No hate on the Miata guys. I love the bloody thing. But the video has nothing to do with a track, touge, or 'corners' of any kind. Key word: "straightaway" 🚶🏻🚶🏻
@@jt9300 the “straightaway” i was referring to was about an 1/8 mile long at the beginning of the video. look up redwood road near the Chabot Staging area and tell me how straight the rest of it looks 😅. right after that scene i came up on the miata cruising who booked it when he saw me and i tried to keep up, but was not confident taking corners as fast as dude was
To all the learner drivers about to attempt this, make sure you know what revs/speed are suitable for downshifting 2 down. If you’re going fast enough in 4th and immediately shift down into 2nd, you are going to lose your beloved Corolla
Ive almost gone into 2nd on the freeway instead of 4th, thankfully ive been driving my car for a long time so i knew when the rpm started going over 3k something was wrong and clutched in
Actually it's better, lets say you got a 1.9L diesel, your maximum output torque is at 2500-3300 and you drive in 4rd gear, at speed of 80 km/h if you downshift to 3rd gear you get high rpm high torque, but downshifting to 2rd gear is kinda bad, you are limited on how much speed you have, plus rpm ar at maximum 4000 and no longer have the power.
@@cautarepvp2079 in this video specifically he unnecessarily goes through two gears to get from 4th to 2nd. There is no reason to blip twice and shift twice. 3rd gear was 100% redundant Going from 4th to 2nd in this case is not KINDA BAD whatsoever as long as you rev match properly
Well that's why if your rpm's are too high you don't switch down to second you just go to 3rd. This has nothing to do with down shifting twice just to get to 2nd just drop it straight to second. You just gotta know how to drive it's extremely simple. You would not down shift twice on a dirt bike would you 😂. Just because 3rd is your hardest pulling gear don't mean it's going to pull harder then 2nd gear at lower speeds. @@cautarepvp2079
I had 2 friends in high school who blew up their parents cars doing neutral drops in automatic vehicles. A minivan and a Nissan maxima. Complelty destroyed the transmissions in both of them.
Genuinely curious of the important rev matching in a car. I drive a truck, and rev matching is required on a downshift or else it just simply won't go into gear. Cars have synchronizers so I don't see the purpose.
@@Ryan_Carder car is same as the truck, gotta rev match to downshift, or else you get the jankiest shift of your life, you whole car feels like it just got hit in the front for a sec
@@Ryan_Carder synchros only help to match input speed to output speed, but when the engine is disconnected (i.e. clutch plate pushed away), the synchro has no idea what speed the engine is at, it's only syncing *it's* side of the car (gears, clutch, wheels, etc. Put simply). A rev match is then you matching the engine speed to the wheel speed, stopping your car from lurching and possibly absolutely destroying your power train.
I always find it amusing when people talk about double clutching. Just go from 4 to 2 and rev match. Your car is designed to be able to do that. And you won’t mess up a slower and more complicated double shift. Just know your car, don’t just slam it in 2nd
you’ll put some wear on your synchros but yeah you’re right. double clutching (if done right) will put less wear on your transmission. although if you’re bad at it it will be worse than skipping a gear
If you do this often and want to save wear on your synchros, double clutch and skip a gear. That tends to feel smoother for passengers as well. Regardless, there's no need for a double shift in a non-sequential gearbox and double clutching is not required.
@@_zedf656 how is what this guy did easier than just sticking it in 2nd and flooring it? Honestly sometimes I think you Americans treat manual boxes like dark arts
In the UK in driving lessons we are taught in our driving lessons to skip gears because overall you get less wear and tear than going thru the gears in order. Most cars in the UK are manuals and our lessons and tests are quite comprehensive.
@@sabagamer3052 they use to teach that yes, now they are less picky about it as long you maintain good control and observation, don't cross over your arms or do something deemed dangerous.
@@Nameschino “more sensitive pedals” that is not a thing. what is a thing is changing your clutches biting point, which could make it appears as more “sensitive”.
Right? The lack of actual driving knowledge (especially for manual gearboxes) hear is abysmal. Nice to see some finds this so obvious! Then again, Americans don't use a gearstick...
@@dippyass4u i think it really depends on the car. older cars like mine (1998 mazda 323) will jerk even if u rev it high. maybe it has something to do with the old components or im just doing it wrong lol
I had experience and an understanding on manual transmissions before I got my first bike so, I didn’t really freak when I downshifted but. One thing I never experienced before happened. I downshifted one too many times and it caused my back tire to spin slower than the speed I was traveling and it caused my back tire to break traction. It was scary but I’ve done this twice now
@@trappizze22 simple cheap solution mate, car guys talk about rev matching but stuff that term as confusing. So you need to 'blip' throttle on downshift.... DO NOT DOWN SHIFT WITHOUT CLUTCH. It can be a pain to learn to hold front brake and use same hand to blip throttle bit guarantee it works. Try slowly at first.
@@-The_Phantom iv heard it’s bad for the transmission, I learnt to double clutch and have never had problems but I guess it’s alright going straight from 5 to 3 if you rev match
Meanwhile, me in electric car: *STEPS ON ACCELERATION HARDER* Edit: alright so everyone complain that it shouldn't be called gas cause it was an electric car so i change it to Acceleration.
I drop from 5th to 2nd seemlessly. It's all about getting very familiar with your speed to rpm per gear ratio, and you'll learn to downshift from any gear to any other gear with practice
Bro thinkin he's driving a semi with the double clutching, just learn your rpm's and know what hear you want, clutch in rev to the rpm you know the hear needs for the speed you are going release clutch and hammer down
@@Golden31Eagle He wasn't double clutching, he was downshifting twice with rev matching (I prefer to heel toe, though). I've also driven commercial vehicles before and have a CDL, and in the trucking world, the experienced prefer floating gears; it's easier on the clutch leg. Now if he wasn't downshifting twice, you could assume he was double clutching.
I've been driving manuals for ever, i would just reg match from 4th to 2nd. Wich makes me curious, is that wrong? Bad for my car? Does that give me less power?
If it’s a newer car with synchros you’d be fine skipping gears. I do it all the time. Synchros are made to mesh the different speeds smoothly and quickly. Obviously know what speed you’re going, because 4th to 2nd sounds scary radical due to over revving possibilities. But it would in a performance mood get you more power, if for example your car made peak hp @6600rpm, and you are in 4th gear @1900rpm, downshift to 2nd @4,000rpm, you’d get a better start and jump. Basically the only time you’d drop a gear to disappear if you’re on a highway and randomly wanna haul, or if u need to pass a truck or something of the sorts. Depends if your car has peak power higher in the rpm range, what speed you are going to determine which gears to be in, and whether your trans is synchro or not
Okay so here is a breakdown for ya. He's in 4th Gear and he wants to go to second gear. Let's say for this breakdown his rpm is at 2000 in 4th Gear, 3000 at 3rd and 4000 rpm in second gear. He presses the clutch and uses the gas to increase the rpm to 3000. He then releases the clutch. Now he's in 3rd at 3000 rpm Now he presses the clutch again with a small amount of gas to increase rpm to 4000 and then releasing the clutch. Now he's in second at 4000rpm. The reasoning behind rev matching is to lower the stress on the springs on the clutch when changing gears. if you dont rev match you will have the engine flywheel and the trans clutch spinning at different speeds, when you release the clutch the springs will absorb the forces when the clutch and flywheel collide. if you hard drop the clutch a lot it can not only damage those springs but also the 2 wheels at the same time. conclusion, rev matching if when you rev up the engine to the necessary rpm during downshifts that matches the rpm for the gear you want to shift to at your current speed. im not a car expret but i hope you understand
@@firewhisperer oh wow thanks! I’ma go ahead and practice this. Every time I try to downshift either by rev matching or even with the heel toe method I keep messing up
@@Anxi3ty_ Don't worry about it, just takes practice and time, and then you'll be able to rev match just fine. I personally think a double shift is unnecessary if you're wanting to drop a gear and take off. Instead, skip a gear. Let's say you're in 4th gear at 2000 RPM. 3rd and 2nd gear need to be rev matched at 3000 and 4000 RPM, respectively. Instead of a double shift, rev straight to 4000 and get her in 2nd gear. 4th - > 2nd. You can also double clutch in this scenario, which I prefer to do, but it's also not necessary and adds another step where mistakes can be made. So, just practice your rev matching and don't be afraid to skip gears. Just make sure if you do skip that the low gear your shifting too won't be above your engine's redline. Practice the movements slowly so you can focus on accuracy and getting your muscle memory down. When you feel pretty comfortable, start speeding it up, incrementally increasing how quickly and smoothly you can do it until it's second nature. After this, if you wanna throw in a double clutch or a double shift for fun, then do it! Good luck my friend!
It depends on the situation tbh, let’s say your driving at a speed that requires 4th gear so like anywhere between 30-45mph if you put your foot down the car will take a Likkle while to speed up however if you drop to a lower gear and then plant your foot on the accelerator you’ll always go faster because Dropping a gear increases the engine revs, which also increases power to the wheels and gives a burst of speed.
You wouldn’t be downshifting two gears if you’re in the mid to higher rpm range. But if you’re at cruise rpm, slap it down into what ever gear puts you in the power band.
I’m new to manual cars, google says that the higher the gear the faster you go, so how does downshifting (changing to a lower gear) make you go faster?
Not double clutching like you should. You’re lucky that 100 shot of nitrous didn’t blow the welds on the intake. Almost had me? You never had me, you never had your carrr
So, in a drag race from a dig like in the beginning clip..., and we are both in 4th and I'm losing. I should just down shift 2 gears to go faster? Okay I get it! Edit: humm..Humm... now I need a new motor AND transmission! Can you respond to my DMs? I feel you should help pay for the damages
Just put the gear in neutral when braking and slowing down, depending on the speed when you need to accelerate shift the gear into whatever number your speed is.
I think it’s funny that I can drop no gears and go to 70 from 50 in about seven seconds. No I don’t have an electric car. I’m talking about a 22 year old Mercedes.
Bro turn to Jesus man I be telling y’all he loves u sm man he gave himself up for us and our sins, he paid the fine that we deserved because we broke the law (Ten commandments ) ““For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” John 3:16) ““
The double downshift is really dependent on your gearing. Most cars if you are cruising in the gear before your overdrive, you won’t have enough rpm in the limiter to drop 2 gears.
The only place you are going to get a legitimate class on manual Rev matching is in a class A truck driving school, or a professional racing school. Both take a lot of money so this skill isn't something that people who know how to do it readily like to teach for free. Good job on you man.
Bro what the duck is this just clutch once throttle longer and pop it into 2nd straight away saving time effort and gaining the same speed quicker🤦🏼💁🏼♂️
the thing is... double clutching is recommended but isnt strictly needed, if you watn to bang your gear double clutchiong should be done to avoid burning up your syncros inside the gearbox, but also you dont need to shift from 4th into 3rd and than into 2nd, if you know your car well you can from 4th gear, clutch in, put in neutral and release clutch, rev up to around where 2nd gear would be (hint: way more rpm) and than clutch in again and bang the 2nd gear in, if you did it well the gear should just pop in really easily because both gearwheels should be about equal speed (thus avoiding accesive syncro wear) and therefore go in really easily and than just release the clutch with the high rpm and just floor it and shift like you usually would. some people also recoomend couble clutching when shifting up 1 gear but thats not really neccessary because thats literally how every normal person driving a manual car drives, therefore they were designed for that, its just the downshifting part which wears out alot of parts when you dont revmatch (mainly clutch and syncros) its like on a bike where u just peddal slowly but are relatively fast and than downshifting and needing to first take a few seconds to speed up your legs to so that you can accelarate faster when you shift down, just that its the engine doing that motion and the clutch taking the difference of speed and converting it into wear and heat. i realized that this comment is alot of technical bla bla but basically when downshifting more than one gear try to revmatch xd source: experience from driving a miata... and yes i know and yes its not a joke, just look at my channel and the videos ive posted xD
Engines have full power at some RPM , for example ym car has all power at 3000 RPM , so , eachtime when u want to change the gear and disapear , make sure you will be most of the time in that RPM
Uhhh why not just skip 3rd and go straight to 2nd then rev match appropriately. I just do that than the whole double clutch thing which I never got why you'd need to go but what do I know I'm just some guy on youtube
What the heck are you doing that's a synchronized transmission no need for all that BS, rev matching is for unsynchronized transmissions drive a big truck you'll experience this as a necessity
Stop pressing the clutch for no reason..you need to press the clutch ONLY WHEN TAKING OFF (LAUNCHING) AND TO CHANGE GEARS...all that other shit is just heating up your clutch and cause unnecessary wear..the longer you have your clutch pedal pressed in,the hotter your clutch will get...the higher you Rev your engine with the clutch compressed,the quicker you will overheat the shit out of your pressure plate..the clutch in my corolla has 196k on it and does not slip,1 day of driving with your habits and my clutch would be TOAST...learn how to drive and you will smoke miatas,there slow af LOL
i think that its good i am german and not completly understanding the last part, cause i just past manual driving test, and would break my car trying this. luckily i didnt got all
Why even hit 3rd? Rev mat directly to 2nd? Also I've never driven a gtr, but when I was younger civic si, Acura type r, mitsu 3kgt, e36m3, e46m3, e39m5, etc all manual and na vs turbo...but the extra shift? Idk maybe I've been doing it wrong?
