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How to build a simple laser tachometer 

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Did you know you can use an LED as a light sensor? In this video I show you how to use this phenomenon to build a laser tachometer capable of measuring the RPM of mechanical devices.
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@power-max
@power-max 9 лет назад
With the right LEDs, you can use the one LED to power another LED. I had a setup while I was interning at NASA where one super bright red LED was shining on another one of the same LEDs, and that LED was connected directly to a 3rd red LED, powering it! I measured around 2V or so on my meter without load! It was very dim, you could just barely see the die glowing, but enough to be an impressive proof-of-concept. (I was measuring the slew rate of the LED as a sensor compared to other 'real' sensors.)
@wooooby
@wooooby 9 лет назад
At first i thought it said "laser tacometer" I was excited to finally measure the amount of tacos I had.
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 9 лет назад
I changed my name to I started making a video on laser tacometers but I found it impossible to get an accurate reading because I couldn't stop eating the tacos.
@wooooby
@wooooby 9 лет назад
Afrotechmods Hehehe. But seriously though, great tutorial.
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 9 лет назад
A phototransistor/photodiode would indeed be the logical choice. But I didn't have one lying around and I thought it would be more fun to show people the LED trick. In the video I was referring to CdS photoresistors being slow.
@goodwill7643
@goodwill7643 9 лет назад
+Afrotechmods that was good video. I have photoresistors and infrared sensors and Emmitors, but didn't have idea about this trick.:) Thanks
@jakobhovman
@jakobhovman 8 лет назад
+Afrotechmods The solution here, is to Mount the led on the nose and the laser pointer module on the chin. I would call it: "Lazy" Tacometer.
@olafhannappel698
@olafhannappel698 9 лет назад
Great, useful and crisp tutorial. Thanks!
@kihunsong1522
@kihunsong1522 9 лет назад
Lovely work Afro. Can you do a video about comparators and how to use them to make a short circuit protection circuit??
@wladius
@wladius 6 лет назад
awesome idea, had to try it out. first important discovery is, that when working with red laser, it works only with red diode. I'll try it with green laser and diode, once I find the green laser pointer.
@aerobyrdable
@aerobyrdable 9 лет назад
I've got another one for this! This morning, I wanted to know how fast a motor, which was not connected to anything, so had no fan blade or anything for a tachometer to work on, was spinning. I put a small neodymium magnet on the side of the output shaft and simply held my oscilloscope probe next to it. as it spun, it induced a very measurable voltage in the probe.
@romanyufa4433
@romanyufa4433 9 лет назад
Great videos! Looking forward to seeing more.
@can6195
@can6195 9 лет назад
Simple and interesting
@Shriram29199
@Shriram29199 8 лет назад
I just though by hooking up the same thing to an arduino and using it to measure the minute changes in current and using an 8 bit display and output the RPM and just to complicate the project use an input mode for arduino and get the number of blades and use that to process too.
@FishKungfu
@FishKungfu 9 лет назад
Very cool! Thanks for the tip!
@cutzwithrazzor
@cutzwithrazzor 9 лет назад
Awesome Vid....might have to break this out in class to impress my electronics instructor. it will more that likely stump him at first! lol.
@touragrapher
@touragrapher 2 года назад
An application im building needs me to measure the rpm and this is a great input to it. However, I do have a query. If the surfaces of the emitter or receiver is subjected to a dusty or mucky environmental conditions, I highly doubt the readings will be accurate or will emit any reading considering they are sort of blind folded. Any advice or other methods to overcome this?
@lilliampumpernickel9916
@lilliampumpernickel9916 7 лет назад
Using this method i found out how to build on of those laser alarm things ypu see in movies using a signal amplifier and an arduino
@Apple.Repair
@Apple.Repair 9 лет назад
Again another great videos thanks a lot!
@leadfootlawnmower2762
@leadfootlawnmower2762 9 лет назад
be cool to have more videos like these.
@ProfessorOzone
@ProfessorOzone 3 месяца назад
If you use it outside, does the sun interfere with the signal?
@DigGil3
@DigGil3 9 лет назад
Just so you know: This effect is described in one of Forrest Mims' books.
@austinhively7272
@austinhively7272 9 лет назад
Whats the effect called? I want to know how the laser produces an electric current through the LED
@homemadelaboratory3140
@homemadelaboratory3140 8 лет назад
+Austin Hively Photovoltaic
@MyBigThing2010
@MyBigThing2010 7 лет назад
Austin Hively pots the same way a solar panel works....you can actually builds an adhoc solar cell from LEDs
@LifeOfPabs
@LifeOfPabs 9 лет назад
wow this is fantastic! thanks for sharing :)
@savadimitrijevic7370
@savadimitrijevic7370 8 лет назад
+Afrotechmods svaka ti cast teslin si naslednik vidi se da si srbin i hvala ti sto ima prevod
@hankhomaomes2830
@hankhomaomes2830 12 дней назад
Hi, I m a noob and recently got into arduino , so if i will need a osciloscope to make this ? is there an alternative ?
@SWAT-qb2qy
@SWAT-qb2qy 9 лет назад
Good one I like it
@ReinkeDK
@ReinkeDK 9 лет назад
Didn't know that, thanks :)
@putraadriansyah8082
@putraadriansyah8082 5 лет назад
Can you make a tachometer with arduino for 6 cylinder engine using this setup?
@csselement
@csselement 4 года назад
So this is a photodiode, right?
@jewtubeizghey8206
@jewtubeizghey8206 8 лет назад
Will a multimeter measure the frequemcy of half rectified sine waves?
@constanzo84
@constanzo84 8 лет назад
That would depend on the frequency and the sampling rate of the DMM, my Fluke 87V is able to register them, for this i use the Hi Res function...
@SkaterK3
@SkaterK3 9 лет назад
Afrotechmods What is the reason for using a red LED for this? Is just what you had laying around or was it most compatible with the laser diode that you had?
@toasty4000000
@toasty4000000 9 лет назад
SkaterK3 Well, I cant speak on the actual emitter, but I can say that since the plastic shell around the LED was red, red light passes through it better than any other color light, so a red LED combo's with the red laser would immediately be better for that reason.
@SkaterK3
@SkaterK3 9 лет назад
Kakunapod Okay that's what I thought. I am wondering if a Blue LED (with a higher forward voltage) will produce a stronger response than a red LED. I think this is worth a try but I imagine that there is a small cost offset considering how expensive blue laser diodes are compared to red ones.
@hopeful1521
@hopeful1521 4 года назад
you're the beest hhh wow
@Flankymanga
@Flankymanga 9 лет назад
Any easy explanation what physics is behind this?
@DigGil3
@DigGil3 9 лет назад
+Flankymanga In a lazy explanation I could refer to a "Faraday principle", when you build a motor you can use it as a generator, when you build a speaker you can use it as a microphone, etc. As I understand, when an LED (read a semiconductor junction) is crossed by electrons, these electrons must quantum leap to switch material. Because they fall in orbital, the atoms emit light (as any atom where electrons leap around for some reason). When any kind of material receives photons of proper frequency, the electrons will leap so that the atom absorbs the photon. On a LED, the absorption of the photon forces electrons to skip across the semiconductor types and so this generates a voltage (as in photo-electric effect). That's the quantum physics explanation for you.
@oreganodealerlsog8630
@oreganodealerlsog8630 9 лет назад
+Flankymanga just look for photoelectric effect. Einstein got his nobelprice for this
@toasty4000000
@toasty4000000 9 лет назад
WIRELESS POWER TRANSFER VIA LASERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha
@RcNerd
@RcNerd 7 лет назад
i want to build a speed tester what would i need as i need to know the MPH
@RcNerd
@RcNerd 7 лет назад
***** nope still confused dot com
@1sword4you
@1sword4you 9 лет назад
KEWL!
@constanzo84
@constanzo84 8 лет назад
How is the "real" tachometer you use in the end built? What kind of sensor picks up the speed, and does the laser itself have anything with the measurement to do, or is just a "pointer"? I´d like to build something like that to take control measurements of flywheel RPM on my boats engine so I can input the right dividing factor in the engine tach...
@MrOperettalover
@MrOperettalover 8 лет назад
If you are serious about those questions I suggest you go back and play with wooden toys.
@constanzo84
@constanzo84 8 лет назад
MrOperettalover I just wonder as I don't know, very sorry for being so uninformed! If you are still serious with your reply, I suggest you go back to the shithole you came from and be nice when you come back! Geeez...
@MrOperettalover
@MrOperettalover 8 лет назад
Kenny Constanzo I never understood nice. My goal in life is to collect enemies - preferably stupid ones like you. I suggest you limit your questions to the level you're on.
@constanzo84
@constanzo84 8 лет назад
I pity you, goodbye.
@MrOperettalover
@MrOperettalover 8 лет назад
Kenny Constanzo Funny how they who need it the most are the first to feeling sorry for others.
@JustinHallPlus
@JustinHallPlus 8 лет назад
It's not the volts that kills you, it's the murderer.
@giannislymperopoylos5574
@giannislymperopoylos5574 7 лет назад
CAN YOU USE A DIGITAL MULTIMETER WITH HZ READING??
@RSP13
@RSP13 7 лет назад
Sure. A decent multimeter can use a signal with a Peak-to-peak voltage as low as 400mV (an LED will give much more than necessary) to measure frequencies of several kHz (much more than you will need in most occasions)
@RSP13
@RSP13 7 лет назад
Also, to analyse signals up to 20kHz you can make your own poor man's osciloscope with a few diodes, resistors, free software (for non-commercial use) and the microfone jack of your computer. Most sound cards can sample 24bits@192kHz and will do the trick just fine. Search on google for "Soundcard Scope - Christian Zeitnitz" and "Sound Card Oscilloscope | Make: - Make Magazine"
@FrankLopezx
@FrankLopezx 9 лет назад
Afrotechmods maybe i can get some tips on my multimeter, i think im following you corrrectly tho im not getting any results, here i have i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce07b8c-af65/k2-_9d4c0362-9e07-4569-b98c-1cef69142a20.v1.jpg and i have all sorts of LED's as well as that same type of laser pointer. as far as my multimeter i have the red plug on DC10A "far left port" and the black plug in the middle COM port and the dial i have it set to DC mA which is the 1st CW blue box according to this link i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce07b8c-af65/k2-_9d4c0362-9e07-4569-b98c-1cef69142a20.v1.jpg i did also tried the yellow box next to that DC mA and either gave me a reading thanks in advance some question that might simplify my understanding of your results might be * does it matter how much current or voltage your supplying the laser diode? * does it matter what polarity you have the led hooked to the multimeter? " anode to + , cathode to - vise versa on the multimeter? " * does it matter the color of the led? side note i am looking to implement this type of design using some sort of pcb /breakout board setup which can read this value as your video and have that read wire plugged to my arduino so i can run IF statements in the IF void loop section this is for my robotic design i am currently using a magnetic hall sensor which requires a magnet and a ic hall sensor and i think this setup you have here will be much better weight wise as both of your items weights less than my current setup..........as always thanks for your videos!
@Xenro66
@Xenro66 9 лет назад
God damn it... I wish this was released like 2 weeks earlier. I was curious how fast the tail blade on my 6h RC helicopter was rotating, and I didn't have a tachometer. My next best thing? Get a microphone, record the audio right next to the blade, put it in audacity, get the time between 2 peaks and convert it into RPM (then divide by the number of blades on the rotor) xD
@353click
@353click 9 лет назад
Nice, that's a great solution
@onjofilms
@onjofilms 9 лет назад
Jordan O'C I think your solution for this instance is easier. So I wouldn't cuss about it.
@Xenro66
@Xenro66 9 лет назад
***** I am everywhere.
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 9 лет назад
Jordan O'C If it's a Trex-style helicopter (with a shaft or belt to spin the tail rotor) then you can calculate the RPM from the main rotor RPM, I think mine was 7-to-1 tail/main last I checked.
@Xenro66
@Xenro66 9 лет назад
DFX2KX My heli has a 6:1 ratio between the tail and the main rotor I think, but I didn't know the rpm of the main rotor either.
@adamsucksatyt
@adamsucksatyt 4 года назад
Actually, you can hook up the LED to a headphone jack, and measure the frequency using an spectrum analyzer app or your phone. And since it's only 1.5V, it can't fry your phone! So whenever the LED is illuminated by the laser, it makes a "high" signal or it makes a "low" signal on the "microphone" input And then you just divide the frequency by the number of blades, and multiply it by 60. You can make an app that can measure the RPM for you, just enter the interruptions/1 rotation, and voila, you now know the RPM! :)
@aleksszukovskis2074
@aleksszukovskis2074 5 месяцев назад
so youre telling me i need just a nitrogen spark generator and a simple LED for makeshift home security?? It was that easy all along?
@leestons
@leestons 9 лет назад
Another great video as always. I just wish I had a scope now. Thanks! ps - Any chance you could make a video on how to read schematics? I understand basic circuits but I get confused when multiple components are connected together. A 555 timer circuit for example, I don't know what goes where.
@caseybalvert7161
@caseybalvert7161 9 лет назад
I love these tutorials. Ever since I was a kid, electronics have interested me. Much has changed over the past 55 years. While I don't build or do most of the stuff in these videos, I learn at least one thing from each. Great job.
@xmanxmansyr3147
@xmanxmansyr3147 9 лет назад
Good tutorial. what about laser to measure distant ?
@xmanxmansyr3147
@xmanxmansyr3147 9 лет назад
Good tutorial. what about laser to measure distant ?
@jolujo5842
@jolujo5842 5 лет назад
Very cool. 👍
@MattsInTheBelfry
@MattsInTheBelfry 9 лет назад
The video shows the laser shining on the fan's label. Does this work at all for a straight reading? A strobe tachometer works by reflection - not by the binary breaking of a beam - so it would work on continuous surfaces. I would love to be able to point my tachometer at any rotating object and get a reading.
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 9 лет назад
MattsInTheBelfry Sorry this was poor camerawork on my part. What is happening there is the laser is shining through the fan blades, then hitting the LED. The LED gets lit up very brightly, and since the fan's label is reflective it acts as a mirror and shows the camera the shiny LED. I am not measuring the reflection of the label, but I can see how it looked like that in the video.
@berndreiner7159
@berndreiner7159 6 лет назад
Fucking great job 👍👍👍👍 I love your videos.... thats the way how an practical engeneer like you explain things in a useful way.... 🙏🙏🙏 Perfect ... it seems like Great Scot looks up to your channel or the other way 😁😁 Greets from Austria in Europe
@noweare1
@noweare1 7 лет назад
Very good. Looking forward to your next video. Thank you.
@daniellukonis
@daniellukonis 9 лет назад
Very Cool!
@RAJESHMUNDOTIA-ql4si
@RAJESHMUNDOTIA-ql4si 2 года назад
Is data logging possible on PC using this design? I need to count the number of rotations as well as changes in the RPM with respect to time. Also, Is it possible to measure the RPM when keeping the laser source and sensor in the same direction (by reflection) as done by the available non-contact tachometer?. Please suggest
@nullfearmusic
@nullfearmusic 9 лет назад
I am so glad you are back! Your channel went dark for a while. As a fourth year EE student, I enjoy your videos!
@djtoddles8750
@djtoddles8750 5 лет назад
(anyone) at 0:23 the laser wires appear to have some shrink tubing around them, is that right? I'm have a similar laser which works fine but the wire is so thin I'm not sure how to hook it up for long term use. Just using some quick wire spring connectors for now. Any advice from the channel moderator or anyone one the boards is appreciated
@MrJefferson105
@MrJefferson105 9 лет назад
could you used any laser with any led or does it have to be red led and red laser beam ? thanks
@revimfadli4666
@revimfadli4666 5 лет назад
Maybe matching colors would generate the maximum voltage. Trying this with an RGB LED would be interesting
@fragonrod8
@fragonrod8 9 лет назад
Awesome! Thanks for the explanation, very useful.
@Razor2048
@Razor2048 9 лет назад
Is there a way to figure out the max response rate of an LED? e.g., have a function generator control a laser and then see at which point the LED is no longer able to differentiate between the pulses?
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 9 лет назад
Razor2048 Yup that would work. But you'd want to have a transistor amplifier circuit between the Fgen and the laser.
@gerrys6265
@gerrys6265 4 года назад
This is just a counter...then we have to do the calculation. It is the calculation which is the tachometer part. Is there a way to do this without an arduino? all tutorials her that I can find use the arduino.
@sovicheatep4530
@sovicheatep4530 8 лет назад
I wonder whether there is any disturbance when working in bright light environment.
@TheCerberusInferno
@TheCerberusInferno 5 лет назад
Thanks a lot my friend for this video .
@Filaxsan
@Filaxsan 9 лет назад
Awesome! Thanks for sharing
@Z-Ack
@Z-Ack 3 года назад
Believe thatd be called a frequency meter, not a tacho meter..
@bbjodel3778
@bbjodel3778 5 лет назад
Hi you share a arduino laser code and shematic for a rpm dc motor ?
@trevortjes
@trevortjes 8 лет назад
I'd like to use this trick to make an oscillator where the rpm of the motor determains the pitch of the (square wave) note. Would this be possible (ofcourse it is). Would it be worth it?
@ProXicT
@ProXicT 9 лет назад
Great video as always, thank you!
@jatigre1
@jatigre1 9 лет назад
I missed your videos!
@fabiomonteiro9298
@fabiomonteiro9298 8 лет назад
In case of propeller rmp measurement on an airmodel, where can I place the laser? The sensor LED could be placed at the fuselage. Sorry for my bad english, I'm brazilian. Thanks.
@Lskaggs63
@Lskaggs63 9 лет назад
Good video, I performed a lot of these tests back in the late 1970's but LED technology back then is nothing compared to LED's today. Most of the LED's I used back then were low intensity for indicators. Thanks .........
@Cut3Sku11
@Cut3Sku11 Год назад
straight to the point video thanks for sharing.
@Martinko_Pcik
@Martinko_Pcik 6 лет назад
A nice experiment ! I wonder if you can use two same LEDs instead of using a laser for simplicity. Could you even make a solid state relay using this with some sensitive MOSFET ?
@deelan_
@deelan_ 8 лет назад
this didnt work for me. what did i wrong? I conected my Oscilloscope to the LED -to- +to+ and nothing showed up. Also a Question: Can this setup be used to transmit serial data?
@noisytim
@noisytim 9 лет назад
That's so neat ! Thanks for the tip :)
@primalslack
@primalslack 8 лет назад
I wonder what the physical mechanism is by which the LED is coupled to illuminated object. I would expect such coupling and its electric effects to diminish with distance.
@charbon
@charbon 9 лет назад
does the voltage depend on the laser color? I wonder we'd get the same reading if a green laser was used on a red LED. I feel that we'd get a maximum reading for laser-LED systems that have approximately the same wavelength.
@bambumbambu
@bambumbambu 6 лет назад
you are showing us how to measure rpm with a 11000euro oscilloscope? that's just mean!
@sidamarali3030
@sidamarali3030 4 года назад
Interesting inddeed. Bu what type of lazer is used in this experiment, if I may ask?
@987inuyasha
@987inuyasha 9 лет назад
what about the distance between each blade?
@homemadelaboratory3140
@homemadelaboratory3140 8 лет назад
Well, you know, you can always use a solar panel
@satrah101
@satrah101 7 лет назад
will the surface area of the panel be to big, i like the idea will have to try this.
@cosmiceon
@cosmiceon 9 лет назад
Could you please make a video showing how to make an FM or AM radio? I know videos like this already exist but I would like to see your take on it.
@hadireg
@hadireg 8 лет назад
Brilliant! Thank you!
@omfgbunder2008
@omfgbunder2008 8 лет назад
does it have to be a laser pointer? (ie: would it also work with an IR transmitter?)
@costabahu5518
@costabahu5518 8 лет назад
do we need to connect the led with battery? any LED work? can I us the battery lezar?
@zack141141141
@zack141141141 9 лет назад
you would get much better results using a britght white led a sensor
@nRADRUS
@nRADRUS 9 лет назад
better and cheaper )
@MyBigThing2010
@MyBigThing2010 7 лет назад
Would love to find an Arduino version of this...cuz I just can't find a free o-scope laying around n I'm not buying one for the level of tinkering I do
@spirit-teacher
@spirit-teacher 2 года назад
Awesome!
@elecnut8211
@elecnut8211 7 лет назад
You are a wealth of knowledge. Love your videos !! Please keep doing this for another 200 years.
@allinoneentertainmentmasti3296
@allinoneentertainmentmasti3296 4 года назад
angreji
@zzzlt
@zzzlt 9 лет назад
ooh i need siliscope, how about multimetter with out hertz reading
@fersunk
@fersunk 9 лет назад
i think that is the same, it only need the oscilloscope for the frecuency measure
@WILLYDOGUSA
@WILLYDOGUSA 8 лет назад
How difficult would it be to build a small circuit to be able to use it without an oscilloscope?
@hussain55019
@hussain55019 4 года назад
Thanks a lot i am engineer but i had no hell idea before that led can be used in that way..
@cybercapri
@cybercapri 9 лет назад
Excellent video, thanks for sharing....
@eliobou
@eliobou 9 лет назад
I hooked up an led straight on my oscilloscope and got a laser point at it but the voltage only change in a range of 5mV. What is my mistake ?
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 9 лет назад
eliobou Was it a red LED? Was the probe X10?
@eliobou
@eliobou 9 лет назад
Afrotechmods I tried a classic red LED and a superbright red LED and the probe is X10
@khaled6100
@khaled6100 9 лет назад
I think it could be used for alarm system
@jakjdsk7755
@jakjdsk7755 6 лет назад
could you have two led linked shine lazer at one and the other lights up?
@TheRogerx3
@TheRogerx3 9 лет назад
I really like this video. for a diy cnc encoder sensor perhaps.
@JonAustinMedia
@JonAustinMedia 9 лет назад
14 Amish people mysteriously found RU-vid
@stevenA44
@stevenA44 2 года назад
So would this work on a bicycle wheel with the spokes?
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 2 года назад
With thick enough spokes I think it might yes
@simasjunevicius8538
@simasjunevicius8538 8 лет назад
can i use a simple multimeter instead of using a oscilloscope?
@ashwinshetty1961
@ashwinshetty1961 5 лет назад
But i guess having an oscilloscope to read rpm beats the purpose of cost and portability.are there any alternatives for an oscilloscope
@4_doors_more_whores
@4_doors_more_whores 5 лет назад
Laser tachometer...
@4_doors_more_whores
@4_doors_more_whores 5 лет назад
It can be a good alternative, cheap and portable
@kjsippel
@kjsippel 9 лет назад
I can't wait to try this! Awesome vid!
@PatrickHennessey1764
@PatrickHennessey1764 6 лет назад
I tried this with a green laser and a blue LED, and I saw no current with my multimeter. Do I need an led and laser of the same color?
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 6 лет назад
Yes! They have to be the same color.
@PatrickHennessey1764
@PatrickHennessey1764 6 лет назад
Ok thanks, ill pick up a green one tommorrow, but I also had a yellow led on hand and since its lighter color I gave it a try. I works, but almost impossible to read on the osilloscope. Thanks for replying!
@Zetex2000
@Zetex2000 9 лет назад
+Austin Hively its called the photo electric effect
@frankbones6230
@frankbones6230 2 года назад
am gonna trai it
@baywatch94
@baywatch94 9 лет назад
As always an other great video. Tnx for sharing
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