I had E1 Acheron and this really helped to convince me to go for E2 bc of how powerful her E2 was. Probably wouldn't have gone for it if I didn't get to try it out in sim universe
@@Lun1z it happens. I have seen people think it gave a point to the path they were on in simulated universe. Like if you ran destruction and had 2 blessings + the cheese it activated it. Traces sounds so much better than that
I found E1 Aventurine very good with this curio. Almost thought about pulling for it but then I understand you really want this eidolon only for SU. E2 Acheron is super strong (E1 was an accident) but I don't need that much power. I guess I can consider pulling for that kind of eidolons only after devs give us an opportunity to enable and disable eidolons at any time.
Dan Heng IL E2 is freaking crazy. Literally the most overpowered and fun experience to just get a free advanced forward and tier 3 enhanced attack. I love it
No sameee, I have E1 dhil as well, and every time I get the cheese, I’m so happy. I spent the rerun for his LC this time, but the next rerun, I’mma get the eidolon 👌🏻
Topaz E1 makes her Ratio's best friend. The Debtor state increases his follow up percentage so you don't have to set up as many debuffs and frees up their team to run a buffer instead of a debuffer. It's also my favorite interaction in the game to have Ratio and Numby chase each other after an ultimate.
Yessss both of them together are incredible and strong so I adore them a ton. With that E1 and hopefully her LC I hope to massively boost Ratio's Damage and Aventurine E1 will make the 2 of them pop off stronger Also given how they are both hunt we can run the Izumo set for easier crit building now that I look at it. Ratio and Numby comboing is so much fun
I went for his E1 but lost 5050 to gepard 😂😭. E1 is so comfortable in sim u tho, he literally never needs skill points. Maybe one in a 3 phase boss fight. I had to go to hard pity for the loss so idk if I can justify not saving my guarantee, but on the other hand part of me says skip 2.2 chars to E1 my Fu and Aven and give crit dmg to everyone. These choices aren't easy but I suppose that's by design 😅
This curio made my Conundrum 12 runs with E0S1 Aventurine so easy (I loved the extra shield on burst and the crit dmg boost), luckily I got his E1S1 now
23:08 , E2 fu xuan haver here. Its only working when her E is active. And crazy enough that E2 works on Fu Xuan too. Imagine situation when she soaked too much dmg and she got onetapped, no problem she revived at almost full hp after dying! Free out of jail card. I am not regreting getting her at e2s1, she is carying me to this moment lol.
does it work even if she is out of talent stacks? I was under the impression that she couldn't res herself at all and now I'm extra curious (E0S1 haver and eyeing her imminent rerun).
@@0v_x0 Yeah it works even if she is out of stacks, only condition to activate e2 is that matrix on E must be active ! Theoretically E2 can revive all 4 team members if they die at the same time.
Whale tips: If you have E2S1 Dan IL & Acheron and some broken Harmony/Sustain (Signature is Optional), you might not need to spend any more money. Your team will always be strong enough to clear any content.
This is basically my account now. E2S1 DHIL and E0S1 Acheron And I've been cruising through every content except the latest PF (I still can't 3 star the last stage 💀)
Yeah dudes. Dont rush. I took like 6 months or so beginning to end xianzou. Character banners showed up as they showed in story, i had lots of content and time to enjoy and figure out the game.
True, same for me honestly. I liked to take my sweet time. I only recently did more of the sidequests from the Xianzhou Loufu and the Black Swan and Sparkle Companion Mission
honestly the only time i've been tempted because of the space cheese is huohuo's e1 made me realize she goes from comfy to never worrying. yes i know a lot of eidolons make huge damage differences but QoL e1 is when i do get tempted. i would much rather get a signature lc for my favorite dps character than getting their e1/e2. to me personally, having e6 of a 5 star character would end up being benched forever.
The space cheese is my #1 most picked curio lol. I use a lot of 5★ characters, so getting to try out their e1s is always fun I'm definitely picking up Dr Ratio's e1 on his rerun
Honestly same it feels so nice getting to try out the E1s and after reading what they do some are super noticeable! Doctor Ratio getting free crit rate and crit dmg is wild
So funnily enough, this curio hasn’t made me reach for an eidolon for that specific eidolon, but rather to gain access to the next eidolon when I have this curio available. As someone who can’t afford to whale for some of these specific power spikes, a character that is made amazing by their e2 feels unobtainable. However, the e1 I can obtain with a little bit of effort grinding in game. And with that e1, I will occasionally be able to use their e2 with this curio
Acheron's first two are having 18% more crit rate when hitting debuffed enemies (which will be most likely all the time) and being able to have her double nihility buff with just one, allowing you to have an armony character in your team to boost her damage even more. (plus with the 2nd one u get a charge of her ult with just starting Acheron's turn.)
E2 Sparkle is the most broken harmony unit because it gives her bigger teamwide buffs on top of her hyper carry buffs. After ult you have 100% uptime on 55% atk, 48% DMG, 24% DEF Ignore for the whole team. Her Lightcone is another 10% CR and 28% CD for the team. ... she is definitely my mvp harmony unit
The defense shred is so massive honestly. I am debating getting her E1 and LC first on her next rerun. At E2 S1 she is absolutely insane and sounds absolutely gamebreaking. Especially given the fact she replenishes SP. So you can go GIGA aggro
it really just depends on which characters you use and what eidolons you already have on said characters its always gonna be a good bonus tho outside of already having 3 characters at e6 on your SU team
Yeah it's just a number increase for most characters for me. Most of my characters are either e6, e2, or at a point where the next eidolon is just a slightly number increase, so it often ends up being the same as just getting any other curio that's like "do 30% more damage", but it never changes how I play any of my characters in SU.
Having an E2 Huohuo because of the space cheese just made my auto-battling more comfortable, and also kinda made me sad that her E2 basically turns her into an E6 bailu on, the cheese also made my E3 bronya more satisfying to use for elation runs since her E4 gives her an FuA.
E2 is crazy good for Huohuo, the 2 revive stacks are awesome. Also damn E4 Bronya that is crazy and so cool. I wish I had more Bronya Eidolons honestly
i got very very lucky in early hsr and got multiple eidolons at low pity and i prefer skipping half of the characters or more rather than having everyone half built but to me the fun was imposing challenges on my MoC or PF runs, like i always go for max score in PF and keep playing and adjusting my rotations until i get it. And for MoC the most fun I had was with the current MoC (with gepard/kafka bosses and trying to get 0 cycles on both sides which took many tries and made me learn a lot about the game and how to maximize my dmg output. Eidolons and LCs helped a lot for that (E2S1Kafka, E2S1 Swan, E1S1 RM, E0S0 Huohuo/ E1S1 Topaz, E1S1 Robin, E0S0 Ratio, E0S1 Aventurine) but without proper game knowledge even with those eidolons you can't 0 cycle without thinking. If at some point I can't 0 cycle anymore, i'll just aim for 1 cycle.
Honestly that's fair. 0 cycling requieres strategy and management always. It is always brain over brute force when dealing with enemies in this game in the most efficient and clean way possible
For me I just never noticed how good it was because you don’t know how it would look without blessings. Definitely not enough to whale on an eidolon because I can’t tell the difference whenever I get the blue cheese
Yeah the sheer amount of blessings makes it hard to actually tell a difference aside from few case scenarios like UI visual ones like Huohuo or Quality of Life improvements like Topaz for Ratio pairing I feel
im a FuA enjoyer, and this effing blue cheese really makes me want to get topaz E1, because of the crit dmg buff for the whole team and the extra debuff for ratio
I got the blue cheese and Topaz got the priviledge to get her E1 and S1 because of how amazing it felt to play her, especially having gotten Dr Ratio for Free
@@BaraKingu the propagation path buff is insane and I love it. That advanced forward and points is so good. And you get to spam it with the refresh on kill. It is the best
It depends on your characters, some like DanHeng IL e2 are special giving you stuff like instant turns, but for some it's just basic eidolons like more DMG more buff.
After I got to experience what its like having E1 Huohuo in SU, it feels so much better since she actually becomes an SP+ instead of an SP Neutral unit if you want her heals to be constantly up.
SMT 4 Tokyo Map OST is goated. I freaking adored the game so much and still listen to it and the Boss Music a lot of the times. I still have scars for that OST because of the Minotaur fight and Walter making him smirks with Agi. I had to restart so many runs because he was my support there
@@ManCarSua I beat him after grinding for 2 hours to get a decent demon... then Medusa promptly humbled me. SMT 4 is not perfect, but imo is the best combination of Old themes and new tech. The game is basically SMT 1 but modern and has lots of the early Atlus tropes they made with their games. Trully a timeless game.
@theshellderinslowbrostail5422 Indeed, I thouroughly enjoyed that game from start to finish. And to this day I am still tempted to get SMT 4 apocalypse. Just to experience the world again, even if it has been so long. Medusa also destroyed me when I first encountered her. "Surely she can't be worsed than the Minotaur" I said before she paralyzed my party and crit spammed me ;-; But yeah ,in all such an amazing game and I adore it so much. Both that game and Nocturne are games I will never get tired of The isabeau fights in both endings chaos and law had me fucked up and miserable though. Truly heart wrenching dialogue
@@ManCarSua try Apocalypse. Its in gameolay terms better than OG 4, but the story took a hit. I dont mind it as much but its subpar at best to the rest of the series
Nope. Will never be baited into falling for those kind of manipulative marketing tactics. Especially when I still wouldn't be able to clear these SU worlds anyway.
@@adpfgaming7472 yea after my fu got one shot by svarog when he had half an HP bar left for the 4th time, I just don't touch that mode anymore. I'm so over it.
That would be insane but also so much fun. I'd adore that honestly. Or like make it so it is like "The first party member will have all their eidolons unlocked"
Oh, that Jingyuan E2 basically just increases Lightning Lord(LL) blast ATK DMG. Each hit from LL is a bouncing blast ATK and it only do 25% DMG to adjacent target. So instead of dealing only 25%, it is increased to 50% DMG.
I picked this Curio the most in SU and thanks to it i really want Luocha's E1. Sadly, couldn't pull for it again in his rerun since i had very bad luck in 2.1, but someday... also: This cheese image is really pretty, this is a very stupid reason but i find it's colors super enjoyable so it's like "ah, the purple-blue cheese, so pretty : ) -pick-"
SMT4 is great. I have Tokyo stuck in my mind because of how many times I heard it when playing the game. And also just in general such good OST to vibe to explore the overworld. To this day one of my favorite games
I think you might be overvaluing some of the eidolons that provide dmg% and attack%. Most DPS already have 30% or so dmg% from orb and common supports such as RM, Bronya and even Sparkle provide quite a bit as well. Likewise, attack is very saturated already as supports like TY, Bronya and soon to be Robin provide a lot and we get a lot from our gear. I believe the eidolons that provide crit or extra features that allow for increased damage are much more valuable, i.e. FX E1 > Luocha E1 for any non-dot DPS. Also as a Seele user I find her E1 can be kinda meh since if you are trying to oneshot a small enemy, the e1 doesnt help much since you are trying to 100 to 0 them. Also JY E1 just increases the splash damage dealt by LL and is not a large increase in damage overall (like 5-10% total increase).
That is fair. I do can over value them at times, but some have been pretty good and useful for me. But I don't have the FULL experience from using them, I can just read them and interpret it from a viewer perspective from other people's gameplay. FX E1 is so freaking good honestly given how it works for her kit so easily. Thanks for clarifying the E1 for Jing Yuan!
I saw your post but didn't think it's you who made it. Either way, I love this curio as it's not just a buff or something, but a quality of life for some characters like Topaz
Yeah I wanted to get an actual community perspective rather than me say "yes this is the case". Getting an Eidolon is great though I was surprised to see how varied the replies were so it made me happy to see all the replies and discussions. And as you say the major ones were the Quality of Life upgrades we get like with Topaz, Lunae, and Huohuo
Huo Huo E1 and DHIL E2 prob the most noticable because they alter the UI it can be hard to tell in sim u on top of all the blessings and buffs when it's just a damage increase
Yeah that is true. I usually try to beat them all with just the trial ones. But I usually do a run first with rentals + my own characters for the fun of it. Then trials as a challenge and it keeps me engaged in the game further honestly
For Jing Yuan's E1: For every hit of LL on an enemy (randomly targeted), the center enemy takes 66% ATK and the adjacent enemies take 25% of Jing Yuan's ATK as DMG. With his E1, we add 25% to that multiplier, so it becomes 50%. In AoE content, Jing Yuan's damage on adjacent enemies basically doubles. - A day 1 Jing Yuan main
One thing I'd like to note about seele e2 is that you don't need to build any extra speed on her at all to reach 160 (normally you need at least 131 spd to achieve that). And for the uninitiated: she needs 160 spd for the maximum buff on her lightcone, and max out on glamoth set, which scales 1:1 together with the 4 pcs quantum set
Oh! So this is related to that reddit post! As I mentioned there, the cheese convinced me to pass on Fu Xuan's e2. I'd planned to grab the e1 regardless, but was interested in e2 Fu if it had a unique animation. The cheese let me test in-game to find that it doesn't and teams are so unkillable outside of SU that the revive doesn't matter except when I could pick up the curio anyway. Even when pairing her with Arlan.
Yes. I wanted to at least get some feedback rather than just say my own opinions because I did want to more accurately mention what Eidolons were strong and how many people felt a difference vs no difference at all. And as many said Blessings honestly do massively overpower the curio due to the sheer amount of them. But it is noticeable for some. It is upsetting E2 Fu Xuan has no unique animation like Bronya Follow up attack and such Speaking of Arlan his E4 was done so dirty. Getting a revive is sick. But it only is applicable for the first 2 turns then you lose that revive 😭😭
for me it was the opposite, having this curio in SU made me not want to get IL's E2, so he will sit at E1 forever (which i got by accident at 8 pity). he's already really strong outside of SU so there's barely any gain from E2. but i still get to enjoy it whenever i go for a "all turns are mine" strat in SU
Honestly very respectable, though it still is nice it can somewhat incentivize you to go for an E1 at least. Anything past E3 is less hype since it is LVLs rather than passives
Love these videos man!! I noticed you say “adore” a lot which i thought was funny HAHA 😭😭 for me personally i was really tempted to get e2 acheron, BUT i decided to skip and stay with e1 (which i got rlly lucky with LMAO back to back) bcs I wanted other characters. Im tempted to pull on her rerun for her LC or smth thooughh :)
I so say adore too much especially in this video. I was recording every character separately. So I was like "I don't wanna over use the phrase I love or I like" so I just used adored and now I realize how much that happened lmaooo. Acheron E2 is super tempting. Best of luck on your pulls and all and I am hmso happy you enjoy the long videos!
Can confirm Black Swan E1 is busted. I barely missed out on Ruan Mei banner on a guarantee as f2p, and when Black Swan dropped I had an actual surplus budget so she became my first (small) whaling expedition. That res pen makes up for a big part of Ruan Mei's kit (ofc I'm still pulling her E1 on rerun), and turned out to be an even bigger bonus after pulling Acheron in her hybrid DoT comp. Since the enemy is always shocked from Kafka, the lightning res pen is always active, which makes Acheron's ult damage nearly equal her E6. Res pen stacks on a curve similar to def shred, and enables brute forcing nearly any enemies by literally negating that part of the DMG equation more than she already does. Even without Kafka, her ultimate debuff counts as every element of DoT. So it still at least offers basically the same uptime as Ruan Mei res pen, just 4 elemental types instead of all but it works great for Acheron. It also applies when Acheron breaks an enemy since that applies shock. Easily a top 5 E1 in the game, maybe top 3.
Daaaamn that is insane thanks for the rundown on it. I honestly thought it was too simple and basic when I read it at first. So I regret having thought that and not gone for the Eidolon when I could. Maybe I'll fish for it on her rerun
I didn't plan to pull E1 BS, but got her in the next 10pull, she's indeed very good in E0S1 Acheron, E1S1BS, E0Kafka with fermata and E0 Aventurine with trends. My best team by far. Even better on PF when I use E0S1RM instead of Aventurine.
For me, just the fact that Silverwolf, Ratio, Topaz and Aventurine work so well and the fact that last 3 are follow-up attackers made me want and will make me get e1 and a lightcone for Topaz. Yknow, 74% crit dmg for Ratio, Topaz and Ave's follow ups sounds kinda crazy. But, I would have also loved to get e1 for Aventurine for even more crit dmg for everyone. But I have decided that I will get Topaz stuff. And, I am guaranteed for both! Cuz I lost at Acheron's cone, and I got an early Welt after getting Aventurine! Increduble luck will make this team op. However, the banners after that seem just too brutal. Both Firefly, which I loved in the story, and Jade, which I want cuz of Aventurine. A hard choice. But, after the Topaz investment, I think that, if the future-coming Jade won't use follow-up attacks (I am a follow-up enthusiast, I am an emanator of elation), I will try getting e2s1 Wolf. Why? 2 reasons. 1. It will make all 4 of my characters in that team to deal dmg. And I just wanna see Wolf to deal a lot of dmg. 2. Silverwolf is, in fact, my favorite character in this game, just like you. I actually think that I will save up one day to get all 6 eidolons for Silverwolf. She is just such a great character.
Yess I adore running all 4 of them in a team. And sometimes I swap Silver Wolf for Clara (I went and got E1S1 for Topaz so now she alone can guarantee 100% chance for Dr Ratio) It is so much fun and I adore how insane they are together.
i commented on your reddit post i eas one of the people who commented that it made me tempted to go for huohuo's e1 she's easily my most used character at this point and i do moc so e1 would be great my dhil is e0 so i don't notice a difference bc of all of blessings but if i had his e1 i know the temptation to go for e2 would be greater than it already is (he's my only s1 character so yes i will go for eidolons too)
I am happy to hear that you found your way to get to the youtube video! And glad to know you are from the reddit post too! Huohuo's E1 is super tempting. Hopefully the Eidolon collecting goes great and I wish you the best with any warps and pulls!
I got two Acherons in one ten pull, and I later realized how busted her E2 was because of that curio. I didn't manage to get E2 tho because I really didn't want to spend too much money (even if it really buffs her damage)
Yeah that is fair honestly, her E2 is massive I feel especially with Sparkle since you just enable a Harmony Unit to be added into comps and also Sparkle essentially makes you get 2 stacks for her ult (If you have the LC)
Ngl they should put a toggle when doing the test run of a character where you can choose what eidolon it has when testing it so you can see how does the champion behave while having certain eidolons
As a rule of thumb for me if a game has straight up the characters passive and skills behind getting a character more than once with no free way to get a bonus copy at those rates with no extra banner characters outside the regular pulls, then it makes me spend less. Especially when there is no chance for a upgrade to the character down the road(dokkan and legends spoiled me).
Honeslty that would be sick and amazing for an event too. Like when we got the super curios event some time ago. Having the OMEGA cheese that E6s your party for a simulated universe limited event would be insane
I got E1 DHIL going an extra 30 pulls fishing for Tingyun E6. He's a blast in sim uni when I get that curio. Completely FTP but I'm going to save for his rerun and pick his lightcone and E2 up if luck allows it.
I run simulated universe. Nihility path, no healers after i get that 1 star blessing. And damn is that good dmg, but damn is that one hell of a risk factor. I like nihility because i feel like the bad guy for once
Because im heavily against eidelons this block of cheese doesnt sway me in the slightest but as a new player it is nice to know that my eidelon resonance was increased
@@LustLord I don’t have Seele, Kafka, Blade, DhiL, Jinyuen, Black swan, Archeron, Jingliu, Sparkle. I have only pulled for Topaz, Argenti, Huohuo, Ruan Mei.
For me thus curio is bad because my Seele is E1 and getting E2 f*cks up my spd tuning with Sparkle and also good because i get to use E1 SW and ult every time i use her skill LoL. And I will definitely pull for SW E2 on her re-run if I have enough jades until then.
That is fair honestly, E2 SW is great. I used to struggle hitting the debuff on the Swarm bugs in Swarm Disaster 5 in the past, and even MoC. Not anymore since getting her
Genshin actually this same perk you could find in the roguelike event they had a few back. I argued that making the roguelike permenant and keeping that perk would elevate desire for people to want to pull duplicates. But Genshin dropped it. Stupid.
Yessss the Shiki taishou event with the little paper guy. Such a good event. I loved it. So sad they never brought it back. Roguelike permanent content was the best idea they had for HSR honestly
