another top tip; when your booking 12 weeks in advance. check !st class for your journey. because like standard class it has a raising ticket pricing structure, but 1st class sell more slowly so standard class may have sold out a couple of tiers of discounted tickets and they are now more expensive than the slower selling 1st class tickets. Daft but true and when it happens the free stuff they give you in 1st class is all the sweeter.
If you have a railcard here is the trick: During morning peak train from Euston to Watford Jn will cost less if you use Oyster. (£8.3 v £10.2) The same holds true during the offpeak. (£3.5 v £6.75) However, there is no evening peak on the National Rail network, but there is one on the TfL, so between 16 and 19 on the weekdays Anytime Single ticket costs less (£6.75 v £8.3). Does it make sense? No. Can you save enough money for a cup of coffee by knowing that? Yes
Thank you for the great tip with trainline. I'm going to travel from Edinburgh to Inverness in December, and I saw prices at about up to 45 pounds one-way, but because of the booking in Advance, I just pay 5 pounds, thats brilliant!
I am really shocked how expansive train travelling is in the UK! I mean, tickets of Deutsche Bahn (German rail) are far from being cheap but they are not *that* expansive.
It's because the fare structure is ridiculous and our Department for Transport are so inefficient at maintaining the rails that they charge train operating companies ridiculous amounts to access them. The DfT also control most ticket prices too, except for advance fares and some off-peak fares, which can be hundreds of pounds cheaper than the walk-up fare
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its criminal you should have to go to these lengths to save a few quid leeds to london on the day at peak time costs £250 for a return , but if you split your tickets at peterborough it drops about £90 and you stay on the same train its an absolute joke!
@@cookingwithcallum1904 no it’s criminal. Just pay for distance traveled. I used to travel between Amsterdam and Utrecht for a while it only cost me 5,60 per day. 2,80 each way a distance of over 40km
There is a reason for it in fairness. Its to do with limiting costs for travel within your county/region. Travelling from one of these rail regions to another is more expensive than a journey within the region, to try and keep local travel affordable and rip off people for the longer journeys. But some stations are on the border of these regions and therefore count as both, and by splitting there, you end up not having to pay for crossing one of these region boundaries
Wish I knew about split ticketing earlier! Just bought tickets to London from Manchester for £250, when it’s only £130 if I split ticket at Milton Keynes!!
Are buy tickets at virgin trains from London to Manchester seen as your traveling with them, buy tickets with your usual company you travel with as they legally can't charge you booking fees.
Or you can just buy a ticket and use what’s technically an invalid route! Leeds to Sheffield (Not Doncaster) is £12:30 off peak. Doesn’t say you can’t go via Manchester with it as I’ve done quite a few times! When XC services arrive at Sheffield the conductors nearly always say ‘change here for stations to Manchester and Nottingham!’
On your commute on 5 day a work week, it there is virtually no savings on even an annual pass when compared to oyster card payasyougo. Its almost like they inflate the prices of your daily paper tickets just to make it more tempting to part with a months salary up front.
Was visiting a mate in Chester with another mate. We landed in Manchester Airport. It was a little cheaper to get a taxi than taking the train. And easier and faster. It was ridiculous!
More expensive from LIV to WAC. But two or three times more cheaper from WAC to LIV. Basically cheaper from warring central station that Liverpool station.
Walk up fares will be more expensive than online fares for the most part. Is it really fair to expect the ticket officer at the station to be able to quickly come up with the cheapest fare involving 5 part split tickets including 2 overlapping split tickets involving 3 trains each way?
Rotherham to Rugby in 1964, booking cheap day returns at Rotherham, Sheffield and Birmingham with 4 minutes to get over the footbridge and back at Sheffield. Those were the days. Marvellous !
In a system with plain transparent prices the person at the ticket counter wouldn't have to fool around with split tickets in the first place. In most countries, ticket prices rise degressively with the distance covered - so saving money by split tickets appears to be a pretty British thing - I never heard about this before...
The Government thinks rising rail costs is a good way for railway companies to make money. But that's not the case because rising rail costs price people off railways. What the Government should actually do is to lower the rail costs. This way, more people will live in the UK due to the Government lowering rail costs and passengers are saving more money while railway companies make more money. This might sound like a lie, but railway companies will actually make money due to lowered costs though they think they'll lose money. Discomfort is saving lives.
We may be paying three times as much as our French counterparts, but don't forget that our railway system is at least three times as worse than theirs.
Train fares are rip off. I'm a rail enthusiast and am starting to observe trains without going on one. Use national express coaches or easyJet, so much cheaper
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Season tickets for me is a rip off. I get the train 5times a week so it saves me money if I get them one by one or pre order a direct train which for me is 55p cheaper each ticket. From WAC TO LIV.
Blindly adopting such a system will be a disaster. Maybe IR can allot individual express trains to interested operators, control general unreserved ticket price and leave reservation ticket prices up to the market with a formula to distribute the proceeds from ticket sales between the operator and IR.
Kings Cross Thameslink existed from when Thameslink opened in the late 1980s until 2007 when St Pancras was redeveloped to take High Speed 1 services. It was far away from the actual kings Cross mainline and underground station so was inconvenient, so it was replaced by St Pancras Thameslink which integrated with the redeveloped station and had much quicker interchanges with mainline at St Pancras and Kings Cross as well as Kings Cross St Pancras underground station
Peter & Pete this reply adds nothing to the video. If you want to be thrown around, take 2x as long to arrive at your destination and stand next to people who smell like they haven’t showered at all then be my guest and ride the bus.
The coach is run parallel to only a small percentage of rail lines, and many coach services operate to where there's no train service. So in most cases it's either the extortionate rail journey or the painfully long bus journey, or you may even have no choice and only the bus serves your area.