After a lot of requests I've put together a fairly detailed video of how I dump a framed dump trailer. Hopefully some people can take some ideas from this and use it for themselves (New and Old). Thanks for watching!
Also when you start to lift the bed, if the cylinder leans to one side it will let you know if you’re not level and give you the opportunity to lower the bed back and reposition before you get too high and flip
I'm thankful for guys like him who takes time out of his day to explain how to do his job and in as much detail as possible. Seems like a great guy. I'm thinking of getting into the dump trailer sect of trucking so this helps. I've done dump truck, walking floor and Tipper trailers as well as a little step deck, flat bed, curtainside and container while the majority of my career was Reefer and dry van. So even tho this is close to dump truck it's still completely different and to me much more complex and dangerous so yeah guys like him are a big help.
Your videos are very good. Thank you I enjoy them. The way you drive, explain what you’re doing, attention to detail, etc. you go the extra mile to explain what it takes to do it right like a professional. Reminds me of me. Lol. All kidding aside you are really doing a great service to the rookies out there. I have been driving for 25yrs. And hauled everything from oversized to coils, frameless dump etc. I was very fortunate to have been taught by grandpa,dad, at a very young age. The problem today I think is all the old school guys are dead or retired so the newer generation is really missing out. Unless they are fortunate enough to run across guys like you or me that are willing and able to pass it on and take pride and love what they do. Ain’t nothing like going down the highway in a Legacy Class Peterbilt with a 18speed and a hot rod KT Cummings roaring. They call me ( Topshelf) I’ll catch ya on the flip 10/4.
I watched your video yesterday because i was using a dump trailer for the first time today… Thanks to you and your tips, everything went well today!! Thx bud! 👌🏻🤘🏻
I grew up around dump trucks and dump trailers and drove them both for over 30 years and you did a great job with this one. The one thing that I do differently is put air back in the truck suspension so that keeps the truck from spinning like what happened to you when you pulled up and the other thing is with a frameless trailer I only used the hand brake because if you needed to move fast you can jam it in gear and release the brakes faster with the hand valve. Dumping a frameless in landfills for years and had many situations where it sank on one side and just being able to quickly pull up 5 feet made the difference between a good dump or a long bad day. You do a great job taking care of Idlewild's equipment Wes and it shows that you take pride in your work. A lot slobs would just run down the road and sling that material out of the wheels at other vehicles.
Thanks for watching. Great advice on the trolly brake. I think it actually applies more pressure too. I’ve had frameless roll forward when the trailer brakes were set but wouldn’t roll with the trolly set. Plus like you mentioned it’s much quicker in case you need to act fast. Thanks for the comment and advice.
One thing about frameless or quarter frame you can push yourself out if stuck, up the box to you, apply trailer brake and down your trailer while helping in low gear, also good to turn around on a barge with your box up, watch your gate though!
Indeed, this was one of the "BEST" how to videos on dumping a frameless end dump setup I've seen on here! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾GREAT video Sir and keep being SAFE out there.🙏🙂👌🏾👍🏾💪🏾
My son needs to watch this. He's too "smart" to listen to my warnings about these end-dumps laying over while dumping. The issue most prevalent for us is wind - but wet manure and compost can also freeze in large clumps, or to the trailer sides if left loaded overnight during sub-zero weather. In this part of TX there can be days and days of high winds that hamper dumping. My husband had 30+ yrs experience hauling everything from swinging meat, grain, live cattle to cucumbers, but he never, ever took that end-dump trailer for granted, especially unloading in farm fields where the surface terrain can be impossible to read.
Great Refresher For Me, Wes! Did Some Part- Time Work Hauling Spent Grain To Central NY Farms On A Frameless Dump About 15 Years Ago Out Of Budweiser, On The Weekends.. At The Same Time, I Also Worked Fulltime Regional With A 48 Ft Dry Van, Both Jobs Out Of B'ville. I'm Retired Since Last Sept, Living In Syracuse But Heading To Tennessee Soon Hoping To Get Some Part Time/Temporary Work To Supplement My Soc Sec. Thanks Again, Happy Trails...
I think that’s actually the most effective way and I wish I could still do it that way. Growing up old motor oil was good for everything LoL. No days they’d throw away the key.
Job well done Wes. Covered and explained everything. One thing that I would add is taking care of the equipment so that way everything goes accordingly. You and the company you work for, you do that very well taken care of your truck and trailer.
Thanks for watching. Yea that’s a great point about taking care of equipment. A truck/trailer that isn’t taken care of can be a dangerous thing. Thanks for the advice.
Thank you. I just bought a dump trailer to pull with my cord super duty, so this video wasn’t exactly what I was looking for but was very informative and I’m sure some stuff is transferable to a “little” trailer like mine. Thanks again.
You are awesome. Forming a repetitive habit will always keep you and the truck safe. Trucking is a hard and dangerous job if you rush the safety steps.
Very informative. I used a scissor-dump trailer for 2 years and it was a very different type of trailer to dump with. I had it actually bounce on me twice, going from tire to tire, back and forth and then finally settling down, very scary but never tipped it over. Wish I had someone like you to give me this kind of advice you just did. Thank you.
You’re welcome. Yea the frameless trailers can be a little tippier for sure. Gotta be a little more careful with them but you never flopped it over so you did good.
Sir I’m I appreciate you advice you are not only a profesional you are also a great person and where your knowledge with others thank you so much for being so good person ❤
Hi Wes, I enjoy your videos very much, you do a great job, I used to drive myself for 25 years but got hurt and can't drive anymore and it takes me back, I miss driving a truck and it's nice to be sitting behind the wheel with you, keep up the great work and I'll keep on watching
Sorry to hear you got hurt. I can imagine how bad it sucks not being able to drive anymore. It’s in our blood so I know it’s not easy for you to not be able to do it. I’m glad you can ride along with me and others on RU-vid. Hearing you say that makes me want to do these videos even more. Thank you for you comment. God bless.
When I was running dump all over the country before I went back to hauling wood I used diesel to keep the load from sticking I also carried 4x4 and 2x4 to get the trailer level in real bad spots
@@Wgrippin it works in a pinch for sure anything bigger than 2x6 seems to split in half but the wider boards stay on top better in soft spots i used to go to all the big spots around ny for end dump....did you guys finish the job out by fort drum
@@Wgrippin in your other video with the sandwich and coffee talk, ya had me rolling with the end. Its great to see im not the only odd one rolling lol.
Most old school dump trailers I seen have them exhaust pipe for the under belly of the trailer. That be good for winter time keep the Material not able to stick to the bed of the dump body. Your tips and safety really helps for those that are starting out as dump truck drive for trailer or straight truck dump box. I would take it this apply for the straight dump trucks as well with the box being up in the air and airbags have to be dumped before doing anything. Wes jogging is a good work out every now and than as well need to stretch a little since you be sitting around.
@@Wgrippin Not the new trailers. But the old trailers that you have to add tube that connects to the trailer during winter time. You don't want to get a gut. XD
Good content Wes, safety first, but I've been dumping frameless for 30 years, prefer Western 1/4 frame now days so I can pave, one trick I do, if your box is going up crooked? I steer under till the scope becomes straight, works for me, never lost one yet!
Great advice. I actually wanted to mention in the video about something like this (granted a little different) but I wanted to keep it kind of simple. Sometimes if I’m uneven I’ll turn the truck a little bit at an angle from the trailer. It’s harder to flip the fifth wheel when the trailer is sitting on it on an angle.
Yeah got a 35' MAC tri frame dump trailer and we have a black liner in the bed and it does really well. We haul topsoil and compost and shingles when going to landfill. Only thing i do is drop my bags and make sure im level. Great video brother. Another thing is my tarp cable i have to unhook before i dump, if not it will rip the cable out..
Thank you. Yea the story’s I’ve heard from before liners were horror story’s LoL. We used to bring shingles out to somewhere in NH I think or maybe MA? I can’t remember. Ring a bell?
@@Wgrippin man this video is great and you covered everything. You nailed everything I do when i dump. I had to learn the hard way with the tarp cable. Riped that joker out.. Just subscribe too.. I drive a KW T800 heavy haul daycab its my profile pic. And love it.. Keep the rubber side down..
@@jamieg.3829 thank you for subscribing. Glad you enjoyed. It’s hard to find a decent how to dump video when I started so thought now that I knew what I was doing (somewhat) I should put one up.
Great video! One thing I would add to this is, which I’m sure you do with out thinking, everytime you get out of that truck and walk around, check and look at all your lights, tires and listen for air leaks. A flat tire can change the way that bed goes up and shift it one way or the other. With the auto inflators it might not be so obvious, but it’s a good habit to get into. Thanks for the videos!
That’s actually something I totally forgot. Tire pressure (or a flat) actually does have a huge effect on how the body will go up. Great catch. Thank you!
I like how he explains as much as he can think of. It's a fee things I wish he expounded on but as a trucker myself I can see how some things are skipped or not explained since it's so much he has to think of to explain. Especially when a guy just knows his job, it's hard to explain sometimes because ya don't talk about it ya just do it. I wanted h to explain more on what to do if the load comes out on one side but not the other side or if it comes out the back and not the front???
Thank you for taking the time to detail this process. My 2 questions are: does anyone make a vibrating feature that would help loosen stuck materials? If your load is stuck is it ok to lower the dump half way and then reverse your truck and hit the brakes? Not going super fast or super far.
#1 and the most important step after releasing the gate, DUMP your air bags. Do not raise that bed up with air bags inflated. You will be on your side in a heartbeat. Also the loaders usually tap the blade or bucket on the ground where they want the product.
Mac is by far better for a frameless due to the fact that it has shear pins for when you lay it over ive seen way to many trucks go over with the trailer when pulling a east
@@Wgrippin Mac is where its at down home in KY we used to pull 36x102x96 deep right before they made us cut back to 126,000 ole boy i was driving for had just bought me a 38x102x96 with the 3 down reyco with the lift axle on front and rear and aluminum buds wheels and mud flaps dragging the ground on the ass of it all the way across we normally hauled 70 to 75 ton a trip prolly 65 to 68 ton if it was clean coal
You are pretty good at explaining and holding a camera one handed. However from a training perspective you could really benefit from a camera person and a drone. Overlay graphics would be great too. Dating a video is a good idea as well. Thank you for the effort you put into this. You need to get sponsor's to make it profitable.
Thank you. I’m working on some of those things as we speak. I can’t bring a camera person with me at work all the time but for the home stuff I’m gonna try that. I think that alone would be a huge benefit.
I’m the same way when I’m runnng an RGN, I appreciate the help but I have a ritual and If I stray I forget something and it’s usually forgetting to unhook air and electrical lines
As a rookie way back in the early “70’s” I drove a tri axle dump, after dumping a load and while going forward I caught some overhead wires and pulled them down right in front of the boss. Not my best day!
Make sure to hit the air dump and not the fifth wheel slide unlock, I've done that one before because the buttons were right beside each other. I had to change my pants when I pulled up and the fifth wheel slams to the back. Luckily everything stayed upright
Like you said everyone does it different and bout the only thing I do different is I don't never set my brakes I dump by holding down the hand brake that way if I need to get out from nunder it quick I can lol
Have you ever seen the fail safe.? if you're out of level there's an over ride. It has a plumb Bob and if your box goes of center it over rides and brings the box back down.
HEY MAN!!!! I just found this video and I live in chicago and I want a job like this but I cannot find a job I don’t even know if I have the correct term when I search for the job 😅 “dump end trailer jobs” look I hope there is some information or advice you can give me to land a job like yours and btw I just got my CDL
First thing I do is make sure it’s level put the pto in and put the lever in the up position and shoot er straight up but I do drive a spring suspension truck and not a fancy air ride unit Lol I tell you what though when it gets real cold and the load freezes on one side of the wagon it’ll sure make the ol butt pinch a hole in the seat sometimes 🤣 You done a hell of a job explaining it for somebody that has no experience with a dump wagon doing good work with the videos and I’m just a little jealous of the KW. Don’t get me wrong I like my ol truck but it doesn’t look anything like that show truck
@@Wgrippin appreciate you making videos again and seriously if I’d never ran an end dump before and had no idea what to do you really explained it very well. My truck and trailer both are spring ride so I don’t really gotta worry about the air bags I’ve got a triaxle MAC dump trailer now with the single leaf Rayco suspension under it and all my controls are in the cab I can raise my front and rear axles leaving the middle axle down and my tailgate just opens on the bottom it’s not the barndoor style I’d still like to drive a big show truck like that mine is definitely just a work truck and a few cowboys drove it before I did and it’s taking me a lot of time to get it lined back out but it’ll get there
@@Wgrippin it swivels pretty easy with it up it makes it real good for when you’re in a tight pit getting it maneuvered around to back under the loader
@@joshsingleton8312 I believe that. I like that idea. If it didn’t make things so heavy I think all 4 of my axles should raise. Down in Manhattan I could leave just the front one down and shorten the trailer right up.
Two mistakes always check your tires a low tire will bring you over I know from my own experience, tell Randy the length of the truck plus ten feet you when dumping never know when something will go wrong. Good job. NOW BACK TO WORK.
I hated hauling gypsum out of the power plants that shit would always freeze/stick in the winter even with a great liner. Talk about a long day of shoveling and cleaning that trailer out then go haul crushed glass/ ore/ soybeans etc I hauled it all in that trailer
@@Wgrippin yes gypsum is not problem In summer months but winter I hated it. But hey when slow you’ll haul anything to stay busy. But I went back to tank yanking life hope one day see you up there on the thruway or on 87. Peace a chicken grease keep the rubber down and the shiny side up 🤘
Do some of these trailers have vibrators on them? I'd think that few short bursts could help product slough off? The railroad uses portable pneumatic vibrators for hopper bottom cars.
