You are just absolutely amazing! We recently lost our church sound engineer, and because of all your helpful and extremely professional tutorials, I've been able to step up and assist the sound team. THANK YOU BRUNO!
You're welcome, glad the videos have been helpful. Don't be afraid to engage a local pro sound engineer in your area to train your team - they can do much more in person than I can through the internet ;)
As an amateur musicien, i have to deal mixers and in/out equipment. Siince his beginning, I regularly come back to Bruno’s video to refresh my knowledge. No one explain like him. Merci Bruno❤ hope that all these views on RU-vid pay you.
Your videos are pristine. And EXTREMELY informative. I cannot thank you enough for being so detailed yet basic. Just remember, someone in Canada is always looking forward to your next instructional video. Regards,
+FluteHypnosia Thanks very much for getting in touch, glad the videos have been helpful. Feel free to get in touch directly if you have any questions :)
I attended a fairly well-known audio school known as Metalworks Institute (offshoot of Metalworks Studios) for Audio Production & Engineering. While they employ industry professionals, this video taught me *WAY* more than that program could've. Very non-intuitive and non-engaging "hands on" lessons with multi-million SSL consoles. I applaud you sir for your in-depth and well explained tutorial. *Bravo!*
Great to hear from you, glad the video was helpful. It's unfortunate that a lot of people in our industry are technically very proficient but have little ability to impart those skills to others in a systematic and pedagogically sound way.
One of the clearest explanations out there. And such bright articulation ! Not a single "You know", "I mean", "Uummm", "And aaaaaa" not a single time !! Thanks a thousand times for sharing crystal clear infos !
What an absolutely amazing and informative video this, is just what I was looking for. I have to setup a six piece band using the 2x Behringer xenyx 1002b battery operated mixers feeding 2 x AHA battery operated powered speakers. As you guessed there are no mains. This video has given me the confidence to purchase those mixers so I can do the gig! Thank you so much!
Dude thank you so much for this video. Im helping a church that has 2 Digital consoles and they are running out of channels. They have a Midas M32 and a Behringer x32. Unfortunately this consoles can not be hook up to add more channels digitally. So I had to go back to basics and refresh my memory. Your video was the best one. IM glad you never took it off. Thanks so much.
GLB Productions they almost running out. And the bad part is that the X32 doesn't allow to add another mixer for additional channels. You can only do a slave mixer for monitoring.So I'm going to do a sub mix and send it thru the auxes.
Thank you for this video - you have confirmed what I have been thinking and you have saved me some time pondering. I am going to use this to free up some channels in my mixing desk for recording......... the sketch track instruments in live room into summing mixer > summing mixer out into 2 inputs on recording desk which will be recording the drum tracks. The summing mixer can be placed with the drummer where he can use it for a head phone mix where he can control the levels. This just uses 2 channel on the recording mixer compared to 4 (Bass, guitar 1, guitar 2 and vocals) best wishes
Hi Bruno. Having been thrust into the position of leading a band a number of years ago, following the passing of my brother, I have found your videos to be an absolutely invaluable source of information regarding mixer settings, use of DI boxes etc etc. Not only useful but extremely easy to follow. Keep up the great work Bruno, Cheers, Stuart
This video is helpful. Thank you Bruno. Can you make a video, how to run a separate mixer and amps for monitors. i do not know that how i can mix/control the stage monitors when we have more instruments on stage but the main foh console has only 3 aux sends. Thanks again Bro.
Bruno, These videos are such a big help. Even though I normally set sound for our band, I sometimes always run into certain situations were I need help....and you are that link and professional advice found. So easily understood, and no time wasted. Thank You!
Thank you for your explanations. I'd like to know how to connect a crossover a compressor an equaliser to the same mixer and what are their effect over the sound
Thanks that was a massive help. I doing a school reunion and putting together a band with old class mates. Started off quite low key but the drummer now says he is fully micing up his kit and has a mixer. So this will surely help!! Thanks a million
And I keep on learning... I have been submixing before, I never considered the 3 points you raised at the beginning; never knew about the 3 options of connecting the 2 mixers. I have learned about the 2 clicks for a balanced and unbalanced jack. You are the best! Thank you. this is the 4th video I have watched consecutively, just for the sake of learning.
I own a small sound company. I often use older analog gear, when specific gear is not being requested, or Im not meeting the requirements of a technical rider in a contract, and I can basically take whatever I want. I have a Peavey SRC 2400 24 channel console. I also have a Peavey MD 12 channel mixer. Peavey really anticipated the linking of consoles, and generally had really good patching facilities to make that possible. There are numerous times where I have used the 24 channel as the main console, and the MD is linked to it for additional channels...maybe for an opening act, etc... Peavey even allowed for the PFL/Solo feature to be linked via a single TRS 1/4" cable. So from the smaller MD mixer I take the Main L/R out into the Main Left/Right Aux In on the 2400. That simply sends the main signal from the MD to the Main bus on the 2400. This way you are not wasting input channels on the main mixer. The same feature applies to auxiliaries, and sub groups. This also makes calibration between mixers a bit easier , by removing the preamps that you are using on the input channels. This allows things like main graphic eqs, monitor eqs, and effects to benefit both mixers. The Peavey mixer you have there, features two stereo return busses...which route directly to your main outs. You could simply use two 1/4" cables coming out of the Mackie main outs, to the Peavey stereo return in #1. That would give you back your #1 & 2 input channels on the Peavey. Linking to busses directly together tends to give a better sound quality...using input channels can color the sound, depending on the quality of the preamps you're going through.
Yes I remember those old Peavey consoles, they had some truly unique and innovative features like the one you describe. It's great that you are keeping this older gear in the field - show us young guys how it used to be done 😅
I'm so glad I found this as resolve to an on stage solution to my problem. I'm doing 5 piece band on A&H 22FX via 30 metre snake... now they tell me they have hired a line dance team that wants own full contol of their music and wireless mic! So fast came to the conclusion I need to put my mini 8 channel Beringher at their on stage position... so the last topic of this video requiring ground lift via a two channel DI will do tbe trick The Beringher has balanced TRS out etc. Setting tbe gains using a spotify test tone is most helpful. Another interesting thing was using another desk for its effects coming in on the inserts. It's the lead singer that was'nt happy with the effects on the 22FX but thats probably me that needs more practise but hello I can use tbe desk tbe lead singer likes and simply plug in... awsome value gained tbrough this video. Many thanks
I spent probably 8 hours scouring the internet and youtube looking for an answer to my question that no one seemed to be able to do, or make clear. In one video you have answered everything, SO clearly and concise. Actually learning new things, and finding answers to questions I didn't even know how to ask. Mad respect, thank you for how knowledgable you are.
When I had to "buddy up" two mixers I made Passive Mixing adaptors with resistors inside the jacks and XLRs. I wanted the foldback and FX sends to be parralled as well as just the main outs. The resistor values will vary depending on the mixers being used, but unbalanced mixing is often done with 20k (or even 10k) for each hot line with a 10k from hot to ground. Balanced passive mixing uses a resistor for each input hot and cold with another resistor across the hot cold line (roughly 1k for a 600R line). Sounds complicated but really it's just connecting up Y adapters with resistors in them. One some mixers, usually larger old-school types. you may have the luxury of Bus Inputs. These are desighned specifically for marrying consoles and make the job Sooo much easier. 😉
@@GLBProductions I'm talking spilcing the outputs together (main out outs And sends) rather than feeding into channel strips. Saved on channels, plus enabled full use of sends on both mixers. But yes this was around 2002. I've done it with Soundcraft Studio 16-8-2 (Sends modded Pre-Fade for live), Behringer Euro32 32-8-2 and Studiomaster Gold 16-4-2
Oh I get it you were combining the mixer outputs - good to hear that you used a resistive network rather than simply hard-wiring the outputs together. I've seen that a lot and it can cause some really noisy problems!
Bruno, my compliments and thanks. I inherited the defacto "sound guy" role in my current band even though I'm the drummer. Normally our set ups are small but we have a gig up coming up out doors with added musicians and huge space, so I've had to engineer our set up and have latched on to your series. We normally can get away with a 1200W Mackie 808S but for this gig need to sent 2 sub mixers through it for Drums and additional inputs. Have it all mapped out but the Leader and creative driver of our group doesn't get the engineering problem. Your tutorials, particularly this one are a terrific resource (My biggest fear is incorrect gain stucture between the submixers and main mixer) and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. I've got plenty of cable, adaptors, mics etc- but am picking upo a "swiss Army" knife today :-) Bless you. Regards, CO
You're welcome Chris, great to hear from you! Connecting TWO sub mixers is quite exceptional, even in professional situations - you'll definitely find that the signal generator comes in handy for setting levels! Be very sure that the mixers are all on the same power circuit and you should be fine. In cases where the tester is not with you, any pink noise or test tone app can be used instead.
Always an admirer or AC Clarke. Great quote. One last question- Re the Tone Generator which non mic (line Level) should it be set to- +4 or -10? Assuming Pro Plus 4 but want to be clear. Thanks again.
Great video, thanks! I did this a few weeks before watching your video with a Phonic MU200XP and a Phonic MU1202, I used RCA to 6.35mm cables and took the Record Output of the first mixer and then plugged it into one of the stereo input channels on the second mixer. I was doing this because the main mixer we have a school, a Soundcraft Signature 16 blew up a few weeks ago and we had a load of shows to do so using this bodge setup was the only option really.
Great! What a great explanation of this application. I’ve been making music for a long time and seem to be addicted to purchasing and using older 80’s mixers for my personal use but I’ve found that I’ve run out of channels. I’ve always done pretty much exactly as you’ve demonstrated but this is a great conformation with the knowledge to back it up. I really appreciate this video. Thank you.
CLEAR, CONCISE INSTRUCTION. I AM GLAD i HAVE FOUND YOUR VIDEOS. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR KNOWLEDGE SHARING SAVING ALL OF US HOURS OF SEARCHING FOR LESSER INFORMATION. TECHNICAL BUT GENERAL ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT PROFESSIONAL SOUND PRODUCTS AND SETUPS.
This is one of the best tutorials (generally speaking) very clear, very informative. Thank you very much, I was looking for exactly these informations.
Excellent explanation! I think it's the only video that explains this. I have two mixers . One small and one larger. But even so , when I want miking drums, the channels are not enough. So I thought in miking drums with small mixer and send that mixture to the largest mixer ; but did not know if that if he could do without running risks of damage. Your video is excellent and I think you're the only one that has explained . Greetings and thanks!
Your video is very informative..applied your instructions as I connected two mixers together for the first time..a big thank you coming all the way from Fiji..
great video, thank you, I have learned new things - I already performed some concerts in the past where I had to connect another little mixer to my main powered mixer - in my case I used the THE MAIN OUT channels from the little mixer to the input on THE TAPE channels on my main mixer and I had no problems - they were near each other on the same table and I have used a special cable for this kind of connection , directly made from the factory ... probably it is not the best solution, for sure - and your video made more clear all these ! ... :) thank you very much once again , be bleseed ! ... :)
to start out, we are small potatoes. I've had to do this at home when we have had 8 musicians in our basement. small mixer into a Peavey mixer/amp. I used mt cell phone with a noise generator and had my tablet with a signal strength meter (db) I referenced all mics at the same DB level. we had one person that talks and sings very softly, we had to increase her mic, but everything worked great. We also connected 4 guitars, and a keyboard to it. We had a separate base head/ bottom. All and all we had a great time. Our jam sessions will start about 2PM and go to 11 or 12 at night. Some go and some came late. My wife plays Keyboard, Guitar, Base, accordion and learning the Mandolin. Check out Vickieskeys on FB. Thank you for you help. I always learn something and here I learned a lot.
Very educational. Very well explained with a clear tone, direct thus avoiding any confusion what so ever. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I Have watched a few of your other videos and I like the way you explain things. Best regards from Tustin, California.
You're welcome, thanks for watching. If you would like to support the channel please consider signing up to become a patron at www.patreon.com/glbproductions Every little bit helps!
on occasion, i come up short on mic. inputs. to remedy this i grab one or more of my shure m-67. they are relatively cheap on e-bay. a short xlr cableis all thats needed .you lose only 1 mic input on your main mixer, set to mic level. the shure mixer has a built-in tone generator for setting levels. the shure has 4 inputs. if this is not sufficient. add a 2nd or 3rd m-67. they can be banked with a short rca cable. some of the old stuff works good, unless you need stereo on the sub mix. then all bets are off.
Great points - certainly can't complain for the price! Besides the stereo issue, another thing to bear in mind about the M67s is that they don't have phantom power.
A massive thank you, your videos are so informative, and explained things clearly and concisely, also excellent lighting and camera work with no awkward shadows. I have inherited an older Soundcraft EFX8 to mix for a banjolele play-out group, CV19 permitting..
+Scott Rader You're most welcome. If you would like to support the channel please consider signing up to become a patron at www.patreon.com/glbproductions?ty=h Every little bit helps!
You're welcome 😊 Yes the cable tester in the video has finally been discontinued. That Behringer unit is an unlicensed copy - buy at your own risk! Remember that any test tone/pink noise generator can be used - you can even use an app on your phone.
brilliant video! You clearly know your stuff and take great pains not to rush the viewer. I have learning issues and enjoyed it immensely. Unlike many 'pros' you don't ASSUME any superior knowledge level. Subscribed to your wonderful channel & 11/10 & 5*s. More please!
The reason I use a sub mixer is, my Yamaha MG16 has no effects loops on each channel, so I use my Samson MDR1064 for any channels that need to be processed.
I've been using a sub mixer and a passive di box with ground lift in place of an active di box in order to connect a bass that doesn't have an active preamp. I no longer have to worry about those 9volt batteries running out and the bassist plugged his headphones into it, eliminating that stage rumble the bass caused. I'm not smelling smoke so, I think I did it all right..
Yes this approach has been used with keyboard rigs for a long time, the only disadvantage being that you need to run additional AC power on stage. The solution to dead batteries in active DI boxes is to run them off phantom power and just take the batteries out.
GLB Productions Okay, good to know that I'm not doing this in a dangerous manner. I tried running the active di box without the battery with phantom power but was never able to get a decent volume with out some humming. plus the bass player was rattling the entire stage with his huge amp speaker. So I call myself killing two birds with one sub mixer. Thanks for the confirmation that it should be fine.
Man, you are the best! No kidding, your tutorials are the best one in this area on yt, its like school teaching..you are so good, and thank you very much!!!
+Vladislav Roza Thank you, glad the videos have been helpful! I was a school teacher before I became a sound engineer so that probably explains the feel of the videos ;)
BEST Audio Tutorials on RU-vid, thanks for your time and dedication. Is it possible to do this the other way round, send additional main mixer signal to sub mixer? To my understanding you would need a signal splitter so that you can connect specific signal/channels selected to the mixer and then send out from the sub mixer to earphone and monitor setup. Finances are an issue so the correct way would be buy a new mixer, but cannot afford that right now...
I am trying to get a In-Ear monitor set up. What I have tried is to send voice via AUX 1 and Instruments via AUX 2 as so I can control volume of both. Was not to successful on that, volume stays the same unfortunately (will trouble shoot later why this is so..) Anyway I was thinking if it is possible to take the channels that I want to a mixer, this would split the channels to earphones for the people that play instruments (via a Behringer HA8000 V2), and also to a on stage monitor just for the vocals. The sub mixer would be in place of the splitter, giving me more control, and eliminating the splitter. By the way this is for a church.
Yes you could do that, but in-ear monitors really require a specialist setup with the correct stereo sends for each musician. It is better to use an all-wedge setup than to have some on in-ears and some on wedges.
"Now if you are truly desperate you can route to the the tape inputs." That caught me off guard and made me laugh. As musicians and sound guys, we are always desperate to patch things together with duct tape, bubble gum, zip ties, etc. Whatever it takes to make things work.
Well, I wouldn't say we are *always* desperate... as a professional I try to plan carefully and anticipate as many problems as possible by carrying lots of spares, tools etc. There will be moments of desperation but that shouldn't' be the norm. Thanks for watching! 😊
Hi, in terms of the two-click method for recognising balanced and unballanced input, I am not sure if that is always the case. On my Yamaha MG10XUF, I experience the double click on all plugs including the unballanced - I think the manufacturer just used same input connectors throughout the device and probably just used 2 out of the 3 conductor contacts where specified unbalanced channels........I would therefore only use the rule for confirming that the input is unbalanced in case there is only one click. Otherwise I am blown by the quality of the tutorials, wow. All the best ;-)
Yes I think you are correct Tomas - I have only encountered TS sockets on Peavey mixers, other manufacturers seem to use all TRS sockets, presumably to simplify the logistics chain. Fortunately Yamaha does a good job of labelling BAL or UNBAL to remind you how the socket is wired!
Many moons ago I was put in the position to run sound for my church and Bruno was my very first Virtual Sound Instructor. For that I thank you. I have an outdoor event coming up in which I manage to run out of all 16 XLR channels from a Mackie CFX20 MKII. I have another CFX16. My question is instead of daisy chaining the mixers can I not feed the main outputs of the 2 mixers into the 4 available inputs of my amp (Crown CE4000)? Thanks Bruno, keep up the good work!
+GLB Productions My bad. It looks that way but I have never use them all. 2 connections using either XLR or 1/4 TRS and 2 connections fastened by phillips screws. Our QSC RMX2450 actually has 4 but again I am not sure all 4 are available or you can use either set only. Thanks for the quick reply.
