Thank you so much , you blew my mind about same size reel at different size series. You just save me from making a mistake I'm in the market for new rod and reel and I was going to purchase online. After watching this video I'm definitely going to the big box store to see and feel.
I just happened upon this video by chance and to be honest, I don’t watch random videos because of all the falsehood and click bait attacks. But I did start it while I was cleaning a bit here and I immediately knew that I would enjoy this guy’s videos. He’s a straight talker and brings up some good information. I just SUBSCRIBED.
I just bought a 6000 series megaton. Starting to think I went too big. Plan on using it for some salmon fishing but not sure for what else? Maybe pier casting Cleo’s for Browns? Either way, my new pole will be big lol
Best you tube tips on reels I've watched. Thanks Captain. I'm running a Shimano Siena 4000 with 20 pound braid and a abu garcia rayrex rod which is lightweight but an take up to 20 pound line. Reel is quite small for 4000 and I feel like I've found a good set up for smaller and bigger fish in Sydney harbour for fishing off the wharfs.
That’s the way it goes. People often order something way more than they need. If I had to go with only one rig, the 2000 to 3000 would be my choice for streams and lakes....it can even handle shore fishing in saltwater.
I had 80's shimano with quick fire was too small 1000 had issues making good cast with tight little spool. Was super fast retrieve often too quick spinners. Must been something fancy
Thanks. While larger reels may cost a bit more within the same model, price usually coincides with quality. Price is an important factor to consider when choosing a reel but it does not factor into the decision on what size to get very much.
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Thanks for this information Captain. But, may I ask where you shot this video in Florida. Is that snow cover? I know it ain’t Matlacha. I have subscribed.
Thanks for the info. What you did really well is get a good mic to do this video. Can't tell you how well the audio sounded given you our outside. Many people don't pay attention to this detail. good job!
Thanks Capt. I missed it early on, what is the brand of the 2500 you like? Does it have the "screw into the body handle system. I'm a shamino guy at heart, but their reels have gotten so expensive its thought for a recreational fisherman to justify them. I'm planning to visit my son in Deland this spring so I'll be looking to contact you about a trip. Is spring a good snook time? Stay safe
I have a selection of Daiwa Ballistics and Procyons. the ballistic has the thru handle, I don't know if the new Procyon does. For a lower price, I have heard great things about the Daiwa BG. You can see lots of reviews. For even less, Cadence makes all their reels with this type of handle, I believe. Spring, depending on what time, is probably a bit early for good snook. Mostly big trout, reds, and drum.
thanks chris for that nice video , i like to ask about the suitable size of reel to catch offshore and what you think about sargossa vs slammer thnx again
I have not used the slammer but I have never heard anything bad about them. If i go offshore, I take my 4500 Daiwa Saltist which is as big as a Stradic 6000. This is fine for big tarpon, sharks to 100 or so, kingfish, etc. If i were going for larger fish than that, there are 8 and 10k sizes that hold a ton of line.
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@@CaptChrisMyers Much appreciated Sir. I'm a freshwater angler but over the last few years have fished more and more salt as I spend more time in south FL (I'm considering a full time move there, BTW) and your video is 100% spot on. Your video describes my experience 100%. I began using 4000 reels with M and MH 7' rods. Now I've downsized to 2000 and 2500 reels with 7'6" ML or M rods and WOW what a difference. I hope a lot of folks see and learn from your insight here as it it priceless.
First time watching your videos. Loved the explanation of choosing. Simple practical explanation. I do have a question though. If you had a rod that’s rated 10-15 kilo does that get factored into the equation? Or does the the reel come first? Hmm chicken or egg question maybe?
I would not be too concerned about the rod's rating. The size of the fish and line you are using would be more important to me. If you are targeting fish that size i would probably go with a 4000 size reel or maybe even a 5000 if they are 15k and up.
I was gifted a shimano stradic FL 4500. I fish all bait casting combos and don’t Know much about spinning reels. What would be the right power/action rod and braided line size would you pair that reel with? I fish freshwater for bass and get into striped bass twice a year when they make there migratory run.
The rod power and line size should directly relate to the weight of the fish/bait/and structure. For average fish under 10lbs in open water a medium light with 10lb would be my choice. larger fish or heavier cover could demand 15 or 20lb braid. A 4500 hold a lot of line and you may want to fill the spool part way with mono instead of 350yds of 10lb.
Hard for me to recommend a rod as people like all kinds of actions and various rod actions work better in differing situations. The Falcon Coastal medium Gulf spin is one I like for under $100. I use the 7'6" medium action. A Daiwa BG reel is a tough one for around $100. The Okuma Azores Blue is good. Cadence Stout has a lot of drag for less than $75.
They do everything a baitcaster can do and more with less hassle. Cast light lures, vast heavy lures, use light or heavy line, crank in big fish or small out of cover or open water all with a cool drag sound. What are you usually fishing with? Bait, lures? How heavy?
My Penn reel of well over a decade I think, has finally caught its last fish. I’m researching how to pick the right size reel and your video is just what I needed. Thanks so much for the hard work and sharing your knowledge with us. Very helpful 😃
What lb would you recommend on a 3000 for monofilament? I fish in bass tournaments, I currently have 10lb test but was looking to go a bit higher to be able to bring the fish in fast
Thank you for the video. I'm seeing that I need less reel than I thought. I'm looking to do mostly shore fishing in MD and NJ from seawalls, jetties, around bridges, etc. targeting things like fluke, bluefish, stripers, black sea bass, weakfish, black drum. I might encounter a king mackerel, black drum, or striper that could be over 50lbs, but most other fish will be below 20lbs. So I'm not sure if I should go with a 3000 or 4000 series reel. And then I suppose a 7ft rod with a medium heavy action would be sufficient? I currently have a Penn Battle II 2000 series on a 6'6" medium fast action rod with 10lb braid that was originally intended for freshwater fishing. Could that be useful in a saltwater application, or is it just too light? Thanks!
For me, I would get a setup that is appropriate for the fish I catch the majority of the time, not the occasional giant I might get. A medium heavy rod is pretty stiff for 5-10lb fish. I can certainly catch them but it does not offer as much fun. I prefer medium or medium light with a smaller and lighter reel unless I have a need for a huge line capacity. I use 1000 size reels on ultralight rods routinely on my saltwater charters and clients have landed fish over 30 pounds on them. Of course, we are able to chase these large fish with a boat so i probably would not recommend trying for huge fish on ultralight gear from shore but it shoes that the tackle can handle them. Many people I see are using rods and reels far to large for the fish they are targeting.
Okay, so if most of the time I'm targeting fluke and other smaller fish sub 20lbs, should I be able to get away with the 2000 series I have on the 6.6ft medium rod I already have?have? Should I respool it with heavier lb braid or will I not have enough line? What is the minimum number of yards required for shore/pier/jetty type fishing? Thanks again for your help!
Each reel can hold a different amount of line so i do not know how much braid yours will hold. I would want the spool to be full . A 2000 should be able to hold around 150 yds of 10lb and 140 yds of 15lb. Use more than 15lb braid and your casting distance will suffer. There is even a noticeable difference from 10 to 15. Fish under 20lb should easily be able to be stopped within that distance. 150yds is a long distance and means it is a huge fish or the drag is way too loose.
what would you recommend for northern pike fishing? my daiwa regal 4000 wasn't cut out for it and the gears are shot in it now... im using a 7 foot medium-heavy rod
A 4000 size reel should be able to handle any pike. I was catching 50lb tarpon on a 4000 last week. Of course a less expensive reel has gears made from less durable metal but I routinely use a 1000 size $59 reel to catch saltwater fish and we have landed fish over 35lbs on them this year. Buying a $100+ reel should last you many years.
@@CaptChrisMyers i dont want anything bigger than a 4000 for sure (prob smaller) i just want strong internals. Might go with shimano, my dad still has his old gx130 from the 80s and its built like a tank and works flawlessly. I took both the gx and regal apart and its not the same quality of parts at all lol.
Depends on what size fish you are targeting the most. If I am occasionally catching 20+lb fish from a boat with a 2500, no problem. if consistently, then I want larger gears to handle the stress. For average fish 10lbs and under a 2500 works fine for me and it is lighter with less line needed to fill it. A 4000 will work for those fish but it has lots of line that will never see light and it is overkill. 30yrs ago, i thought I needed 4000s. now i fish with 1000,2000, and 2500 the most.
Ultra light Nasci 1000 great perch crappie reel 6 lb test tops 30 is plenty for anything 40 or 3500 Penn are larger stippers and great off shore pic up to 20 lb braid the 5-6 6500 are catfish salmon and light offshore many tuna and dorado in 6-7 k reels lots of line capacity for running fish There’s a difference in a 30 3500 I like the 2500-3500 for bass and inshore fishing covers your 30” plus reds and large spec trout for the bass man. No larger than 4 k especially if casting a lot keep the weight down
Thank you for the tips 😊 Does length of rod come into the equation? Say a 6foot, to 10 foot.. can you use same 2500-3000 reel? For the handles that screw in, they are left OR right reels.. ones that go all the way through, they are left and right yeah? So info should be available online before purchase. Am i right?
The only time it would matter is some rods do not have reel seats large enough. The reel seat size is not standard among manufacturers. I have had some 5000 reels that would not fit on a rod when other would. The length should not factor into your decision.
I'm so confused lol used to be years ago 3000 was big. Ordered Shimano sienna in 3000 seems small now. I may have dump my spirex shimanos in 4000 they heavy over 400. So got 2 2.5,3000. New sienna and fx light now. Kind liking them
There really is no line rating for reels. They will show you how much of various lb test lines the spool can hold but that's it. My reel repair shop says many of the issues they repair come from people putting braid that will never break on reels that are too small and ruining the gears that were never meant to handle line that heavy.
@@CaptChrisMyers i have some 40lb braided line and ive been trying to find a reel for that line. However it's been difficult since they rarely have any line rating info at all. Like you said, usually it's just the length of line you can put on. So how do i look at a reel and know if it's gonna handle that 40lb braided line?
If you look at the reel specs, it should tell you how much line of various sizes the manufacturer thinks it will hold. Some still only put mono sizes on, some put braid on mono. Look here, for example, there is a whole chart and it shows the 4000 will hold 200yds of 40 braid. daiwa.us/products/bg-sw-spinning If they do not show braid sizes, be sure to see the mono equivalent size of the braid you are using.
I would still need more details to give you an opinion. Unless you are targeting fish over 30lbs consistently, you do not need a 4000 or 6000 reel in most cases. If you are targeting fish from shore only and need extra line capacity, maybe a 4000. I use a 6000 size for offshore or large tarpon.
Is a Penn fierce 3 4000 reel good for a beginner that wants to jump between fresh and saltwater? I don’t plan on catching anything bigger than snapper in saltwater. Should I move up to the 5000?
I’ve just started lure fishing in Norway. (Sea fishing) haven’t a clue what size real to get. I’ve decided to choose a shimano reel. But would like advice on reel size Mostly catching cod, Macrail etc.
That would depend on the average size of the fish you are targeting. If they are 10lbs and under, a 2500 size is all you need. If they are larger fish, a 4000 would be more appropriate.
Few weeks ago I got 2 kastking megatrons for stripers, got the 2000 and the 6000, both fit my ugly stick striper good, one is obviously for bigger fishing conditions the other for smaller... the 2000 made quick work of several stripers so far from barely-keepers to a nice 39” hen. I got the 6000 because it has more drag lbs, and will fish easier the sfbay and the ocean, it also fits good on my 10’ surf rod so I can use it on that too. I’m not a paid spokesperson for them, but I am loving the megatron a lot. Aluminum frame and braid ready spool.
I have at least fifty different reals, poles, for all kinds of fishing! If you are new to fishing get what is cheap and works! You can catch fish with a stick and line anytime, if fish are in the water in front of you!
What is your thought of a 4000 Vanford on a ML bass rod with 15 lb braid and 8 lb flourocarbon leader? It is a light reel... it should cast farther than a 2500 due to line being closer to the spool lip... gears are stronger... drag is better... Is a stronger drag a bad thing if it is set light for 6 lb line? Is the only disadvantage the extra weight? I'd fill the spool with backer, then top it off with 100 yds of 10 or 15 lb braid. So this would reel line in quickly also. Please explain the negative other than weight.
You probably do not need a reel that large for those fish. I routinely use a 2500 size for most of my saltwater inshore fishing. Unless you have a lot of docks or heavy vegetation, 10lb line will be fine as well. I do not think you will get any noticeable casting distance with the reel size, Line size is more important as well as how much line you put on the spool. A larger reel would be heavier and should make it less challenging to reel in the fish. Other than that, they are about the same.
So for slot red drum (I'm going on vacation to Port Aransas and wanna target them) is a 4000 enough? I'm looking at getting either a 4000 or a 6000 reel for that. Any input would be appreciated!
I use 2500 reels for the average redfish. Have caught plenty over 20lbs on 2500 and 3000 reels. I use 4000 reels for 20-50lb tarpon and a 6000 for 100lb fish. Unless you are routinely targeting redfish 20lbs and up, there is no need for reels that large.
I've been fishing since I was as a kid, I'm in my 50s now and I'd say your spot on with the comment on too large gear.it's the number one mistake I made over the years. It's the same with rods. Too heavy and you find how low your casting distance is.
