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How the Clone Army Was Originally Planned to Fight AGAINST the Jedi (And Why the Plan Changed) 

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The Non-Canon Expert explains how the Clone Army was originally planned by the Sith to fight AGAINST the Jedi rather than alongside them, and also describes why Darth Sidious and Darth Plagueis ultimately concluded that having the Jedi and Clone troopers fight together was a better strategy for their Grand Plan.

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@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 7 лет назад
Having the clones fight against the Jedi would have been like the old times, where the Sith started wars to conquer the Republic and destroy the Jedi only to fail. Order 66, however, was the ultimate Jedi trap and a perfect expression of Darth Bane's teachings about secrecy and treachery. It demonstrates the evolution of Sith teachings.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 7 лет назад
That is a very accurate assessment ImperialistOpinions.
@HonestHappyHater
@HonestHappyHater 7 лет назад
ImperialistOpinions But Vitiate's Sith Empire was ment to fail, don't you remember? It existed only to take as many lives as possible and weaken the Republic for the Eternal Empire
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 7 лет назад
Honest Happy Hater Do you remember that Vitiate's Empire was not the only one to attack the Republic? Naga Sadow, Exar Kun, Revan and Malak, Darth Ruin and Lord Kaan with his Brotherhood of Darkness all atempted it and failed. My point on the matter stands. Besides, the entire Eternal Empire story is kinda weird.
@HonestHappyHater
@HonestHappyHater 7 лет назад
ImperialistOpinions Yeah, of course. Just saying, this one Empire could really easly destroy the Republic, but their own emperor stopped them
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 7 лет назад
Honest Happy Hater They could not have won easily. Books make it clear that the Empire was greatly weakened after the Great Galactic War and needed the Treaty of Coruscant to recover it's military strength. While they were strong in the beginning of the Galactic War, infighting weakened the Sith Empire again - both Malgus and the Dread Masters went rogue, together with a huge portion of the Empire's forces following them. That's primarily what allowed the Republic to take the initiative. The Sith, as usual, did their best to defeat themselves. That the Sith Empire was never meant to win as per Vitiate's plans is very likely a retcon.
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 7 лет назад
Imagine if both droids and clones fought the Jedi
@jonathanzayas6084
@jonathanzayas6084 7 лет назад
Reverse Dipper Pines bye bye to the jedi order
@johndanieljavier1811
@johndanieljavier1811 7 лет назад
Reverse Dipper Pines and then events would be different
@theordinarytime
@theordinarytime 7 лет назад
Technically that's the way it happened. But I doubt that would achieve the intended goal. Sure it'd probably be hell for the republic and the people of the republic, but ultimatley the Jedi would just go full on guerilla and save the day in a couple of decades.. At worst a century. Not unlike how the galactic empire fell, because sith can't run states for shit.
@Lotikwahu
@Lotikwahu 7 лет назад
Then the Jedi would have a whole bunch of objects to hurl at the clones.
@redrockseven9114
@redrockseven9114 7 лет назад
the Jedi will still lose but the Jedi has more chances of running away if it happened that way.
@zacharyrose7217
@zacharyrose7217 7 лет назад
Hearing Sidious say "execute order 66" fulfilled my life.
@uglyjihad
@uglyjihad 7 лет назад
Zachary Rose YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER
@PlanetaKitare
@PlanetaKitare 7 лет назад
What if the Clones were used against the Jedi in the Separatist side?
@V2011F
@V2011F 6 лет назад
that would be similar to the idea of the original clone wars inspired by Luke asking Obi-wan about the clone wars and how he fought in them. It would also fix a lot of issues the timeline had and would allow for storm troopers to be evil and badass fighting against an army of warrior Jedi in a losing war.
@borat1191
@borat1191 7 лет назад
If you like the Clone Wars, you have to read "Trees in November", an 80-Chapter-Fanfic about Captain Rex, Commander Cody and their men a few weeks after the events on the Rishi outpost. Great stuff.
@borat1191
@borat1191 7 лет назад
Spoiler, Kix gets impaled by a steel spike on a crash but manages to pull through.
@soupermoviecritic8511
@soupermoviecritic8511 7 лет назад
What would've happened if Leia made it to Tattoine and met with Obiwan? Think about it. Would he join the Rebels? Or would he decline?
@BeethovenIsGrumpyCat
@BeethovenIsGrumpyCat 7 лет назад
0:50 So Plinkett's idea of evil cloned monsters?
@DeShawnMcDonald
@DeShawnMcDonald 6 лет назад
I always thought jedi should be using the droids while the cis use clones. Droids are a lot more morally good then creating life just for war which you'd think the jedi would be vehemently against
@dylanfigueroa3625
@dylanfigueroa3625 7 лет назад
I recommend you get closer to your mic or make that volume on your videos higher, the volume is to low even on full volume. Have a blessed day
@juanvega3306
@juanvega3306 7 лет назад
Dylan 24 no it isn't
@Eirikar_
@Eirikar_ 7 лет назад
Get better earphones/headphones
@thorthewolf8801
@thorthewolf8801 7 лет назад
I don't like listening to videos with earphones/headphones that's why I use my PC. And I have to agree, he is very quiet even with all of the volume settings at max.
@dylanfigueroa3625
@dylanfigueroa3625 7 лет назад
Oh and btw I am not a headphone users
@admiralkoerner2737
@admiralkoerner2737 7 лет назад
His videos do have lower volume than most.
@Liam8
@Liam8 7 лет назад
I know it's stupid but was there a chance that one of the many clones might have some how received a high enough midiclorian count to be some what force sensitive
@JonneTopiRausku
@JonneTopiRausku 7 лет назад
Propably not since as clones they were all genetically identical
@darthguilder1923
@darthguilder1923 7 лет назад
Look up X1 and X2
@Liam8
@Liam8 7 лет назад
Darth Guilder weren't they clones of a Jedi?
@JonneTopiRausku
@JonneTopiRausku 7 лет назад
Well if you clone a jedi you would get a force sensitive clone but the major force in the clone army were clones of non-force sensitive Jango Fett
@darthguilder1923
@darthguilder1923 7 лет назад
Murphy L I think so.
@riverplasmahero2508
@riverplasmahero2508 7 лет назад
Awesome video as always!!! Very interesting. I had wondered when their plan switched from destroy and conquer to subterfuge. Can't wait to see what you do next! Thanks SWRC!!! :D
@dantejester8863
@dantejester8863 5 лет назад
Palpatine was like screw it. Why not both lol
@QixTheDS
@QixTheDS 6 лет назад
If they had used the Clone Army to attack, they could’ve succeeded a lot faster as the Republic had no standing army and a first, decisive strike would’ve been the beginning of the end for the Republic. Instead of two opposing factions, that they ran at the same time, they should’ve sticked to the original plan to attack the Republic but with the Jango clones.
@thechairman74
@thechairman74 7 лет назад
We need a video about why the Clone War is called that, pretty sure no one ever thought the Clone Wars were about clones fighting for the Jedi.
@elblekqet
@elblekqet 7 лет назад
i like your channel but your volume is always really low.
@ernestopolo2859
@ernestopolo2859 7 лет назад
Who else watched this video 3 times to get all the info straight?
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 7 лет назад
Nice vid. Really enjoyed it. Accurate all the way.
@thesenate9779
@thesenate9779 7 лет назад
I do prefer the longer video format, as displayed here. If only other channels did this as well
@randallpetroelje3913
@randallpetroelje3913 3 года назад
If not for meeee, I love your content and your commentary!! Beautiful man- just beautiful. I just wish that “they” would do a decent job of canon like a jigsaw puzzle where every piece fits.
@charleshemphill6923
@charleshemphill6923 6 лет назад
I love how you end all of your vids I'm a big fan of your material cheers from Michigan
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 7 лет назад
besides getting to see an hear Palpatine utter his infamous order to enact order 66. We DID see them clones turn on and wage war against the Jedi. it just took long and they did true to Sith nature made themselves seem like friends and allies till the Jedi were trusting and had their guard lowered. Which then made the attack which might've failed like prior times did.. ESPECIALLY if as still seen as heroes and Republic protectors the Galactic Senate could've called up a just as big a army to help fight the now enemy clones or being respected enough before being made to seem traitors.. If they tried the traditional Sith method of just attack the Jedi with a clone army other then how the events unfolded in the comics and movies a regular non clone army could've also mobilized to help the Jedi on their own which wouldn't have helped them in the end. So Palpatine was right to first discredit them after setting up the Republic/Separatist war to get the Clones to be seen as armed help in order to help kill them later. In this case it seems the movie, comic and show way as we know it was the best outcome
@chromekardashian777
@chromekardashian777 6 лет назад
That end tho
@katerbiller04
@katerbiller04 7 лет назад
Perhaps you might want to do an expose on just how Plagus and Sideous planned and executed their greatest strategy of creating both the "enemy of the Republic "( by funding and creating the Separatists army) and " the army of the Republic " ?
@sealmeme6344
@sealmeme6344 7 лет назад
Excellent video as always.
@MrRonald327
@MrRonald327 5 лет назад
Good plan.
@therelentlessnight941
@therelentlessnight941 6 лет назад
Posted on my birthday...
@adamwebb8114
@adamwebb8114 4 года назад
More devious and much more effective by doing it the way they did
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 года назад
The last thing generals would expect would be for be their own army to turn against them, considering the jedi were generals, and trapped under the thumb of the republic, the sith brought a crushing defeat upon them.
@brandondowdy4220
@brandondowdy4220 4 года назад
Why cant they make a movie of plaguis
@frankludwig4268
@frankludwig4268 7 лет назад
Good video and interesting
@Strypher16
@Strypher16 7 лет назад
how was the clone army even paid for?
@johndanieljavier1811
@johndanieljavier1811 7 лет назад
Carlos Read mango was paid to have his DNA cloned
@kvaldez46
@kvaldez46 7 лет назад
Daniel Javier lol mango
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 7 лет назад
I think Darth Plagueis provided the funding. Not completly sure since it's been a while since I read the novel. Palpatine would have taken over after he killed Plagueis and inherited his riches
@pureaidswithmemes8053
@pureaidswithmemes8053 7 лет назад
The army was comissioned by Dias, a Jedi. The first up front pay was propably by Plagueis, and the rest was put on Republic's tab after those 10 years. Not sure though, Id have to reread the Plagueis book
@johndanieljavier1811
@johndanieljavier1811 7 лет назад
Kevin Valdez jango.. dammit auto correct
@ryansanico6539
@ryansanico6539 5 лет назад
If not for me thank goodness Darth Bane is back in Star Wars Canon.
@jakemcalister8561
@jakemcalister8561 7 лет назад
What was that ending
@AndresSylvinho
@AndresSylvinho 4 года назад
The clone wars wasn't a civil war, it was between opposing sides and armies
@michaelcnorth1982
@michaelcnorth1982 7 лет назад
I have no idea why Thraws picture is constantly appearing when this video is about the clones..
@lucasbachmann
@lucasbachmann 6 лет назад
That Thrawn is the avatar of the channel's owner and is meant to be seen as the video's narrator making an appearance.
@jamesrichardson8488
@jamesrichardson8488 6 лет назад
Could barely hear it???
@aurathedraak7909
@aurathedraak7909 7 лет назад
Mmm time to go hiding.
@gibby8540
@gibby8540 7 лет назад
Imagian they make a star wars show but with stormtroopers or clones like band of brother or mash
@malkavianstr450
@malkavianstr450 7 лет назад
I.M.P.S. closest thing.
@eugenederry343
@eugenederry343 7 лет назад
Order 66 is a trap to murder most of the Jedi and branded them traitors to the Republic. Order 66 was introduced in Revenge of The Sith, after the death of General Grievous on Utapau by the hands of Obi Wan Kenobi. Also after the death of Mace Windu; Anakin Skywalker assisting Palpatine to murder him, so Anakin can become Palpatine's new apprentice and crowned him Darth Vader. Palpatine is the only one who can issue Order 66 and it succeeded; most of the Jedi were killed by their own clone army. While others survived including: Obi Wan Kenobi, Yoda, Quinlan Vos, Rahm Kota, and Ahsoka Tano.
@robertogurrola7465
@robertogurrola7465 7 лет назад
Eugene Derry we know, why'd you type this?
@captainrex5315
@captainrex5315 7 лет назад
But what about Syfo Dias?
@robertogurrola7465
@robertogurrola7465 7 лет назад
Captain Rex probably sent by Dooku to commission an army while Dooku recruited Jango. I assume Dooku later betrayed Sifo Dias. IDK, and TCW show makes it even harder.
@perfectcell5613
@perfectcell5613 5 лет назад
Syfo Dias is Sidious do you npcs even watch the clone wars
@wolfsmoke6053
@wolfsmoke6053 7 лет назад
Mic too low to hear
@burkesullivan9086
@burkesullivan9086 7 лет назад
What if Anakin couldn't kill the younglings? Think about it: "Anakin, now Darth Vader, ignited his lightsaber. The younglings flinched. He could not breathe, they stood no chance against him. They were not Battle Droids or the traitorous Jedi, they were children. He thought of Padmé: they were soon to have a child of their own-the thought of killing a child and alienating her was too much. It would haunt him for the rest of his life, like a shadow. He closed his eyes, thinking carefully about his next move."
@N7Masterchief1
@N7Masterchief1 7 лет назад
Do you need to turn up the volume on your videos we can't hear squat
@Beepboop-uw4cg
@Beepboop-uw4cg 7 лет назад
I thought it would be a normal video until I saw thrawn and he said "in this video expose".... oh dear I've made a mistake
@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle
@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle 5 месяцев назад
This is not correct. "We will back them into the corner. We will force them to oversee the conflict that plagues their vaunted republic; to reveal their flaws" -Darth Plageuis from the Novel
@psyxypher3881
@psyxypher3881 6 лет назад
What if...they cloned Force Sensitive clones?
@Ruosteinenknight
@Ruosteinenknight 6 лет назад
In legends continuity Palpatine actually did give it a go. He cloned a jedi master who was very strong in the force and had an ego to match, as well as supremacist views of force-sensitives and how they should rule over all creation. Result was...not what he expected. While the clone was just as colossal prick as the original who desired power, it also was insane to a point that it tried to reshape anyone mind to it's own image using the force.
@Zen-rw2fz
@Zen-rw2fz 5 лет назад
It did fight them tho
@Aristocratic13
@Aristocratic13 7 лет назад
Video exposay?
@samhobbs9116
@samhobbs9116 7 лет назад
Dude you seriously need a better mic, so so quiet when every other vid is a perfect volume
@lieutenantnomad9198
@lieutenantnomad9198 7 лет назад
Is this canon or legends?
@imperialistopinions2276
@imperialistopinions2276 7 лет назад
Legends, sourced from the Darth Plagueis novel
@robertogurrola7465
@robertogurrola7465 7 лет назад
Lieutenant Nomad legends is Canon to some people (cries in corner)
@perfectcell5613
@perfectcell5613 5 лет назад
*OFFICIAL* L2 ENGLISH
@perfectcell5613
@perfectcell5613 5 лет назад
@@robertogurrola7465 *OFFICIAL* L2 ENGLISH
@jmess003
@jmess003 7 лет назад
That new rebels trailer was AMAZING!!!!!!!!
@floridaman5866
@floridaman5866 4 года назад
will they did fight and killed jedis
@N1ghthawkL06
@N1ghthawkL06 7 лет назад
Your audio is way too low
@treystephens4490
@treystephens4490 7 лет назад
We need more Barris Offe!
@braddollahite7589
@braddollahite7589 7 лет назад
ok so why go from the clones which was the best fighters in the galaxy to stormtroopers who cant hit a dam thing when it counted?
@xjamesx7047
@xjamesx7047 7 лет назад
during before the events of Rogue One and Episode 4 in the planet of Kamino, the Kaminoans decide that they will no longer serve the Galactic Empire and now they moved to Plan B by began an Uprising then the uprising didnt work the secret technique they brought down this unrest is by sending back Boba Fett to his home planet and stop it. now after the Uprising the Empire begins to recruits normal humans now thats why Stortmtroopers cant aim
@Hartzilla2007
@Hartzilla2007 7 лет назад
"ok so why go from the clones which was the best fighters in the galaxy to stormtroopers who cant hit a dam thing when it counted?" The Clone Army was decommissioned after the war.
@robertogurrola7465
@robertogurrola7465 7 лет назад
Brad Dollahite because Darth Sidious realized that a clone army was to susceptible to tampering and decided an army of human volunteers could be more easily controlled and contained, think of it like the NAZI Waffen SS. Volunteers who only see their doing as the right thing. Or brainwashed, clones answered any order without question so they could more easily become a threat, and humans are probably cheaper.
@gabrieltejada1697
@gabrieltejada1697 7 лет назад
it amazes me that even to this day idiots still think stormtroopers never hit their targets when it has happened several times in the movies. Now as for other times when facing the main characters well it's pretty obvious: PLOT ARMOR.
@___SourR34___
@___SourR34___ 6 лет назад
can you talk louder? i have to double my volume level just to hear you
@perfectcell5613
@perfectcell5613 5 лет назад
*OFFICIAL* L2 ENGLISH
@jonaswian3500
@jonaswian3500 7 лет назад
I guess Sidius was waiting for Anakin to have his full loyalty to him. And so Sidius wanted to make Anakin stronger by letting him participate executing the jedi. ...Also star wars would be fucked up if all jedi got shot in the back and died just like that on geonosis.
@codylujan
@codylujan 7 лет назад
turn up your mic. jesus. you sound like you're whispering
@danielmayhugh9602
@danielmayhugh9602 7 лет назад
Why do you always show thrawn in your videos lol
@diamond19knight80
@diamond19knight80 7 лет назад
200th like!
@Thetreetroll
@Thetreetroll 7 лет назад
Lizardman
@UnderratedSpaghetti
@UnderratedSpaghetti 7 лет назад
Do you think the clones did the hanky-Panky with each other?
@nickfury1279
@nickfury1279 6 лет назад
Darth Plagueis that would technically be incest
@UnderratedSpaghetti
@UnderratedSpaghetti 6 лет назад
Nick Fury what’s wrong with a lil incest with your clone brother ;)
@UnderratedSpaghetti
@UnderratedSpaghetti 4 года назад
The Nova renaissance I love that you replied to this 2 years after I said it lol but no he never took me up on the offer... that bastard
@megalord2598
@megalord2598 7 лет назад
First
@IndigoEuphonium
@IndigoEuphonium 7 лет назад
Care, we do not
@spideysg1163
@spideysg1163 3 года назад
Mega Lord nobody cares
@the_Kutonarch
@the_Kutonarch 7 лет назад
It's *Piracy,* not "Piratetism".
@eclipsenova7607
@eclipsenova7607 7 лет назад
The clones done nothing wrong.
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