and I like the way you put in across the universe footage.. me thinks the beatles would be no where as big without george martin. (in my life hint)
John and Paul were the creators. Martin was essentially just an engineer who knew a bit about music. The Beatles could easily have been as great without him. Just listen to songs like "Yes it is" and "This Boy". Totally original and unique.
Some people are mad that Paul said- in some way- that he contributed to "Mr.Kite". I want to point out that this video gives us a snippet of Paul's words. Perhaps they are taken a little out of context. Of course this song is John's. Half the time Paul had to go to John's house to get him out of bed to get John to produce anything. But, I believe Paul if he says he contributed to it. Probably something small, like "...of course, Henry the Horse dances the waltz." That sounds like Paul to me. Plus I doubt John knew what a waltz was. LOL.
Paul has no reason to seek partial credit for this song if he had not, indeed, assisted in its creation....he already was given dual Lennon/McCarthy song credit, so no royalties at stak. He has an absolute trove of other songs, so no ego thing....your synopsis on how things went down is likely spot on.
In 1977, when shown a list of songs Lennon claimed writing on (including "Mr. Kite"), McCartney disputed only "In My Life". In his 1997 memoir, he claimed to have also co-written "Mr. Kite". These are the facts of Paul seeking more writing credit AFTER John died, which is what he’s been doing to try to boost his legacy. Otherwise why would he contradict himself and only take credit for songs AFTER John died? To say John wouldn’t know what a waltz was is beyond ignorant. John was the most well read of all the Beatles, the only author in the band.
The older McCartney got (and of course AFTER John died) the more songs he claimed to have written. Sad Sorry but Paul looses all credibility when he contradicts himself as in: In 1977, when shown a list of songs Lennon claimed sole writing on (including "Mr. Kite"), McCartney disputed only "In My Life" as being a co-writer which is also very questionable. however In his 1997 memoir, he claimed to have also co-written "Mr. Kite".” 🤦🏽♂️
this song is on the album of beatles songs with harmonica played by johnny does anybody know if there's any harmonica on this I wouldn't know it if I saw it I can't can't tell what's on it it's got everything
Wait, For the Benifit of Mr. Kite was on Sgt. Peppers and Strawberry Fields was on Magical Mystery Tour and Sgt. Peppers came before Strawberry Fields?…
Point to respect Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite sounds very similar and has the same chord structure as It's Only Love on the side 2 of Help album. John hated the lyrics of It's Only Love. Another song the Beatles never did in concert.
Disagree about needing the big arrangement, although it's magnificently circusy. This song sounds great on acoustic guitar. Awesome series of chords. I believe Paul that he helped on this song. It's pretty unlikely Lennon would have ever come up with these chords, but Paul was really good on the interesting chord progressions, key changes, etc. And the chords include awesome runs in the bass. Who played bass? Paul.
Interesting chord progressions are something John was a MASTER at. If you try to play some of his songs like “I am the Walrus”, “#9 Dream”, “Real Love”, “Julia”, “Across the Universe” and countless others... you would know John is the master of unique chord progressions. Paul originally did NOT dispute it was entirely a John song in 1977, then “changed his mind” in 1997 🤔 Great Bass Line by Paul though
You did'nt really explained how they made the song. you explained quite a lot of the songwriting but that's it. you never explained (for example) how they came up with such unusual melodies and instruments and you didn't mentioned the tapes from the Emi Arcives that were used and how geoff emerick was involved. I learned a bit about the song from this video, but i din't learned how it was made.
Of course Paul does those type of things . I've gone to some of his concerts and he is hesitant to mention John's impact. Even when talking about John in any interview he never gives John full credit he always in the end centers around himself. The only time I heard him be somewhat honest is when he was interviewed by Sean. He is almost never present at John's tribute specials. He treated Harrison the same way. Telling George how to play his lead part and I think this is why George wrote while my guitar gently weeps. Listen to his song junk and how he is really talking about Yoko. I love Paul but sometimes he is too obsessed with his legacy. In one of Beatle's tribute special Ringo was with Paul on stage and Ringo had to remind us when he said. It will always be John Paul George and ringo
The issue I have is that John is no longer here to elaborate his story how he was inspired in writing "For the Benefit if Mr. Kite". Wait a minute, who sang the song? How much does Paul claim that he collaborated in writing the song? Did he sing the song at all? It was mot available song. John Lennon was written all over this. Sometimes I do question Paul's account. He also tried to claim that he had a hand innth3 song "In My Life". I think Paul should leave "Yesterday" behind and just "Let it Be" or risk being "A Fool on the Hill". After all, the "Nowhere Man" is no longer here.
I can never tell if Paul constantly misremembers contributing to songs he didn't contribute to, or if John wasn't just snubbing Paul when he would claim full artistic ownership of songs post-Beatles breakup!
It's funny I think how Paul is virtually turning many conceptions on their heads ever since John died. Seemingly he's been taking credit for many songs Lennon appears to have written. What's the truth really?
I think it's slightly odd how McCartney often claims to have co-written songs that have always been attributed to being purely Lennon. Didn't he claim in the Anthology book to have helped John on I Am The Walrus? I seriously have my doubts about that one. That song was 100% Lennon. It reeks of him! I wonder if he would have made such outrageous claims had John still been with us? I very much doubt it.
McCartney has engaged in a great deal of revisionist history since Lennon died and Lennon can't refute it. In my opinion you're wrong about McCartney being honest and that he can be trusted about who wrote what. In an interview in 1977, McCartney was shown a list of songs that Lennon had previously addressed in an interview about who wrote what. McCartney took issue with only one song. I'm not sure, but I think it might've been Ticket To Ride. Since Lennon's death, McCartney has revised his opinions about many songs. McCartney has always been more concerned with his image than Lennin was and how he's perceived in the public eye. Possibly revising songwriting credits wouldn't be the first time Paul publicly stabbed John in the back. I guess it would have been 1969 or '70 when John told Paul he was leaving the Beatles. Allen Klein asked John not to announce it yet. John agreed. Lennon said: "When I got back [from Toronto] there were a few meetings and Allen said, ‘Cool it,’ ’cause there was a lot to do [with The Beatles] business-wise, and it wouldn’t have been suitable at the time. Then we were discussing something in the office with Paul and Paul was saying to do something, and I kept saying, ‘No, no, no’ to everything he said. So it came to a point that I had to say something. So I said, ‘The group’s over, I’m leaving.’ Allen was there, and he was saying, ‘Don’t tell.’ He didn’t want me to tell Paul even. But I couldn’t help it, I couldn’t stop it, it came out. And Paul and Allen said they were glad that I wasn’t going to announce it like I was going to make an event out of it. I don’t know whether Paul said, ‘Don’t tell anybody,’ but he was damn pleased that I wasn’t. He said, ‘Oh well, that means nothing really happened if you’re not going to say anything.’ So that’s what happened." - John Lennon Then, Paul publicly announced he was leaving the Beatles. McCartney was happy Lennon was not going to announce he was leaving the Beatles, then McCartney announced he was leaving the Beatles. Underhanded. Again, revising songwriting credits wasn't the first time Paul publicly stabbed John in the back. That said, McCartney's talent as a musician and songwriter, both within the Beatles and as a solo artist has few rivals, with Lennon being the most obvious. Writing solo or in collaboration with Lennon, McCartney is arguably the greatest songwriter of all time. The other who I personally would argue for is Lennon, but that's an argument which will never be settled. They were both the best ever in my opinion. I'm just happy they met and changed the world.
it's not the song of the one who wrote it. it's the song of who composed it ;) most people think "he wrote the lyrics, he made the song" but thats wrong. the lyrics are not the complete song. if you want to make music with talent only for good lyrics and with no talent for composing and creating a good melody you should make folk or something like Bob Dylan.
