How to Destroy an NBA Legacy: The Downfall of Doc Rivers 

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No one has done less with more. The 2008 Celtics win despite of Doc, not because of him.

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Money money money Yeah yeah

Doc stacking the teams and claiming getting to the championship involves luck is why he's a joke.

It's true. When he has an undermanned or injured roster, they play way over their heads (See 48 win Clippers team that had no stars), but when he has lots of talent, he becomes a spineless coward who can't do anything but argue with the refs while his all bench lineups and his hero-balling star players blow another 20+ point lead in the second half. I almost look forward to the games where Philly has one or more of their best players out because they suddenly have ball movement and team chemistry, and I don't knock Joel and James for it as much because I know Glenn has no offensive approach besides "give the ball to Joel, give to ball to James." There's video of Harden saying to him that he thinks they should run pick and roll and Glenn is saying "first, we need to establish a pecking order." He literally enforces a slow, inefficient, iso-ball offense when he has more talented players that he can do that with. So many times Maxey has enough daylight to attack the rim and he just defers to Harden or Embiid because Glenn is in his ear telling him to give it to James or Joel. I don't think even Embiid and Harden want to play that way, it's just that Glenn thinks it's still 2008 and that he can eek out a championship run with 3 all stars playing that way, even though he needed a record amount of playoff games to do so, including a 7 game first round series against the 8th seed. His teams win in spite of him, not because of him (unless he has a mediocre or worst roster).

@sgshumblecrumb6046 I know you'll definitely agree with this, but I bet you even someone with hardly any basketball knowledge could've won that 08 chip with 3 1/2 hofs in which Rondo is that half. Thibs was the mastermind defensively, and KG was that alpha dog they needed. If either Van Gundy, Mike Brown, D'Antoni, or Dwane Casey had won a chip and had Doc's longevity, they would've been looked at as all time great coaches and probably would've accomplished as much as Doc.

Arguably the greatest analogy or saying of the new year LOL excellent point

Please fire this man. My 76ers would’ve won already won if it wasn’t for him

And like I said, it took them seven games for them to get past an 8 seeded Hawks team and a LeBron led Cavs team. And as far as Doc goes, he'll get in the hof one day regardless based off of his longevity in the regular season with him already won 1000 games as a coach.

I’ve always said this. Preach!

I agree 100% he is vastly overrated the man hasn’t been past the 2nd round since the 2012 ECF. Most game 7 losses & how many 3-1 leads has he blown ?

I mean, Doc coaching teams up well past their talent level can't be ignored on squads like those pre-Kawhi Clippers and the other squad he won COY for, thr Magic I think.

to be fair he went twice won 1

I can honestly say I’ve never heard anyone say doc is a great coach like you said he’s still riding on that championship he brought to Boston an seeing how he bounces from team to team more then Westbrook now is a clear sign he’s a mediocre coach who got lucky with that championship I’d rather have Ty Lou coaching then doc any day

The Mike McCarthy of the nba idk how people keep hiring him. I’d rather give someone a chance to be a head coach for the first time then hire doc who has statistically proven he cant get it done outside of having rondo Allen Garnett and pierce and still that was one time

its still aging well with the horrible start for the bucks

Here we go again, a year later and Doc doing what he does best again! Killed the Bucks season as soon as be showed up lol

If Kawhi didn't get injured, I would've given them a great chance at beating the Suns

@@Bugzilla021 Hell they would have beaten the Suns if Kawhi didn't get injured. And Rivers got lucky that they didn't make it to the finals because that would have made him look like an even bigger fool especially after what he said about Tyronn Lue

overcame two 0-2 deficits too. ty lue the goat

@@pool5863 Ty Lue the goat at 0-2 comebacks lol

And yeah y'all went to not making the playoffs after he left too 😆😆😆😆😆 the coach you guys got now sucks and if they don't win a championship this year he's probably going to be fired

Philly's problem isn't Doc. It's that their team is led by two career playoff chokers in Embiid and Harden. Both were choking away series before he got there. The same is true of his Clippers squads sans the Kawhi-PG one where Kawhi and PG hadn't figured out how to play together yet. Doc didn't draw up a play for CP3 to botch 2 late game plays in back to back games trying to draw fouls when nothing was there. And CP3, as great as he is, was collapsing in the playoffs before and after Doc. Twice in N.O. against the Spurs and Nuggets and then in the Finals up 2-0 and then up 3-2 last season. In both the Denver and Mavs series, his team's dropped the final game(s) in record blowouts where the teams seemed to lack any kind of fight at all. Doc's biggest problem, again, has been coaching teams with career playoff chokers. When he had guys with killer instinct, they won it all and then made it back to the Finals despite being old as dirt as like a 4 seed. Philly will most likely fail come playoff time. Doc will most likely get blamed, but odds are it'll be because Embiid and Harden will do their usual number of playing small in the big moments and games.

@@J-Hue I don't know if that ECF vs Toronto a choke or not that was one of the luckiest shots I've ever seen in my life

and the crazy part was they almost did blow a 3-0 lead or atleast go to game 7

@@J-Hue Harden is not a carrer playoff choker gtfo. The fact that his team lost in his prime 5 times vs Golden State who is a top 3 team ever is heavily ignored. You only realy could argue he choked vs San Antonio 2017 but other than that he played to his max and never got swept. Embiid on the other hand.....

@@J-Hue Even when he won it all, he needed 7 games to beat a 37-45 team in the first round of the playoffs when he had a 66 win team. When they lost in the Finals 2 years later, you know what Phil Jackson said about them during the series if you actually watched the video and you saw what happened. Then there's the Clippers/Nuggets series. That's a cheap excuse to explain choking a 3-1 lead with Kawhi Leonard who damn sure isn't a choker. Embiid and Harden also didn't choke away shit before Glenn arrived. Embiid has been stuck in a dumb organization (that hires Glenn among other things) with no floor spacing on the roster as a back to basket post player and two overmatched coaches (Glenn and Brett Brown.) Harden.....maybe there's some playoff demons there, but his overall numbers in the playoffs are not far off from his career average, and he still went toe to toe with one of the hardest to beat teams ever in the Warriors dynasty during their Durant era. They went 7 games in the WCF against them and had a 3-2 lead before CP3 went down. They probably go on to beat a short handed Cavs team that GS curb stomped for the title. Doc coaches playoff chokers. Those playoff chokers all played for Doc Rivers lol.

😂😂😂😂 He was just brutally honest..

@@kenrickeason he was brutally honest. then years later, he and the Lakers got swept by Dallas in the 2011 Western conference semifinals, giving Dallas their only championship ring,

@@lhourdeanthony4237 They're talking about blown 4th quarter leads and you're talking about a play-off series loss. Apples and oranges.

@@atomsk1972 it just goes to show you, being brutally honest without looking at the karma that lies ahead could be even more brutally painful...that goes to show you that what goes around, comes around...

@@lhourdeanthony4237 nah you're just talking some bullshit lmfao

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I know we all kinda expected a philly implosion again but It didn't it would be another 3-2 doc x embiid disaster class

And then was fired

If only his Lakers stint could have been fulfilled.

@@OH_MY_DOGGG regardless. He's a champion coach in Houston for crying out loud. He should be instantly in the list.

We discounting Clyde?

@@acnicodemus4734yeah so with that logic Tyron Lue is on the list too lol

@@pmaigotthat7211 lol, Rudy was a decorated coach, also won a coach of the year award

They also have a plethora of great assistant coaches, like the defense master himself, Tom Thiboudeau. Doc was literally handed a golden platter of talent and coaching.

If the vets have high iq and minimize the ego then there's only so much a coach needs to do unless it's a specific playstyle.Luke Walton got immediate coaching gigs because of him playing step in coaching the warriors in 2016.Dude had absolutely no influence on anything.A fan in the stands coulda did the same shit Walton did which was literally nothing

None they could of coached themselves like the the 17 warriors

@@mxhughes as a Lakers fan I was flabbergasted when he got the coaching job. He was clueless when he played with Kobe and often looked lost on the floor. NOT at all someone I would give a coaching job to

Exactly 😂 many coaches could have won with that team

🙄 how did doc name get beside these 3 great coaches

He is not where near the coach but he has a better basketball career than them cuz he played. Yes Phil and Riley did too but they weren’t as good as Doc

On god 😂 I was tellin all my homies the Hawks would upset Philly, only cause I knew Doc was a choke artist

Still one of the greatest coaches of all time

@@theuncancelable hell naw

@@jeezyhuncho2783 can't disagree with facts boi

@@theuncancelable no.

That might have been intentional 🤣

This is some funny ironic shit 😂

No pun intended 😆

We're going through that with Joe mazzulla

Kobe Has 5 Would've Had 6 If It Wasn't For Doc Rivers LOL Hell Kobe Bryant Would've Had Two Three Peats In Two Different Eras 2000-2002 And 2008-2010

Loldwl i never see one man milk one ring so badly so tyron liu is one of the greatest coach he win a much harder ring lol coming back from 1 3 down while doc losing from 3 1 up lol

@@ruelandrade5185 💯true that lol

@@jonathanwashington9199 more like Kevin Garnett. Doc is not responsible for that ring. Once KG got hurt and didnt fully recover to what he was before the injury, the Celtics were done. Made another run to the finals but it wasn't the same KG.

​@@jonathanwashington9199 it was Bynum's knee more than Doc.

right weve had so many good players let go because of of his trash coaching players like isiah joe charles bassey and paul reed still not getting minutes

@@idontlikeuidiot2060 this dude really thinks Isaiah joe Is a sixer still 😂

Charles bassey on the Spurs

Philly has everything besides a good HC

@@dylanhotrum7354 my grammar is trash but I meant to say they were let go

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Facts 💯

Coaches shouldn't have huge ego no matter how successful they are. They are nothing without good players, Lebron could carry trash team to NBA finals, Gregg Popovich can't.

Tom Thibs is one of the main reasons why the Celtics were that good and won a chip

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And now they're doing a lot more than that.

Bucks going to the Finals

@@MrCasey__ HAhah who are you kidding

Bucks just lost in a blowout a few days ago 😞

​@@victor_autopilotliving5786it might be joever for you guys

It's like when you first start playing a fighting game and don't know any special moves, you rely on fundamentals and solid basics. Then when you learn the projectiles and uppercuts, you become reliant and predictable on over-usage. All the dynamic skill goes out the window and becomes focused on "I'm going to hit them with this hadoken right after I get up"

The Celtics ram should’ve won a minimum two rings

How many minutes did Doc play?

@@aidanwatson910Zero. And yes, a lot of blame are on the players, but Doc is NOTORIOUS for NEVER making adjustments to his lineups. Players can only do so much when their lineup is outmatched by a better coach. And besides, he's the ONLY constant in all these blown leads. So you kind of have to put blame on him

@@DwayneIsK1NG There isn't really any way around your points. Doc doesn't adjust. Case in point during their series against the Nuggets in the semis in the bubble, Paul George completely fell apart and went stone cold from the field (I mean he wasn't hitting anything, nor was he rebounding well). Did Doc take him out and have any of his bench players take over in an attempt to spark the offense? Nope. He kept playing him starters minutes, in late game situations, despite the fact that his shooting cratered. Same thing with Simmons against the Hawks. Simmons fell apart like an old Schwinn left out in the rain. Doc kept him out there. I mean Trey Young, who's a fraction of the size of Ben Simmons, made him look like an absolute punk. For whatever reason Doc doesn't pull guys when they're not playing well.

​@@aidanwatson910ppl defending doc in 2023 is crazy asf

@@kingtachalla6181 I'm not defending him I'm saying a much of a notorious choke job coach he is so are a lot of players he's coached. And I'm also not going to act like NBA coaching in general is effective without the right couple Elite level plays, like the Celtics has and were able to overcome Doc's coaching for 1 championship when we should have had 3. Blame dispersion.

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He gets a lot of things wrong for a summary channel, they didn’t have 4 all stars until 2011

Yeah and grant hill was always injured. We never got to even see a full season of what him and mcgrady would have looked like together

He doesn't deserve HOF. Longevity has nothing to do with HOF. He won once with a stacked af roster. The fact this guy gets job after job is remarkable.

dude has had top talent on every team he has coached other than (arguably) the magic. Of course he’s gonna have a lot of wins

@itsyourenotyourstupid9045 If Mike Brown, D'antoni, Van Gundy brothers, or Dwane Casey was coaching the 08 team and had the longevity of Doc, they would've been looked as all-time great coaches and would've been as accomplished as him.

Sad that he wouldn’t let Duncan’s family travel with the team otherwise he’d retire a Magic.

He rode the coat tails of great players AND assistant coaches. Proof that he aint that great is his inability to make adjustments when it matters most, hence the 3-1 curse. 🤣

Thibs helped him with that defensive scheme

Typical of white people to say that a black man’s success as a manager or coach of a team is in spite of him! What have you inspired or won…

Was a 3-2 lead this time not 3-1

Definitely a good and logical comparison :)

Seriously how does he keep getting a job

@@lamchunting856 diversity and he kisses ass to the right people. Mind you I’m saying this as a black man, the man is a dynasty killer.

@@lamchunting856 he’s top 10 coaches of all time

Right. Lacking self-accountability is the worst trait any leader or manager can have - no matter the industry. I dunno how he gets away with it (oh right that one ring 15 years ago where he had 3 HOF’ers in their prime on the same squad).

@@RacksonRacksonRibss 🤣🤣 Every member of that team juiced tf out of that one ring, w the exception of Ray.. u would think they won about 3 the way they talk Abt themselves

Last season Embiid had a busted face and hand, and Harden was far from fully fit and had only been with the team for about three months. To lose that series to a very good Miami Heat team under those circumstances was no disgrace. I get a lot of the criticism of Rivers, and agree with some of it, but this video is just a hit-piece with a clickbait title designed to maximize views. As a Sixers fan I hope this current group (which is much deeper and more connected without crybaby Simmons) wins it all and silences the haters.

@@paulyramone1 Nets and Celtics i can't see losing to the sixers. Too many weapons. maxy is the only player I see that has that dawg in him. T Harris, harden etc... Ehh idk. I'm not a fan of any team particularly but for u I hope I'm wrong

You described it perfectly. Rivers said they weren't expected to win it all in the season when they lost to bloody Hawks. Embiid blamed Simmons that season, and then blamed Harden next season. He wasn't wrong, but that's not the way to do things. While it is true that Sixers would've been champions if everyone played like Embiid, the same could be said for any other team with a top 10 player. If Joel wants to be the leader he has to carry the team both on and off the court and it's probably too late for Rivers.

And in that run, it took them seven games to get past an 8 seeded team and a LeBron led team in which he shot 35% that series. U can also make an argument that Thibs was the unofficial head coach that team.

@@4392amtrak LeBron wasn't shooting 35% because he wasn't feeling well, he shit 35 cuz the defence was perfectly focused on him and his team was shite

@@thelosingimpossible That's a good point. That Celtics team was one of the greatest defensive teams of all time with KG, Perk, Tony Allen, Posey, etc.

He had prime KG, Pierce, Ray Allen and a young Prodigy in Rondo..What coaching did he actually have to do LMAO

@@sydguitar99 exactly lol if anything Doc limited them to just one championship

Giannis about to spend the rest of his prime experiencing choked leads

no its called kobe bryant 😂😂😂

​@@presidential3228 kobe lost the first meeting in 2008, kid 🫵🤡 Go finish your juice box

Screwed my ass. Lakers shot 32.5% in Game 7 and ya’ll still couldn’t finish them. Ya’ll held Kobe to 6/24 shooting and still lose. Ya’ll had a 13 point lead late in the game snd still lost.

​@@catchcan221yep if I recall right nobody could hit crap that game 7 and pau gasol was probably best player.

You're cruel

Your window will close before you know it. Get that man out of there.

Go win one in 2K because Doc is gonna Doc.

you got self claimed mvp overrated never won a 1st team nba Embiid + overrated trash coach doc gluck

Embiid will suffer the fate of Iverson I tell you. Wasted potential.

You’re not winning anything with Doc rivers 💀

3-2*

@@wicked521 the curse is lifted 😭😂

To be fair, Milwaukee got hit hard by the injury bug.

Let them get you into the playoffs and switch them out for somebody else.. 😂😂 to make sure it's no screw ups..

RU-vid algorithm is savage for recommending this after yet another game 7 loss 😂

So could Rudy Tomjanovich and Alex Hannum who I’d also have taken over Doc. Fine coaching career and not without his successes, but I would not call him one of the few best to ever do it.

I’ll never get over playing Montrez against jokic. I never seen a man get cooked like that. I’m not sure that one would ever go away

And now, just three weeks later, they are 3-7 under Doc and have fallen to the 3 seed while being just 1 game in the loss column away from the 5 seed.

Right on que

in pathetic fashion

Can you give an example of wtf your talking about

idk if youre joking or not, but pls be joking

I’d have a few ideas for the NFL but I’m not sure if it would fit the channel

@@dylandoesbasketball Maybe make a second channel Dylan does Football or something. Great channel