dcPrevent sets same delay to prevent doubleclick, it can flag serversides Also, you can set debounce time in xmousebutton instead of just buying model O if u didnt watch the vid
@@IAmDarthrai yeah I just figured 30 i still get 20 sometimes 21cps, but at 31, its stuck at 14. How many fast double clicks do u get on that site, with 30?
Doubleclicking doesnt mean you have a "broken mouse" there are a couple software out there that can make your mouse double-click (not breaking your mouse) its called denounce time and its a normal mouse function and it actually takes skill to butterfly that high of cps, its not easy making your mouse double-click so much
is there anyway i can contact any of the lunar staff (preferably you since you seem really chill) about why im banned? (my appeal was declined and im not going to spend 20$ on a false ban, although its one of my favorites servers to play on).
@@nightlockerz1165 then change to a week or two, do you actually think its reasonable to wait whole 3 months just to get denied again? Dont want to be rude but It feels like they force us to pay money for unbans because waiting 3 months is ridiculous.
I feel like everyone who got banned for butterfly prior to this video should get unbanned and given another shot with this knowledge and bans should be simple permas after that.
@fourtey It was poorly written. I'll be clear I'm personally against butterflyclicking. I guess I just meant give people a second chance and an opportunity to use some of the software that Idiol talks about in this video to limit their double-clicks. I see your point and looking back on it, I agree. Also, feel free to call me stupid. I haven't slept for 24 hours. lol
@fourtey Agreed. The 20cps is kinda crap... Maybe I don't like it because I normal click like 10cps... And yeah, you're definitely right: If the AC thinks you're cheating, that's your problem for not looking at the massive red warning sign in chat. I think a lot of people were just pissed that they got banned for butterflying when others were seemingly fine, with no real explanation of why. Now that this video has been released, it's clear why. Considering that additional, and I might argue necessary, information on the situation has been provided, perhaps all those banned and left with questions should be given unbans. That was the reasoning for my initial statement. Reasoning that I don't really agree with after 2 hours of sitting on it.... Either way, it sounds like we're in agreement on the whole situation now. Have a good one!
wait im kinda confused im using a g502 and i butterfly 8-12 cps and i got banned so how does that work? and for the code bin thing on 0.05 i click 84 and got 2 double click
@@z3xqq that's not why its bannable. A high amount of double clicks can't be distinguished from an autoclicker by anticheat flags so it becomes impractical to deal with the amount of people that get flagged who are actually legit. This puts butterfly clicking in a strange scenario where it become more of a "use at your own risk" clicking method since it's seen as completely legit but will get treated the same as a cheat if you are banned for it.
@@laszlobarnabas2244 it's actually p easy, u just double click with one finger and u can get like 8 - 11 cps if your mouse double clicks by legit just flapping your finger slow asf
@@joy1ar single click and double click butterfly are different. You don’t just double the cps. It requires different types of force to double click butterfly
@@fivestarswipe Facts, my friend cheats on me so hard, he autoclicks 20cps with a randomizer and doesn’t get bad, as soon as i clicked 17 cps got anticheat banned and couldn’t get unbanned
Never knew how much theory and shit goes in to detecting butterflying. My friends always get banned but i don't, sent them this vid so they don't hate me no more lmfaoooo
its not that servers try to detect butterfly clickers its that butterfly clickers (server side) can sometimes have the same markers that good autoclickers have so servers with sensitive AC checks might flag butterfly clickers
Or you could just be honest? Adviser obviously has an anticheat bypass hes legit an admin on lunar and has a cosmetic cape. He got banned on MMC for butterflying (I know they are obviously different anticheats but my point still stands)
why most servers ban players with over 20 cps ? autoclicking is still existing with lower values like 12-15 cps, but also clicking with too many cps is just impossible for a correct pvp, so why ??? and also if people want to dragclick and get 50 cps (and be unable to move ahah), that is their choice no? cheaters will always exist even if cps are limited to 4, so why why why ?
is there anywhere i can send proof of me clicking 20 cps to get unbanned or no im guessing there is not but still i was false banned on lunar so im just asking
i just saw this man, i had clicked with 2 mice like 3 months ago and mods are still making me buy an unban.. can u make it not permanent atleast, 3 more months or anything i dont have the money to buy an unban. i admitted in my appeal as well. my ign is the same as my youtube
i butterfly 15 on 16ms debounce time and get banned but my friend who can click 20cps while triple clicking and double clicking (without macros etc) doesn’t get banned
i mean if you look at Motion from when he got banned you can see him butter fly clicking 20 cps and when he got banned he showed in his video with his model o at 16ms and him still clicking 20
@@Idiol I meant that to be for when you mentioned the double clicking and how someone could have a mouse that doesn’t double click but can still butterfly 20 bc at 16ms denounce the mouse doesn’t double click as easy as 4ms and 10ms
I got false banned on lunar for no reason when i was lagged out and on mineman i joined an na uhc meetup and took a few fights then I was banned on my life i wasnt cheating how do i keep getting false banned ? (Im eu)
Wow, thank you for making a tutorial on how to not get banned for butterfly clicking 5 months after I'm perm banned on Lunar for it. Also, since butterfly clicking is technically considered a cheat, can't you admit to "cheating" and get a 90 day ban instead of a permanent ban since you admitted? You gave temporary bans to auto clickers in the past who admitted.
i can do max 10-11 cps with butterfly idk how people can do 20 cps, and i’m using logitech g pro just like adviser if i’m not wrong. I wish I could do 20 but i can’t :(
i was in discord with my friends screensharing and I whipped out 2 different mice and I clicked 30 cps then got aced in the lobby I learned my mistakes lmao
the thing is if you get *some* double clicks its fine im just trying to say in this that if a large percentage +70% of ur cps comes from double clicks you can end up getting banned hence every server warning that butterflying *may* result in a ban
@@unspecifiedunit9126 yeah true imma either try learning jitter or ive turned my debounce to 16 and i have the program that idiol recommended so i click like 11 now and dont get nearlty as much double clicks - i am fine on mmc
