Sqqquuueeeeezzeeee the front brake, NEVER GRAB! Shut Up & Practice MotoJitsu.com FYI :) I only make videos about what I know how to do. I went to a school called "Wheelie University" many years ago but haven't practiced since....so no wheelie video from me.
I live in San Diego and was checking out the prices for Wheelie University. Sounds like a big investment. Do you remember it being worth it? I'm planning some track time this year along with some other fun stuff so I figured I would do the wheelie thing :).
@@RageQuitReUnited it was a fun course but I recommend taking Total Control Advanced Riding Clinic, SoCal Supermoto, and MotoVentures Dirt First level 2 first.
I think you should still do a wheelie video! A bunch of people look up to your content. I've seen a bunch of videos but they don't go into depth like your videos. Hoping you make one! Stay safe! 🤘🏿
@@MotoJitsu well that's sad to hear. Thought you might know how to since you did you attended wheelie school.. wish people in the mid west had some type of wheelie school..
I end up doing this in front of the house after emergency braking practice. Kids are mildly impressed, wife not so much. Thanks for keeping up the quality work!
This is a great video, especially for the purpose of emergency braking. Having watched hundreds/thousands of crash videos, so many of them occur because of poor braking technique, even cluelessness. It’s so sad and so predictable. I learned more haphazardly and then from aggressive braking on the track, but your simple exercise is outstanding. Well done. Every rider should do it. For the stoppie piece, you might want to mention ABS and traction control systems and their configuration, though stopping short of detail since each bike is different. Many upper end bikes, especially sport bikes, have configurable stoppie intervention (it will only allow a stoppie of configurable extent/height before intervening to stop it and bring it down). Such is the case with my S1000RR. You might want to tell people to turn the intervention down (but now completely off) before starting this exercise. With it at its (default) maximum, they generally don't allow you to get more than a couple of inches off the ground.
Thanks :) Many crashes happen because of lack of skill and confidence with the brakes...90% of the time it's the motorcyclist that is the striking vehicle...hits other cars, guardrails, etc. I didn't on purpose...no matter what bike I've ridden, I can do the same thing on it. I had my S1000R and was still able to in any mode with all the electronics on :)
Excellent presentation and understandable for anybody that has not done this before. I am an amateur pilot that had to get and maintain a license by proving emergency procedures to an instructor. This has to be done periodically to all pilots and more frequently for commercial pilots. Nobody wants to have an emergency, but preparing for one is the best way to survive one. Your recommendation to practice and learn this is well warranted and I plan to heed your advice when I make my next purchase, an ADV bike. ( Currently I’m an old Harley user, now without anything) I will subscribe and watch more of your videos now. Good job.
Perfect timing! Was planning on practicing this been watching different vids. Even tried searching if you had an old one. 😂 Thank you and keep up the vids brother! ✌🏿
Me too! My first time doing a stoppie was when practicing the braking blue belt drills. I knew lightly tapping the back break is how to get out of it, so no fear but it was a fun surprise the first time. Great video, all good tips!
LOL you've inspired me ! I gott'a master that now.... thank you ! the way I understand about the new bikes geometry is that you have to brake in a corner in order to get the rake and trail in the right position....the forks need to be compressed to corner real good... back in the 70's that wasn't so much the case or at least I never used my front brake in the corners ...only when it was absolutely necessary , but now the suspension is alot softer and the ability to have that perfect cornering motorcycle looks to be a matter of skill on the front brake .... I am bike-less at the moment and it's killing me ! but I do plan on getting a 2021 bike when my Ranch sells and sharpen my riding skills up once more... and any skill that helps you STOP faster is a good skill to have !
Welcome :) You don't have to do before a corner...all depends on your pace. Many times out in the twisties, I don't use the brakes at all because I'm going much slower.
We got that lockdown bro, bout to do muh cruit! Edit: though I still been riding I live in the country and who is at risk? Except me get fined or in NSW here risk jail
@@MeWrecks I think it's not about putting people at risk since you're riding alone, but instead not risking crashing the bike and going to the emergency room. But you do you, if there weren't cops around I think I'd go ride as well
Funny how this video popped up in my feed. I went by the local training range to watch the Can-Am three-wheel training because my wife is interested in getting a Ryker. Very large parking lot and there was a guy there practicing stoppies just same bike that you were on doing yours. So of course I hopped on my FJR 1300 and I couldn't get the back tire up off the ground LOL. But I got my emergency braking practice in for the day
Thanks bud. This is the first video that I found super relatable and logical with proper theory. Can you let me know the percentage of people who skipped to the practical part? I am having a really bad figure in my mind 😂 and they might face a hard time without going through the theory. Happy Riding 🤜🤛
I'd say that even with modern ABSes which provide multiple levels plus turning off this drill is even more important, IMHO equally or maybe even more that with bikes without it, because you should be familiar with both tech and non-tech aspects of your motorcycle although one might argue that without ABS you have no other options. Well yeah, exactly, you need to be aware of tools in your toolbelt. Btw, great video Greg as always.
Informative video. The beauty of the journey is that it gives benefits before you reached the goal. Being able to perform a good emergency stop can´t hurt. I got to the occassional stoppie with praticing emergency braking. As soon as we can ride again, I am going to try it. Currently we can only ride to go shopping or to work due to a lockdown. Parking lot practice is currently frowned upon (and probably fined) by LEOs
In one of your videos, you made a comment about using your front brake and if it had ABS, the street should not be the first place to experience the ABS kicking in. I thought, “Great idea.” And went out that afternoon and worked the brake until I activated ABS. Now, everything I practice, I try to engage it at least once.
Thanks man, I watched many of yours videos and I must say you are very very good and detailed teacher. Greetings from Bosnia and Herzegovina, I have one question and I would like to hear it from you. I am tall like 195cm and I would like to know which bikes are your recommendation for tall people? You can also point to a video if you already made one about that. I like all kind of bikes but maybe cruise and dirt bikes the most.
@@MotoJitsu they looks really pretty and comfortable, very nice lines, I`ll must tryout one of them from my friends. Only motorbike I had like 2 years was Yamaha Drag Star 600 the old one from `98, nice old motorbike but bad for practice (air cooled). Thank you a lot for quick respond. Safe ride good man.
Rear brake can actually help when you do an emergency stop. It stiffens up the bike and reduce the front fork compression which give you more stopping power before the rear tire leave the ground. Some bikes, like the S1000R, have linked brakes (except for in the Dynamic Pro mode for S1000R) that will do this for you.
The technique for emergency braking for the rear brake is start off with a little bit of pressure...like 10% then back off to 0%. My rear wheel is off the ground almost immediately...rear brake is almost irrelevant. My old S1000R didn't have linked...they were integrated and I was still doing stoppies in any mode with everything on.
Was watching another video where they were learning on trials and dirt bikes. They do more of a launch of the suspension at lower speed vs just having the front break 'pick you up' at faster speed.
This is a pretty good video. The part where you where demonstrating the stoppies reminded me of the Napoleon Dynamite scene when was taking his mountain bike off some sweet jumps. 🤣
I only make videos about what I know how to do. I went to a school called "Wheelie University" many years ago but haven't practiced since....so no wheelie videos for me. Yes they are fun...I had a blast in the course.
Good video Eddie. Will have something to practice next time on parking lot. Looking ahead while braking is very important. I felt last year because i was checking the 18 ft markings. :)
hey its the busa man, great videos keep up the good work and by the way you and your partner are great instructors, already signup for the 3 wheel riding course
Have you ever thought about doing a "how to wheelie" video? I mean I know they are dangerous, but I think you would learn them for the same reason you would learn how to stoppie. Firstly... let's be honest they are fun, but I also think they can teach you how to better control your bike (throttle and rear break). And it can also be useful if you are riding offroad and want to clear obstacles. Oh, did I mention they're fun? :)
I only make videos about what I know how to do. I went to a school called "Wheelie University" many years ago but haven't practiced since....so no wheelie videos for me. Yes they are fun...I had a blast in the course.
I practice this with every red light. I don't go for height, I go for control. However you learn your new skills it doesn't matter aslong as you got there without the need for A&E
Hey Eddie! Thanks for your amazing videos... Sorry for the noob question: My bike has ABS (it's a 2013 Yamaha FZ8N). Does ABS play any role in learning how to do stoppies? How does it affect practicing them (if at all)? Thanks in advance. I'm always glad for tips to improve and become a better rider.
@@MotoJitsu okay, thanks for the tip! i'll go out and see as soon as i'm allowed to leave my house again. :/ just kidding, mototrcycling is still allowed so far... ;) stay save everyone!
@@MotoJitsu had the same question. not sure about the drz but your other bikes for sure have abs so im guessing if you dial squeeze the front brakes you will maintain and in fact likely increase traction on front tyre with the extra weight and larger contact patch..abs would not kick in if surface is friendly and motion is linear right? youve made me read books lol.
Interesting, I’ve only done 1 stoppie, I know of. I didn’t intend to. Having emergency stopped. Fortunately I stopped, The rear wheel flying up in was a bit scary and embarrassing. Followed by a stall. I have practiced, emergency braking, recently, Speedo in Km so about 30ish, if I get down under 18, front brake squeal and ABS activates.
when you can do a stoppie it means you can use all the ALL the brake capabilities of your bike. if you can not then it means that your braking distance can be shorter
Holy fuuuuck! Did my first stoppie ever after watching the first part of this video! Thank you so much. Question: what fork compression would you recommend for this? I was thinking that more compression would absorb less rotational momentum but on the other hand less compression would Make your fork dive more and shorten the overall lever (wheel base) that needs to be rotated. Maybe I'm overthinking this...
I haven't stoppied yet, but I have found how light the rear gets under hard braking. Need to lighten my right foot a little now... ABS has been rather active.
Great vid. Says a lot about the fun and handling ability of a supermoto that after all those bikes you bought another DRZ. I put sticky street tires on my DR650 and spent quite a bit on upgrading front and rear suspension and now wondering if I should splurge on a set of wide 17" wheels for optimum road handling or if there's room for another Suzuki in the barn.
Thanks for the video! Now i have another thing to practice that will take sleep from my mother lol How would ABS affect stoppies? Wouldn't it help to start a stoppie by grabbing the break to 30 and then do progressive breaking?
MotoJitsu® will do. Doing stoppies like you said really made me comfortable with my brake pressure and how my bike is going to respond to it. Like you say, you won’t know until you experience and experiment.
MotoJitsu® Ha! It is now. There was a period after I dumped it in a corner where I was mostly anxious. But I was determined to get over it. Who knew that tons of practice was the key. Best thing ever
Great vid as per usual, is a stoppie basically a result of suspension failing? When i was reading about suspension setup I read that once your suspension bottoms out the load is transferred to the tyre which is pretty dangerous as theres no more braking that can be done without flipping it (but i guess that doesnt apply as we are doing this on purpose in this example when we choose to?) Therefore setting your suspension to bottom out sooner would lead to easier stoppies i guess?
The reason you can't do this on a cruiser is the position of the centre of mass (lower and further back). It's also harder to do if you have someone on the back (for a similar reason), easier if you're standing or move forward. The higher the centre of mass, the higher the inertial ("forward/up") moment around the front (breaking force x height), the further back the centre of mass, the higher the weight ("backward/down") moment (weight x horizontal distance behind the axle). The back wheel will rotate forward/up when the inertial moment exceeds the weight moment. Also note, that as the back wheel lifts off the ground, the inertial moment increases (centre of mass goes up) and the weight moment decreases (horizontal distance to front axle decreases), so that without changing brake force, the rate of acceleration increases (i.e. there is jerk).
@@MotoJitsu Yeah. You don't seem quite clear on why it's not possible on a cruiser. For instance you say "because of the power of the brakes", you list "ground clearence", "tires", etc which have nothing to do with it. Brakes don't need to be particularly strong. Braking is limited by friction. Maximum braking force is F = uN, where u is the coefficient of friction and N the normal force (on the flat that's just the total weight). The long wheelbase is only a factor due to shifting the centre of mass back. Two motorcycles with different wheel bases will behave similarly if their centre of mass is in the same position relative to the front contact point.
Also, weight (or rather mass) has nothing to do with it, because it falls out of both sides of the equation. Maximum braking force is umg and weight (force) is just mg. If you throw that into the inequality m will cancel out.
Amazing brother, I will try it out. 😜 I think you might have given me an idea. So I wanted to sell my Gxsr750R for a while now. Like 3 years. It’s a 2015 in blue. But my wife said, “ no! cuz you’ll buy another one.” For some reason the #number always comes up though. 💃🏼 “You’ve sold the bikes 4 times already🤦🏽♂️. My reply to her is, “ sweetheart, I grew out them. But now, with the boys getting older. I want to be around and see them get married, you know, have their own family. She still says, “!! don’t sell it, I know you💃🏼💃🏼💃🏼.” Eddy, you’re being persistent in this video. I’m hearing, “go do stoppees, it’s fun.” Hearing that from you brother, makes me realize there might be a future divorce with the Gxsr and me. I can already see her🏍 on the ground like, “you a$$#0le… Why did you drop me🏍?🥺. Huh🏍… I’ve treated you so nice over the years🏍. Yes that is 🤔True. 🤔 but that’s because I cared for you🏍😏, gave you fresh oil, always on time. spred lube over your chain. Uh huh😏. Shower you 🏍even in the public. 😆 With neighbours drulling to see a side fairing come off. But my respect is always top notch. The bike cannot question my commitment 😎. I don’t even do that to my wife💃🏼😜. Eddy, in all honesty, I think I might crash. But it does sound exiting…… Man!!!! 80% of me wants to take your advice in this video. It would be cool showing up to work like I do, and parking the bike in the front entrance with a stoppee. But most importantly, all joking aside. Being able to come to a complete stop under control, under any circumstance. Would be ideal. Someone ask me today, Luis. How long have you been riding. I replied,” over 12 years now.” Dude brushed me off and left as I was telling him. I thought it was weird. 🤔 A friend we knew, young kid. Ended up behind a transit bus doing a left turn. Dead on the spot. I think he was 24 years old. Another in my wife’s country. Got cut off by a utility truck, at the beginning of this year, the car had a flat bed. 3 riders seriouly injure, my wife’s cousin, dead on the spot. True stories. All within a year apart. Sometimes I wonder if that’s a sign for me to stop riding. But I was not there holding their throttle when this happen. Making those decision, right lane position, speed and what have you, did the other riders have any influence on the outcome. May God give me the discernment to make that decision one day. To truly let go riding a motorcycle. Again, thank you so much for your valuable videos. They’re very educational , I like the visuals. Very nice. Picasso would be proud. May God and Mary bless us all.
I think it could be nice to have some video about emergency braking downhill with higher speeds that are around 50-60mph. Happened to me from nowhere that a old man stops in the middle of a tight road and with another car from the other side. (Probably he thought is better to stop in order the other person to pass) However I managed to stop in time but both times rear tire was slipping, do you think that’s good or bad when stopping in this situation?
Going go try this on my VFR now that I put braided hoses on (is a 98' year). Not sure if the linked brakes are a problem? What about ABS and stoppy I think that would cause problems?
@@MotoJitsu Didn’t expect a reaction at all And this fast? You must be a great rider 4:57 I’m here Have fun reading 😂 At work .. nighttime I’ve been ‘mastering’ wheelies lately and it goes quite well, but still need to work on ‘rear brake control’ while doing a wheelie I am not comfortable even trying a stoppie before proper tutorials Not sure it’s ‘my thing’ But yours is looking promising So maybe soon when my friend turns 24 we will practice together
With a car/truck, if the vehicle gets out of line on a skid we steer into the direction of travel. Any pointers what to do if the back end starts to come around? Just keep pointing steering forward, release the front brake or anything else?
Just today i did an emergency brake, because a friend of mine scared the shit out of me, by crossing the road. I tried to stoppie a few times but i am not brave enough to go a 100 percent to the front brake.
If the rear tire is off the ground, why would you need the rear brake? It's all about the front. FYI: Have you heard about my other RU-vid channel? It's a podcast where I interview interesting people...it's called MyIgnorance. Check it out :) ru-vid.com/show-UCVJeRk29mNO-YRuvOJ73klQ
@@MotoJitsu "The rear brake has nothing to do with stoppies" as in stoppie is a front brake only technique and if I applied rear brake the tire would not go up off the ground or whether I apply the rear brake or not doesn't make any difference?
I assume the answer is no, but does ABS change any of this as far as technique goes? Brakes shouldnt be locking up during this anyway, so idk why it would, just curious.
I mean, with ABS, for beginners and 99% of folks it might just be safer to brake 100% and thus not leave any breaking power on the table. That might save a life
I was trying to do exactly this in my BRC but the instructor kept asking me to try to not nose dive the front end, so I practiced his way because I was afraid to admit I was trying to stoppie
