Formula 4 is Spitfire's proprietary urethane formula, and it's designed to be able to slide well for powerslides and tail slides and such, but also resist getting flat spots easily. The regular formula wheels still slide well, but they get flat spots on them easier. Of course, most skate wheel companies have similar proprietary urethane formulas that are comparable to Spitfire's Formula 4. Cheers! 👍 - Tim
The obvious solution is to have each of the four wheels be a different size and hardness, tighten the trucks to max, and ride exclusively on each wheel in it's optimal condition.
Im going to being riding a 8.0 skateboard but i want the exact size trucks and wheel so i can do railflip/primoflip and freestyle tricks without any wobbles so i can balance perfect. What are the trucks and wheels size to prefer for a 8.0 skateboard?
The wheels are up to you, but the trucks should have an 8.0 inch axles also. Here's a link to trucks that all have an 8.0 axle. Cheers! www.tactics.com/trucks/rs-8.0+axle
@@Venemist at least try to learn the ollie. That makes it a lot easier to get around if you end up just liking to cruise. Have fun with it and you'll see if you wanna keep progressing!
Get a board to do tricks. I bought a cruiser and got repetitive so I got a normal skate board to do tricks like 4 months later. You could upgrade to a cruiser later tho. But it’s personal preference. Just trying to output my mistakes. :)
Just get a trick board bro.. you can still cruise (but not as good as built cruiser board) but at least you can still do both. Good luck learning tricks on a cruiser board lol
I’m 25. I used to skateboard all the time as a young teenager back when fantasy factory and rob and big were huge! Woke up yesterday and said “man I wanna skateboard again!” So here I am! Can’t wait to see the progress! Wish me luck🤙🏻
Same here my dude, (and sorry for the long text in advance)except its been 12 years since I left skating, I just got a new board and new shoes, 32 here and yes its been rough lol but no as much as I thought, I got most of my tricks I uses to do on lock but weirdly I thought I wasnt gonna have any problems with my kickflips but Im just not getting that pop I used to get, and weirdly enough Im landing almost perfect treflips at least 4 out of 5 and if I remember correctly back in the day I wasnt landing them, so yeah beautiful treflips and pop shuvs and even heels that I wasnt very comfortable back then with , but my kickflips! Lol ill get there, but yeah mostly it has been great other that my body hurts like hell lol, ive been only doing it for the past 3 days tho, but oh man its so much fun. Now Im watching a wheels vid but the reason is thay I dont even know how to ask the question or what the cause could be: back in the day I used to run abec 9 sometimes 7, my wheels were soft yeah but like gummy you know? They used to bounce a bit more when tilting your board with the foot on the nose and that, like, there was this sound my board used to make , a more lose sound, i dont know if its because of my wheels or the bearings? I got a full board tho to start, a chocolate one, and it feels right when it comes to the size and length but it feels to, or sounds too stiffy when I let it drop on its wheels, idk if im making any sense but id just like to know.
Nice to hear that others have had this wake-up call too! 30 around the corner and picked up my old board after years of dust. Luckily, I've been using a cruiser when playing pokemon a few years back so maybe that helped. I was extremely stoked as my touch came back quickly and many of the fears I had have easened up. Although I've never been a talented skater, the enjoyment is there 10x as now there is no shame in going to park and just doing my thing in front of others without overthinking "how am I going to look" or "I have to get better first" blah blah... Just hope my bones, joints and muscles can take the beating as I have an arthritis-related disorder. I worry because I already know I want to train my ollie and try some gaps/drops.
Dude. Same. Bought a board and all the accessories. Even got some ishod wair shoes. Best thing I’ve bought in 5 years. I feel like I’m 15 years younger.
This is honestly the best and most comprehensive video guide I have seen on wheels yet. It explains almost all of the nuances that come to picking the right wheels. I'm happy this video exists
I watched the braille video before this one and it was, umm...not good. Thank you Tactics for making an actual useful video with relavent b roll. Thanks.
I've found 52mm 92A in a classic shape to be the perfect wheel for tricks and cruising. Still hard enough for tricks but just soft enough for crusty ground
**screenshots comment** Ngl I kinda wanna just glide up and down the streets on the sidewalk without it feeling like a earthquake. If you have any suggestions please let me know 🙏
@@i_just_did_your_mom_LoL I've just got back into skating but I got some 78a and it feels like I'm riding on a cloud down my bumpy road. I'm still doing some basic tricks too. I got the "coffee cruiser" small wheels... sure they are soft, but this is what I was always dreaming of being able to skate with when I was a kid.
When I feel burned out with skating, I watch this video for the skate clips and the overall vibe, forget all your problems and just enjoy yourself I feel better afterwards 🤙
Growing up I've never been able to afford a real setup. So I would settle for the white plastic wheels. But have always wanted urethane material wheels. So that brown color is something that I craved growing up. Knowing that its real urethane.
I actually use 90a that are 53mm.They are pretty smooth and I can still powerslide. I can also grind and slide on ledges too. They don’t bounce too much so if you have rough streets and have to skate to spots I recommend them.
Considering I started skateboarding at 40 years old this video is very helpful. I started off with an electric longboard that has 97 mm diameter and a 78a durometer. Then I picked up a few push longboards that had 63 mm 78 cruiser wheels on them. Then I decided I wanted a typical Skate Park Board to learn tricks on. The Wheels on my park boars are 53 mm 99 a. Feels like a totally different board than what I'm used to with these softer Wheels but again I've been mostly cruising to learn the nuances of skating The skatepark board with hard wheels and comparing it to a longboard with soft Wheels is like as far as the bicycle world is concerned comparing one of these 29-in wheelie bikes to a 20-in park bike that doesn't have brakes and a free coaster hub
This is such a GREAT video! You anticipated every question I had and even helped me deal with dilemmas resp. not being stuck in the middle of the options, top job!
I have 3 setups: A cruiser, street, and a park board. My street board is 8.125 inch with small wheels. My cruise board is 8.25 with large wheels. My park board is an 8.4 flight deck with medium white wheels
I was thinking of starting skating for basic crusing. Can u please recommend a cost effective set up with a durable board which can take good weight, good wheels which could take rough roads and a good axle?
I’ve got into skating hella blindly. Got a skate as a gift, been learning around in my town and have been wondering why I’m so god damn loud and why it doesn’t go as fast when I’m on old slavic roads (which is always full of debri). Turns out my wheels are 99a. I’ll get myself softer wheels, thanks for clarifying stuff up quickly.
I got a brand new setup today, tensor trucks, and 85a 55m enuff super softies. the ground where I live isnt the best, so having harder wheels isn't very good. I feel like it'll be best for me as I'm still learning tricks and really like cruising around!!!
I have a dedicated cruiser is nice for very short trips and just enjoying a cruise... However if you really need fast transportation get a bike. I put my board locked into the frame of my bike. Fiancee usually has the car. It's faster. I can't see at night and places I skate don't have lighting so getting somewhere faster and being able to spend more time there is way better for me, especially in winter. Usually it gets dark soon after I get off work.
Was unsure what to get till this delightful video popped into my feed - thanks so much for being clear and explaining all these elements consisely and easilly :)
the bones uv protection is the best thing ever, keeps the wheel crispy for much longer time than spitfires for example, spitfire gets soggy with warmth and sunlight
2 things I thought should be mentioned here as far as wheels and setups. The Powell dragon wheels, soft yet slide on rough ground. Also Qwik truk brand interchangeable truck plates allow you to change trucks quickly, you can change between a soft or hard wheel set up using the same deck.
So personally, i started skating not long ago. I would suggest regular hard skate wheels for beginners until you learn the ollie. But if you cant get the hang of it and your roads are too rough to ride regular wheels, get some cruiser wheels. Ive found the comfort of riding on cruiser wheels has gotten me more comfortable with my board and how it moves. My next set of wheels are gonna be regular wheels for tricks, and idk what hardness ot size im gonna use. But its only because of my cruiser wheels that ive gotten comfortable on my board. So i will suggest them to the moon and back. Riding your board is the most important part of skating, and cruiser wheels actually made it where i could skate and not just shuffle down the road a few feet at a time 😂
Powell Peralta Dragon Wheels are the best of both worlds, as far as I can tell. I’m an older skater, and I like the softer landing. Better on my joints. They slide really well, and it’s like rolling on a cloud. I found that I can skate a smaller size, such as a 52mm, bc they roll better. To me, and 52mm Dragon Wheel feel like a 56mm 99a wheel, as far as how the handle terrain. I’m not saying it’s an exact comparison. I’d def recommend them to anyone looking to go softer without sacrificing slides.
"there really aren't any wheels that are the best of both worlds [...]" this didnt age very well :D since we got dragon/X Formula wheels by now. srsly though, if you havent tried them yet, you totally should. they transform your street skating, I have one board for getting around and skating any street spot and crusty skatepark. in smooth parks they also work well, but I do prefer F4's there. still, the dragon/X's are by far the closest we ever got to a true hybrid wheel yet and they are honestly superb.
Insanelty good video, just getting back into skating since i have more time now and wow. Def getting a pair of hard wheels now since i own a soft pair. Making two decks also is a good idea. Gonna do this as well 😂ty for the video!
This is sooooo helpful! I just got into skateboarding and have a cruiser, and I also wanted a deck for tricks. I also needed to know what kind of wheels I need.
I don’t know if anyone cares but here’s my setup: 8.25 creature shaped deck, formula 4 spitfire wheels, bronzon bearings, ACE 44 special design, creature bushings, and some ordinary grip tape
Got back into skating. Got 51mm 99a wheels for the ultimate trick setup. Took one cruise and thought "this shits ass" lmao 🤣 gonna get some bigger softer wheels or another board
My brother would skate longboard wheels on his board I think they were like 90 or 100mm just huge. The cool thing about it is kickflips off objects spin super slow it's pretty cool.
Thank you. I wanna learn skateboarding so I can use it when I wanna go to the mall so I guess I'm just gonna buy a penny board and will probably buy the standard one later this year when I get interested in doing tricks
I used soft wheels and I had to lean back a lot to power slide. They got worn down and I got new hard wheels but when I tried to power slide like I usually do, I slide of my board 😂. I guess I was used to sticky wheels.
So starting out with skating and just learning to ride and basic tricks it's better to go for bigger soft wheels cuz in the beginning you won't do that much tricks and you need to get comfortable with your board
I'm ALL ABOUT the lighter stuff. Geering Indy Hollows with 99a 48mm spitfire tablets is what I rock. If I could go 45mm maybe even 40mm then I certainly will and would.
People give me hate cause street skate with a 82A and 60mm wheel, neither of those specs are typical for street skating. But I do like to cruise, and I also love that even rougher surfaces feel normal to me with those wheels. And overtime after I stopped with hard wheels, I’m pretty used to the soft wheels. I managed to do everything I could before with the hard wheels, except good power slides, which I dont really do anyways. I recommend at least trying it! Don’t get massive longboard like wheels, but just soft wheels that are a bit bigger than normal street wheels
One big thing you didn't cover is slick, indoor wooden skateparks. I live in Germany and it's cold and rainy most of the year, so we are forced to skate indoors a lot. Suggestions on hardness, brands, etc.? Much appreciated!
You'll still want hard wheels for tricks, even on the slippery wood ramps. Something like 99a would be a good choice. If you're skating indoor parks a lot, the brand isn't going to matter as much because you're not very likely to get flat spots skating slippery wood ramps. But the most popular brands of course are Spitfire, Bones, OJ, and Ricta. 👍
