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How The Super Rich Avoid Taxes (Legally) 

Georg Rockall-Schmidt
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Here I'm going to briefly try and explain how some of the richest people in the world do their level-best to pay as little tax on their personal income and assets as possible, and how in the US that involves simply using the system as it is designed.
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@FREDSDEADBABE
@FREDSDEADBABE 3 года назад
At first, I missed Georg talking about horror movies but I realize now that his recent videos actually have more horrific subject matter than The Thing.
@l.e.b.3541
@l.e.b.3541 3 года назад
Yeah, the REAL Thing..
@Davethehedgehog
@Davethehedgehog 3 года назад
@@hithere3087 Did you really just delete all your replies? lol
@anonconspicuous6910
@anonconspicuous6910 3 года назад
@@Davethehedgehog that's what they do. Check out the simps for Jeff in the other comments. It's either sad, or hopefully these fools are just trolling.
@Davethehedgehog
@Davethehedgehog 3 года назад
​@@anonconspicuous6910 I think the former. Super edgy probably says the people complaining are just doing it because they're too stupid to be billionaires, unlike their superior arse, who chooses not be to be rich because they don't care about money. Then says they were just trollin' bro and there's nothing anybody can do to change it anyway because it's just the way things are.
@anonconspicuous6910
@anonconspicuous6910 3 года назад
@@Davethehedgehog LOL!!! You are correct. When I was a kid, I was always told "people my age don't want to work", and I vowed to never be like that. But employing Zoomers in my business has a 0% rate of hard workers. Maybe growing up with smart phones and social media makes zoomers lazy and lacking in work ethic? They would rather check their social media than do their jobs. But I've seen many boomers equally as lazy, as they refuse to learn anything new. What if Boomer taxes went only to support Zoomers and vise versa, and millennials taxes just went to supporting other millennials. We are the hardest working generation since the industrial revolution, and we have to work hard and we pay our taxes to support everyone else. It sucks being a middle class millennial, as we have to support everyone else. My $1,300 a month health insurance bill supliments all the bums on Medicaid. But since I'm middle class, I am screwed paying for everyone else. I wouldn't mind, if I could use the disability taxes I've been paying into since I was 14. But I'm not a sponge on the system, so I am forced to pay more taxes than the super rich and the bums who don't want to work. Even though I work 60+ hour work weeks with a maimed leg from an accident. What boomer or zoomer could lose half their leg and work over 60 hours a week? None that I know. They can't even show up for 20 hours a week.
@DP12321
@DP12321 3 года назад
Remember folks, legal doesn't mean moral or ethical.
@EthanHike
@EthanHike 3 года назад
Stole the words right out of my mouth
@Mariathinking
@Mariathinking 3 года назад
Shut up Meg.
@sevenproxies4255
@sevenproxies4255 3 года назад
Is taxation by force moral or ethical though?
@DP12321
@DP12321 3 года назад
@@sevenproxies4255 If it's by force, the answer is pretty clear.
@sevenproxies4255
@sevenproxies4255 3 года назад
@@DP12321 Well isn't all taxation done by force towards the unwilling? Just because you dress it up with the finery of court cases and lawyers duking it out, at the end of the day, the deal is still "pay taxes or we lock you up in prison". I would say that taxation would be more moral and ethical if the individual had the opportunity to opt out of tax funded services. For example if I told the government: "I don't want to use your schools, your tax funded health services, public roads, public parks, call the police if my life or property is in danger" and so on, and I could then sign away my tax paying responsibilities by also signing away my entitlements to tax funded services. One could no longer make the case that I'd be getting taxed by force. But no government on earth offer you this way out of taxes. These wealthy people could arguably afford their own services. They don't need publicly funded hospitals because they can afford to pay for private healthcare. They don't need police protection because they can purchase the services of private security firms. They don't need public schools because they can send their kids away to private schools and so on. In short, society wouldn't have to pay for ANY of their needs this way. So therefore it would no longer be reasonable or fair to force them to pay taxes. But since no government allows them out of it, and basically just view wealthy and successful people as cash cows to milk at the government's choosing, I can't say that I can blame the wealthy for exploiting legal loopholes to keep their money to themselves.
@dcfrank4904
@dcfrank4904 3 года назад
Human greed is really gobsmacking. I once stole 20 Euros from my dad, and I felt so ashamed that I could not sleep for a week, I ended up giving it back to him and confess what I had done, He just laughed but I was devastated to have done that. How are people able to sleep at night when to them, too much is not enough? I have no idea.
@Stevo_YouTube
@Stevo_YouTube 3 года назад
Psychopaths are incapable of empathy so they sleep just fine.
@user-et8vm9cc3t
@user-et8vm9cc3t 3 года назад
You've answered your own question yourself. "I *once* stole..."
@KarineAlourde
@KarineAlourde 3 года назад
The outro was top tier!! “Jeff it won’t make people love you” 😂😂😂😂
@spacebars9677
@spacebars9677 3 года назад
Omg, I didn’t expect to see you commenting on this side of RU-vid!
@defaultchannel733
@defaultchannel733 3 года назад
Millionaire entrepreneur born in 1964
@ViralKiller
@ViralKiller 3 года назад
It really isn't rocket science you just keep swapping money between subsidiary companies and expense everything, never technically being in profit
@aygwm
@aygwm 3 года назад
That’s way riskier than just stashing it in real estate
@musicnoonelikes
@musicnoonelikes 3 года назад
@@aygwm it's not risky if it's entirely legal? Like m8 if your lifestyle is that of always-being-at-work like crack head, then yeah i guess you should expense everything. you live at work.
@randomtinypotatocried
@randomtinypotatocried 3 года назад
Funny how if I try to get food stamps from the government, I'm asked to fill out information on all my assets including my car and it's retail value
@JayLeePoe
@JayLeePoe 3 года назад
I'm sorry, do you think these wealthy people don't have a detailed portfolio of their assets, values and depreciation? We're now blaming contemptible wealth celebrity for the bureaucracy of government. This is the laser focus of the audience as I scroll down.
@Ndasuunye
@Ndasuunye 3 года назад
But poor people don't have cars lol
@hahahah8711
@hahahah8711 2 года назад
@@JayLeePoe u should laser focus ur head with a red dot
@ArabicNameGuy
@ArabicNameGuy 3 года назад
this is why America has the following technical distinction: - if it's illegal, it's tax evasion - if it's legal, it's tax avoidance so named because of the "avoi dance" they do on us paupers' graves
@ozzyfozzy4261
@ozzyfozzy4261 3 года назад
Strong words...
@ultrademigod
@ultrademigod 3 года назад
Wise words...
@casbyness
@casbyness 3 года назад
Other countries use those two terms the same way, Georg is apparently just ignorant to the important difference and has conflated the terms in the video title.
@MiskonceptioN
@MiskonceptioN 3 года назад
I don't say "evasion", I say "avoision".
@ianlittle1653
@ianlittle1653 3 года назад
@@casbyness tax avoidance is just tax evasion for people who are rich enough for a good lawyer. That is why the "difference" between those two terms are completely irrelevant
@ImKibitz
@ImKibitz 3 года назад
The graph showing tax generated by source at 15:02 just absolutely blew me away. Incredible video!
@AlexFehrTheLoneWolf
@AlexFehrTheLoneWolf 3 года назад
"The Golden Rule, those with the Gold make the Rules"
@waterandafter
@waterandafter 3 года назад
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
@Hero101010
@Hero101010 3 года назад
Are you going to name them? 😂
@tonalddrump7168
@tonalddrump7168 3 года назад
@@waterandafter The game is rigged
@Fr3unen
@Fr3unen 3 года назад
Damm, thats a S-tier slogan.
@user-et8vm9cc3t
@user-et8vm9cc3t 3 года назад
Ha !
@buriedstpatrick2294
@buriedstpatrick2294 3 года назад
Important reminder that billionaires are not your friends. Quite the opposite.
@jthom0027
@jthom0027 3 года назад
I'd like to add, if you don't mind, that you will also never be a billionaire and most won't be millionaires either so stop licking them boots.
@johnm91326
@johnm91326 3 года назад
Most people you’ve never met or interacted with before are not your friends either dude.
@EditorialJoe
@EditorialJoe 3 года назад
@@johnm91326 yeah, I was going to say--the creatures that ruined my grocery store on Aramingo Avenue and the ones who block my path to the job I go to so that they can get their precious online-ordered crap they bought from Jeff Bezos (who they claim to hate) in a timely manner also aren't my friends, so I'm not sure this is a "wealth dependent" characteristic
@ieuanhunt552
@ieuanhunt552 3 года назад
It is impossible to get that rich without engaging in some pretty shady behaviour. Not only are billionaires not your friends you wouldn't want them to be. Most of them are sociopaths or close to it.
@bacelmir3522
@bacelmir3522 3 года назад
They literally want you dead or enslaved, especially if you're white and/or conservative (real conservative not Ben Shapiro muh free market bs)
@kildogery
@kildogery 3 года назад
"Bezos"is a character played by Kevin Spacey. FACT.
@tophers3756
@tophers3756 3 года назад
If he were younger and not black-balled, Spacey would be the only choice to play Bezos.
@KnuckleHunkybuck
@KnuckleHunkybuck 3 года назад
He already played him in Superman Returns.
@burningmisery
@burningmisery 3 года назад
@Paul Craig Astute observation. Now I can never unsee.
@trinidad17
@trinidad17 3 года назад
Kevin Spacey is a great actor, though, Bezos is just not one of his best roles, I blame bad direction and the man gets what he can now these days given the "situation" he's been facing.
@cookieface80
@cookieface80 3 года назад
"You have to pay tax" "WROOOONG"
@blacknapalm2131
@blacknapalm2131 3 года назад
03:55 *Streisand is one of the worlds leading proponents of OPEN BORDERS yet fought with the council for years to stop members of the public from walking on the beach below her gated beachfront mansion*
@trje246
@trje246 3 года назад
These figures are obscene. That ending was chillingly great
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 3 года назад
Obscene is how much our money is stolen by the government as “taxes”.
@MemoryVague
@MemoryVague 3 года назад
Big fan of this arc
@user-pj8zl4ex8o
@user-pj8zl4ex8o 3 года назад
Me too
@JollyWailmer
@JollyWailmer 3 года назад
Has anyone ever told you that you have an incredibly generic name?
@MoovySoundtrax
@MoovySoundtrax 3 года назад
"The only thing left to do with my money is go to outer space!" the man said, while standing on a planet where children were starving to death.
@daraghokane4236
@daraghokane4236 3 года назад
I want to live in a world without homeless or less fortunate that's not happening on earth soon let's go to mars won't have to look at them
@randomtinypotatocried
@randomtinypotatocried 3 года назад
I hope these billionaires get stranded in space
@muccmaster
@muccmaster 3 года назад
What's the point? Even if he donates his money to these countries the government will steal and misuse it. Look at China filling the pockets of various African leaders so they have access to their vast natural resources, yet these countries still stay dirt poor. The only way anything will ever change in these places is if the people overthrow their government and install a legitimate form of democracy.
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 3 года назад
Not possible to solve with biological humans.
@hannesjakobsson765
@hannesjakobsson765 3 года назад
@@muccmaster Stop blaming the victims. The thousands of children who starve to death every single day are not at fault. It's not their responsibilty to overthrow their government and establish democracy. They need help
@AlanGohel
@AlanGohel 3 года назад
Just when you think Georg can’t get more based, he simply does it anyway.
@Peroid000
@Peroid000 3 года назад
It would be based if he made videos about movies again.
@JayLeePoe
@JayLeePoe 3 года назад
@@Peroid000 based is now advocating for more taxation? Jesus, bootlicking is truly chic now.
@Peroid000
@Peroid000 3 года назад
@@JayLeePoe Bruh. I just want him to talk about die hard again.
@elias_xp95
@elias_xp95 3 года назад
@@JayLeePoe You're probably poor.
@JayLeePoe
@JayLeePoe 3 года назад
@@elias_xp95 hahaha you have a fucking graph as your avatar? _jesus bro, do you people follow a pattern or what?_
@RealVladSneed3
@RealVladSneed3 3 года назад
"I am Ozymandias. I AM THE GOLDEN GOD." Dennis Reynolds would like to have a word with you ... Jeff.
@JohnThelin
@JohnThelin 3 года назад
I really like the new direction this channel has taken. I was a fan before, but I am an ultra-fan now.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 года назад
So the only reason they have money is because of inheritance and infrastructure, but instead of paying into what they used, they hoard as much as possible to watch a ticker go up, on money they will never spend.
@vovin8132
@vovin8132 3 года назад
Wealth is limited; the more scarce it is, the more valuable and socially powerful it is. Those who hold a disproportionate amount of wealth over the masses are more socially powerful than the masses. They also largely dictate political affairs as well, particularly in regards to economics (which politics is essentially about, but I digress), despite not being elected in any elections. Think about it.
@arisukak
@arisukak 3 года назад
They don't hoard money. They invest it. They aren't scrooge mcduck with a vault in their house.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 года назад
@@arisukak "invest it" it's given to them as stock, that's investment in the most meaningless use of the term, it's equivalent of putting money in a savings account and claiming I'm an investor saving the economy. Not just that the stockmarket is internal, the last year has shown that, while the economy tanked, stock markets were doing records.
@jthom0027
@jthom0027 3 года назад
Pretty much sums up crony capitalism perfectly.
@GentlesirGibbles
@GentlesirGibbles 3 года назад
​@@arisukak They invest in stocks and furthering their own wealth. Not the communities. Generosity is an afterthought, with wealthy individual's philanthropy being used as primarily for tax deductions and PR purposes. Maybe some scrubbing away of the guilt too I.E Andrew Carnegie starting the Gospel of Wealth movement after a lifetime of encouraging Child Labor and reducing worker wages.
@matth7108
@matth7108 3 года назад
I love you Georg Rockall-Schmidt. Thank you for making this Friday evening so much better!
@SplendidCoffee0
@SplendidCoffee0 3 года назад
"Number One: In 1945, corporations paid 50% of federal taxes; now they pay about 5%. Number Two: In 1900, 90% of Americans were self employed; now it's about 2%... It's called consolidation; strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes, this can be done imperceptibly over time." -Leo Gold, Deus Ex
@phunkracy
@phunkracy 3 года назад
Blackpilled deus ex
@phunkracy
@phunkracy 3 года назад
I recommend video "deus ex drops redpills"
@emmanuelchavez7748
@emmanuelchavez7748 3 года назад
Black pilled again 😔
@ryanellis7842
@ryanellis7842 3 года назад
Those numbers are completely fabricated. I’m a tax policy expert.
@SplendidCoffee0
@SplendidCoffee0 3 года назад
@@ryanellis7842 this game came out 20 years ago and takes place in 2052. Also, while the numbers aren’t exact, it is still a mostly realistic approach to it.
@JonnyBefull
@JonnyBefull 3 года назад
The common arguement of "why should you tax success?" is such horse shit. We're only asking that: A) they pay what's due and others have to. B) maybe individuals having more wealth than a lot of countries is a bad thing?
@MB-st7be
@MB-st7be 3 года назад
They do pay what's due, that's why they don't go to jail for it. And it's not a bad thing. BIll Gates is pretty much bankrolling the whole anti-malaria effort. Imagine what the government would spunk that money on instead.
@bacelmir3522
@bacelmir3522 3 года назад
I don't care that they have wealth, I care that they use it to subvert and destroy the civilization in which I grew up and am currently seeing collapse in the name of some evil globalist experiment.
@pw1169
@pw1169 3 года назад
A) They pay more absolute tax than anyone else. eg Bezos paid around 1b in tax last year. Isn't that enough? How greedy are you? B) You would trust a government more than someone who has created a successful business with that wealth?
@kman9884
@kman9884 3 года назад
It’s because rich person shills think they have a chance of making it big, when really they have more in common with a homeless drug addict than a billionaire.
@MB-st7be
@MB-st7be 3 года назад
@@kman9884 Who has more control over your life, Bezos or the IRS?
@jeffreytooms2965
@jeffreytooms2965 2 года назад
Today (3 Oct '21) everyone is going mental over news coverage of the Pandora Papers, I've been only mildly surprised because this video explained the super-rich's tax shell games so well nearly three full months ago. You always inform, entertain, and make me think. Keep up the great work. PS my best to Jumbo, I haven't heard from him in a bit.
@henryglennon3864
@henryglennon3864 3 года назад
How do the super rich avoid taxes? They invest all their money in lava lamps and Hiptang.
@sticklebacketienne
@sticklebacketienne 3 года назад
Loving the new direction of these videos old mate. Really interesting, you’re like if Tom Scott went to a state school.
@freedomfirst5557
@freedomfirst5557 3 года назад
I worked for the IRS for twelve years, out of the thousands of tax returns that included rental income, I never saw a SINGLE one that made money, not one penny. They always say that they operate at a loss. Some operated their rental units for fifteen or ten years without making any money at all, but they won't get audited, only the lower end of the middle class get audited. What? You thought America was any different than many countries?
@tree_eats
@tree_eats 2 месяца назад
The middle class is defined by home ownership, which includes disgusting parasite landlords.
@suimeingwong2043
@suimeingwong2043 3 года назад
There's a reason the ultra wealthy are trying to get to space.
@KnuckleHunkybuck
@KnuckleHunkybuck 3 года назад
In space, no one can hear you pay...
@fantasticnisopta
@fantasticnisopta 3 года назад
@@KnuckleHunkybuck no one can make you pay
@Ralndrath
@Ralndrath 3 года назад
Old Zuckerberg looks like he's from Innsmouth at times, I swear.
@Ragnarok540
@Ragnarok540 3 года назад
If by "at times" you mean all the time, I agree.
@mojotheaverage
@mojotheaverage 3 года назад
Sold his soul to Dagon. It's the only theory that fits
@jacksonvega7751
@jacksonvega7751 3 года назад
As does Jeff really....., and Elon....,,, oh wait a sec......
@oleksijm
@oleksijm 2 года назад
Lizard
@christopher6547
@christopher6547 3 года назад
Maybe they're just saving up to build a nice opera house in Cleveland or something.
@anonconspicuous6910
@anonconspicuous6910 3 года назад
Opera house in Cleveland? My experience in Cleveland was riddled with mugging and violence on the streets in broad daylight. But the opera house would close, and they could claim debt
@Arkantos117
@Arkantos117 3 года назад
We talking Cleveland UK or USA?
@andy86i
@andy86i 3 года назад
I always feel sophisticated when I watch a Rockall-Schmidt video
@Drewsel
@Drewsel 3 года назад
It's like subscribing to some posh newspaper.
@earlthepearl6414
@earlthepearl6414 3 года назад
Georg is the man!
@simondaniel4028
@simondaniel4028 3 года назад
Been watching a lot of these vids lately going even a few years back. Great stuff here. The presentation is slick, too. Dig the set.
@hamdy-man2237
@hamdy-man2237 3 года назад
It sucks that informative content is buried in the current state of RU-vid. Great video
@chenzenzo
@chenzenzo 3 года назад
Been waiting with bated breathe (and sheer terror) to see the next upload. While I very much enjoy your criticism of films, it's your takes on culture and cult of personality that I live for. Cheers!
@taboletka
@taboletka 3 года назад
Kudos for including Poroshenko! I'm from Ukraine and it's baffling how it's still not talked about enough. People keep reminiscing about the good old days under the rich bastard who still monopolizes the confectionery market here
@WIImotionmasher
@WIImotionmasher 3 года назад
finally someone covered this on youtube, and one of the best video essay channels no less. I genuinely haven't seen people talk about this much over the years. But it's also widely reported in more academic/economics circles
@Geoff900
@Geoff900 3 года назад
Remember the workers who work for Amazon, Virgin, Facebook, MS, Apple, Tesla, Dyson etc have to pay tax...even on bonuses.
@LordmonkeyTRM
@LordmonkeyTRM 3 года назад
Tax avoidance is only acceptable above a certain income threshold
@heavysystemsinc.
@heavysystemsinc. 3 года назад
That plays into all kinds of other justice...there's justice for most people and then the slap on the wrist for the people that can pay lawyers to muddy the waters and dilute the charges. "Oh, a $100,000 fine for the negligence of my company that resulted in 3 deaths and 24 permanent injuries?" vs. "Triple life sentence for stabbing a cop in the butt cheek while they were wrongfully detaining you and were literally beating you up in the process."
@JayLeePoe
@JayLeePoe 3 года назад
often with reason, being that above a threshold-- said person is actually stimulating the economy enough to catch the vip badge. Or should be. Mostly it's fealty to the industrial war machine and once you pay enough dues then we can say you're caught up and not worth the shake as much as keeping others in line, what don't even have aspirations of paying back colossal loans of millions, if they can even afford a home anymore.
@HassanSra
@HassanSra 2 года назад
@@JayLeePoe What the fuck are you talking about
@mat5267
@mat5267 Год назад
Tax avoidance is only economical after a certain threshold. You need lawyers and accountants to make it work. If you make bellow a certain threshold, the cost off tax avoidance becomes higher than paying the tax itself.
@Drewsel
@Drewsel 3 года назад
Is it bad I knew that was Barb's mansion before he said anything?
@tophers3756
@tophers3756 3 года назад
Barb thanks you. She says she'd love for you to write her about your impressions.
@jnnx
@jnnx 3 года назад
Yes.
@AstroflipRecordings
@AstroflipRecordings 3 года назад
Legend says he's still saying Jeff...
@Otochiro1
@Otochiro1 3 года назад
Jeff
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9809
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9809 3 года назад
This is a great video as always but, like most discussions about this subject matter, I think something really basic has been missed. *"How much money does Bezos really need?"* For people like Bezos, Musk, Arnault etc. the almost pathological desire to retain their assets and finance any expenditures through debt really comes from the desire to retain control over their respective companies. *"If Bezos payed 50% of his entire wealth in tax he would still have $100 billion."* Yes, but his stake in Amazon would fall to around 5%, which has the potential to erode his tangible control of Amazon. The same is true for Musk, Arnault and any other wealthy individual who's net worth is derived largely from a single source. The money is incidental. The power is everything.
@dropit7694
@dropit7694 3 года назад
That’s his personal wealth, not his majority stake in Amazon. Additionally, he could change Amazon to provide better salaries for low wage employees with the control he has, why doesn’t he?
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9809
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9809 3 года назад
@@dropit7694 He probably should. My point was only that the wealthy hang onto assets because of the control it gives them, incidental to the money itself.
@oxymoron02
@oxymoron02 3 года назад
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9809 Your point was refuted with an accurate counterpoint, though.
@newerstillimproved
@newerstillimproved 3 года назад
@@dropit7694 He has a majority stake in Amazon? I see about 10%. 60% are institutional investors, amongst them quite possibly your pension fund.
@tophers3756
@tophers3756 3 года назад
Unfortunately, in America getting out of paying taxes is down right patriotic.
@Whiteboykun
@Whiteboykun 3 года назад
You said 'unfortunately' but the adjective you were looking for is 'based' or possibly 'fucking based'
@dropit7694
@dropit7694 3 года назад
@@Whiteboykun having to pay for your own basic education, roads, firefighters, street lights would not be very based unless you were a medieval peasant
@Leon_der_Luftige
@Leon_der_Luftige 3 года назад
@@Whiteboykun Why do you talk like a 13 year old?
@Whiteboykun
@Whiteboykun 3 года назад
@@Leon_der_Luftige I like your username it really emphasizes your missing chromosomes
@pretorious700
@pretorious700 3 года назад
Considering the tax code and how it is distorted, yes, it is.
@artemismoonbow2475
@artemismoonbow2475 3 года назад
I know everyone in their mother's loves to reference 1984, but I love that it is a three class system where the psychological horrors are reserved for the middle-class, the "Outer Party." They pay the most and they are the linch pin of the whole thing but and completely controlled psychologically. Change will not come from them. The Proles suffer materially, but they are free of Big Brother, but have to put up with random goon squads. The Inner Party can pretty much do what they want, but they are trapped in a monstrous system of their own creation. As Orwell says in the novel, "If there is to be any hope for the world, it lays with the Proles." Funny that right-wingers like to claim a Socialist writer as their own.
@vitorafmonteiro
@vitorafmonteiro Год назад
The problem is people keep thinking of writers and other influences as "ours" or "theirs", as ammunition or even dead soldiers, in a culture war. People like Orwell are quite heterodox, I am not surprised much of his writing strikes a chord with non-leftists (and honestly a lot of leftists need to lie to themselves too to pretend they are anything in line with Mr. Eric Blair), but I think most people stick with his anticommunism and non-marxism and little else. Honestly, right-wingers becoming more heterodox and absorbing in earnest some Orwell would be quite healthy to politics, but they barely go beyond reading/repeating his jabs at "commies"
@Billy-Blaze
@Billy-Blaze 2 года назад
Damn, I remember first watching him for his movie rants and reviews so many yaers ago, now I'm all for anything Georg will create, hope He makes a video on the Pandora Papers
@MeanMrMustard85
@MeanMrMustard85 3 года назад
It really makes you sick doesn’t it: To think of how hard a lot of us work, while getting our mostly humble salary’s squeezed for all they’re worth by the taxman………Then these bastards on the other hand get to have their cake and eat it as the rest of us fight over the crumbs.
@Leon_der_Luftige
@Leon_der_Luftige 3 года назад
All people who are called Jeff probably developed some psychotic disorder at the end of the video.
@GeoffWilde
@GeoffWilde 3 года назад
Can confirm. :(
@jonathanthompson3634
@jonathanthompson3634 3 года назад
Love all your videos n podcasts Georg, keep them coming please, I've clicked the like button on every single on of your videos...Most even before I've even watched the video itself because I know it's gona deserve that 'like'
@jacquiecotillard9699
@jacquiecotillard9699 3 года назад
Loving this analysis series. And the podcast, film pieces, the whole back catalog. Any day is a good day to slap on those Boisterous Hosen and take command
@dustin628
@dustin628 3 года назад
This is so upsetting. So the payroll people know, your employer pays half your taxes. Your taxes are pretty much double what you pay. That was a shock when I started my own business. The irs wants 15 percent on 30k... that's 4500
@madman407708
@madman407708 3 года назад
Hopefully he stays in space on that cute little toy rocket he built all by himself
@anonconspicuous6910
@anonconspicuous6910 3 года назад
There are no taxes in space. Claim the moon as your business headquarters and primary residence. No tax payments necessary. This guy is is playing 4D chess with tax evasion.
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 3 года назад
Not in a suborbital.
@francis6775
@francis6775 3 года назад
Plus, at 17:45, there's a poem the Jez would be proud of
@pastlesandfish
@pastlesandfish 3 года назад
If he goes to space I hope he has a one way ticket.
@PoptartParasol
@PoptartParasol 3 года назад
@@pastlesandfish and no phone
@saml302
@saml302 3 года назад
love that you can't criticize billionaires without a bunch of Tyler Durden wannabes coming along talking about grit n shit
@henryjones8287
@henryjones8287 3 года назад
Plastic libertarian silly billies
@Thebabybadass101
@Thebabybadass101 3 года назад
Georg I’m really loving how your channel in the time I’ve been subscribed has gone from film analysis to exposing the ruling class
@tylerlunn5504
@tylerlunn5504 3 года назад
I've been liking these videos lately 😁
@pthomasgarcia
@pthomasgarcia 3 года назад
Georg is Jeff's sleep paralysis demon
@gowkie3940
@gowkie3940 3 года назад
Ultra rich people sure look tasty
@headsworthtg3585
@headsworthtg3585 3 года назад
as a connoisseur of such cuisine, I recommend consuming them alongside Szechuan sauce
@arempy5836
@arempy5836 3 года назад
@@headsworthtg3585 Hello Reddit
@headsworthtg3585
@headsworthtg3585 3 года назад
@@arempy5836 Hello there -Obi Wan Kenobi
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 3 года назад
You sure look poor.
@CornvilleCorrections
@CornvilleCorrections 3 года назад
David Bahnsen was just on podcast talking about the complexities of the tax code. Now I'm going to have to listen to that podcast again and watch this again. It seems like you've been taking on spicier commentary lately, but I find it's always very measured and never unkind. This is a woefully unappreciated channel.
@CornvilleCorrections
@CornvilleCorrections 3 года назад
@@russell-jaygould.8625Haaa! That would also make for an interesting video. Enjoy your Sunday, looking forward to seeing your film.
@munsunsnight
@munsunsnight 3 года назад
Great episode, loved the ending.
@ludone8067
@ludone8067 3 года назад
More videos about evil rich people 😈😈
@jimstanley_49
@jimstanley_49 3 года назад
What I can't stand is when people try to make things fairer by taxing bonuses, for instance. At my < $40k job when I get the corporate memo about how well the company did this year. It's always fun to add up the number of hours that will be in my profit-sharing check. "Hmm, that's about ... $500," I think to myself. Then I look at the deposit of $320 and wonder what I'm doing wrong as part of the 1%. I mean, it seems like they have more disposable income and don't have to live in shitty cracker-box apartments. Or how the government put a cap on salaries, so companies started adding health insurance to attract employees. Now healthcare has been woven into some kind of nightmare tapestry of employers and insurance companies--all because someone thought they could make things MoRe FaAaAiIrR.
@JayLeePoe
@JayLeePoe 3 года назад
this dude is advocating for paying taxes on stuff you already bought and paid taxes on, thrice over. He wants a 4th tax. For owning shit that you already have. That's the math being encouraged here by Georgy. You can't just pay $455M or 30% on your $1.52B yearly earnings; _you must pay for that $15B you already earned and paid for! It's not like sales, property, gas and other taxes exist on top of income taxes._
@jimstanley_49
@jimstanley_49 3 года назад
@@JayLeePoe exactly. I'm just trying to bring up the law of unintended consequences. It seems that every. Single. Time. Someone comes up with a new scheme to get more money from the ultra-rich, they can't fathom that anyone might change their behavior, or how this will actually affect regular people too. Then you end up with some restaurant owner who wants to give his employees an extra $100 after a good quarter, or whatever, and they only take home $65 because "only wealthy CEOs make bonuses." Aside from the disproportionate power large sums of money can have in politics, I don't care that Jeff has more money than he can spend in 5 lifetimes. This sort of imbalance tends to take care of itself after three generations. Either it's invested wisely and contributes to the economy, or it's squandered. Either way, the government will take it's bites over the next 100+ years. And whether the regular people are building a super-mega-yacht complete with runway for business jets for Jeff's grandson, or employed at a startup he helped finance, the money gets spread around.
@JayLeePoe
@JayLeePoe 3 года назад
@@jimstanley_49 They simply want to make it harder and harder to accumulate wealth. for anyone. The trends are towards you not owning the things you own. Right To Repair goes across all industries, farmers to apple tech. It's from all sides; the gold standard has long been used to keep "lesser" regions in perpetual usury. You don't own the electronic products you buy online, you're subscribed to a service that allows you to access content you've paid for, very much like a product that you, once, simply owned outright. It's the biggest backlash to Internet piracy that gets hardly a sniffle. How much wood pulp can we put in this until it's no longer considered a true food product? Home ownership? I'm sorry pal but you need to afford the new tax for owning a house. Property tax? No, the other one that essentially doubles the cost of home ownership... for the generation with the least likelihood to ever own their own home. Yup. Sounds good. Soon we can just lease property from the government just like they do with The CCP. No property rights!
@yxolloxy3273
@yxolloxy3273 3 года назад
Love the nod to the streisand effect
@Pancakegr8
@Pancakegr8 3 года назад
The take away for me is that too much wealth is a disease, and should be viewed in the same light that people today view the poor: undesirable.
@TheHangedMan
@TheHangedMan 3 года назад
Remember when George used to talk about movies?
@CybershamanX
@CybershamanX 3 года назад
JEFF
@toppersundquist
@toppersundquist 3 года назад
JEFF
@toppersundquist
@toppersundquist 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0OzXZGA1k3s.html
@jeffhiggins4478
@jeffhiggins4478 3 года назад
As a dude named Jeff, the last minute or so of this video actually triggered an existential crisis. Thanks. Great video though.
@TheJayman213
@TheJayman213 3 года назад
If you have to sell your labor power to afford food and housing, you have to accept unfair deals. You have to be willing to get ripped of, i.e. for the things you end up buying to be worth less than the labor power you started out with. If you invest money in raw materials and labor power to sell the resulting products for a profit, you're setting out to make unfair deals. You're trying to end up with something quantitatively more valuable than you started out with (a profit). Whereas your workers are just trying to end up with something qualitatively different from what they started out with and have to be willing to get ripped off to get it in order to survive.
@MrVos-mh7qo
@MrVos-mh7qo 3 года назад
Based
@isawadelapradera6490
@isawadelapradera6490 3 года назад
transformation of goods is an inherent increase in value I.E.: a plate of spaghetti composed of 100g of wheat and 10g of tomato is inherently more valuable than the raw ingredients. While investment deserves a profit, it's unfair to say that "low labor" is not productive and only transformative: transformation of wealth is increase in wealth. Whereas investing in a plot of land and a bunch of bricks takes you nowhere without the labor to turn them into a building. Those in investing positions set out to "make unfair deals" only because the imbalanced positions of power created by their wealth. Those in "low labor" positions have to accept being "ripped off" only because they start off in a position of relatively low power. Modern capitalism is to economy what the feudal dark ages were to politic power: the powerful use their power to reinforce their power over those without.
@JohnTaylor-fh4et
@JohnTaylor-fh4et 3 года назад
It's time to eat the Rich, remember to say grace. Manners.
@longliverocknroll5
@longliverocknroll5 3 года назад
Do I say it on the way in, or on the way out? I feel the way out would be sufficiently graceful to these monsters.
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 3 года назад
You’re just big mad that they’re better people than you ever will be.
@longliverocknroll5
@longliverocknroll5 3 года назад
@@seanwieland9763 Ah yes, such geniuses that were able to *checks notes* realize that people would buy shit online lmfao
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 3 года назад
@@longliverocknroll5 obviously people value that very highly. That’s precisely what the price signals are saying.
@JohnTaylor-fh4et
@JohnTaylor-fh4et 3 года назад
@@seanwieland9763 brainwashed much buddy. Rich & poor are fine, but at these levels of inequality its bordering on grotesque at this point.
@hjge1012
@hjge1012 3 года назад
It's gif, not jeff.
@plk173
@plk173 3 года назад
im honestly impressed he managed to play the intro to paradise city in its original and it didnt get flagged. 1:15 to 2:15
@tronn_carter
@tronn_carter 3 года назад
This was terrifying.. bravo & well done
@guypierson5754
@guypierson5754 3 года назад
This is a story I love. Man builds himself an audience on bullshit podcasts and movie reviews. Once he has it tho, he starts this campaign he's on. Much respect from all us plebs to you Georg, when we come for the aristo's heads, I'll make sure we get you last.
@Leon_der_Luftige
@Leon_der_Luftige 3 года назад
Bezos always looks like a lunatic.
@apotato6278
@apotato6278 3 года назад
@@LeeThomas1 In space nobody can hear your stomach growl.
@Muskateering
@Muskateering 3 года назад
Ok, the ending was one of the scariest fucking thing's I've ever seen ha ha 😆
@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond 3 года назад
I challenge you to find a picture, let alone a video of Germany's richest man, Dieter Schwarz who is worth roughly 40 to 50 billion €. Germany's super wealthy are so shy they made the people forget that they exist. Perfect strategy for never being harrassed with taxes or anything disturbing their circles.
@ravenlord4
@ravenlord4 3 года назад
I guess the simple solution would be to tax any loan that is secured by a non-taxable asset. If you have $100M in stock and need $50M in liquidity, then sell half the stock and take the tax hit. Or if you really want to keep all of your stock, then sure -- take a $50M loan but tax that as income. Of course that will never happen short of an all out peasant revolt complete with torches and pitchforks, but it is fun to chat about :)
@doctaflo
@doctaflo 3 года назад
they’ll just move to Branson’s private island
@newerstillimproved
@newerstillimproved 3 года назад
Wouldn't that apply to loans taken out with your house as a security?
@ravenlord4
@ravenlord4 3 года назад
@@newerstillimproved Depends upon the jurisdiction. My experience has been that most (or at least many) places assess an annual property tax on residential housing, scaled upon that year's market value. But sure -- if you are some kind of housing guru who owns 10 houses worth $1M each, and you need $2M in liquidity, and those houses are not taxed, then you bet -- either sell 2 of them for the cash and take the tax hit, or keep them all and take a $2M loan that is taxable as income.
@newerstillimproved
@newerstillimproved 3 года назад
@@ravenlord4 The annual property tax is one thing, but there is usually also a capital gains tax on the house, if you sell it for more than you bought it. But that latter tax is only due once you sell it, also if it's the only house you own. Actual rates depend on the income, how long you had the house, etc....
@ravenlord4
@ravenlord4 3 года назад
@@newerstillimproved Ah -- for people who only have a single house, then yes -- tax a loan against a house that is fully owned, or against equity on a mortgage, and adjust it against the current ongoing property tax. It is disposable income at that point after all, and you have the additional benefit of most mortgage payments being tax deductible on top of that already. Think of the loan as selling the house (or a percentage of the equity) to a creditor, but he sells it back to you later instead of keeping it or selling it to someone else.
@daviidon
@daviidon 3 года назад
You're a bit disingenuous when you conflate wealth with income and revenue with profit. To pay 50% of his wealth as tax, Bezos would need to give the government 50% of his stake in Amazon every year until his net worth is below 500k. So you want the government to force him to give up control of the company he founded. Who would incorporate in the US under these conditions?
@GrandpasPlace
@GrandpasPlace 3 года назад
I would say he is ether disingenuous or he does not understand how money works. Wait till he finds out some people have millions or even billions in Roth IRA's and when they retire they get the money at 0 taxes.
@enkimerlin3209
@enkimerlin3209 3 года назад
I wonder what would happen if a common person tried to do these things to "evade" tax
@sandwitht6264
@sandwitht6264 3 года назад
i really appreciate your sarcasm throughout the videos when you are mocking these people. very pleasant to watch. thanks for the thoughtful video essays. this is top notched
@TrixiLovesYou
@TrixiLovesYou 3 года назад
Funny how all he can think of to do with his wealth is "go to space" when he could, I don't know, invest in something to get rid of the plastic shit in oceans.
@earlthepearl6414
@earlthepearl6414 3 года назад
I want to fight Mark Zuckerberg in a cage match!
@hazardeur
@hazardeur 3 года назад
i'd just put in a hungry Jaguar instead of myself. Or maybe just a mountain lion to prolong Zucks suffering a bit.
@Ferdinand208
@Ferdinand208 3 года назад
Should prizes of goods and services be a percentage of your income and wealth? So you pay $5 for a hamburger and a banker with wealth pays $500 When you save money by not buying a new car and not eating out every day, should prices of goods and services rise in cost because you have more wealth? When you work hard at your career and steadily rise in pay, should prices of goods and services rise in cost because you have more income? Does the government provide you with more services or better services when you pay more taxes?
@k.rahimi4969
@k.rahimi4969 3 года назад
Currently sleep deprived, gotta say that outro has otherworldly vibes to it
@realGBx64
@realGBx64 3 года назад
If you have a house, and there is a boom in the housing market so your house is worth 2x what it was worth last year, would you like to pay taxes on that worth increase if you haven’t sold your house?
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 года назад
What are you even trying to say? The answer would be pay your fair share. That house only has that value due to the infrastructure surrounding it.
@realGBx64
@realGBx64 3 года назад
@@Alex-cw3rz “fair share” is not objective but personal opinion. I am trying to say that the increase of value of stocks you hold is not profit, same as the increase of value of your house. You shouldn’t pay tax on either. Pay tax on the profit you make when you sell.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 года назад
@@realGBx64 no it's very objective in fact, they need to pay enough for what they've used and investment for the future simple as that. okay yeah it's different to normal way a business runs, by the fact you did nothing to cause the growth. But that's like saying nothing should be taxed because inflation will cause a raise that was nothing to do with increased profit.
@realGBx64
@realGBx64 3 года назад
@@Alex-cw3rz yeah well, the government prints money that destroys the value of the currency, and then taxes you on that difference doesn’t seem fair to me in any way shape or form. Your definition of “fair” is still just super subjective. Because in my book, they put in the investment for the future up front, they increased the value of the asset by making it more efficient and productive, so actually they made things better in totality.
@tree_eats
@tree_eats 2 месяца назад
@@realGBx64 Shares provide dividends, you fucking idiot.
@Krooksbane
@Krooksbane 3 года назад
Say it with me folks, Capitalism. This is the kind of incentives that capitalism produces, people always trying to cut corners to maximize profits for themselves. Disagree with alternative systems all you want to, but at least understand the core of the problem before you reflexively defend it.
@trinidad17
@trinidad17 3 года назад
Greed vs mass genocide, though choice, do I get to be in the ruling party?
@tree_eats
@tree_eats 2 месяца назад
@@trinidad17 Capitalism has been the root of global war and genocide for at least the past 100 years.
@nklin6
@nklin6 3 года назад
why do all the billionares look like they are aliens in a human body trying to imitate a real human
@burner9147
@burner9147 3 года назад
they really do
@jameskresl
@jameskresl 2 года назад
Americans do pay taxes on shares they are given by their companies as compensation. They don't pay taxes on the subsequent value appreciation until they sell.
@spa-peggymeatballs4861
@spa-peggymeatballs4861 3 года назад
You know what I think is ironic? And maybe I’m being idealistic here, but you know how all these insanely rich people do a lot of blabbing about how they are making the world a better place? Well if they actually paid their taxes, that money might actually make the world a better place. This actually makes my stomach hurt.
@xne14gax26
@xne14gax26 3 года назад
Now if we could only get our tax money to be spent on us instead of sending $10,000,000 a day to israel.
@oxymoron02
@oxymoron02 3 года назад
Ah cool, another person who has heard shit on fox news and automatically believed it.
@xne14gax26
@xne14gax26 3 года назад
@@oxymoron02 Ah yes, anti-Israel fox news
@matt_cummins28
@matt_cummins28 3 года назад
Another cracking video, Sir.Thank you.
@albedoshader
@albedoshader 3 года назад
For those who missed Barbara Streisand’s house, please go to 3:55 and tell your friends about it.
@casbyness
@casbyness 3 года назад
How do the super-rich avoid taxes? Easy. Hundreds of people are drawn to them like moths to a flame, begging to be put in charge of various aspects of the super-rich person's life, promising that they can enrich the super-rich person even more in exchange for taking a relatively small cut of the wealth. Bezos isn't some kind of lone supervillain. As soon as his fortune became significant, an army of accountants and investors arrived on his doorstep explaining that they could keep the tax man at bay in exchange for payment for their knowledge and services. Why do you think PewdiePie moved to the UK? Why do so many Hollywood movies get filmed in the UK, in exchange for so many Hollywood leads being English? I would much rather have the world's economy being shaped by the driven, ultra-competitive corrupt egomaniacs of the private sector than the lazy, complacent, braindead and infinitely wasteful forces of government administration.
@eatmanyzoos
@eatmanyzoos 3 года назад
im pretty sure all of them are lazy and complacent. i went to a rich school as a poor person and i watched all these rich kids build fortunes by having support of people who share your philosophy and i guess not care about everyone who need help? they think its a dog eat dog world and then you listen to baseless claims that somehow the government that put all the engineers to work in the 40s and 50s and made this country what it is are the problem but people like ronald reagan who lie to voters tell them hes religious and close all the mental hospitals (where do you think all those old homeless people came from?) are heroes. even though the math clearly showed he fucked up this country. that everyone here wanted al gore as president. that people had to be divided and filled with fake patriotism to be convinced the war on terror wasnt to secure oil in the middle east and help out the right wing's friends in saudi arabia you know the place that harbors bin laden and had to be killed by the democratic president because bush wanted bin laden. just like the gop wanted the paris attacks so they can claim immigration is an issue. all the people there were organized citizens. youre being played like a fiddle.
@casbyness
@casbyness 3 года назад
@@eatmanyzoos You claim to disagree with me, but then cite a long list of government and public sector failures as your evidence, reconfirming my point. You realise Reagan was public sector, right? It is a dog eat dog world. One aspect of this is the smaller dogs trying to trick the bigger dogs into becoming smaller, because the smaller dogs want a better chance at eating those bigger dogs.
@eatmanyzoos
@eatmanyzoos 3 года назад
@@casbyness its the same philosophy that the super rich have. theyd feel the same way they were poor. in fact they see us all as one big dog and are bitter and resentful even though they have everything they need. there is no reason the billionares need all that money. its just so easy to them and thats all their good at. all these billionaires have no real friends and are miserable. they have to take acid every day to believe they are operating on a higher level. ive taken plenty of acid and it just showed me how we are all the same and they are no more qualified to run companies than i am. someone who would have the same salary as their employees because id make companies for the positive impact. id be able to if monopoly laws were useless because of citizens united, you know the libertarian wet dream .
@trinidad17
@trinidad17 3 года назад
@@eatmanyzoos Because the government does care about helping people, right? Pay your taxes, plebes, and now that we paid money that some random politicians are going to waste, let's avoid all personal responsibility to help the people in need, pretending we actually already did something useful.
@PoptartParasol
@PoptartParasol 3 года назад
Yes yes, I would perfer ego maniacs with no regard for human life who bank on the firther exploitation and sickness of the people they leech off of and treat like dirt than people with a strong moral compass, strong beliefs in the self sufficiency of a country and people as well as hold great care for their education and health. Between those two the first sounds the most appealing! Seriously... you're brain is rotten
@NASkeywest
@NASkeywest 3 года назад
Imagine how many “PIZZA PARTIES” 🤫, you can buy for 1 billion. Much less, 99 Billion……👹
@KnuckleHunkybuck
@KnuckleHunkybuck 3 года назад
Goddamnit. Gross.
@nixonstrmelj7092
@nixonstrmelj7092 3 года назад
Great video. But TBH I prefer your old ambient soundtrack. It was like the musical equivalent of the lava lamp.
@baldinggrey5368
@baldinggrey5368 3 года назад
A very well argued essay. Stocks and other non-liquid assets should be taxed if used as collateral for loans. I really wonder what percentage the uber rich would actually be willing to pay without resorting to some sort of trickery. They do care about their image and at least to some degree after all. It has to be said though that it is by no means only the rich who try to avoid taxes, I know plenty of people who do undeclared work on the side as handymen or carpenters. Sure, they are by no means rich and it makes much more of a difference in their lives but it is not like they would be starving and homeless if they declared that income. Hell, I have done that, too, when I was a student.
@kildogery
@kildogery 3 года назад
"Commie scum!" More power to you, comrade.
@ApocDevTeam
@ApocDevTeam 3 года назад
People are still like "why is the middle class dying?"
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 3 года назад
Wealth is never a zero-sum game. Taxes destroy wealth.
@TruthSword7
@TruthSword7 3 года назад
This is really scary. The only thing scarier would be to consider what the government would do with all the extra money if these guys actually paid taxes.
@Zwickerly2
@Zwickerly2 3 года назад
That's the great thing! They could lower everyone else's taxes if they just made the rich pay theirs.
@TruthSword7
@TruthSword7 3 года назад
@@Zwickerly2 Yes, that would be great. Now what do you propose to make them do that?
@jdb47games
@jdb47games 3 года назад
When the rich take loans secured on their shares, it is not to avoid tax, it is to avoid having to sell those shares earlier than they would like, as they expect them to rise in value. Far from avoiding tax, this greatly increases the capital gains tax payable on those shares when they are eventually sold to pay off the loan, as the shares are worth much more.
@PhilMccamley
@PhilMccamley 3 года назад
They all look like strange creatures with googly eyes who have looked at themselves in the mirror for too long.. or maybe that's juste the 2000s video quality
@dinogoldie9716
@dinogoldie9716 3 года назад
7 people disliked this video? Are their names R Branson, J Bezos, D Trump, M Zuckerberg, K West, E Musk and, Nigel Starbuck III?
@pretorious700
@pretorious700 3 года назад
More likely people who favor a more nuanced take on taxation.
@dinogoldie9716
@dinogoldie9716 3 года назад
@@pretorious700 What wasn't "nuanced" about this factual video?
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 3 года назад
At least they have the good sense to learn from the winners instead of making excuses for the losers.
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 3 года назад
@@pretorious700 the nuanced take is that taxation is theft.
@feandil666
@feandil666 3 года назад
It wouldn't take much change to the tax code to fix the loopholes, for instance not allowing tax deduction on loan repayments, not allowing payment of "IP" to a mother company belonging to the same group, etc. The main problem is that it's not in the interest of the people in charge, they want their clients (donors, future employers) to be happy. So it won't change until people vote in non-corruptible politician, but that's a rare thing.
@mailmarca
@mailmarca 3 года назад
Makes you just feel sad and powerless
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