How to choose your front knobby profile 80/100-21 90/90-21 or 90/100-21?︱Cross Training Enduro

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@metlmuncher 4 года назад

I really like the ones that are black. The best ones wear out from use.

@mboyer68 4 года назад

That's my favorite tire too! Everyone else are idiots. But we're not. Do you use golden brownish oil too? I find that the best. Great minds think alike, and so do ours.

@mm7460 3 года назад

Round ones are the best

@davidrockwell9776 3 года назад

Thanks again for the work you put into these videos, so the least I can do is watch the commercials. I encourage everyone reading this to do the same!

@crosstrainingenduro 3 года назад

Thanks David, but RU-vid actually pay very little now... watching the ad probably results in about two cents so not worth the effort unless it's an interesting ad lol.

@user-we7bu3bt3z 3 месяца назад

90/100 for enduro 80/100 for motocross 👍

@jerseyjeeper1575 4 года назад

Just what’s been needed, great summary.

@markostarr4062 4 года назад

you are awesome mate!!!! keep up the great videos... love from Italy

@crosstrainingenduro 4 года назад

grazie marko!

@cedricboivin9422 4 года назад

For those which are scare from the increase diameter of the fatty, you could get the same ride height and similar steering geometrie by lifting your forks 10 to 15mm from your triple clamp

@Chugg.Norris 3 года назад

That's the best intro I've ever heard 😂😂 Reminds me of the forums.

@aSamWisE Год назад

Loving the dub tech👍 🎶

@WildAzzRacing 4 года назад

Just installed a new GT216AA fatty this past week (along with a GT333 110/100 rear). Been using them for years now and are my go to front. Yes, they can grab ruts a bit more but they make up for it everywhere else. Rock gardens are easier, braking traction is improved, and my bike is still very flickable. As for the height difference/geometry change, just slide your forks up 5mm and tweak from there.

@redneckenroutekevan6397 4 года назад

Just threw on a brand new GT 216 fatty with a well worn enduromousse that’s been in use for a year and a half. After the first ride I’ll say that traction in the greasy dirt and slippery roots has been amazing! I’ve definitely got a “chubby” for this set up! (That means thumbs up right?) 😏

@philipmarr7325 4 года назад

That jersey looks DAMN good!

@albertsmith6717 4 года назад

I noticed your recent videos are in a lot more extreme terrain than before and all on the two stroke bike. I also noticed your riding abilities have greatly increased from a year ago. Other than Graham's hard enduro racing and training videos, your videos are the only training/fun riding videos I watch. Keep up the great videos.

@crosstrainingenduro 4 года назад

thanks Albert!

@xterrential 4 года назад

I have the Shinko mx216 90/100. A little hard for cold winter days (3-10 Celcius) but amazing for everything else. It really does help in the large loose rocks. 80/100 = 80mm wide and 100% of width in height 90/90 = 90mm wide and 90% of width in height 90/100 = 90mm wide and 100% of width in height Rear tires work the same for sizing. First number is width and the second number is percentage of width in height/thickness.

@gab223334 4 года назад

I really like the fatty on my DRZ, i can run a lot less pressure and give good rim protection! I will go back to a smaller intermediate mx tire on my yz250x because it feel better to me for cross contry. Good topic Barry!

@aussiesam01 4 месяца назад

Nicely explained, thanks.

@crosstrainingenduro 4 месяца назад

😎👍

@wally1166 3 года назад

Glad i made the right decision ! Just brought golden tyres today after struggling to ride with my son on enduro tracks in wet conditions etc. The original tyres on bike were dog shit spent more time eating mud than riding lol Hopefully i can enjoy riding when my new tyres get fitted. Cheers Guys!

@crosstrainingenduro 3 года назад

I figure any brand new knobby should be good after old worn ones. 😁 I know they Goldentyre is very popular in hard enduros but personally I just like how long they last... I hate changing tyres!

@f18a 4 года назад

Nice analysis of an interesting and fairly important topic. After riding fatties for a year, I have found that I much prefer a chubby. Faster steering, no change in ride height, and similar traction and comfort. Also, MUCH better in west coast ruts. I haven't yet tried an 80. it's funny, however, how you say you can't much tell the difference in brands and then - both here and in other vids - strongly endorse Goldentyre (GT). Jus' keepin' it real.

@thesnake1317 4 года назад

I've always ran the 80/100-21 because it really does track better. Not the best for Hard enduro but you'll notice a difference if you're riding fast in single track compared to the 90/90-21. I find the 90/90-21 likes to walk a bit more (or climb out of ruts) but I know I/anyone can compensate for that with a slight change in technique.

@jondoe4667 2 года назад

I ride the fat tire here in the AZ desert. It gives more cushion on the sharp edge ricks and stays on top of sand well. My go to is the shinko 216. 90/100/21🇺🇲

@danielc5205 4 года назад

Out of all the years of riding, I've never deviated from the OEM tire sizes.

@Mineratron 2 года назад

Just re-watched this after wrestling my 90/100-21 round a mixed loamy and rock enduro loop then a hard pack MX track… normally loving it smashing though the desert at speed. Questioning going back to an 80/100 or a 90/90… 🤪😅

@RodNeufeld 4 года назад

I am just looking for a Gumby muppet tire, I am sure it will really help me out!

@endurotruckererniedesjardins 4 года назад

Funny this topic came up. I was just looking at the Dunlap sight for the at81 I noticed the 90x90x21 size n was like hmmmm I wonder??? So thanks for answering this question. I'm gonna order one up

@dustinwilsonkiwiyachtsman9853 4 года назад

How are they working out?

@joshadsett4835 2 года назад

thanks

@crosstrainingenduro 2 года назад

Welcome

@brianmartin414 4 года назад

The 80/100 seems to work best here in the deep Florida sand. The 90/90 has a heavier steering feel and doesn't seem to help any in deep sand. The wider front tire also rubs the fork boots on conventional fork models like a kdx 200( preferred weapon). Best choice here is the Michelin starcross 5 soft. The starcross 5 sand 80/100 works well in sand only but is twitchy on roots and palmettos( Florida native plant from hell).

@25wasthespeedlimit40 4 года назад

Being the indecisive person that I am, the tyre choice is made by whatever is already on the bike when I buy it. When time to replace tyres, same again. If the bike shop is out of that tyre, decision then made by the ship. Hope I'm not the only one 🤔

@xt225 4 года назад

Good stuff, makes sense. Being short I will give the 90:90 a go. Please do a similar exercise on rear tyre size. Currently running 140:80 in the back and it is taller than my previous tyre.

@rztrzt 4 года назад

Well 80% of 140 would make it taller than 80% of 120.

@xt225 4 года назад

@@rztrzt actually it was 120:90, but I get your drift and will go back to that and 90:90 if Michelin Enduro mediums do them.

@rztrzt 4 года назад

@@xt225 There's about a 4mm difference between 140/80 & 120/90 which I doubt anybody is going to notice with tyre compression. If you're on the short side my first recommendation would be to shave the seat foam. Messing with the suspension would be the last and most expensive option. Starting of with a known lower bike would be ideal. Happy trails!

@Mineratron 2 года назад

I’d like that 🤘

@2wheelsoffroad730 4 года назад

I run the 90/100 for rim protection and stability at speed. I need to checkout Goldentyre for my next set of tires. I’ve been using Shinkos lately.

@jflynn1996 4 года назад

My Shinko 216 front wore out significantly faster than my buddies Golden 216. I'll definitely choose the Golden next time around.

@shinyribs2178 3 года назад

Shinko made the fatty for Goldentyre originally, which is why they were identical in every way. Only difference being markings and GT gouging us 2x the price for literally the same tire. GT then started having their tires made in China, and that is when they went to the harder compound. If you want the original gummy fatty, Shinko still makes it. If you need a stiff tire and hard compound, Chinese GT is that tire. I still don't see me buying a Chinese GT anytime soon. GT was overcharging when selling us rebranded Shinko tires, and now they've moved to even cheaper production in China. Meh.

@charlesgutscher6249 4 года назад

I like the 90/90 most the time. But the 80/100 definitely does better in mud.

@mrm8325 4 года назад

My hand grips are rubber??

@jonnoMoto 4 года назад

I'd have to agree with you about the fatty, especially about ruts. The tyre doesn't want to stay in them. For me the positives outweigh the negatives. I haven't watched your vids in a while and noticed the visual quality increase. What camera are you using now?

@crosstrainingenduro 4 года назад

i've been shooting in flat mode then doing more post-production... and uploading bigger file sizes.

@markmtbrider 4 года назад

Love the fatty most of the time , but definitely will catch you out in the ruts and will wear you out if on a relatively short loop that gets deeply rutted from other racers/ riders. It can also push quite badly on top of muddy ground instead of biting in.

@davehowe_just_an_old_dirtbiker 3 года назад

Hey Barry! I installed the fatty tire on my Beta 300RR and am curious if you slid the forks tubes up in the triple camps to compensate for the larger diameter. 10 mm should be enough to get the bike geometry back to where it should be. My excessive muscular density tends to make the back end squat a bit more anyway so I didn't want to make it worse by having a taller front tire. Thanks!

@crosstrainingenduro 3 года назад

I didn't bother but I guess you could do that. 😊

@davehowe_just_an_old_dirtbiker 3 года назад

I was going to experiment with it but am generally lazy and was hoping you already had figured it out. Thanks for nothing!😂🤣😂

@christophernicola9293 4 года назад

I used to run a GT fatty on my x trainer. I found the front would wash out too easily and I suspect it was because of the extra diameter of the tread pattern. it would tend to sit on top of the mud rather than cut through it.

@jeanlavallee2887 Год назад

Did you adjust the for height and or sag to compensate for the taller sidewall of the 90/100?

@crosstrainingenduro Год назад

No, I usually just the suspension as is.

@sam-ww1wk 4 года назад

I weighed the fatty one time and it's like 3-4lbs heavier than your average tire. Thing's massive. All a trade off, I suppose. I run a fatty and biggest mousse until it shrinks to chubby size, then switch the dead fatty to a 90 and re-lube. Ride until the mousse and 90 die at the same time, then I repeat the process. I roll a fat chubby.

@ljprep6250 4 года назад

After reading the initial advertising for the tires, I feel compelled to ask you what you meant by your exit admonition "Stay rubber-side down, guys."

@aliksaja8271 4 года назад

english is not my first language, but i gues he simply means "try not to crash too often", lol

@crosstrainingenduro 4 года назад

yes!

@Superdisco199 Год назад

You're running much higher pressure in your voicebox compared to the original GT216 review lol

@dagsterblaster4973 4 года назад

5 rims for two bikes, all 5 fronts are the GT Fatty. If you ride nasty stuff, this tire delivers, also wears like iron and can handle long pavement rides, DOT approved.

@Smiling_mike 4 года назад

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@catmandan93 4 года назад

I usually buy whatever is round and made of rubber

@crosstrainingenduro 4 года назад

the black ones are usually good too

@3SPCOD 4 года назад

What is choobliss system

@crosstrainingenduro 4 года назад

we have a TUbliss video review

@chrisharris1641 4 года назад

Black knobby rubber mmmm I’ll ask the wife which one she uses 😂

@johnguilbert1349 4 года назад

They are Knobbed for her pleasure

@thehaze1972 4 года назад

Well we all know that it is only 20% the bike but how many percent of that is the tire?

@crosstrainingenduro 4 года назад

about 0.04295%

@AndrewBoundy 4 года назад

I think I'm getting a chubby. Let me check. Yep!

@alexjoseph4665 4 года назад

I run the fatty Shinko 216, its identical to the Goldentyre 216 for half the price.

@PrimalEnduro 4 года назад

I've not tried the GT fatty, but have run the Shinko version which is identical tread pattern but I can tell you it does not hold up. long before any of the knobs are slightly worn it starts tearing off side knobs. Even at half the price it's no bargain. I would like to try the GT version and see how it compares

@kt550 4 года назад

Normal 216 is good for me. Side knobs chunk fast though.

@robd8577 4 года назад

Maybe the same tread pattern, but there is a lot more to a tyre that that. Compound and construction is the black art of tyres.

@PrimalEnduro 4 года назад

@@robd8577 Well, we know that Shinko used to make this tire for GT until they moved production. Shinko owned the mold so they made their own version with the same mold. That is where the similarities end. I find the Shinko version to be useless after very few hours. No bargain for me. I would like try the GT version and see how the side knobs hold up.

@alexjoseph4665 4 года назад

@@PrimalEnduro With the terrain I ride I haven't had any issues with chunking