How to avoid being replaced by Ai Art 

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That sounds all cool but who really thought the next Goya would be threatened by "AI" anytime soon? The threat is for the masses of commercial artists and not the handful of fineart superstar unicorns. The threat is also about the ramifications of being able to utilize big data for private profits within a capitalist system. On the one hand we need big data and algos to find patterns if we want to better understand climate modeling for example. On the other hand we seem to be pretty blindly walking into a neo-feudal world where a handful of private owners assert unheard of levels of power over the rest of humanity (and we haven't even started talking about biotech in the mainstream). People are distracted by flashy Stable Diffusion generations but those behind the development of these technologies don't aim to create tools for the masses. They want AGI if possible and if by that time we haven't changed the economic and social systems keeping humanity away from chaos it won't matter how many people, out of spite, try to become the next Goya.

@@LarsRichterMedia thank you for the motivation. Now I REALLY want to be the next Goya 🙏

@@teru_9921 absolutely go for it!

that's the spirit! art is from humans, not machines

Same, when I asked myself why I draw, I had to really think about it. I actually pulled out all of my sketchbooks and when looking through them, I knew the answer and I became even prouder of being an artist. Let's not give up, let's push forward!

you shouldn't worry about AI art because unlike AI you actually own the images you make

It's actually the opposite of terrible

@Keshuel stop spamming

AI is a crime, a crime against human identity, AI in art productions has to be identified and boycotted.

If you can't distinguish AI art from an artist hand, then your claim to have studied art for 20 years is highly suspect. :/

@@MrRossT1 In OP's defense, I've gone to art school and been tricked a bit too, especially if the prompter spends an extra half-hour cleaning up the "debris". I'm already nervous to have seen some AI pieces that can get all 5 fingers in.

There are too many variables to consider, and one can easily get into a philosophical "what is art?" Sort of question. To keep it somewhat brief, there are already models capable of producing human and/or animal figures with the correct number of appendages. Even the ones that aren't great at such features will get it right if the person "rerolls" the prompt enough times. Also, we are talking about a rapidly evolving technology. The core of my earlier statement is that we cannot judge it or ascribe techniques to challenge it solely based on its current state since it is changing so rapidly and there are so many versions of it being developed. Could one tell when zoomed in that the brush strokes, the pencil lines, etc. don't quite line up with how such media is rendered by real-world instruments? Mostly, yes, but it would be nigh impossible to scrutinize every image one looks at with that level of detail. Also, most of the images generated with AI are relatively low resolution, 1 megapixel or so, I believe. That is mostly a limitation that stems from system resources available for the millions of queries reaching those servers at any given moment, not from the capabilities of the underlying AI software. Also, platforms like MidJourney already generate accurate fingers at first, but get it wrong during the upscaling process. What I interpret from the video is that in spite of the capabilities of AI software, there will continue to be a space for human artist and the thoughtfulness that comes from a human mind laying down one line after another. I believe that sentiment to be true. I further believe that there will continue to be a place in the market for human-made art, be it traditional or digital. However, I would like to clarify that the way AI image/video generators operate is evolving faster than most of us are used to. We have somewhat become used to technology giving us a new iPhone, for example, on a yearly basis. AI is changing on more like a weekly basis. This is a massively complex subject. One well worthy of different interpretations and lines of thought. I believe it to be something worth trying to understand as it will likely affect our lives in some fashion and it is unlikely we can truly put the genie back in the bottle.

@@MrRossT1 do you even understand what the op said?

@@Sela2125 art is subjective. Art is a descriptor. There is art in everything.

no

Technically. Practically sue billion dollar company is very hard, weak attempts will only create bad precedent. There's things organized right now, they might succeed or not in future.

It's going to happen soon if it's not happening already.

Yes, but I heard it can take 5 years for class action lawsuit to get to the courts so it will take a long time orz. At least there is a class action lawsuit against copilot OpenAi that got started

Artists are astoundingly bad at legality and business. So even if they can, they won't

Yeah I just love the process instead of result its kinda relaxing

Facts! When you're passionate about something, it becomes you. And nothing can stop you from being that way. The process of creating art using your own creativity and imagination will always be beautiful. But I can admit, sometimes it can be disheartening for artists when they see their artwork gets stolen, and replaced for AI's credit.

AI has been used in clerical, software development and VFX for decades. You just haven't noticed.

I commend you and you are a real artist. I have 0 respect for people getting dishearted or thretened by AI art. I mean, why are you threatened by a computer? Someone made an AI chess grandmaster but chess still exist until this day?

@@konaqua122 Your logic makes no sense. People don't make money regularly from playing chess. Chess is a sport and a hobby. You can't get your "work" stolen from chess because it's just a strategy based game. Not a creativity work game. Art however, is different. When creating art you put passion and soul in it. Some people make money from art itself, and having your hard work stolen and replaced as the AI's work can disheartean many artists. Your chess example has literally no real meaning to replacing ARTISTS dude. Chess exists as a sports game, not a "use your imagination to create something beautiful" kind of thing. No ones asking for your respect, you don't get it for some people.

all this AI fearmongering! Will people relax... the world will need people, people created AI to help not to replace.... you dont want to be working for companies that want a bank of machines instead of a room full of passionate souls.... that goes for everything..... unless Ai can bring personality, charisma, charm, passion, fight for whats on the page, argue the toss with me or change my mind etc..... you cant have a creative meeting with Ai where everyone bounces ideas

@@antwango My problem with it is how art AIs get to take copyrighted images whereas the music AIs are prohibited to do so. The music AIs rely only on copyright free music. It’s the level of bias that bothers me.

I'd be discourage if all I do is prompt on a machin, no reason to be discourage at all, creative people will always standout regardless of time.

@@antwango I’d recommend spending some time talking with chatgpt. They’re starting to seem less soulless. My biggest concern about all this ~soul~ stuff we all believe is that it’s not that significant and that AI will be able to be charismatic and charming or whatever you said. Easterners practiced the same martial arts for literally thousands of years but with MMA now we see the vast majority of it is pretty useless. Some judo and some good kicks make it in but all the most dominant players are wrestlers and kickboxers. Perhaps our souls are overrated

@antwango "AI can bring charm" I'd argue not. And quit calling people rightfully being concerned as "fear mongering"

not just artists! you dont need to worry! TBH my pov i dont think AI will be able to really replace the human.... until the AI has a soul? If it attains the soul then its no longer AI its no longer artifical? erm lets not get too deep... this will take us down a big deep ghost in the shell matrix rabbit hole i dont have the time for lol i dont know where this AI fearmongering is coming from tbh, if it is to be then it will replace every single person working... not just artists, the stupid boss at the top making the "artistic" "Creative" decisions or not making the decisions.... management is most peoples problem anyway.... ahhh im digressing into a rant.... In summary WE ALL STILL NEED HUMANS!!! ONLY the bean counters the boardroom the shareholders would like machines that churn out endless creativity without hassle or feedback etc My gist is dont worry! You most likely cant do anything about it anyway unless youre NOT HUMAN..... Just be human and do your best without sacrificing what is uniquely you! No one wants to turn you into a machine!! I dont think! if the world is going to reject humans lol then there is seriously something wrong at the top!

You may be able to use this tech to your advantage for a short period of time but if you take a look at how fast this tech is evolving, you have to be very naive as content creator to not think that you are embracing your own death sentence (that's why creators like Samdoeasart, Greg Rutkowski, Karla Ortiz, etc hates AI art). The reality is that the days of content creation as we know it are going to go extinct. I used to think that digital artists could fight back AI generated content by taking advantage of our "human factor" (aspects that humans are good at and AI is not) but the reality is that AI doesn't need to be human, sentient, understand context or human feelings to create content that appeals to normal people. Humans are already playing with these AI tools giving away all the information that developers need to fine tune them to please people. In a few years, these AIs will be able to create high quality output (art, animations, photos, videos..) for the average public and you won't be able to fight back that huge tsunami of generated content. Even if you produce good content, you are going to get buried anyways by the amount of content generated per second. Social media algorithms won't be there to save you. If you think it's already hard to grow a fanbase and make a living as independent artist, wait a few years. It's going to be a nightmare. Every time you see an AI developer telling you that this is "just another tool" to empower existing artists, take into account that it's just a lie to calm you down so you don't make too much noise about it. These AIs have not been designed with professional artists in mind. Professional artists never have been part of the equation. You only have to see how they promote their AI products. AI end goal is to get so good that your service as professional artist won't be longer needed. It may bring "creative power" to the average person that creates as a hobby, but it's going to destroy multiple professional markets in the process (not just art). The industrial revolution changed everything, many jobs were destroyed but you still needed people to manipulate the machines. People were trained to use the machines instead. A big amount of human power was still required. However, this "conversion" won't happen with AI. AI doesn't require an army of artists to operate. In a few years, your 90 years old grandma will be able to outmatch in quality and quantity the output of 100 actual human artists in their entire lifetime using her smartphone. It sounds like a joke but it's not. AI is evolving at the speed of light. One week feels like a year. As side note, I've always loved tech and as a former 3D worker, the idea of play with new tools to generate ideas is something that I've always loved. I really tried to be optimistic about AI generated content but after follow the developers behind these projects, check how many open source models are in the public domain already and how fast the technology is evolving, it's impossible to not have a very pessimistic vision of what it's about to happen to the art market. Many artists are embracing AI like is just another tool, like digital drawing tools were in the past, or 3D. I understand them. They don't want to be the "boomer" of the group saying "new tech bad" because that usually doesn't age well. However this time the difference is crystal clear. AI is not here to empower professional artists, but to replace them. You won't have the chance to "adapt" to this new "tool" for too long. Once the AI is improved and polished, you won't be necessary anymore. If you are confident as an artist because you think these AI art generators are close to peak in quality then get ready for a big disappointment. To be honest, the only semi-realistic ray of hope I have right now is the creation of a legal framework that would allow professional artists and AI generated content to coexist in a fair way for both parties. However, even if that's possible, it will probably happen when it's too late.

Only artists with nothing to offer fear A.I.

@@MrRossT1 Oh really? so why Greg Rutkowski, Karla Ortiz, Samdoesart, Patrick Ballesteros, ..... and almost 90% artist in websites like artstation are trying to regulate this new technology? Yea sure they probably dont have nothing to offer right?

@@yukihira8232 Karla Ortiz ripped off many artists at Concept Art Artelier, PuddnHead being one of those, so no, she ain't original! Patrick Ballesteros borrows much from Cory Loftis! So give me a break! Samdoesart is a typical RossDraws clone! You never see RossDraws complaining about AI art, you never see Alex Ross complaining about AI art. Artists who offer value don't complain. Artists who offer no value complain.

How good is his fundamentals section?

yes, im not an artist but seeing this community stay close together even on difficult times brings me joy

Really? You should read about the creep who created Ren and Stimpy. Or GG Allin or R. Kelly, or Chris Chan. Who do you think does all the prison tattoos? It's artists.

I mean art has existed since the dawn of man, it's actually a tool used to document history for generations, handing that over to AI is a sin in my book

@@kylelee5966 Saying using a new tool to record history is a sin is blasphemy, heresy and completely ignorant.

@@bethrains3105 it's not just a tool, it's marketed as a replacement while simultaneously using nonconsensual work without consent, if it were using public domain then that would be fine but it isn't.

Chances are AI artist can't properly explain their art, just prompts. But you with a brain can, and you can make detail that AI cannot do properly yet. If you are illustrate for a book where character, scene and setting need to be consistent, human will still do better in this job.

This is really good to hear. If I can at least help one person feel a bit more at ease, and continue to enjoy making art / pursue their dreams - then I am happy.

If you feel your art can be replaced by software it means you offered nothing to begin with.

@@MrRossT1 Dumb logic.

every artists have ONE thing that AI doesn't have and probably will never have you don't own the AI image you generated and you can't copyright AI image

this is a great view i haven’t heard from anyone else. it’s easy for people who already get commissions, especially from regulars. but harder for someone who is starting from practically nothing in this current AI stuff, like me. i changed my uni major to art earlier this year and can’t tell if i’m regretting it or not due to the AI stuff and since i’m not that great at art. but i’m hoping that this stuff will die down like NFTs lmao

You can’t use artstation ? I don’t understand

@@v_bunny I'm about to change mine away from art because of AI. I'll see you in a couple years to see which one of us is regretting it 😭. I'm a first year college student in USA rn so I don't lose any progress for changing my major during my early years.

I disagree most artists struggle due to not understanding how to market their art and themselves as a brand. They fail not because of skill but because they haven’t built a distribution system for their craft. Even without AI all these artists would struggle for the same reasons.

@@Flavor190 exactly, these artists succeed because they understand it's a business not just a skillset. There are people like the doodle guy who arguably draws worse than ergo but is really good at marketing himself to where it doesn't matter. There is plenty of room for lots of different kinds of artists out there who can connect with others with their work

if you're worried about AI, then you might want to consider dabbling in story boarding/animatics. Story boarder from wonderunit is free and is a great tool for dipping your toes into that world. It'll take ages for AI to step into the story board space. And it'd be a useful medium for practicing composition, and different angles. If I were you i'd shoot for being a concept artist as your main goal. But practice some story boarding as a fall back. Or you could use it as a back door to start building business relationships and to use as a networking tool. Building business relationships is half the battle.

AI produced some of the worse random looking art I have ever seen. Just don't take it seriously and do whatever fits you

let go of it, the age of concept artists is over

@@toututu2993 Then you have not seen the newest AI art, dont give him such bad advice.

@@mathias8236 Yes I saw the new one. The result is garbage. I would not even use it for reference other than for abstract

Big agree with you my friend. But like it's been said there's a lot of noise out there and we gotta wait a bit until thr dust settles and clears

I agree, I almost gave up because of other people saying that “A.I will replace artist” or “being an artist shouldn’t be your goal” This gave me hope

AI dont need to be as good as artists. It need to be good enough while borderline free. And yes there's reasons for optimism, but let's prepare for worst. If AI really will stuck at some point and we wll be fine it doesnt need to be addressed anyway. We should be bit pessimistic just in case

​@@danilakalinin6261 fortunately, that's not the case, i have a patreon, an on my discord community they talked about how the IA looses the magic really quickly, and people is just searching for something fresh, clients still preferes authenthic artists, because there's a different conection, someone who gives you inspiration on your life, this also applies to nsfw, People gets boring after some AI results, they just want something fresh, something that only an authenthic handmade draw can give, even without any advanced skills, just with taste and creative ways to represent their thoughts / desires into a picture.

@@Mente_Fugaz Right now ai is indeed not that dreadful. But it will become better. I personally think concept artist will be fine mostly but illustrators should think about plans b, c and d just in case.

That's legit exactly what our brains are. That's what we do, except we have lots of goals, needs and desires associated with the struggle of staying alive with varying degrees of priority instead of one task. A.I. is constantly moving closer to replicate the human mind but without any imperfections of mortality, bias and error; Into a godlike being. Knowing how to do art will be useless very soon and that will slash the community in half due to lots of ego-related and external motivation factors. That skill will be useless and it's at the border of that. You'd be better off doing more productive things that give the same benefits but faster.

Same thing as shoe makers revolted against shoe machine but at the end they just get along with it, history does repeats itself

same thing as horse racing and cars

@@clearlyanartistanimations6915 that’s only if you view art as a tool to make money. many people use art as a way to distress or as a creative outlet, and using ai Art can’t replicate that. many people prefer art that has taken a real personal hours of work to produce rather than an ai replica. ai is very similar to our brains, but it can only use what’s inputted into it.

There are so many amazing parallels with art in different industry, thanks for sharing!

Banger comment. Have found two of my drawings in their database so... ugh, hope laws speed up. Anytime now. Even if I copyrighted my characters, I still couldn't win against.. million dollar companies yeah.....

Finally someone who understands

@@ris8447 everyone needs to come together

@@ris8447 two of your images in a training set consisting of 500 million images. You honestly think you are being infringed?

This argument is valid. I have to go sleep now, but there are some really good academic articles if you look for them analysing the different methods AI art uses. TL;DR, Most methods do not achieve creation of work that would be considered derivative enough to be considered a unique work. One thing I will tell you though is that this will be a thing of the past in possibly less than a year. AI learning is advancing rapidly. Eventually AI will be creating art that IS derivative enough. That is quite literally the problem every AI art developer is trying to solve.

the more i see ai art the more easy they are to recognize ..idk how someone feel proud enough to say its theirs when they did absolutely no shit and no effort lol..how do you genuinely feel accomplished in that? So laughable

Artists have gotten better an INSANE amount due to all of the education available. But any decent oil painters can still paint circles around me even with all of the most expensive tablets/software in the world. I believe this will be the same with Ai, in its own way.

Glad you enjoyed it!

I used it to make the first part of a free crappy webcomic.

you don't get paid that's why lol

eh, um, no

But image processing is a completely different skill! Editing can be fun, sure, but it lacks all my favourite parts of the drawing process!

@@liljatupsu If drawing is what you like to do, then keep drawing. You shouldn't be discouraged from doing something you love just because a computer can do the same thing. Look at all the chess masters still playing chess even though computers have been able to beat people at chess for decades.

And very specific details.

That will be the next thing to get touched by AI and very rapidly

@@KlearChristal generates a 1 gazillion polygon waifu that melts your motherboard upon using it in unity

Lets be ready when it comes.

@Yellow Brand well If that does end up happening it is what it is but for now we gotta make ourselves as versatile as possible, I'm a comic artist but I'm gonna jump into animation too. Also as artists we have to improve our business skills more than ever.

@@JohnFinitee Good thing I am pretty flexible with styles and want to be an animator.

@Yellow Brand that’s not a very productive mindset. People’s literal jobs are on the line due to this, this could give them a morbid morale boost to keep artists in the running

I agree. If it sticks around, its meant to stick around. I'm sure it will change alot and so will we.

lol, props to him for being a smart businessman!