I needed this, recently got back into fireworks after a 20yr hiatus. Spent 2k this 4th on them..eye opener seeing this lol. Def going that route nxt yr. Appreciated!!
We get to the highest discount level in a big group buy every year. Some times guys will split cases, but mostly we are happy to buy full cases. It’s very good pricing.
Going to have to try this finally Phantom just cost to much need to get some different products as well I like to keep stocked up thanks for the video I subscribed
Always support your true pyro enthusiasts local stands/tents. I buy a lot of wholesale but I always spend around 1k at my local place. Having a great friendship can be very beneficial. Some give free fireworks, good discounts, and even bring recommended brands not common to your area. Whats also super cool is you can sometimes find pyro treasures! Yes, pyro treasure! Some places will have old pyro collectors would love to have. I have found bricks, spinners, even old fountains at my local stands and 1 warehouse. Wholesale is great for big buyers but as I said leave a little for your special places.
I totally agree! I still buy fireworks all the time from various shops lol. Granted, half the time when I do people tell me I should buy wholesale or that the place is overpriced. Can't win them all I suppose. Awesome on your pyro treasures! Those are always the best experiences
@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Thanks. I think my best finds so far, Thunder Bomb bricks Tiger brand, Double Space Jets horse, candles horse, Red Devil bricks from the mid 90s. I have been very lucky. I should do an update on my collection it's massive!
Another very informative video and yes I ordered 2 pallets wholesale this year but not from S76. I ordered 1 from red apple during their early Black Friday which is the best sale of the year. The second from superior in February when they had there best prices of the year. As I expand my fireworks show and knowledge I will branch out to other companies like S76. Thanks for the very informative video.
That is awesome to hear! You make some great points that some of the best deals are in the colder months before the thick of the summer firework season. Superior makes some great stuff. I have a few of their Showline items in my show this year too. I haven't purchased from Red Apple before.
@@aronvic2627it cost an average of 10k to rent a spot for the week, usually another 3-5k in other cost. Then 20k-25k in fireworks. Then you gotta hope you sell enough
7k? hell yea lol in 2020 with all those stimulus payments and enhanced unemployment i blew almost 20k on cases lol i still have 3 shelves full of stuff this year ive only spent a whole 20 dollars just to get some fuse. cant wait till i get to blow money on cases again lol
Comes down to planning and preparation is one person just blowing off fireworks to have fun or trying to create a show. Excitement just to blow things off is great, with that the thought process is not clear for creating a show. Buying a few days before and event just creates blowing off fireworks. I believe when buying whole sale the thoughts of creating a show starts to happen and that is the exciting part. To actually visualize and prepare a show is most of the fun. We are close to that time, great video Joel. 2 Fortune Soldiers, 2 Mission to Mars and 2 M100 tannerite to open. Hit em hard.
You guys are so lucky. In Hawaii (where it's illegal) the prices are 10x the price. I paid 1300 for 1 finale cake and 1000 for another finale cake on top of other fireworks.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnicsJoel what type of license do you need to purchase pro line? I know there are different types. Can you just get the license to purchase them without having to be a jobber on X amount of professional shows? Thank you
@@thunderbomb515 Absolutely! Most companies want you to prove you are competent enough to purchase. This can include a training certificate from a pro company, PGI certificate (probably the most common), and sometimes depending on your experience. For example, are you in any pyro clubs?
wait you located around columbia mo thats awesome,we do a nice big show every year this way that you explain in this vid. my bud just goes to his guy who is a local spirit 76 dealer.
It is easy when you can do that in a state where you live at. But those who live in the states, they don't ship to those states because of the law. It's not fair😂
I know this is an old video but there's some thing I would like to add: I will typically buy two years of firework shows instead of one per year just so I can easily meet quantity discounts. I also buy my fireworks at multiple times a year through multiple retailers. I've found The best time to buy fireworks is about a month after the 4th of july, and a month after New years. Many retailers like WFboom, Red Apple, and American wholesale Fireworks will "fire sale" a bunch of their cases for up to 40% off, sometimes even ON TOP of the wholesale discount. For example, I'm picking up some "Don't mess with me" canister shell kits from WFboom for $148 a case for a 4/24. That works out to be $1.54 a shell. I can't find pricing like that anywhere. I also picked up a case of 6/36 "Corona" rockets from Red apple in 2022 for $150 in February. That's 69 cents a rocket and I'm still using up that case. This is a great guide for people but if you have somewhere you can store your fireworks you can save even more.
The proline stuff is fantastic! You may also find this video helpful as you can see exactly what they are asking for. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8D7BKxtNNlg.html
Go to discount fireworks in Ripon Wisconsin, don’t need nothing and he has wholesale prices on Everuthing when buying individually, a lot of 500 gram cakes for 20-25 bucks, most of his 200 gram cakes are 7-10 bucks at most, 350 gram ones are 14-17
I signed up but their wholesale was still higher than my Local spot. Maybe at the gold level. But from what i saw Rocket beat them out. Nice to see the levels.
Do yourselves a favor and get the type 54 license from the ATF, much better pricing and quality out there. For example: 72 3" professional display mortars are about 170. 500 2/1 display racks are 350. 5" shells for less than $60 in some cases.
Yeah that's a great route for many. I'm still fine staying in the 1.4 world. I help with enough professional shows that I don't feel the need to bring them into my own show.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics The mix of consumer/prosumer/pro is best. I agree with you that labeled; 1.3 proline being mostly consumed by the general public for most events are fantastic. It's the use of such-with good firing systems and care, that makes a show great. I only advocate the certification for those wanting the edge on quality and quantity with good safety practice and awareness. Also the ability to engage with the local law enforcement and fire department/Ems for larger displays. I sent a few larger shells and racks off this past New Year's Eve with epic crowd response. Juneteenth and the Fourth of July this year are going to be something else for my hood as a neighborhood as a result.
I just wanna get these crazy cool salutes that I be seeing all over YT lol, guess I gotta find someone who is willing to let me see the secret "backroom" and let me buy from them. Dont know anyone else that is big into fireworks so ima have to go to all these fireworks stores and chat up a bunch of people.
Firework clubs are a great way to get higher discount tiers and a lot of times, free delivery to events! I normally take advantage of that during Sky Wars for example.
I run a tent every year for Jakes fireworks which is Wholesale Fireworks. Our prices are as competitive as these guys and we have a VIP program and I give out hundreds of free fireworks. I can beat these guys all day long. Yes, this video is true when compared to most firework shops but not the one I run every year.
A shop at Jake's fireworks here in Oklahoma every year from mine they have six shot artillery shell single tube 8.99$ then they got the half off cakes and stuff I got some really awesome 9 shot cakes for 3.50$ Called with a bang or something like that
Still not great pricing. Every state has shipping laws. Unless you're paying 10k, you can get a 76 price from a local owner. In TX, I sell wholesale and zero shipping. Those prices your showing are my store prices. BTW, going to the distribution center, enjoy them checking for hazmat. Other benefits I offer is selling cases with 12 , 16, or 18 different products. Same with 500gram cakes.
Please drop your store link so we can check it out! All shipments are shipped hazmat, so I am unsure what you mean there. Assorted cases are a great way to go and is also why I mentioned that in this video.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics I'm in logistics and deal with winda, WC, Herbie's...... Sometimes like in TX for example, when you pick up at the hub and drive out with over a thousand pounds of powder weight with out insurance and hazmat, bam, easy confiscation and fine. I'll ship all the samples thrown at me and mix the cases up. If a case is 12/1 then I'll find 12 different products and put cases together. My wife does a make a wish fundraiser and has a customer base and has me put shows together with customers who are serious about their fireworks Example of an order Hi, Hope you everyone is doing well. Below is my order for 4th of July 2023. I still have some left over from New Years and I'm not doing a mirrored show, so only one set of boards for the 4th. 2 x 2" cakes 6 x powerful 500 cakes 6 x medium 500 cakes 6 x 350 gram cakes 6 x 200 gram cakes 2 x z-cakes Thanks ****" He left out 3" and 60 gram shells. Example of out my wife's fundraiser Case of excals- 350$ 4/1 Case of wind it up- 205$ 4/1 Case of wheeling and dealing 185$ 2/1 Case of stars and stripes 140$ 18/1 All four categories above can be mixed up like land of the free. Point is, know the owner of a stand, tent, small warehouse and they can do this and your not shipping anything and you know there products. I move all brands from megabanger to WC. Places like Red apple are using a rewrap. Big thunder double artilleries, peel off foil and its great grizzly. I believe in buy local but I've seen folks really mark up the prices but I've showed the smaller guys how to do folks right instead of pen to paper. I love 76 warehouse, great story about the man who set it up. Also, the case cardboard tells me the quality of what's in their containers.
Great video! I also really liked your last wholes video from a couple years ago. What made you switch from American Wholesale? I see 76 has much cheaper prices but the shipping is about double and they apply tax. So its basically a wash right?
I have purchased from So76 every year for the last six years. I really like their proline and how they have integrated everything together. They also are one of the leaders in new effects and continuing development. They also support many pyro events throughout the year, so I am fine paying a bit more on some things knowing all of that. I have also purchased from American and will continue to buy from both going forward!
Say i do a 2k buy tier and i want it shiped to reno NV about how much would shiping cost be i seen the priceing with out shipping looks good just curious how much shipping cost on a pallet or half pallet ?
Got a few questions Joel. First is what are your thoughts on red apple fireworks wholesale of their own brand? Two what is the best firing system? Lastly how do you get a 1.4 pro license?
I'm not planning a stash video, only because I'll be showing off items going up in the show throughout the Setup series. I have way too many fireworks to get out of storage for the stash video, so I am preferring to only show what I'll be using when I'll be working on it. That might change next year! I do not have a strong opinion one way or the other on Red Apple. If the pricing is good, I'd say go for it. What are you looking to do with the firing system? There are a lot of great systems out there for various reasons. If you're going more the budget route to get your feet wet, look at FireFly or Ignite. If you want the investment system for long term growth, I'd look at FireTek or Cobra. I'm currently trying to switch all of my Cobra to FireTek. To buy 1.4 pro, you have to show some level of competency. This can be a training certificate from a pro company, state shooters license, ATF type 54, or something like the PGI Shooter's Course certificate (probably the most common). If you are in any pyro clubs, they may also accept that.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics thanks for all the info! My brother in law and I are looking into really deep diving and trying to start a side business doing firework shows. I will definitely look into Firetek! We’ve been spending 1000s on retail and would love to start buying pro wholesale as well as consumer wholesale. I went down a rabbit hole last night and was watching red apple for hours so I wanted to get your thoughts because you’re the best of the best in my opinion when it comes to fireworks. Thanks for all you do man!
Excellent video, but I’m not sure what you mean by a distribution center? For instance, I’m in NC, where these are illegal, but a short trip to SC, where they are legal. Thanks! ( I miss Indiana and Nevada)
A freight distribution center, such as FedEx. Basically ship it to the next state over and go pick it up at the distribution center. Some states have weird shipping laws even though fireworks are legal, so this is quite a common practice.
Thanks for the info. Great content. I want to ask you though, is this a company that I would deal with if say, I wanted to start a seasonal store or stand? I want to buy to sell.
Absolutely! They do drop shipping for large orders as well. I'd give them a call to get some more information, but I know they have a 10k pricing discount and a container deal as well. A whole container is pretty normal for a seasonal tent.
Where do you store your cases of extra fireworks through out the year. I live in Colorado and we get all the weather here. So was curious to know if them being stored in a garage that gets super cold in the winter and super hot in the summer would have a negative effect on the fireworks? I really enjoyed the informational video. Sadly didn’t know about wholesale until after my purchase for this year.
Glad you enjoyed! As long as you keep the fireworks dry, they will be fine in the cold/hot temperature swings. Most firework warehouses are not temp controlled and they sit in extreme heat in the shipping containers coming across the ocean. Ideally, store them in an out building if you can.
Good Information...In my neck of the woods, (Pennsylvania, Ohio, West VA) you get the best wholesale pricing if you buy in the off-season. Usually January-April, depending. I personally would not buy wholesale in May or June.
Traditionally, you're totally correct. 2022 and 2023, people have been running deals all year round where "early bird" discounts are really not much different than later deals. WFBoom is one that does some killer deals in Jan/Feb, but So76 has discounted shipping and additional free cases through June. AWF has been running promos non stop since last July too lol
To my understanding, yes they can ship to NC and so can other wholesalers. Most wholesalers will tell you that you are the one responsible to make sure you're legally able to receive the fireworks. Meaning, they do not care once they leave their facility so you wouldn't need to show proof of permits to them.
@@kendynschaefer673 You're all good! Another idea is look at joining a pyro club. Get in on their group buys and pickup at events. Carolina Pyros come to mind as they are in NC
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnicsahahah thank Joel I was watching the the video while commenting I don’t like to skip through your videos, but now just noticed you had the video label in increments 😅 my bad. But still awesome video getting the word out through that whole sells the way to go when buying 1000 plus worth of fireworks. It’s really more bang for your buck
Great question! This was super easy to do. You can specify to have it shipped to a terminal's address. In this case, I picked up a terminal only to ensure the delivery day. They (the shipping company) called me and said they couldn't get it to me on the day I wanted. I told them I would pick up from their terminal instead. Show up, go to office, "I'm here for a pick up", sign the release paper and load up. Even shipments that have came all the way to my location will call you to make sure someone is there for the delivery window and they always ask me if I would prefer to pickup at the terminal (to save them the trip lol).
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics so you just order and pick the nearest terminal or do you tell the wholesaler you want to pick terminal pickup and they decide which? when you go to pickup and say I'm here for pickup do you get the skid or can you destack the skid and put in van/car and not have to bring a pickup truck to put whole skid in bed? is there a extra fee for using their location because of hazmat or is that accounted for in the shipping fee? Thanks
@@AdaKurFireworks I'd ask the seller what they advise. I've seen it laid out differently on different websites. No additional fee for terminal pickup. You can break pallets down, or take the whole thing. I've done terminal pickup three times with three different shipping companies/wholesalers and each time I broke the skid down and left it there.
That shipping price is a lot lower than I expected. Next year I will be going wholesale. One question. If it were delivered to my door. Do you know how much more that would cost?
You can punch all those details in, and it will give you a real estimate. If it adds a ton of cost, I recommend shipping to a distribution center, or if you know someone with a business address, use that instead.
I believe Maryland is a federal law issue. Meaning you'd have to ship to a neighboring state. If you had a permit or license, you could probably get around that. I'd give Spirit a call and ask them directly too.
I agree that Wholesale is the way to purchase fireworks, I know trying to obtain the ATF type 54 License which allows one to fire Professional shows, can be difficult to acquire.. How does one apply for the certificate to purchase the special proline products. which I would hope is not in the category as the type 54.. Thank you for the vids..
You're welcome! If you are going to get your ATF type 54, it would qualify for proline. You do not need your ATF type 54 to shoot pro shows though. That license only allows/regulates purchasing and storage of 1.3. Each state has their own professional shooter requirements and if you had a pro license for a state, that would also qualify for pro line. The most common is something like the PGI Shooter's Course.
Wholesalers will ship to Illinois, but it is best to check your state and local laws to see if you need an additional permit etc. The good news, you have a lot of options in neighboring states if you're up for a drive! Or ship to a neighboring state depot for pickup.
As long as they maintain their quality and extra circulars (innovating effects, sponsoring all the pyro events, etc.), I am fine paying a bit more for their product.
@@DYTnetwork For sure! They do a lot with the Missouri firework clubs too and will regularly offer gold pricing at no minimum for on-site pickup to events.
I convince people like this, "Take how much you spend on fireworks every year. Multiply by 4. If it's more than $1000, you should buy wholesale. You'll end up with 4 years worth of works for the same cost, but likely have way more and better products."
I dont get the spacing logic. All cakes are like that here in the netherlands. If a cake malfunctions it malfunctions, those couple of inches of spacing wont make a difference id imagine And even funnier is over here if a seller would want to sell something like that pallet of yours then they need to store it in a bunker Yes a bunker
