How to build a ribbon burner forge

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Today we'll be showing how to build a new forge and ribbon burner! This will be a very efficient and powerful forge.
Big thanks to Brian Housewert from www.housemade.us for all his help!
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@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Are there any parts of this build you have questions about? Big thanks to Brian Housewert from Housemade.us for his help!

@yax75 2 года назад

Did you ever get the 3d part from Brian? If so did he happen upload it to Thingaverse?

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

@@yax75 He did send it to me and it works amazingly well. It screws into the 2" pipe so it's a solid fit. I have no idea if he uploaded it anywhere. Msg him on IG and ask.

@ken5439 2 года назад

Great explanation on the forge and burner. How deep is the casting for the burner, looks about 4 inches plus 1.5" inside the burner but I didn't hear the actual size.. thanks you

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

@@ken5439 the burner was about 3” of refractory below the burner and an inch inside. It really depends on your forge wall thickness. That’s why I did the forge casting first. 👍

@knifethrower9733 2 года назад

Can you make refractory cement?? It's hard to find in Australia and is really expensive at the hardware store.

@gregchapman2634 2 года назад

I really like the sacrificial floor concept. Great forge, I am looking forward to the Damascus projects

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Thanks for taking a look, Greg!

@Brokentwobutton 8 месяцев назад

If you don't have space for cast bricks(you can make tinner ones yourself for about $1/lb) you can put a stainless cookie sheet on it to stop any damage from slag and flux drips.

@dhtsoaedsdhtnadi9575 Год назад

the side-blown ribbon burner with swirling flame makes the most sense to me. this has inspired me. thank you for sharing your build process.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

I’m glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching

@JPsBladeworks 2 года назад

Sweet forge. I ordered mine off amazon. Ill build my next one from scratch though thats for sure.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Yeah, making one is the way to go!

@jamesstrutt1616 2 года назад

Fantastic video, thank you for creating it! I'm considering buying a small forge to setup in garage. How hot does the inside of your garage get when you work your forge? Does it cause any damage to your drywall or contents in your garage? Thank you in advance!

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Right above the forge it’s about 150F when I’m forge welding. About 8’ away it’s 125F. No damage at all to the garage or drywall. Make sure your sprinkler heads are rated for 200F though (green stems in the US mean 200F). My forge is also way more powerful than any small forge you’ll buy online. Thanks for watching, James.

@Stillpoint23 Год назад

I love how your work table slides into place, good idea!

@jamesbarisitz4794 2 года назад

A G.I. Joe crematorium. I like the idea of the solenoid shutoff. I think that's an upgrade worth adding to my DIY ribbon burner. Thanks for showing your take on design and fabrication concisely. 👍

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

The solenoid is a good safety measure in case you ever lose power. Though if your fan dies it probably won’t help you. Thanks for watching, James!

@ForgingThought Год назад

If you ever have to do this again one trick I tried was throwing the sono tube in the bathtub with about 2-3 of hot water. Once it's soaked in enough to be flexible you can either hang the tube with a wire and let brick weigh the bottom to form as it dries or you can be impatient like me and clamp brick vertical while a propane space heater dries it out-but I found this saved me the hassle of measuring and cutting wood/sonotube and saved time and materials. If you let it get good n soggy it clamps to form perfectly and dries just as hard as it was store bought. Some brands of sonotube may delaminate in the water but a simple wrap in landscaping twine or anything really fixes this. Worked great for me. Cheers 🍻

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

That’s a great idea! I’ll try that next time. Thanks for watching.

@theriversexperience9383 2 года назад

I will be pretty much doing this exact build when I start mine. Thanks for making the video and I'll probably be picking your brain when I start.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Sure, let me know what questions you have. 👍

@RedBeardOps 2 года назад

Man I like the height! Doors are sweet too!

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Thanks, James! I’m looking forward to doing some forge welding soon!

@csabavarady4711 Год назад

Hi everybody! I'm hobby bladesmith from Hungary (Budapest) who is just thinking to build a gas forge to replace my charcoal burning one. My biggest problem has been the even heat distribution on the blade especially at the end of forging when the blade getting to be long. Thanks to this great Man who was keen to share his knowledge I found super solution that solves the problem. This ribbon burner is brilliantly simple and logical. Thank You Sir and keep up the great job!

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

I’m glad the video was helpful. The ribbon burner is definitely the way to go! 👍. Thanks for watching

@johntwite2421 День назад

I built a forge very similar to yours the the top of the arch cracked when I first brought it up to temperature. Do you think it will be all right or is there something I should do to stop it?

@TyrellKnifeworks День назад

You could try patching it with satanite. You probably rushed firing it up, which caused the crack. You need to let these dry for 4-5 days before firing it up. As long as the burner is stable and the crack isn’t getting worse, you’re probably fine.

@christianbaum1165 2 месяца назад

Just stepped over this amazing video. I‘m planing to build a ribbon burner and the a new forge too. This one one gave me some decent information. Thanks! Can you tell how the forge did its job the last 2 years?

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 месяца назад

I use it regularly and it’s going strong. I used it just yesterday to teach a cumai class. 😉. Thanks for watching.

@SteveKomar 10 месяцев назад

Great video, as always. Starting my build, but had a question. With your 13" burner, you had a 2" intake. If my burner is shorter would I reduce the size of my intake as well? Thanks

@TyrellKnifeworks 10 месяцев назад

I would not reduce the pipe. You will have a gate valve anyway so better to have more flow than you need and just restrict it. Thanks for watching.

@busbey61 2 года назад

Hi, I own a pallet remanufacturing business and we go through saw blades all the time and I was wondering if there is any value in the blades? I am looking for creative ways to get rid of them and possibly reduce my overhead buy selling the dull blades at a fraction of what I get them for.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

It totally depends on the steel the blades are made from. Check the manufacturer. If the are 15n20 or L6 steel then it would be worth it. Likely though they are bi-metal and made by combining steels so the blade itself isn’t good knife steel, just the teeth.

@NjordArtisan 2 года назад

Hot damn! I'll definitely switch to a ribbon burner with my next forge. Two extra style points for the swirl and for the #wfijoke 🤣 Great build, Denis!

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

It turned out even better than I hoped! Thanks for checking it out, Sven!

@jeffreyyoung4104 Год назад

Never use galvanized pipe for gas. Always use black pipe for gas! Other than that, excellent!

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

That pipe never gets hot so it really doesn’t matter. Plus I couldn’t find black in that size when I looked. 😉. Thanks for watching.

@BrianHieberBullMtnCustomKnives Год назад

Thank you for putting this video together. Building your version right now. Curious, how heavy is the cylinder/refractory portion without the burner and such? Do you know the max heat that the burner produces? TIA.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

For mine, since it’s 3/8” thick it’s REALLY heavy, but it was gifted to me do I used it. With the refractory it’s easily around 100 lbs or so. I can easily push the forge up past 2300F and still have room to higher but that’s as far as I’ve pushed it. Thanks for watching.

@tobymartens6275 10 месяцев назад

Awesome build Denis. I'm looking to build one about the same size. How much dry refractory did you use for it? Cheers Toby

@TyrellKnifeworks 10 месяцев назад

Hey Toby, I used about 25-30 lbs of kastolite on this one. Thanks for watching.

@iamroy5993 Год назад

Denis... Just curious, you have been running this forge design for about 6 months now if memory serves. Is there anything that you wish you had done differently? I am using your design ideas to replace my old venturi forge and was wondering. Thanks... Love your channel friend.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

Nothing I’d change. It’s working perfectly. Thanks for watching!

@brooksmartin5183 2 года назад

Awesome upgrade Denis. Thanks for sharing your thoughts process in the design.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Thanks for checking it out, Brooks!

@schwartztekllc Год назад

So the swirl is better than the burner directly impinging upon the work piece on the floor? I assume it mixes things up better to more evenly distribute heat. I'll watch more videos - just thinking of building a forge for my 10yr old.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

It’s never a good idea to have the burner directly on your work. That just burns the carbon out of your work. Thanks for watching.

@jad21964 2 года назад

IMHO its not pretty good... its really really good. That was amazing how well it worked.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Thanks for taking a look!

@FieryFeatherForge Год назад

Hello Denis. I have almost the exact same size metal pipe I pulled from my grandads scrap pile. How much refractory did you use for the burner and the forge itself? Getting an order together and want to make sure I have enough so there aren’t any cold joints in the refectory.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

I used about 2/3 of a 55 lbs bag. Best to just get one of those and have extra.

@JB_CUSTOM_KNIVES 9 месяцев назад

Hi. I want to make the same stove as yours, but recently someone told me that such a burner has huge gas consumption. Could you tell me from your experience if this is true? And at what pressure do you work? Best regards

@TyrellKnifeworks 9 месяцев назад

That is absolutely untrue. In fact they are usually better on gas than Venturi burners. Pressure is NOT something you can compare. The psi is totally dependent on the size of the hole that delivers the gas. With a larger hole it has less back pressure hence reads a lower psi. Some ribbon burners are setup with a 3/8”-1/2” hole and thus read about .5 - 1 psi. Mine has a 3/16” hole (on purpose) so it reads about 8 psi. It’s the actual flow rate that matters which is very hard to determine. I know from experience that this ribbon burner forge gets WAY hotter than my previous double-Venturi and reaches about 2300F or higher. It goes through fuel less that the Venturi burners (but only slightly) and is much more controllable. Thanks for watching.

@jamesr.waters6848 Год назад

What are the major differences between a ribbon burner and a venturi burner? Such as fuel consumption, heat output, and the benefits of each. Perhaps a future video or just a comment; I've been finding very limited information on these things.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

The Venturi burner draws air in, so it requires a lot of gas flow in order to create that Venturi effect. They have less control that a forced air burner. It’s quite easy to make a fuel rich or air rich environment with a forced air system, so it’s mostly control. The ribbon burner will give you even heat over the entire area of the forge rather than hot spots. Both use relatively the same amount of fuel. Thanks for watching.

@billwoehl3051 7 месяцев назад

Pretty sure this is the first ribbon burner video ive seen after months of looking that says anything about the CFM of the blower.

@TyrellKnifeworks 7 месяцев назад

Yeah, you want around 400 cfm. That’s actually too much for this forge but that’s why you have a gate valve. Better too much than not enough. Thanks for watching

@lucasferla7899 10 месяцев назад

Nice build. One question: how long are your 2" pipes?

@TyrellKnifeworks 10 месяцев назад

I have a 4” pipe coming off the fan, then the air gate valve, then a 12” pipe to a 45 degree then into the elbow into the forge. Thanks for watching

@robertmillard4408 2 года назад

Am I the only one that thought “those straws never gunna hold up!” How wrong was I 😂 nice build 👍👍 what was the screw for where the gas injector pipe goes in ??

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

The straws work really well here. That screw is just a set screw so it stays tight. Thanks for watching, Robert.

@jdmec81 2 года назад

Is there anything I’d need to build different if I ran a setup like this off natural gas? (Still waiting to ensure I can run sufficient flow/pressure of natural gas from my house to my shop)

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

I don't know much about natural gas. I do think there is a slightly different setup but I'm not sure what it is. Google it I guess. Thanks for watching.

@Stillpoint23 Год назад

Think sourdough bread when mixing refractory, good tip!

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

Yeah, maybe a bit thinner than that though. Thanks for watching

@donbunker7781 2 года назад

Looking forward to seeing this in action.Great build

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

You’ll see it in some videos soon! Some very cool builds coming up.

@HammersAndWheels Год назад

Nice looking forge. You are correct that pressure does not equal flow rate and the two are not interchangeable. However your comments about the regulator, closed system and measuring back pressure are incorrect.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

How so?

@mistere947 Год назад

I like idea of having the heat swirling as I'm sure this would produce a much more consistent heat of your material you are working on. I am wondering if spot where there burner hits the refactory will deteriorate quicker over time. Having used it now for six months are you seeing any excessive wear in that particular area?

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

There’s no deterioration at all. The kastolite is rated to 3000 degrees and this probably tops out around 2500F in the hottest areas. This is a very common design too. Thanks for watching

@MrBill-ee4mr Год назад

Thanks. There's a company selling ribbon burners for like $500 😂

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

Wow, that’s pricey. Housemade sells them for $200. You can build one for less of course but you need to know what you’re doing. Thanks for watching

@anthonyluc389 Год назад

Hey mate I'm adding my solenoid now (looks the same as yours), it comes with 2 red wires, i found the live wire works the solenoid off incoming power, what is the second wire for coming off the solenoid for?

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

It depends. Mine was AC power so it was just hooked up to black/white. Thanks for watching.

@markramey5437 Год назад

What is between the form for the forge chamber and the kao wool? Is that just chicken wire? I noticed it before you poured and am guessing that it is there to help strengthen the refractory and keep the kao wool from collapsing.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

It was chicken wire to hold back the kaowool. It actually was a pain in the ass and I removed it for the second pour. Thanks for watching, Mark.

@antonemilit2178 3 месяца назад

Has the elevated forge height worked for you? Doesn't it blast heat in your face?

@TyrellKnifeworks 3 месяца назад

It’s the perfect height. You want to be able to see into your forge to look at your workpiece. Thanks for watching.

@paulmanhart4481 7 месяцев назад

Why not introduce your gas near the air blower, to allow it room to integrate and mix well? What is the disadvantage of having a long pipe with air and gas mixture?

@TyrellKnifeworks 7 месяцев назад

It really doesn’t matter. I’ve updated this forge and added a PID controller so the current setup is a bit different. Thanks for watching.

@blaneyblades4810 2 года назад

12:50, lol. I have a bumper sticker on my truck that says "Eat beef the West wasn't won on salad"

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Ha, love it!

@benterbieten9540 2 года назад

Wonky, love the high powered scientific jargon, lol

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

It’s a very serious science term. 😜. It goes with willy-nilly.

@anthonyluc389 Год назад

Love the build. Mine is very similar in design and works beautifully thanks to your help. You spoke about the backpressure psi. I'm curious what yours would be set at for forge welding in this and do you open your air valve fully? Thanks

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

I run at 11 psi to forge weld and that’s with a 3/16” orifice. I still have room on the fan to go higher. Thanks for watching.

@anthonyluc389 Год назад

Thanks mate

@richardsawford9132 Год назад

Fantastic, I’m not in the US so I will be sourcing the materials here in Tasmania. Can I ask what the gas consumption is v your old forge? Great work, love your knives.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

I think it’s comparable to my old forge in gas consumption. It’s way hotter and more distributed heat though. Thanks for watching, Richard.

@richardsawford9132 Год назад

Thanks. Really appreciate the feedback.

@pyropocket 2 года назад

That's a great build. a pid controller would be a great future upgrade.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Yeah, but I don’t really need accuracy in the forge since I have a separate heat treating oven. Thanks for watching.

@timhagen5425 7 месяцев назад

How did you close the back end of the forge? Very nice build!!

@TyrellKnifeworks 7 месяцев назад

There’s a hanging door on the back. It hangs has notches that hang on a bar so you can raise it lower it. Thanks for watching.

@ForgeandFairway Год назад

Just stumbled across your channel, great video!! I love the way you did the door ill have to add that to mine at somepoint. One question I had, what was the reasoning for "sleeving" the brass gas tube into the 2" pipe as opposed to using a tee fitting with a reducer and threading it in? Not trying to criticize, just genuinely curious!

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

It would have been better to thread it. I wanted a cap at the end because there’s a 3/16” orifice so there’s a little back pressure and I couldn’t figure out how to thread it at that point. I’ll probably redo it at some point and just thread it in. Thanks for watching!

@ForgeandFairway Год назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks hey man thanks for the quick reply!! I have a very similarly sized forge to yours with a ribbon burner and I have the 1/4" brass just threaded in, that's why I asked! I have some solid brass roundstock laying around...I might drill a 3/16" hole through it and solder it inside the 1/4" brass tubing and see how it works. Thanks again!

@iamroy5993 2 года назад

Quick question for you Denis... Do you recall how many pounds of refractory you used for the forge and how many for the burner? I am starting to put together the bits and pieces I will need. My old venturi forge still works, but its days are surely numbered!!! Rather than reline that one I would rather do the new design. Thanks

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

It has a pretty thick interior of refractory. I think I went through about 30 lbs because I bought a 55lbs bag and went through 2/3's of it. It's cheaper to just buy the 55lbs bag anyway.

@iamroy5993 2 года назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks Outstanding… Thanks for the fast response!

@billwoehl3051 Год назад

Now that it's been close to a year, do you regret not making the inside wider?

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

No not at all. It’s as wide as a firebrick which is perfect. It heats up quick. The problem with my last one was that I made the chamber too big and it took too long to heat up. Thanks for watching, Bill.

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@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

What does this comment have to with this video???

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@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

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@tomfromstthomas 7 месяцев назад

A pair of dividers and a combo square with speed up and improve accuracy

@TyrellKnifeworks 7 месяцев назад

Can you elaborate on how they would be used in making this forge?

@naeemzahid9516 2 года назад

Hope of nation only Imran khan Ya mery Pak parwardighar mery Pak watan ki or Imran khan ki hifazat farmana AAMEEN

@brickroadbladeworks4630 2 года назад

On my to do list! Great video as always and thanks for sharing the good and the bad that goes into making such projects.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Thanks for checking it out. I'm really happy with it.

@blaneyblades4810 2 года назад

17:00. Is that a Deadpool coffee mug? I don't even drink coffee but I want that mug

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

It sure is, I have Deadpool everything, shirts, socks, mugs, underwear. 🤣

@blaneyblades4810 2 года назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks lol, I love I dude!

@edwardlance2379 Год назад

How long will it run on a tank of gas, considering average temps/settings across a session?

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

Probably around 15-20 hours, depending if you are forge welding or not. Thanhs for watching.

@bluudat1site Год назад

do you enjoy using that wen metal band saw? been thinking about picking one up

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

It’s a great saw actually. Don’t cheap out on blades though, get good ones. Thanks for watching n

@jhdaniels1 2 года назад

Good evening Dennis, I have looked through your links, but have failed to find a link to the yellow fire bricks. Can you let me know where you acquired them? Thank you.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

The yellow fire bricks you can get anywhere. Most big box stores have them but if you can’t find them, here’s a link: amzn.to/3aeJ9HX. Note, these are just for the floor, not for the walls because they do not have good insulation. Thanks for watching

@jhdaniels1 2 года назад

Thank you for the information. I am getting ready to build my first forge. I really enjoyed your first and second ribbon forges and plan to combine aspects of both in my forge. Thank you so much for sharing!

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

@@jhdaniels1 I’m glad the builds are helping you. Thanks for watching

@GreenRayJC 11 месяцев назад

8:17 "It is not good for you" Slight understatement there.

@TyrellKnifeworks 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for checking out this build, Raymond.

@Stillpoint23 Год назад

How many cutting wheels did it take to cut the piece out for the burner?

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

Ha, about 5 I think. It wasn’t fun. Thanks for watching

@viitainen 2 года назад

nice forge, can you tell wich psi you operate your ribbon burner?

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

The psi isn’t really a good comparison as I said because it depends on the size of the orifice feeding the gas. I have a 3/16” hole and I run the psi at about 7 with the needle valve about half open. Thanks for watching

@chodie4u 2 года назад

I'm curious why you didn't use your mill to make the cutout for the refractory on the piece of square tubing?

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

That would take 4 times longer. Precision was not necessary so there’s no point in using the mill.

@chodie4u 2 года назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks Gotcha, thanks for answering!

@jasonlasswell3912 2 года назад

Love your channel, I was wondering if you would share with me where you get your stencils?

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

I get my stencils from IMG Electromark. Call them instead of email, they don’t answer email well. Thanks for watching, Jason.

@jasonlasswell3912 2 года назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks Thank you sir.

@TheOldGuyPhil Год назад

Have you baked french bread in this yet???

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

Ha, that would be the fastest cooked bread in the world! Or more likely it would look like a piece of charcoal. 😜

@JaseC80 Год назад

When you opened it up full, I was waiting for you to ask ATC for permission to taxi to runway 28L !! 😮 Awesome build!!

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

Haha...yeah its a jet for sure! Thanks for watching

@erikcourtney1834 2 года назад

I love it, much better design. I wish I would have got that type of fan now. I almost did but bought the green centrifugal fan instead. It works fine but I would like a little more air so I can dabble in some crucible steel. Did you notice if this forge pushes a lot more heat out of the front than the other? Mine is very similar but it’s round and the swirling effect really pushes the heat out of the front. Hands get quite hot when using tongs even with welding gloves on.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

No, I haven’t noticed it push more heat outward. I usually have the doors closed though, so maybe. Thanks for watching, Erik!

@erikcourtney1834 2 года назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks yeah it only happens when the doors are open. What’s the heat up time to welding temp? Curious to how yours performs compared to mine. My refractory is only about 3/4”- 1” thick on top of 3” of wool.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

@@erikcourtney1834 I haven’t timed it with the gas/air turned up high, but I suspect about 5 mins. It’s crazy hot in there with the 13” burner. Total coverage, which is the main reason I built it this way.

@erikcourtney1834 2 года назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks that’s pretty impressive. I’m about 8.5 mins. With a 3x9 burner in an 8x20 chamber. It doesn’t like to go below 1700* either. Don’t think my blower has enough power to push past the partially closed valve and still have enough volume to mix with the gas well. Think I’m going to try the inline blower now if it’s working good for you. I was skeptical at first when looking at them.

@michaelmurphy2112 2 года назад

I'm not as experienced with air systems, but in liquid systems, gate valves aren't great for throttling flow, they're better suited for on/off (or flow/no flow) applications. It's been a few years since I took the classes, but I believe they get around 80-90% of full flow when they're around 10% open (again, talking about liquid here). I don't know if the same holds for a gas system, but it might mess with the air/gas mixture.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

With air they are pretty proportional to amount it’s open. You can see it as the gate opens/closes that the flow increases/decreases evenly. Thanks for watching.

@nhsboosterclub-lt2rx Год назад

Wouldn't suck to cut metal if you oiled what you cut

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

I’m not sure I understand your comment.

@WesKerbs Год назад

Mr. Tyrell, I get so much out of your videos. I'd like to say thank you for sharing all this info with me and the community. I'm currently building this forge and just cut and screwed the 8" sono tube to a 4.5" wide piece of scrap wood as you show here at 5:25. I'm wondering why my form is 11+" high lol. Did you cut out a 4.5 inch section of the tube? How tall is your forge interior? Thanks again and keep making videos!

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

Yes, I did cut a portion of the tube at the bottom so the hole was about 9” tall. Thanks for watching.

@feraltrafficcone4483 Год назад

Oh sweet, the metal website I’m using has the pipe needed for the forge. 12” wide, .375” thick walls Oh man that pipe is gonna be $300

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

What?! 3 feet of black pipe with a 90 bend is $300? Where are you shopping ?! You can buy this at your local hardware store.

@feraltrafficcone4483 Год назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks oh no no no, I meant the pipe you used for the body of the forge 😂

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

@@feraltrafficcone4483 Ohhhh... no don't buy something like that. Use an old air compressor tank or something similar. Someone gave me that piece of pipe so I used it. It's 3/8" and extremely heavy so not optimal for a forge body. 😉

@feraltrafficcone4483 Год назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks fair enough! ‘Preciate the advice

@grelork 2 года назад

Quick question! At 3:58 you say to not put holes in the baffle plate directly at the fuel/air input but then at 7:27 the baffle has holes in it where you said not to put them! Is there any reason behind this at all?

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

I figured I’d put a few. I just meant don’t put lots of holes there or all the flow will just go to the center of the burner only and not get to the ends

@grelork 2 года назад

Well they clearly didn't affect the burners performance, great even looking burn! Thanks for the answer :)

@awsamole 2 года назад

painting a 1/4 inch of refactory on my insulation seems kind of silly now lol.

@awsamole 2 года назад

Damn... thats a forge turned out really well. Nice job.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

The fiber blanket forges with the thin refractory still retain a lot of heat so don't knock them. They just don't last as long. Castable refractory is like cement so they last forever. For this one, I just replace the bottom firebrick which is meant to be consumable. They are much more expensive though, so consider that. Thanks for checking it out, Sam!

@jvmiller1995 Год назад

Two Words for you. "Cutting Torch"!! Besides in black or blade smithing they come in very handy. I run mine on propane with a special 2 piece tip.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

I have a cutting torch, but then I have to deal with the ragged edge and grind it anyway. Thanks for watching, Jeremy.

@Stillpoint23 2 года назад

Those inline fans can be safely controlled by a rheostat (fan speed controller). I'm not sure whether back pressure on the fan motor from limiting air flow with a valve will have any ill effect on the life of the motor or not, but using a dial may prove more precise when calibrating the air/fuel mixture. Maybe its overkill, but as an old friend once said, "if its worth building, it's worth over building." Also, craigslist might be a good place to find those fans for cheap. The smallest one that I'm aware of is 4". If you go that route, include key words like: hydroponics, or indoor growing, as these fans are commonly used for environmental control when growing cannabis indoors.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

The fan I went with was $70. It’s more powerful than I need and it works great. Even if it dies in a year or two, it was $70. 🤷‍♂️

@Melicoy 2 года назад

9:20 I thought that was my babe crying lol.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

🤣

@skipholmes9040 2 года назад

Why didn`t you just buy a black iron coupling and skip the de galvanizing process? Also if you cut the coupling in half, you may find a need for the other half sometime. I`m not trying to pick on ya, just comments from an old steam fitter.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

That certainly was my first choice but neither Lowes or Home Depot near me had 2” black pipe fittings.

@Stillpoint23 Год назад

Kaowool is more itchy than pink insulation! I had to use blue tape to pull put all of those little suckers!

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

It’s certainly not good for you. You should use gloves and a respirator if you handle it more than a little bit.

@Stillpoint23 Год назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks I did, but it still made its way thru my darn shirt!

@iamroy5993 2 года назад

Totally steeling this and your ribbon burner design!!! You’re awesome man!!!

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Steel away! Thanks for taking a look!

@jordansteier Год назад

You're a inspiration for the craft and love watching all your videos. I'm planning on getting started! I've just finished up my Revolution Grinder from Brian House and am now on to building this forge:) My question is: how many pounds of refractory did you use? Will 55lbs be enough for a 16"x18" in your opinion? Thank you for all you do and the information, big fan from Alberta Canada 🇨🇦

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

It's great to hear from fellow Canadians, Jordan! I think I used about 2/3rd's of a 55 lbs bag. Note, I used a different refractor for the burner so don't count that. Thanks for following the channel!

@Fortunes.Fool. 2 года назад

I don't need a forge but I wish I had time to make one.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

I love making forges. Though I think this one will last me quite a while. Thanks for watching.

@paulmanhart4481 7 месяцев назад

How do you tap your hammer so fast Geppetto?😬

@TyrellKnifeworks 7 месяцев назад

I’m a fast worker! 😜. Thanks for watching.

@mrrberger Год назад

Wow that was awesome hard work on the ribbon burner, you could just drill a light weight fire brick. Went the drill way myself, lasted 3 years so far.

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

They typically don’t last and aren’t as tough as castable refractory. You’ve been lucky. Thanks for watching.

@rapt3rclaw712 2 года назад

Hi again, compared your previous build to this one, did you not use the twisted flat inside the pipe this time to make sure the gas and air mix properly? For the casting of my burner and the refractory inside the forge I am making 3D printed molds so if I have to make more forges or something I can just cast into the same mold and then push a completed refractory unit into the center of the wool.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

I don't think I really needed the baffle in the other build either. So long as you have at least one 90 degree elbow you're usually fine. My problem with the last one was the size of the hole for the gas, it was too small. Honestly, I think the wood mold is easier (for burners at least). You just unscrew it to get the burner out and its still completely reusable. Getting the burner/forge out of the 3D mold is a bit of a challenge without destroying it. Thanks for watching, Jacques.

@rapt3rclaw712 2 года назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks for the reply, ok so then that's one thing I don't have to worry about is the baffle, I will have 2 x 90 deg before it hits the burner, will let you know if the mold survives the cast, at this point it's trial and error bit I do have it tapered a bit so should just be able to slide off (lets hope)

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

@@rapt3rclaw712 it probably depends on the refractory. The Greencast wouldn’t likely “slide off”. I have to give the wood boards a whack to release them even after unscrewing them.

@rapt3rclaw712 2 года назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks Yea we will see if this is a good or bad idea, if the mold breaks it breaks lol will scratch my head afterwards hahahaha. This whole build is a trail and error, so will see how it comes out

@nonamecieso9506 2 года назад

Is that white cement normally used in house construction?

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

No, not at all. It’s special high temperature refractory cement that can withstand 3000F temperatures. Regular cement would crumble away at that heat.

@nonamecieso9506 2 года назад

@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks a lot

@thebigshmoog 2 года назад

I'm 6'3"... My forge sits on an old rolling TV stand (remember those from school? - yeah, I just aged myself)... So yeah, I get it. So nice to be able to look straight into the forge, rather than bent over. Great build! You've got me thinking now for when it's time for a forge upgrade.

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

It sure is great having it at eye level! Thanks for watching!

@HeavyForge 2 года назад

Right on!!🔥👌🏻

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

It works better than I imagined it would!

@tomdoyle5579 2 года назад

I’m lying in bed with covid watching your build. I hope it looks easier once I’m feeling better. Right now crossing the hall to the bathroom looks difficult! I really like the swirl effect!

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

It's actually a pretty easy build. Sorry to hear you've got the 'Rona. I hope you feel better soon and all this makes more sense. 😜

@marciofernandobarci 2 года назад

hi Tyrell - thanks for sharing - this is the best forge system - more efficient and rational, spends less gaz and have very high temperatures - -much more we need. I made the mine with some alterations - I projected a double chamber burner, so that, while forging single blades I only use one chamber. When forging long blades or need more temperatures - fire both chambers...it works perfectly. Regards from Brazil

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

A double chamber is good idea if it doesn't suck too much heat when its not on. Thanks for watching, Marcio.

@Divljina9 2 года назад

sir how you hit all the holes with the straws on 16:20

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

The holes in the baffle don’t line up with the straws. There is an air gap between the underside of the burner and the baffle. You just need to make sure you don’t hit the straws with the baffle and move them. 👍

@paulmanhart4481 7 месяцев назад

Damn. Great job. Paul

@TyrellKnifeworks 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching, Paul!

@blaneyblades4810 2 года назад

Just before you said you love the swirling action I was looking at it thinking to myself holy s*** that looks great

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

It turned out better than I expected. 👍

@keithf5883 2 года назад

Blink! Damn it man, BLINK!!!

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Are you saying I don’t blink in my videos? Hmm, maybe I don’t. Those are usually short clips. 😜

@davidnickisson2555 2 года назад

Would it not heat one side of a billet more than the other?

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Yeah slightly, but the. You just flip it over occasionally. Most forges do this. It’s much better than the heat going directly down on your steel. Thanks for watching

@mikestewartakastewie5685 2 года назад

Thanks Denis!!! You just made it way easier for me to build mine…. I think I even have the same pipe I salvaged from work…👍👍👍👍

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

That’s great, I’m happy it helped. 👍

@dragonlord4401 Год назад

Great looking forge, love the design. I am going to have to set myself up a ribbon burner forge as well. Thanks

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

They are certainly a great option for even heat distribution. Thanks for watching.

@blaneyblades4810 2 года назад

NICE!!!

@KenwayJoel 8 месяцев назад

Plastic straws! Oh how I miss thee

@TyrellKnifeworks 8 месяцев назад

No kidding! I live in California, the land of paper straws. 🙄. Thanks for watching.

@Baldmanblades 2 года назад

Nice job my Forge friend

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Thanks for checking out the build, Barry

@patw999 2 года назад

Really sweet. Good job.....

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Thanks for checking it out!

@HDBrown-wc9xt 2 года назад

Awesome build. You need to name it ! The Tyrell-o-saurus , maybe?

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Yeah true, I should name it. I already have Elvis Press-ley, maybe this is the hunka hunka burnin love. 🤣🤣

@tonyspencer9350 Год назад

Great forge I (expletive) love it

@TyrellKnifeworks Год назад

Thanks for checking out this build, Tony!

@Wezzaaaa 2 года назад

Nice build ive been trying to make something similar to this but being 14 ive been struggling to get the materials and things hopefully I can get it done soon

@TyrellKnifeworks 2 года назад

Just take your time and get the right stuff. Particularly the right refractory. Do NOT try the stuff from Home Depot or your hardware store. Get the kast-o-lite 30.