hey thanks for watching my video! and thank you for sharing the story of Bart and the Great Donor Show, it really means a lot to me. you might've helped convince 1 person to become an organ donor themselves and save a life. 💙
Hi Joey, Thanks a lot for taking the time and leaving a comment! Appreciate all the time you have put in this video. And indeed I hope that more people will be come donors!
And i was in the studio at that time and before the show a Austrian journalist from a programme there asked me things about it. And what made it later more "special" that my own fiancé passed away because of a kidneydisease. I am a donor since 2014, and in 2018 i had got all the tests if i could have given a kidney to her. And the day that they gave green light for that, was the day that she said goodbye and she wanted to die at her sisters place. She had also Alzheimer because of that kidneydisease. But im thankfull for the years that we were together. She will be my biggest love whatever will happen further in live
Back then, i worked by BNN ( internet department / IT ), even we had no clue. Only a certain group knew about the actual outcome, but had to keep their mouths shut for obvious reasons ( i think they even had to sign a contract for that). We all watched the show, and i remember it like it was yesterday, when the final word came out, we all cheered extremely loud. The amount of positive reactions that we got was amazing. It was the best tv moment in history. Even on this day, Bart is still a legend that lives on forever.
I like him mentioning Barts’ sister and the Bart de Graaf foundation. They are both incredible. Miriam is just lovely and It is beautiful how she keeps Barts’ spirit alive. A small, minor addition: The foundation isn’t only for youngsters with physical disabilities. Also chronic illnesses. I was lucky enough to go through their very tough selection process in 2019 and start my own business with the help of this foundation. Any way possible they had my back. It gave me a very rare and beautiful opportunity.
I remembered this as if it was yesterday. I was disgusted at first, but they sure knew how to draw attention to a huge issue. I was about 26 years old and never gave becoming a donor much thought, but when I read about the hoax/message in the news, I became a donor that same day. I am still ashamed this show had to remind me that with such little effort, you could potentially have a huge impact on a person and his or hers family and friends. One thing I am pretty sure about: Bart would have loved this stunt!
Fun fact, Bart BOOS, was an amazing show Bart did in the 90's. He did all kinds of outrageous stuff, it was awesome! 😁 You should check it out. Hope you're doing well brother and have a great day. 😊🌷
I remember this show from 2007, and I remembered people discussed about it. But I din't remember all of it so I'm glad someone requested this vid it was hella interresting. I stayed stuck behind my screen the entire time ;) Man how genious this publicity stunt was, good thing it worked out and noone knew or had the impression some of them were actors.
Ooohhh yes, I still remember this show! The way they did it was soooooo great. Was in tears after the show. Also even now..... I'm a donor since 1982, it is sooo important.
I think that show was awesome , i would imagine a lot of people would enjoy being immortalized on TV and save a fellow human in the process , before they pass .
Bart was amazing, had the pleasure to meet him once and he was as "bart" irl as he was on TV. He actually became famous first as the face of Lu Bastogne commercials (if you don't know the brand, it is a cookie brand) with the catchphrase "Zeg maar nee, dan krijg je er twee... toegevallig" which translates to "if you say no, you get two... acutallylly" (not a typo) The sad thing about all of this is that we are now back at the levels of donors as we were when this show aired... it solved nothing. You know what that means right? people didn't take the time to fill out the donor form, but they sure made time to opt out.
There was an organ donor law before this show was broadcast and it helped to raise awareness for organ donation. Bart was a very special person, he dared to go where most would not have dared to go. BNN did the right thing, and yes most will argue it was unethical but they then missed the point of spreading awareness of the importance of organ donation. Since then the laws for organ donation have changed somewhat, atm it is an opt-out system. This means everyone is a possible organ donator after death unless you have opted out of that, there still are some exceptions to that but those are difficult to explain.
I am a donor since 2002. And I believe the programm did a lot for the final donor law. It took a while indeed, but in the end it worked. And by the way... why were you surprised? You should know the Dutch by now haha 😂😂
I’m a donor for 50 years now. A lot of people said to me that they would never be a donor but when I asked them if they would go on a donorlist if needed they said yes and then I called them hypocrites. At that moment they understood.✌️🇳🇱
It made us talk about if we wanted to donate our organs after our deaths. Not an easy thing to talk about with your family. What we decided is our personal decision
This was the best publicity stunt ever, I remember it well. Not only the Dutch press talked about it for weeks, even the international press did. BNN set this up so brilliantly. They asked themselves what Bart would have done and this was the perfect answer. When the law finally changed from opt-in to opt- out, it was due to one vote only. I’m quite sure Bart was looking down smiling that day.
I just started watching this and my jaw dropped to my chest . In every case, someone has to chose who lives - even if it is based on who is the best candidate.
We have this saying if something is really good "you can wake me in the middle of the night for that". Bart interviewed a lot of famous Dutch people and he would casually ask them what it was you could wake them up for in the middle of the night. Then a year or so later he would go there at 3-4 AM with whatever they said. Some were fun reactions, others were pissed off at him. :D Bart had brilliant shows.
Regarding your question at the end of the video. It's very easy to opt out if you want to. When you become 18 years old, you get a letter from the gouvernment. It explains that you automatically became a donor and also the importance of it. It also contains a form, with about four options. I forgot the exact phrasing, but it was something along the lines of: Opt in, opt in under specific circumstances, let your family decide or opt out. The form could be mailed back free of charge. If no form was received within a certain time period, they would assume you're in. And of course they would confirm your choice, to prevent misscommunication. You can also change your decission any time you want (digitally as well). Hope this answer your question.
I became a donor at the age of 12 after having lost both my grandmother and aunt due to kidney failure. Although I wasn't of age yet, so I doubt if it was even legal, I still filled in a donor codicil. And, though not necessary under the current law, I still carry that worn, nowadays barely readable, codicil in my wallet. I remember very well how shocked and appalled I was when first hearing about the show. But soon, I realised that Bart would never have agreed with this show being for real and that his coworkers, who had known him very well, also wouldn't. It just hád to be a publicity stunt, a cry out to the people and the government(s) to get their attention to the issue. And boy, did it work! Everybody talked about it, and inevitably also thought about it. I strongly believe that this show has woken up many people and contributed to getting the issue of donorship on the political agenda. And though it has taken many years of talk and debate in this consensus driven country, to get the opt-out donor law passed, I'm grateful it eventually did.
I am from the Netherlands, as are many of your views I'd assume. I had completely forgetton about this event and the controversy! Bart de Graaf was such a funny person, as a kid I rememered we'd gather around the television and laugh at whatever he did. His BNN channel aswell.. it was amazing! And now looking back at a channel like BNN, is that it was a channel that was not influenced by the governement and actually caused discussions.. Thank you for yet another video that tickles my nostalgia!
My best friend Rene gave his kidney to his best friend in 2009. Sadly, his friend passed away after 2,5 years. This was also on national TV and I posted it on my channel..
Absolutely effective. You see how you immediately become part of the discussion about an issue that we, at least most of us, feel unfomortable about. And when you don't want to be anything done than you need to be sure there is no discussion. BNN wanted to intensive the discussion about donating organs. After all, when most of us are in such situations we all wish there is a suitable donor available. The downside of the methode BNN had taken is that it's hard to repeat it for any other or same subject. But it was certainly effective Oooh btw.... This also is a proof that society benefits by having a tax payed broadcaster like the Dutch public television or international more famous the BBC. In a 100% commercial setting you will never be able to organize something like this. Because advertisers aren't much interested in sensitive matters. Public television can bring attention to matters that are important though uncomfortable. When you have only commercial outlets than you are creating a media landscape that will be disneyfised or worse... sugarcoated (aka beep America's media landscape that is beep beep terrible exhausting to consume)
I think you should have the following choice when you're 18: Do you want to be a donor recipient? Yes. Therefore you are a donor. And your family can't override your decision.
This was such a historical hoax. All the people expressing their “moral issues” were suddenly completely silenced. I’m sure this has contributed in a big way to changing our system from opt in to opt out. The way that BNN managed this was such an incredible way to remember Bart and confront people with reality. It may have taken 10 years but it sure contributed to a change of mind of the Dutch.
Besides obviously the ending, BNN is part of public broadcasting and don't directly make money from people viewing their shows. Public money does get allocated based on the number of members they have.
Because of that show finally a national discussion broke out register as a donor. Since a couple of years we have a law that you are automatically a donor from the age of 18 unless you say you don't want to. If you turn 18 you get a form. If you don't want to be a donor you fill in the form and send it back This all thanks to the show.
I don't even drive but still carry a donor card, pedestrians get killed out there too, and even the home and garden are not as safe as we think they are.. EVERYONE should have a donor card... just my 2 pennies worth
Bart was really innovative but sometimes honestly a bit much. Which comes with the territory. When I’ve heard about this show, I almost threw up. 🤮 We did not see the show. I just couldn’t. While it was a hoax and shocking, in the aftermath it was also very informative. Discussing donating, we became more aware of our choices. At that time, having some medical issues, I found out that you can choose what you want to donate after death and what not. Also that you can change your application as you grow older. I immediately registered as a donor. Thanks to BNN for not only waking me/us up, but also our politicians.
yea the dutch had a few channels that made you question them but i wont lie it was funny a.f. for example you see a child in africa starving... a fly lands obn its face 5 seconds later a flyswatter hitsw the kids face, its dry but dark
To be honest: I took myself off the donor list. Not because I hate people or whatever reason you think off, just because I want to have a say in who gets priority. I don't want a heavy drinker to get my kidneys over someone who has a disease. So as long as they don't add that choice, I won't add myself back onto that list.
@@PeterM_K No, I don't want someone to ruin my organs while someone who will appreciate them can have them. In the eyes of religious people, healthcare is already playing for God
It's always sad to see politicians refusing to improve the situation till they get embarrassed internationally by someone who shows current course isn't right. Sure this show was a hoax and might not have a permanent impact (or changes the way things go overnight) but it did give that push needed to get where we finally got. every country should use the opt-out method for donating, opting out still is a choice, but with the opt-out system at least you help people if you forgot to or had no time to register. We hear/read at least 50k donors registered after the show in NL, what was the impact beyond the borders? Afterall international news was all over it...
PS pointing the finger should not be at the show as they just drew attention to the problem but at the politicians (like the show did) who make the rules and actually have the power to change things, well... They did eventually... After 11 years...😒
It wasn't only just by one vote. The opt-out system only passed parliament because one member missed his train and thus couldn't vote. He would have voted in opposition, which would have resulted in an exact split vote and the proposal being rejected.
Ze verzaken alleen in de brief te vertellen wat er met je lichaam gebeurd nadat ze je organen verwijderd hebben, noch willen ze daarop in gaan als je ze daarnaar vraagt via de mail. Bovendien is die brief opgesteld als ware het een bestellijst van de slager. Dat is de reden dat ik nee heb gezegd: ze garanderen me niet dat ik netjes in de kist kom en spreken over lijken met minder respect dan voor een rund.
@@Treinbouwer Grof gezegd naaien ze je lichaam gewoon weer dicht nadat organen zijn verwijderd. Je wordt opgebaard, en komt gewoon netjes in de kist te liggen. Dat is anders wanneer je je lichaam voor onderzoek ter beschikking stelt. In dat geval is een begrafenis symbolisch, en wordt je werkelijke lichaam uiteindelijk anoniem gecremeerd.
@@Treinbouwer Dus? Het is nauwelijks meer een lichaam te noemen, jij komt nooit meer terug om hem te gebruiken dus dan kun je de onderdelen die nog nut hebben toch beter afstaan? Als familie je wil begraven of jij hebt dat in je testament, dan word je lichaam of je as aan je familie vrijgegeven nadat alles wat jij hebt aangevinkt als 'mag gepakt worden' er uit is gehaald. Wil je dat ze een gedicht schrijven met een wollige vraag over elk onderdeel of is een checklist handiger en dan kun jij alle complexiteit in je eigen hoofd afwegen? En wat boeit het hoe je in de kist ligt? Je bent te dood om er bij stil te staan op dat moment. En ja, jouw donatie zal veel betekenen voor de ontvangers, maar toen je in leven was had zeker niet iedereen respect voor je, na je dood gaat dat percentage nog enorm veel verder naar beneden. Wat kan het lijk van iemand die ik niet kende mij nou boeien? Het staat je vrij om niet te doneren, vind jouw redenen alleen bizar zwak.
@@TreinbouwerNadat er organen verwijderd zijn, gaat het lichaam naar het mortuarium en daarna wordt het overgedragen aan een begrafenisondernemer. Dat moet allemaal volgens de wet op de lijkbezorging.
Hard to get rid of the advertisements when what I do is a first time reaction. We don't do edits, so... Besides, I've turned down every sponsorship opportunity that has come through my e-mail. If it isn't a product that I believe in, I won't advertise for them. As far as the advertisements in other people's videos, I don't know they are there until we get there. 😂
