I can't wait to see how your channel grows and your content improves you have got a personality and talent for this. And you don't be in drama how you do that lol
Say that shit girl ! I AM SO TIRED OF HER GETTING ALL THIS PRAISE FOR BEING A GOOD SINGER. SHE DOESNT SING ANY OF HER SONGS ! And she tried to steal ONE THING from Amerie but Aneries producer leaked it to the radio before she could steal it......
J Lo used hip-hop to extend her career for that short period. I still believe if Selena never passed that she could have been the one to break the music barrier for Latin- hip hop
the stories of Milli Vanilli and JLo are absolutely nothing alike, she actually sings. She has credited background singers and sings over their vocals but that is not remotely the same as lip synching to someone else vocals backgrounds AND lead
Exactly I remember when this happened there was no real anger at Frank Farian he did them really wrong. People were burning the cds and everything just doing too much.
SvetlanaLaves Saysitasitis They were probably desperate for fame with the belief that it would change their financial situation dramatically...because they were poor. So they took the offer.
Because the world has only recently become more sensitive and prone to call things out. J Lo is brought up all the time on twitter and there are many youtube videos about it. At the same time “cancel culture” is selective and fake, and I feel like most of her music in recent years is more Latin based so it’s hard to say that her music career can be dismantled.
She used different ghost singers on her verses, but she still sings on her songs. Here it's two cardboard cutouts of "singers" backed by actual singers that always stayed in the shadow. Different types of shady exploitation.
Milli Vanilli is a CLEAR example of how wicked and evil the entertainment industry is. Imagine the same people who forced you to lip-sync to make money off of you, also condemned you for lip syncing, and then stripes you of all of your accolades. Shaaaaaady!! 🤦🏾♀️
Yuppie GSV They were forced into doing it rather you believe it or not i could give a fuck , but when someone is telling your ass to do something especially since they done gave you money & paid off some of your bills i think that's been forced & bullied .
@@CandanceOnline exactly! The whole situation could've clearly been avoided to begin with had Frank not forced Fab and Rob to lip sync. He basically made it a complete farce out of them and no one was the wiser. Rob had a point regarding the duo's MTV performance in a later interview. He definitely had a wonderful singing voice on him.
Arizona Fire Ent it’s sad because they were exploited, pretty much forced into it because they had no money. After they were found out to be frauds, it took a toll on Rob and he died of an overdose.
RKELLYSCOCO they signed a 10 song a year contract that stated that if they don’t lip sync, they would face legal consequences. They trusted Frank Farian but he had bad intentions. Didn’t you watch the video at all?
RKELLYSCOCO didn’t the OP say that frank lent them 4000 dollars, and he said if you don’t do this you’d have to pay it back ? Isn’t that loosely on the terms of being forced since if they didn’t do what he said they would be in debt and homeless... lol idk
Frank wanted to be a Black entertainer. He had the musical gift, but he knew that his looks wouldn't cut it. So he hired Black entertainers to be the face and he swindled them. i had NO idea about Boney M. i always thought that was Bobby's group.
Wow, I was 11-year old when Boney M. came and I began collecting their music, but it was already clear to me who sang the Male vocals and who were the two women who did sing and who was the one who didn't sing -on the recordings. The REAL LIVE Concerts (like in Dublin, Sun City etc), they all sang LIVE including Bobby and Maizie (but Frank didn't), in the Playback Concerts and TV-shows they didn't sing LIVE at all: only Mimed, in the Semi-Live Playback Concerts they all sang on top of the Full Playback Vocals. After disbanding they formed their own groups an continued shows/concerts with the same variatiing methods, depending of the needds of Venue/circumstances.
Milli Vanilli scandal still ranks as one of the most shocking moments in music history and it was sad how one of the members took his own life and it’s sad how the producer used them and took advantage of them and fired them once they had no use to him
Right, Frank took advantage of them all. They were young and nieve but good guys though. If it wasn't Rob & Fab he would have found other guys to use. Because it was all in his plans from the beginning.
I feel like the producer should have done jail time, because his silence & silencing others about him being the real mastermind definitely lead to that suicide.
Absolutely true. They were not the first...ghost singers or "dubbers" have been around since the early days of Hollywood "talkies" and musicals. They weren't even the most successful...C+C Music Factory sold far more copies with Zelma Davies miming to performances by the excellent Martha Wash. I made a documentary on Boney M, Milli Vanilli and all the other examples of this type of thing, including Martha Wash, Black Box, Technotronic, Phil Spector, Marni Nixon etc... Here's part 2 which picks up pretty much where this video ends... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-431EVSOoYQM.html
I mean....this is still happening. All of the Black American R&B and Gospel singers are completely imitated by others and thrown away as unimportant or not commercially viable despite laying the foundation for the sound.
Yes, read because if you ask questions, especially when the person is a fucking fraud. They will tell you something different, so please read. This goes for anything.
I don't think Frank wanted them to succeed Because he didn't credit the REAL singers and didn't trust Milli Vanilli to make their own music He wanted to use them for 15mins of fame and then drop them
They got away with it in England i am in my 30s and only just found out via this documentary that the male act in boney M was not singing his parts Boney M was and is a big deal in Europe I am guessing he thought he could do it bigger and better for his second act
So sad that they were used like that, people are really horrible. They were seriously gorgeous as hell and could have been amazing models. Black is so fuckn beautiful however it gets abused way to often.
Bullshit, They also had the voice hence why Frank said they could sing on the next album And also they did sing live infront of the press with the press then clapping
No. He exploited HOUSE MUSIC that originated out of chi town and ny. The europeans used black people to recreate black music in europe and RENAME it. Cultural appropriation. They swear out they started the genre when it was house music all along
@@JD-zw5os lol. Csn u believe that they even hijack the word "karen". Now they call us karens when we complain about them without understanding almost ALL of them are karens. The privilege is exceeding
@@toonmama6 Yeah Fab said they were having a party at their house when he turned on the TV. As soon as he saw it, he yelled for everyone to shut up. After they watched, Rob looked at Fab and said "it's over!"
@@staciegreene2262 I can see this one being interesting, if done right. Both men, coming from their respective backgrounds, struggling, but confident in their star potential and then being offered a deal from the Devil. I'd watch it.
My mom had a Boney M album on vinyl back in the day. She bought it a couple of years before I was born. I definitely remember Milli Vanilli scandal, I laughed at it as a kid, until one of the members took his own life, you just don't know what someone is going through in their lives.
@@Tkimba2 I don't know about Nicki Minaj, the music industry has it out for her. She's been in the industry for over 13 years and she never received #1 records nor grammy awards, so Nicki is not an artist pulling a Milli Vanilli. And she actually writes her own raps.
@@timmy841212 Yeah I Feel Bad... They Got Ridiculed And Judged Just For Years Later Artist Come And Do The Same Thing And Get Props And Praises For It...
Dead right he doesn't care about Rob or any body else , as long as he's getting the money , he's ugly inside and out,,,,Rob was beutiful inside and out.... karma is taking its time to pay him back , but karma will get ,,,,
@@SunshineBalogun stevie wonder used Frank Farian's studio to record "I Just Called to Say I Love You", and that's it. he shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with Stevie Wonder, trying to gain credibility
The face of the band takes all hate & scandal, while the real villain behind the curtain gets off scott free. Rob & Fab were so handsome, I never got rid of my posters.
same with vanilla ice, snow, and mc hammer all were treated badly by people in the music business who are using the same tactics they accused these innocent people of...make you wonder if the intent was to just get them out of the way so they can profit off the same thing
I was going on a Milli Vanilli RU-vid binge yesterday. No joke. And you come out with this video. Perfect timing👏🏻👏🏻❤️ I do hear they’re going to make a movie about them and I hope they do. What they went through is fascinating and sad to me.
This is really eye opening.... it really shows that the new phenonomen of "blackfishing" is nothing new, it just changed with the culture but non-black people using "blackness" as an aesthetic has been going on for a long time
Btw girl I'm a Drag Queen and lipsync for a living. I can always tell when a music artist is doing lipsyncing !😮 But I don't blame these guys, they actually had good voices, and I know their management made them lipsync which is dumb. He used them to make some money and then threw them away.
I don't blame Rob and Fab and never have simply because they were pushed on to it from a position of poverty. I DO blame Frank, Arista, and producers and associated. They all knew exactly what was being done.
The media blamed everything on them and Favian didn't get any blame. But Fab is still singing, put out a whole album. Face Meets Voice: A Milli Vanilli Experience.
There are a lot of cases similar to Milli Vanilli's.... to name a few: Black Box, C&C Music Factory, Corona, Tecnotronic ("Pump up the jam" music video) among others, used models to lip-sync instead of the real singers. It was a common practice.
@@Chuck_EL it’s a shame. They got the short end of the stick and everyone just blamed them. I’ve also heard some of Fab’s vocals, it’s such a shame that Rob felt the need to take his life and that Fab hasn’t had the chance to shine.
Black Box & CC Music Factory tried the same thing with ex Weather Girl Martha Wash. The only difference was Martha had already established her career, you immediately knew her voice even though Somebody else was passing it off as theirs.
Get out my head! I was just riding around the city blasting "Girl you know it's true...ooh oooo ooh I love youuu" thinking of this group heavy. Yes! You always come through 👏🏼🔥
@@iamgooberz They barely speak English at that time so of course they are going to sound horrible. Actually dissing a singer's voice is attacking their character, lol. Now, that is a fact!
I remember Rob saying in an interview that he was hoping they didn't win the Grammy because, he knew if they won the gig was gonna be up.😂The MTV fiasco was funny as hell tho... Imagine something like that happening to Beyonce.😂😂😂
"All we wanted was not to get the Grammy. If we would get the Grammy, we knew our time was ticking. And we got the goddamn Grammy!" - Rob Pilatus, VH1's Behind the Music, November 1997
@@timmy841212 Yup, that's exactly what he said.😂😂😂 Do you have a link to that video? I watched it once online but now I can't seem to find it anywhere. I would love to watch it again.
@John Edwards yeah she is, but honestly as she could sing lead, she should have done Background as well.... The stuff her and her management did was messy 🤷♂️
It's a shame that back then Rob and Fab was crucified as if it was their idea in the first place and I mean, who wouldn't take an opportunity such as that when you are poor and struggling to make a name for yourself. Now it's as normal as breathing and hard as hell to find an authentic artist. What's the name used?? *snapping my fingers* oh yeah, a "Studio Artist" *wink*
Fun Fact. Girl you know it’s true was written by Baltimore Hip Hop group The Numarx which one of the members was Kevin Liles. That was the original demo. I know because he’s my cousin. They got paid and a riaa platinum for that and Kevin went on to work with Def Jam as a&r for island records div and soon head of Def Jam and the rest is history. 💯 look up “Numarx Girl you know it’s true “. God bless.
I wish Rob and Fab had the foresight to get themselves some Singing lessons from the start, and gotten with another lable to market their independent album
I'm so glad you're taking this angle because it's so true! Frank Farian was talented enough to create some memorable tunes-I'll give him that! Boney M's imperial phase from '76 to '80 is a testament to his production genius, with such memorable tunes as "Rivers of Babylon," "Daddy Cool," "Ma Baker," "Rasputin" and "Gotta Go Home," just to name a few. But his refusal to make Bobby Farrell sing is just stupid. Honestly, aside from his crazy dance moves and on-stage persona, there was hardly any contribution from him on any of those songs. He could've easily put his voice there, maybe even buried behind Liz, Marcia, and Maizie, but that didn't happen. Same with Rob and Fab. Farian was indeed the villain in both cases.
Did you know that Frank Farian was also behind the group Eruption (I can't stand the rain)? They sang themselves but hardly made any money and he toured them around like crazy.
I loved Boney M. I had no idea. The girls sounded like ABBA but with more feeling and a better beat, and I loved the raspy voice that I thought was Bobby's and his dancing. I feel so bad for what happened to him. I can't help it though, I still love the music.
All kinds of people got screwed over by that Frank, the original voices should have just done the Milli Vanilli album. Rob and Fab should have kept doing their own vocals...who knows what could have came of it.
I wonder why there isn't a Milli Vanilli movie already... What that producer did wasn't uncommon in Europe. So many groups back then with lipsyncing frontmen. It was a common formula: Dance music + singer + american rapper = Hit song...and the singers never made it to the video.
The more time passes the more I'm willing to blame this man who used ghost singers that didn't even know they were being set up. Plus the actual men in the group could sing and were just desperate for a better life.
When rob abd fabien was on A senior Hall show they did one of their new song from their ablum and they could sing abd i dont know why we didnt give them a 2bd chance. That Producer was wrong they could sing