How the British Empire Exported Homophobia | Empires of Dirt 

Your videos have been utterly disappointing esp the Empire dirt series. I wish history was black and white as Vice make it out to be. Your portaryal of history is very "naive", the likes of which is expected from an elementary schooler. Let's blame it all on (the white men) Britain like it was all peaceful and paradise before their arrival.

...and China exports fentanyl to USA.

how about a program on how China got America hooked on fentenyl?

@Ski Bum vice is a joke

@@shinobi650 well, you have to blame it on the white men lol.

lslamic Iaws of prophet Mohammad 1400 years ago...

Considering that the laws were verbatim taken from British law... it has less to do with religion than you think. PS, South Asia has a traditional 3rd gender, as to many other cultures throughout the world: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)

@@mjstecyk wiki resource.. lol that’s a good one 🤣

@@mjstecyk you getting historical indian culture confused with Islam. Islam is profoundly homophobic.

@@mg305 Yet Arab culture has had a 3rd gender since pre-Islamic times: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhannathun

I have autism, and I would say they are more autistic than me.

@@hgfhfghfghfg755 you sir are not autistic, vice clearly is

@@petu2123 OMG, YOUR RIGHT. My autism just disappears.

@@hgfhfghfghfg755 as just another guy from discord and RU-vid I can assure you you are not autistic vice is just peak *stoopid!*

peak buzzfeed lmao

@Adita Saha [X-C] but were their Gay Pride Parades in the Mughal Empire?

Same-sex attraction in many ancient cultures was seen as just part of general _desire._ Sexuality described as part of one’s _identity_ didn’t become common until the 17-18 century.

Islamabad was founded in 1960

@Adita Saha he was not fully gay. He just admitted that he found one of his boy servants attractive in his memoir. He also said that it was wrong of him to have this feeling.

@@zenaznoori3921 r/woosh

And in 10 more Muslim countries

@@austin-ug4ts Based

@@austin-ug4ts Based

I mean, I can also say Christianity is oppressive to gay people because of Evangelical Christians or Atheists are terrible due to New Atheists who had no tolerance. I can go on and do the same for every non-religious group and also for any religious group. Feminism is completely awful because of TERFs existence, etc. Do you see how ridiculous your argument is? No one thinks Saudi Arabia which follows a very extreme interpretation of verses is representative of Islam unless they are Islamophobic. Oh, look, I guess I found an Islamophobe in the wild.

Also literally I do not know why and how you watched the video and heard how Malaysia and Pakistan etc which are Muslim countries but also former British Colonies, and were therefore affected by Britain's ban on homosexuality, and still make the argument that Muslim countries are homophobic because Islam is homophobic and not because Colonialism genuinely fucked up a lot of current so-called Muslim countries. Clearly no Islamophobia present at all in your arguments.

You're not wrong, some African cultures had traditional 3rd genders. Sometimes, depending on the culture, they held positions of prestige such as religious priests or advisers, etc. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chibados en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender#Africa

Not what she said. She said that homosexuality was not illegal, and that an African king of what is today Uganda had sex with other males.

And let's not forget about the Roman Empire that accepted gay relations as very acceptable especially the armies.

@@eduluz5577 Maybe it wasn't illegal because they didn't have laws?

@@rafaelschoch84 yet homosexuals werent executed, jailed, exiled, killed, etc

She's not talking about cultural issues...she's talking about outdated laws still on the book. Your culture may not approve but it doesn't mean someone should go to prison for it unless IT'S A LAW.

@@sharongillesp so are we going to talk about gays hating thrown off roofs in the middle east

@@chasedean4032 Well obviously homophobia is rife in many cultures, but it's a fact that it was disseminated and legislated against throughout several countries which were colonised by Britain, due to Britain forcibly spreading Christianity. There are written records from colonial powers in Africa and South America about their enforcement of homophobic rules on the local communities they found. Doesn't mean Britain was the only nation to do it, but it's historical fact nonetheless.

@@sharongillesp Guess what. These former British colonies are... former British colonies, i.e., they have their own government, courts, and law-making apparatus. Look at the former British colonies of Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.

@@V.elociraptor britan doesn't run those contrys if the contrys want to get of the laws they can

You're not allowed to make this point, you're Islamophobic

*sweats profusely*

Christians: stands even more calmly

@@Bluecheese1400 lots of Europeans were

@@tortillawrapper5454 Nah Islam is way more homophobic than Christianity.

Some of the best content and extremely well done.

very cool. no one else has ever had this exact sentiment on literally every vice video.

@@CryWolfFilms so why aren’t they making content people want instead of making biased videos made to demoralise and demonise.

A news reporting organisation can do more than 2 things

@@benjamin1403 how is this meant to demoralize wtf? XDDD This video is just straight facts, nothing else. It’s informative at best, is what you can call it. If you don’t agree with something it doesn’t mean it’s wrong or „demonizing” lmao, this is some pretty basic manners and logic you should know. Vice covers many topics and they’re free to do so, since US still retains free press more or less. Apparently, there’s people that want this content since they’re publishing it. So how about you go somewhere else to throw your bigot-ass snowflake tantrums?

They gave you the idea and enforced it hard.

@@iddods2117 its actually cultural

@@jamesasira7969 The culture you inherited from the British.

😂😂😂you are actually daft, have you been to Africa? Am luhya man, you are embarrassing yourself

Yeah, a lot of laws were passed down during colonialism.

but what about

No because they would get kidnapped LGBT people are scared to talk lol

That can't do that. That would be islamaphobic. They stand up for Muslims, Like the ones in Saudi and Iran that hang gays TODAY

Judaism as well

@@JanPospisilArt you can't change what happened in the past but you can fight the injustice that is happening now.

Well done, you've caught them, they actually have an agenda! Shocking. What are you doing watching their channel, though, if your political views don't appeal to you? Or did you just come here to leave a comment?

@Martha Cohen Millions of Hindus were slain during the Mughal, Mamluk, Muslim Invasion periods, the British don't even come close to that..

@Martha Cohen The Mughals acted in self defense in Hindu land that they invaded?? Are you on crack?

I guess the Germans also acted in self defense in Poland and the Soviet Union then 😂😂

@Martha Cohen I don't know in which twisted reality you're living, but even the most basic and openly available sources tell you that your claims are complete and utter lunacy. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

why not call it 'British Empire of Dirt'? 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

@@theleshan You are talking in English and u dare say that the Empire who ruled 1/3 of the world was Am Empire of dirt??

@@zylnexxd842 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆dude. What are are you talking about? Of course that is what I mean.

other empires are inferior. Brit> everyone else.

@@zylnexxd842 kinda was But for the colonialist and the missionaries it was heaven

Best😂 @dio.dei.commenti2

They probably will do something on this- its not a bad thing to be aware of the realities of history. They already did videos on homophobia in at least 2 different countries in the Middle East.

Gandhi acted like a British agent

He did though, right?

Let me get a supply of 7up

300 years ago? Britain had colonies until just recently. Literally my father was born when my country was still a colony.

300? You know most of he colonies have been independent for 70 ish years at most right?

300 years ago? Decolonization was still happening in the 1970's lol.

thats true actually

The British Empire didn’t fall until after World War II what the hell are you talking about?

Bruh

because that's what it's about ...

@@emptyboxesandrooms but there was multiple other brutal empires, some of which not even being European

@@howie3750 Ottoman empire comes to mind.

May be it is not easy to cover up all bad thing in one video.

As an Indian, I agree on some counts, disagree on others. The British were tolerant of our religions, which most others weren't. The British gave us democracy, which most others wouldn't. And the British gave us English, which is good in an American-led world. And on the flip side, the prolific looting that the British did would not have been probably done by the others, and we would've become independent earlier

Nice Life of Brian reference

The ROMANS cannot be compared to the other European Empires , They were much more civilised

@Sigma𐱃 Civilized does not means less Brutal

@Sigma𐱃 nobody can compare the Roman empire to European colonialism. Are u seriously comparing the Empires of different time scale and different periods . There were no French philosophers In the era of imperial Rome. The Romans did much more good than bad while the colonialist much more bad than good. How about constructing trains in India as a part of the British private enterprise and guaranteeing returns to the private Investers with the help of Indian taxes with the result being a single mile of railway costing more than twice the amount that it would have cost to build the same amount in Canada . Also none of these trains were NOT meant for mass-transportation and they did not connected major towns or cities , they were just meant to further the exportation of India by transporting Her sources to the ports so that it would be transported to United Kingdom . From the ticket collector's to the driver's British personal were employed in the Railways not Indians British private enterprise with Indian public risk British controlling the technology and ensuring all of the employment generated through it is given to British personal And British railway system being constructed to help in the exploitation of India Even after of this stupid colonialist who are just white supremacist in disguise would say that India should be thankful to the British for giving us Railways. Fu*k no Railways would have been built much more efficiently and for the public interest if it was done by the native Indian rulers instead of a foreign company . Also if you justify brutality of colonialism with a + 1000 year old Empire that means if your moral believes are 1000 years in lacking (What kind of uncivilized backward and Brutish civilization would then be ) Oh we have an answer "The lands of Western Europe has always produced the most Barbaric, backward , brutish and warlike people " :- Some Byzantine chronicler

@@rebeccaanderson5626 the Romans were just as brutal as anyone in their time. The same was true of the the Europeans in their time of Empire. Of course, exceptions did exist and retrospectively it’s a damned shame that civil liberties didn’t come earlier, but issues like homophobia are not really due to the Europeans but were simply commonplace across the world. There’s a reason though that European and majority European-descended countries are now much more accepting of LGBT people and Africa and Asia are not, for the most part.

I disagree.

How exactly?

@@minmax5 I was going to take you seriously but you are a masochist

@@apuapustaja1958 How so am I a masochist? lol

I'm sorry I don't get your point due to my lack of cheese knowledge is swiss cheese good or bad anyone with a degree in cheese studies?

have you heard of a joke before? or hyperbole? I guess not, so today's your lucky day!

@@minmax5 wasn't funny

@@adrianm8212 Irrelevant, just like you

Apparently

only in the sense of them not being objectified

Because there's no white people to blame there.

@@brent89 There's no white people in this video but they still got the blame 🤣

Even if they did it, they'll probably blame whitey for it.

actually in african countries homosexuals were ignored until europeans come with christanity and arabs/muslims came with islam , abrahamic religions fucked up african native religions , people used to just ignore them , we had culture of live and let live mind your own bussiness no one cared what other do in their privacy

Literally all anti-homosexuality laws in African countries today were originally instilled by the empires who originally controlled them.

ok? and?

@@Pizza_Rat Promoting racism against white people is ok?

@@rafaelschoch84 How is it promoting racism against white people?

@@Pizza_Rat By spreading stupid lies and percistently criticizing white societies. What about islamic conquest?

@@Pizza_Rat its spread propaganda and lies

this x10000000

Yes, AND religion would be toothless at using the power of the state to arrest LGBT folks if this law didn't legitimize what they do. Yes, right-wing Anglo Christians are promoting homophobic legislation in Uganda, and right-wing Muslims appeal to religious justification, but the fact is, from Ghana to Pakistan, the precedent and groundwork has already been laid by British Imperialism. Ugandans, Ghanaians and Pakistanis feel like it is a part of their cultural fabric, and this video rightly takes it back to pre Colonial times to show No, it's not a rigid part of your history, in fact, your history is quite the opposite! This video is focusing more on debunking the idea that homosexuality is a Western import, if that makes sense?

If you learn the history, Muslim society before imperalism is accepting queer people. Ex: Ottoman Empire. So it has nothing to do with religion, more like cultural or norm that using religious teaching as excuse.

What are you doing. Have some self respect

Why would she, she’s from Singapore and lives in Britain? Its like asking you to talk about Belarus

@@RMorgan97Concentration camps for Chinese Muslims perhaps?

@@G_Flash84625 again though, why should *she* be the one to do that, plenty of reporters in the world, even plenty of reporters at vice, why target her in particular?

You realise Singapore isn't China don't you?

@John H Player LOL you're literally proving his point, you drooling brainlet.

When those "past grievances" are still impacting the present I fail to see your point.

*or someone capable of self awareness LOL

I could say the same thing about remembrance day but that doesn't fit your narrative...

They have to

or Japanese imperialism...

And the Belgian empire in the Congo. Much needed.

Im glad you got the right idea

Lol. I'm British and I'm still blaming them too if anything bad happens.

@@kjartist494 you're a woman and a lesbian. Your views are invalid

@@kjartist494 good sign of British citizenship

Like most non-white leftists, she has no real principles outside of making whites look as bad as possible.

I reckon it’s internalised racism and they need to realise how hurtful words can be.

It's a far-left organisation that is I assume is still mad about brexit.

So talking about British history is anti - British what happened to freedom of speech?

As much as I love the Brits, This series is not really for them. There could be billions of people around the world that don't realize just how much of their construct, grievances & aspirations was manifested by the Brits, a foreign culture with its own interests. There are many misdirected people and subsequently, political systems that can't seem to get justice & peace because of a pending realisation. The Pax Britannia realisation is such

Don't worry Theyre anti American too.

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This comment is either going to explode with angry people or get buried

@@fin4204 nah

Based, love from 🇭🇷

Ahh no one can save her from us

God curse the British empire and the CCP to hell.

@@PasscodeAdvance so too with the gays

@@sirsydneysmith8847 You are infinitely worse than both the British empire and the CCP. Homophobia is prohibited ans no living creature can display it

Hate the British unless they agree with me aye? Lmao, have a backbone

Nice strawman. I'm sure its easy to dismiss other people's views when you intentionally misrepresent them, eh?

@@minmax5 This entire video is a strawman. Also, it's ironic that a communist would pretend to care when gays were one of the first to be executed under communism.

@@minmax5 Maybe the UK should have kept some of these laws... people like you are really starting to get annoying now that you have full rights and nothing legitimate to complain about (

If these idiots went back in time before Britain colonized large parts of the world they would realise other empires existed. Namely Islamic empires that were just as if not more anti gay lol

Yea... 'Izzzzzlam' was involved in the 'Slavvv' trade too, but you don't see very many Africans running around the middle east. Maybe it's because they 'cass traded' all the men and threw the women's babies into waste dumps. These wokesters drive me faoking insane with their insanity. AND GUESS WHAT WOKESTERS, there are places that are still 'home of phobic' (to the point of 'ex O cutions'), 'Sec ist' (to the point that they don't allow women to leave the house without looking like a fowking beekeeper), 'slavvv owners'.... none of which are in North America or Europe (the places that out of EVERYWHERE on the planet, made the most strides to eliminate such issues).

Reparations obviously. Neverending reparations.

The phrase rings true even If we were talking about The facts, and not even adressing "what to do" yet. I mean... Did It change anything? Is there a presente day negative repercution on those countries or not. If It does (and boy it does) then yeah... You actually can't apologise It away. What to do after recognizing The awfulness of The situation is a Second step, and It does not change The fact that "you can't apologise It away"... Because that is Just a fact

Their logic of "your white ancestors oppressed my yellow/brown/black ancestors, therefore all whites should apologies to all yellow/brown/blacks" is inherently racist.

Nobody needs to apologize for their existence or the sins of others.

If they wanna put the British empire on trial let them recount both the good and bad it's done, not only the bad. Reparations? Make the descendants of every empire that ever existed (more than a hundred) pay for its sins first.

New episode the brits create the steam engine then the industrial revolution damm the brits yave all the fault of climate change out off jokes people have to learn that they can t critices other times with today s time of thinking it isn like the europeans were the only savages doing war we have this wrong idea of every part 9f the eorld outside europe was a paradise where all people live together Sorry for my english i am not a native speaker

Why does it hurt you so much?

let people know. the least you could do.

But queen never apologized

Some of these may not be proper.

They’re going to be hurting for a long time

Then drink more water and put down the ecstasy, mate.

then close your eyes like you do with the attrocities of the Empire are brought up

@@bridgetlover and then what? What happens next?

All media is biased. Depends on what you may agree with

@@gq_barry yea I agree with u in this point 👏👏

New episode the brits create the steam engine then the industrial revolution damm the brits yave all the fault of climate change out off jokes people have to learn that they can t critices other times with today s time of thinking it isn like the europeans were the only savages doing war we have this wrong idea of every part 9f the eorld outside europe was a paradise where all people live together Sorry for my english i am not a native speaker

@@nachooo2036 Salright about the English, good roast though 👍.

@@geraldkiing1904 This doesn’t have anything to do with modern day Britain, it is more about acknowledging the past which the former colonies faced, comming to the issue of the industrial revolution. Britain’s industrial revolution was actually premiced upon the de-industrialization of its colonies. This is not to say that the former colonies were perfect before they came it was however definitively made worse by Britain and problems today often stem directly from colonization.

@Kaushal Batavia Caste System is the most fucked up illogical religious structure . if someone shadow is enough for you to avoid that person and give you right to torture that guy .I am out and caste system was good and bad in some one era is rubbish reformers were there before Britishers and even during their time and after they were gone. Our stupidity is the reason. Atheism is the only solution no religion is up to date with current scenario .most r homophobic , sexist, and science denying . Atheism plus empathy is all we need.

@@vishnusahani2822 You appear to be a rice bag convert. Go to any lsIamic country and preach Atheism to them, but you won't.

Well, technically it was the British Raj that codified and enforced the caste system in almost every sphere of Indian life. This is not to say there wasn't complicity and support from upper caste Indians, but the British certainly played a major role in shaping the caste system during the nearly two centuries they ruled India.

first thing hinduism has lgbtq , i am trans gender i am proud hindu ,

@@__________________________1030 wtf11

Oh thanks, I almost forgot to vote

Least self hating and white worshipping Filipino.

dont mess with us star wars fans we blindly worship imperialism despite the franchise being against it

@@bridgetlover Good soldiers follow orders

@@theemissary1433 **proceeds to commit a literal war crime within the Star Wars canon which later leads to a mass genocide**

Not bases at all.

Imo homophobia has always been there but when there is a law against homosexual, it makes it harder to change homophobic perception. In countries with these laws, homophobia is the accepted perception. Talking about lgbt on social media or promoting it in a political platform, is seen as going against the law. The reality is also lgbt makes up a small minority so there are less ppl fighting the cause while loud mouth anti lgbt can freely make their speech, suppressing the lgbt agenda even more. By having the law removed, it create so much more breathing room to talk about it and bring awareness

All very good questions. I have always been skeptical of the idea that homosexuality in, say, African countries is *entirely* a European import, given how deep-seated that prejudice is in those parts of the world. 🤔

Because after centuries of colnization t became ingrained into modern society

Greece

The Ancient Greeks were pretty accepting.

Well said couldn’t agree more

I'm glad they did!! Lmao

@@roxaneweeks260 You are glad they... You disgust me.

@@francescoliccardi2510 India and south east asian anti gays law has nothing to do with Christinity. We know our regions and local culture better

@@ts8404 you know absolutely nothing about history if you think that🤦‍♂️😂 homophobia was apart of all religions at the time, and still now. England didn’t create homophobia, that’s like saying they created racism🤦‍♂️ it’s a global problem, no one started it you tool🤦‍♂️ plus the British didn’t persecute Native Americans. When England first started colonising America in the 1500s during the reign of Elizabeth 1st, they were friendly with the natives. They brought some back to England, manteo and wanchese. Who were both native chiefs. They were introduced to the queen and worked with linguists so English colonists could learn their language. This was all by consent mind you. They didn’t force them to come. In this period, there were two colonies from England. One failed due to a lack of many things. The other randomly disappeared, and no one knows what happens to it to this day. Presumably attacked by natives. Later when people like the British came again and colonised, nearly every European super power was at war with the natives. They weren’t a friendly bunch to begin with. Don’t think that that means we just went over and started killing them for no reason. Every empire on earth has committed atrocities at one point or another, it wasn’t just the British. And back to the gay thing, you can’t blame England for making countries like Pakistan anti gay, BECAUSE THEY ARE ISLAMIC. THEY DIDNT LIKE GAY PEOPLE BEFORE THE BRITISH, AND THEY DONT LIKE THEM NOW🤦‍♂️

@@joshreeves1036 To be fair homosexuality was widely accepted and tolerated in India before. I mean even the Kamasutra talks about it, we even have our Temples depicting it and the Hindu Gods being gay and trans. No one cared back then. And then all of a sudden everything changed when the Empire criminalized homosexuality in their colonies, including India. You can't deny the fact that colonialism did play a role in influencing societal understanding of things. But thankfully tho things are changing now and people are becoming more open minded about homosexuality like in the past.

@Kyle P.V Yeah that as well lol

@@joshreeves1036 👁👄👁 India wasn't homophobic

@@namjesus1998 everyone was homophobic centuries ago you fool, nearly every religion is and was homophobic, even none religious people saw it as a mental illness. Don’t try to shift blame away.

oh yeah, that empire totally radically shaped recent history

lol

Of everything is Britain's fault all this hate towards the uk is becoming very boring and unoriginal

Actually, same-sex desire and gender diversity can be seen as part of society in most ancient cultures. These are not new concepts and have been a part of humanity since the beginning of humanity.

@@paolocaprani5646, pretending to be bored (when you’re really just offended) is not an effective way to show others you don’t care. You do actually care.

@@binaryvoid0101 Lmao The fact that you can find historical examples of it doesn't mean it was tolerated, widespread or nomalized.

Colonial rule ended 60yrs ago... most of those guys are very much still alive🤦🏻‍♂️

@@TheRockerXSo most of the people in their late 30's to around 70 are still alive 60 years later? Or do you think it was babies in charge? You're an idiot

Colonial thinking doesn't just end with people dying lol.

@@deepstariaenigmatica2601 that wasn't the argument. It was finding the individuals responsible and holding them accountable... which is impossible.

@@Trozzo the original comment was that you can't apologize for "something no living soul on this earth did". And my point was that there are many still-living souls that did these things (even though that generation is starting to die out). And they did those to people who are still alive. When the last of them die, do you think the damage will be magically undone? The effects of what they have done will continue to affect the future generations of all the countries they colonized. No one's asking for an apology, just for you to understand what your grandfathers have done.

Yepp

yea, cuz gay dudes are always wearing wigs and lipstick 🤦 are all gay people drag queens in your eyes? and the wigs come from a time when everyone wore wigs to hide their syphilitic scalps 🤢🤮

makeup was originally made for men.

@@gforgeorge6693 high heels too if I recall correctly

@@dankoni so you’re saying you still wear all that but you’re not gay?

Zimbabwe became a socialist shithole dictatorship after the British left lol

@@TheLocalLt exactly

This is not that uncommon. The fact is when the British were in charge of a lot of these places the bad people from there couldn't take over. The British left and that leaves a power vacuum which in a lot of these places was filled by much worse rulers than the British.

"my anecdote disproves almost 400 years of racism" bro have you even seen star wars? like the basic concept is being anti imperialist

@@bridgetlover who’s that aimed towards. I have seen Star Wars many times. It’s my second favourite franchise. But you said 400 years of racism which is stupid. Racism has existed in society science different people of different races came into contact with each other. It’s all down to not understanding each other.

Gonna cry? Gonna poop your pants?

@@rybread1346 no he isn't

Amen

@@rybread1346 grow up

@@rybread1346 grow up

LMAOO

or how they perpetrated genocide in their less populated colonies to exterminate the natives

In Western countries They where burinng women for witchcraft in the 17th 18th century's. 😅

I know, it's like, these poor imperialists, with all their enormous wealth and power, have been completely unable to flood the world with propaganda and sycophants singing their praises for hundreds of years until very recently. Instead, everybody has done nothing this whole time but slag them off and give them no credit for any good they ever did. Now there's the real tragedy.

@@rgzhaffie exactly, I mean the British empire was one of the most successful in terms of modernising the world and many countries wouldn’t be where they are without it. Similar to the Roman Empire but that doesn’t get half the amount of shade thrown at it.

Yea killing people, and make some laws that think other people in the world are "amoral" is very generous act indeed of British Empire. Yess invading and burning China with its opium war, indeed modernize world ahh yess copium of golden age of history

All the Abrahamic Religions speak against homosexuality, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, all these laws were religious laws, it’s bullshit from vice to say it’s because of Britain, any country that followed a major Abrahamic religion had similar anti homosexuality laws, Britain should be congratulated for being one of the first countries to repeal them, instead the vice narrative is evil westerner spreading hate yada yada yada, what a joke

@@maxwalker1159 this. Pretty sure that if the abrahamic religions have anti gay laws that there are other religions or cultures that have the same. Even if Britain influenced these companies, it's not their fault countries like Pakistan still stone people to death.

The fact of the matter is that many Empires (Britain, Spain, France, Portugal and various Muslim Empires) exported their religious values and introduced homophobia in places where it before did not exist. It's well known that indigenous communities across the Americas were very open to homosexuality and throughout Africa it was either accepted or people were ignorant to its existence. Most places that didn't experience Abrahamic religion are pretty neutral with regards to homosexuality or at the very least don't have the vehement hostility seen in majority Christian or Muslim societies. Though to be clear, I think the spirit of this minidocumentary is misguided. Gotta let go of the past man.

it most definitely wouldve been different in south asia where christianity is minority religion. even muslim countries like turkey dont have laws against homosexuality

@@adreadaline yet homosexuality isn't really accepted in Turkey is it? It's not even accepted in the Turkish community in the Netherlands.

She did say part of the reason, not the entire reason. Arguably, with Britain taking a different stance, it might not be as bad.

lslam is the most homophobic Christians and Jews aren't that much.

What part of the world was tolerant of homosexuality pre-20th century?

@@unclejeffthechad9459 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_homosexuality

Pakistan and Malaysia are only 2 counterexamples to the dozens of other colonized peoples who had homophobia thrust on them. I would point out that Pakistan and India both had traditional 3rd genders since antiquity - British law gave them the language and legal framework to discriminate against them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)

Its not victimization, its almost imposible to take the damage done by imperials, they are rooted in culture nowdays. its not victimuzation is tellimg the thruth of how imperials countries fucked up the world

@@mki441 so you’re saying that they have absolutely no control over their own laws. Bullshit.

@@mki441 and what, they can’t change laws? The fact is that half of these countries that claim to have suffered due to the British are corrupt and poor, such as countries in Africa

@@humanchannel7825 changing the institutions imposed by a metropolis on which they depended economically and culturally (by force) is not something that can be done overnight. even more so if we talk about the British empire, which finished falling just 50 years ago... and many of its interventions are directly responsible for the misery that many former colonies are still going through

@@user-ud4lu6vc9z Without this standard British law, the convicted will get lash and death penalty. Its much more worse prior this law.

In India, they've banned "Sati"-an old tradition of burning the widow on the funeral pyre of her husband. People often forget that the British have also done a lot of good for this world.

Yeah and also looted and exploited our countries

Facts

@@chadmuslim1763 good

Woke liberals distort history to make white, western culture and Christianity look bad. Homophobia is not a white colonial invention. Europa was under influence by Christianity. Christianity and Islam inherited the "homophobia" from Judaism.

nice whataboutism bro, you must be very attached to the british empire

MainIand Communist China is homophobic But Taiwan allowed gay/same sex marriage....

*Communists/Socialists are homophobic* *China, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara...*

@@unclejeffthechad9459 exactly

@@unclejeffthechad9459 Yes my three favorite homophobic people, China, Castro and Guevara. You are still doing whataboutism, you might wanna google what that is.

B A S E D

She's pathetic that's why

Yeah I know I wonder if she is gonna reports on the Japanese, mongol, Ottanman and African empires Oh wait she won't because they ain't white she is anti white.

Fortunately they don't disappoint

Lol same 😂🇬🇧

Same

iran and china not white, Putin now loves socialism/Biden/democrats so they can't touch russia

Read the title of the video you commented on. Is this a raid?

@Kekistani Killer I know they wasn’t in the British empire that’s my point . So who do you blame for the homophobia there .

@Kekistani Killer why is it always people on here that don’t show their actual picture that insult people on here. What are you afraid off . You get walked over in real life or summat.

Both Iran and Russia have well documented LGBTQ+ history. Islam or communism respectively changed that

@87654ba i know about the opium wars how britain got china hooked on opium and won hong kong in the end. But you can't blame britain for homophobia, it was exported by the 3 middle eastern religions, almost every conflict is due to them

If I come into your country with a bunch of guns, and enforce laws that require you to smoke at the penalty of death, do you really think there won't be any impact on the rates of smoking afterwards?

@@minmax5 and when did the British go into China to specifically force the Chinese people to smoke opium.

@@genetix7173 this isn't about smoking opium i was simply using smoking as an analogy for unjust behavior or unjust laws being enforced like the first comment did and like what this video is addressing. SMH SMH SMH

@@minmax5 what is unjust behaviour and unjust law.

Another 100 years of england 🥳

Lol, England is gonna fall before 2122

Quebec... Because it's runned by wh... 🤐

Right on! This is a very one sided hate the Brits feeling piece! When in fact they were probably the cleanest n least ruthless empires of those times. By today's standards they're evil maybe, but they were in different times.

Indonesia

Strawman, and a stupid one too.

That's already commonly talked about. The point is to talk about the history that isn't pleasant.

We understand you're white no need to get all defensive

Historical facts don’t care about your feelings.

It’s entertaining to see all the White tears this video extracted.

@@binaryvoid0101 that's just racist

@@safire7384, It’s not. I’m also White.

the empire has been dead for 25 years

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read the fucken first 4 paragraphs from this website usa666.wordpress.com and you will see why this is being aggressively pursued.

Yeah, freaks!!

Imagine being too dumb to understand colonial history

@bro ha Correct

How is this garbage?

I see no garbage here. Move along.

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Lol I guess someone got triggered 😂😂 but yeah I am on the same opinion, vitrue signaling isn't cool, and one sided materials like this one i guess do more harm than educating :/. To finish on a positive note I believe it gets better slowly but it does, like for all us :)

@Obsidian Wildfire why did you end the comment with "so..." ?

You are right! You can learn from hundred of comments' perspectives rather than one video.

It's vice. They're lazy asf

yeah they need better writers FOR REAL

@@dennisbarnes9317 is there an echo? Didn’t I just say that. Tf you commenting for.

Kudos to ending something The Empire started

After profiting from it for hundreds of years!!! Not to mention that the Royal Navy shut down the slave trade mainly to prevent its colonial rivals from continuing to profit from it…they didn’t want the competition 😒

@@abcelu In fairness, the Portuguese actually started it, then the Spaniards, *then* the Brits and French and the rest. But that’s doesn’t get them off the hook.

Except it didn't. Brazil accepted those laws but continued to trade 4 million slaves through the ocean until 1888.

It may have been taboo, but it was there. Colonialism had a heavy influence on areas that it pillaged, raped , and stole from. Traditional laws for certain people groups in Africa have been replaced by colonialist laws. The same happened in other part of the world, too.

Actually, homosexuality was not seen as taboo in pre-colonial Africa. It was very much a part of society.

Prior to European colonisation, throughout the African continent we see far different, more relaxed attitudes towards sexual orientation and gender identity. For centuries, across the African continent there was a completely different attitude towards sexual and gender identities. Many African countries did not see gender as a binary in the way that their European colonisers did, nor did they correlate anatomy to gender identity. In no African country prior to colonisation do we see any persecution of LGBT individuals because of their sexuality, nor any anti-LGBT laws.

Same-sex desire along with gender diversity has been a part of humanity since the beginning of humanity.

Yep, that's what I've seen too.

It's cultural. At least the man accepts responsibility. In America men just pay off prostitutes...like the American president... Tromp.

@@sharongillesp can't forget how bidens son hunter does the same too now

@@petu2123 You guys find a way to make everything political

Elecktion time

@@sharongillesp TROMP

It's important to look at the past to an extent, the past has a direct impact on the material world we currently live in, and therefor it is important to analyze the past to make better choices about what to do in the future.

The OP is clearly salty.

don't worry our media is heavily payed by the alt left of self hating whites...she's making a killing here

Ok

you say problem like its bad

@@saturny2k383 you don't understand what he's saying

Yes but it is difficult to get rid of an ideology after many centuries of brainwashing.I am greek ,and in ancient greece gay people were not hated not given a second thought.Ince christianity came and mitigated by the jews and Roman's it has become an anathema in greece!

Wouldn’t that technically be blaming the Jews then?

@@AA-bn7tf well it was preached by jews first...

Yo, I live in a former British colony too. We are the same you and I.

They could educate people by teaching gay history in schools and how homophobic laws came to be instituted, they could also send ambassadors to their former colonies to dismantle homophobic laws and system of oppression of the LGBT community

@@victorian3611 or they could leave sane black and brown countries alone with their first world rich people perverse nonsense. Let us be already

@@victorian3611 That is beyond belittling to other nations, "why hello, it's me, your former colonial overlord back here to tell you how to run your country again because you little inepts haven't been keeping up with modern western morals and values so I'm back to impose them on you again" That would do little but, rightly, infuriate.

@@spacesuit9354 Are you to brain dead to realize that your homophobic attitude is first world rich people nonsense

@@greatalexander3820 Its because they are incompetent by spewing hate towards the LGBTQ community to distract their citizens from their own economic short comings

No, actually, not really even close.

Im pretty objective about history and honestly I agree with Blake. Britain was almost as brutal as Rome as far as its colonies are considered. You cant really say the same historically about, say, Vietnam.

name 5 other countries that did what the british empire did

@@blake432 Some countries that were colonized were actually muslim before they were christian, and still in majority are, Islam is a very homophobic religion so the homophobia was already there, the Brits maybe just backed it up🤣

China Numba 1

Yeah...it's hard to face one's nasty background. But hey...if you keep ignoring it it'll never be resolved. I'm not gay and you're probably not either...but I'm the more intelligent...because I understand the Golden Rule and try to live by it.

@@sharongillesp nope

@@sharongillesp Lapping up Hebrew propaganda does not make you intelligent 😀

Who knew historical facts could hurt so many feelings 😭💦

Slavery was there in british empire. Lot of indian were sent to Africa as slaves by Brithieves Or british