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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 2 года назад
The ultimate introduction to the εδ definition ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DdtEQk_DHQs.html
@serenitymayfair623
@serenitymayfair623 2 года назад
This taught me delta epsilon proofs better in 15 minutes than anyone else ever could in 10 hours of lectures
@richerram1
@richerram1 2 года назад
Same here. Although I get the aversion to "easy step by step formulas" of some teachers I think some things are better taught with some sort of "fixed procedure" until you start getting the handle of it... great lesson.
@Redeemed_Daughter
@Redeemed_Daughter 2 года назад
Tell me about it. I've been struggling for so long😅😅
@shivrajpatil1770
@shivrajpatil1770 2 года назад
You mean 8 minutes and 27 seconds.
@kayceestudios6234
@kayceestudios6234 Год назад
@@Redeemed_Daughter yeah,I learnt the thing in just an 8 minutes video just imagine after wasting hours streaming useless videos that won't even explain what they are doing and why they are doing it
@Denis-vj2hz
@Denis-vj2hz 3 года назад
I'm a simple man. If π≈3 and e≈3 then π≈e. Done ✅
@pyyrr
@pyyrr 3 года назад
Hey look, it's an engineer!!
@El_Dr_Tacco
@El_Dr_Tacco 3 года назад
Ha ha ha true but it'works, that's why you got an iphone in your hands.
@BiscuitZombies
@BiscuitZombies 3 года назад
By pseudo-transitivity.
@akshatvats7992
@akshatvats7992 3 года назад
If it's close enough, it's good enough
@chill4r585
@chill4r585 3 месяца назад
does anyone know why in the beginning we have to say "Given epsilon > 0" but not "delta > 0". Why cant we just "0 < |f(x)-L| < epsilon" just like delta?
@martinpena7949
@martinpena7949 3 года назад
*In the one hour exam* "Oh I'm not sure about this limit, let me prove it"
@va-y-dit7843
@va-y-dit7843 3 года назад
finding the limit is easier than proving it
@valsnemakonde6936
@valsnemakonde6936 3 года назад
LOL
@osuh4947
@osuh4947 2 года назад
Wow, this really is the single greatest video about Epsilon-Delta proofs. I have never seen some one explain this as detailed and well as this guy.
@schezum
@schezum 2 года назад
I agree. This is the only video that enlightened me with this shit.
@divishthamalik309
@divishthamalik309 3 года назад
I have followed you through my high school and now I am still relying on your videos in my first year of engineering you have amazing content keep up the good work.Thanks a lot Sir.
@tzonic8655
@tzonic8655 3 года назад
I really had a hard time with epsilon-delta in my first semester in engineering but it turns out it's just matter of practice(for linear and 2nd degree polynomials 😅). It would be great if BPRP could show us geometrically the epsilon Delta
@kennethgibson288
@kennethgibson288 3 года назад
This brings back so many memories!
@SergeantTeabag
@SergeantTeabag 2 года назад
Extremely concise, thoughtful, and thorough explanation of how to use the epsilon-delta definition effectively and smoothly. This was so much more help than the book I'm reading through for Calculus. Thank you so much! This is a life-saver for college-level Calculus.
@hybmnzz2658
@hybmnzz2658 3 года назад
For the second last line in the last problem you should not write = 8 * epsilon/8 but instead
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 3 года назад
Yes, I think you are correct. Thanks. Let me pin this comment so that others can see it. Thank you.
@daray21
@daray21 3 года назад
thank you filthy frank
@patriciaelenabarrosoberroc8032
@patriciaelenabarrosoberroc8032 3 года назад
Yes
@Cannongabang
@Cannongabang 3 года назад
But you might also set ε < 8 so you are sure that what BPRP wrote is clear. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Also this is a joke, but still this would be without loss of generality (the statement for limits works ∀ε>0 if and only if it works ∀ε/ 0
@hybmnzz2658
@hybmnzz2658 3 года назад
@@Cannongabang yeah its a very tiny tweak. The full power of the epsilon delta definition is when epsilon is small anyway.
@einsteingonzalez4336
@einsteingonzalez4336 3 года назад
"GPA saver"... More like career saver. It's necessary.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 3 года назад
Definitely!
@benextinction__144
@benextinction__144 3 года назад
I thought you were me for a second and I was going loopy watching videos I'd already seen. Never seen anyone else with a map of CMB radiation as a profile pic. :)
@mohamedibrahim1023
@mohamedibrahim1023 3 года назад
Best professor of all time♥️🔝
@flyingcola7616
@flyingcola7616 3 года назад
I've never seen a simpler walkthrough for this! Thank you so much! Calc AB final is coming up in a couple of days
@mikevaldez7684
@mikevaldez7684 Год назад
Hopefully you failed 🤣🙋🙏
@user-lt5wt9sv4j
@user-lt5wt9sv4j 7 месяцев назад
this might be the most useful video i've ever seen. somehow managed to gaslight me into thinking it was easy and simple and then it really became easy and simple thank you you are a magician
@Rachel-tu8pq
@Rachel-tu8pq 2 года назад
exactly what I needed to help me in calc. love the way you can explain this dreaded topic so simply and have it be so effective!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 2 года назад
more examples: linear, square root, and quadratic 👉 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yC8Y50H6kw8.html 1/x and x^3 👉 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7VSG9G6EXrU.html
@dunemeister5718
@dunemeister5718 2 года назад
where did you get your shirt from????
@mikevaldez7684
@mikevaldez7684 Год назад
Shouldn't delta be smaller than epsilon? Such as Delta = e/3 ?
@Bayesic
@Bayesic 3 года назад
Where was this kind of content when I was in calc 1? Amazing video man!
@aliaziz1145
@aliaziz1145 3 года назад
This isn’t in calc 1 b/c u don’t focus on proofs in that course. This content comes up in advanced courses
@Bayesic
@Bayesic 3 года назад
@@aliaziz1145 we definitely had a couple sections in my calc 1 class that were dedicated to delta epsilon proofs. Technically optional but not as far as my teacher was concerned haha
@aliaziz1145
@aliaziz1145 3 года назад
@@Bayesic this definition of a limit is so much more satisfying than the lower level sanitized definition from freshman year college 😂
@harisl5994
@harisl5994 2 года назад
This man just explained the hardest topic in limits in just 15 Mins. Hats Off!!
@Chris-ng9zi
@Chris-ng9zi 2 года назад
For the second example where you said (@(8:27) root (2x+6) is always positive and thus {(2|x-5|) / (root(2x+6) + 4)} < (2|x-5|) / 4. Instead, could you have said the entire denominator (root(2x+6) + 4) is also positive and thus { (2|x-5|) / (root(2x+6) + 4) } < (2|x-5|). The result is that delta is equal to Epsilon/2 vs 2.epsilon. Is "Epsilon/2" an acceptable answer?
@ignacioezequielforte1816
@ignacioezequielforte1816 2 года назад
i have the same doubt
@issasondagur6086
@issasondagur6086 8 дней назад
@@ignacioezequielforte1816 Same
@user-pj9ez4xp4r
@user-pj9ez4xp4r 10 месяцев назад
this dude's actually the best i can't even put it into words how grateful i am for him and his wonderful content!!
@MichaelDuder
@MichaelDuder 2 года назад
Thank you so much for this... I am trying to get a headstart on calc out of Stewarts Calculus and they really don't do a very good job of explaining in the text so you just got me dug out of a ditch trying to understand what to do with exponents.
@chrisxd146
@chrisxd146 3 года назад
I almost wish my university would've had more time to focus on the delta-epsilon proof. We never went over the notation used for the limit of the quadratic so thankfully I learned about it before moving on from being an undergrad.
@dansantner
@dansantner 8 месяцев назад
This is the best explanation I've ever seen. Every other Real Analysis lecture makes this way too difficult and confusing.
@caghey
@caghey Год назад
i was reading a calculus book and i didn't understand a thing about this part but you made everything clear in 8 minutes! thank you so much!!!
@w7lves
@w7lves 2 года назад
this is kind of on me for not attending class after convo, but this man probably just saved me
@shawnpcyril4200
@shawnpcyril4200 2 года назад
Every Math professor should be simple, clear and paced as you are. Thanks a ton !
@foudilbenouci482
@foudilbenouci482 Год назад
Thank you very much you explaination is very efficient
@adityakulkarni9230
@adityakulkarni9230 3 года назад
Learned something new. This was a bit different from other vids as I could try the problems along with you. Really a great experience. Please do keep having more such alongside trial videos. BPRP Yay!
@UnevenerGgc2
@UnevenerGgc2 3 года назад
I’m not taking calc(not old enough yet to take it lol) but it was always difficult for me to wrap my head around quadratic epsilon delta proofs, it feels like this opened my 3rd eye
@smackdashitoutchu7755
@smackdashitoutchu7755 3 года назад
Wouldnt have been ever able to grasp this concept otherwise without this video. Thanks.
@iwonthide
@iwonthide 3 года назад
was waiting for this video thanks man ❤️
@frostinfy169
@frostinfy169 3 года назад
I've never been thought this method. I'll try to practice with it!
@WritersDigest-b8f
@WritersDigest-b8f 10 месяцев назад
Enjoyed it, explained with clarity, thank u, I will look for similar examples on YT from you to be able to solve all problem of this nature.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 10 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful! This is the video 24 rigorous limit proofs (ultimate calculus tutorial) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AfrnYS5S8VE.html
@ikersanchez8222
@ikersanchez8222 3 года назад
I wish I had found this video during my first college year. It is so well explained!
@jimmorrison6177
@jimmorrison6177 3 года назад
In the second problem you need d=min{8,2e} because in the current state, for e=5 we get d=10 but then x can be -4 (0
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 3 года назад
No, because x = -4 is not in the domain of the function in question anyway.
@dakshthawani6704
@dakshthawani6704 2 года назад
it was really helpful, thanks a lot
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 2 года назад
Glad to help 😃
@mathosophy3655
@mathosophy3655 2 года назад
For the last problem, we could instead choose δ to be (sqrt(49 + 4ε)-7)/2, and it would be a less strict condition as min{1,ε/8} ≤ (sqrt(49 + 4ε)-7)/2 for all ε. If, say hypothetically, we had to pay according to how small we chose δ to be, then we wouldn't want to choose it any smaller than we actually need to. In that case, the more complicated expression would cost the least. In any case, it was a great video, as always!
@natnaelh.baraki2869
@natnaelh.baraki2869 3 года назад
What about for the cases when X approaches to infinity?🙏🏽
@thiwankapathirana9532
@thiwankapathirana9532 2 года назад
Thank you so much for your help sir.
@spider-uh5ws
@spider-uh5ws 3 года назад
bro I am 14 and this is so nice and understandable, honestly you are the best teacher ever.
@jaloliddinzukhriddinov5820
@jaloliddinzukhriddinov5820 3 года назад
Thanks so much, you helped me to understand easily and fully about limits with epsilon, delta, thanks so much for your videos
@hb1318
@hb1318 Год назад
You're a lifesaver. Thank you!
@2manynathans
@2manynathans 2 года назад
excellent video! It was the one that finally made it make sense!!!!!!!
@BiscuitZombies
@BiscuitZombies 3 года назад
Thanks. I'm not in university yet, but I do like calculus and I think this is important.
@Mrsidd328
@Mrsidd328 3 года назад
I swear I heard him say "Idiot" at 2:28 (I know he says "in the end" but it confused me for a minute)
@przemezio
@przemezio 3 года назад
It sounds like "in D yet" :)
@valsnemakonde6936
@valsnemakonde6936 3 года назад
live lol
@navaerick86
@navaerick86 3 года назад
I felt like he was speaking directly to me.
@j.6230
@j.6230 3 года назад
@@navaerick86 To me as well, and he's right
@shivrajpatil1770
@shivrajpatil1770 2 года назад
The last sentence of "We Are Done." is too satisfying!!!
@_AmitabhShukla
@_AmitabhShukla 2 года назад
DAMN! you explained it to me in just 15 minutes and I was struggling with it for last 2 hours . ......Thanks , man.
@tharinduprabhath3377
@tharinduprabhath3377 2 года назад
Dude I was so fucked up by delta and Epsilon... You just solved it under 15 min.. Cool man.. You are a really good teacher.. Good Luck ❤️❤️❤️
@MrDZ-xc9ip
@MrDZ-xc9ip 2 года назад
Thanks teacher You save my life
@technicalbrains7675
@technicalbrains7675 3 года назад
That Pokeball looks awesome 😁
@tangpiseth8416
@tangpiseth8416 3 года назад
6:04 me having a flashback to my 7th grade trying to simplify a radical expression...
@taurus7868
@taurus7868 2 месяца назад
It always amazes me how smooth and fast you can shift your pen colors..
@AJ69238
@AJ69238 2 года назад
Excellent explanation! You're a life saver, man!
@ayberkkarakas6898
@ayberkkarakas6898 2 года назад
You're awesome mate!
@umat4892
@umat4892 2 года назад
Could you please solve this? Let lim n approaches to Infinity n(cube root of(n^3+6n^2+3n+2)+ square rootof (n^2-4n+2)-2n) = p/q where p and q are coprimes then the value of p+q is equal to ? Please make a video on this!
@isaklyon7660
@isaklyon7660 2 года назад
thank you bro you explained better than my lecture did in 2hrs
@amyholmes8373
@amyholmes8373 2 года назад
Better explanation than the lecturers at uni, tysm!
@Emilio-rf1ww
@Emilio-rf1ww 3 года назад
I was doing an exercise: lim x->3 x^2 =9 and I really don’t know if I’m correct, my answer was Delta = epsilon/7
@Emilio-rf1ww
@Emilio-rf1ww 3 года назад
And if someone is reading this I have another question, is it possible that the value of Delta has an X in it?
@sanghwa0_4
@sanghwa0_4 3 года назад
@@Emilio-rf1ww Delta = min{epsilon/7, 1}
@sanghwa0_4
@sanghwa0_4 3 года назад
@@Emilio-rf1ww if epsilon is bigger than 7, there is a contradiction. It must be coupled with 1.
@sanghwa0_4
@sanghwa0_4 3 года назад
@@Emilio-rf1ww Also, there must not be x in it. Thats why we use the minimum function😀
@Emilio-rf1ww
@Emilio-rf1ww 3 года назад
Thank you! I really appreciate it
@aidenhastings6341
@aidenhastings6341 2 года назад
Thank you! Do you have explanations of delta epsilon proofs in other contexts than just a limit (such as limit of a sequence, uniform continuity, etc)?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2xmKUBgWk78.html
@qin2500
@qin2500 2 года назад
AY YO! Bro, my midterm is tomorrow, you just saved my ass.
@hilaalimrit640
@hilaalimrit640 3 года назад
Me skipping every else delta-epsilon explication and watching his, just because he is holding a pokeball 👌
@cellothere5723
@cellothere5723 Год назад
This is an amazing video, thank you so much!!
@ShermukhammadKarimov
@ShermukhammadKarimov 4 месяца назад
thanks for clear explanation
@ludwigfredriksson3786
@ludwigfredriksson3786 3 года назад
Thanks, you explained it much better than my professor. It clicked!!
@thedoublehelix5661
@thedoublehelix5661 3 года назад
proof: trivial. proof (assuming we're allowed to use the algebraic limit theorem): Note that lim (ax + b) = a lim x + b.
@alifetimeoflearning
@alifetimeoflearning Год назад
It is so important to keep sharp with these proofs. In today’s world of “dumbing down” we are graduating students who, more or less are not able to think outside of the box. #alifetimeoflearning.
@kr4301
@kr4301 3 года назад
I wish I had these videos back in times i was taking calculus I class. However I succeed my Calculus I part 2 exam (mostly based on series and series of functions) thanks to your videos
@RUTHLESSS19
@RUTHLESSS19 3 года назад
Damn, this makes so much more sense! I really appreciate your work!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 3 года назад
Glad to hear!
@valsnemakonde6936
@valsnemakonde6936 3 года назад
Thank you so much, i should have known this channel before
@Redeemed_Daughter
@Redeemed_Daughter 2 года назад
You are the best man🥺🥺 thankyou
@HDitzzDH
@HDitzzDH 2 года назад
So… the goal is to somehow relate epsilon to delta? Once you have done that you’ve already proven the limit? No matter how close you’re approaching the given value (delta) you can always find a certain corresponding function value (epsilon), which is exactly what a limit is meant to represent, you are never exactly landing at let’s say x=2 but you can get as close as you want to it, thus the limit will be that value.
@jeremypolancolara2154
@jeremypolancolara2154 2 года назад
Nice explanation, very clear
@linkoffate
@linkoffate 3 года назад
This guy is evolving to Master Xehanort
@joseph-ianex
@joseph-ianex 4 месяца назад
Great video! I'm a bit confused when I was supposed to learn this though because I'm taking Calc 2 now and was never taught this in Calc 1 or 2 so I guess the teachers assumed it wasn't important or just didn't have time
@SuperYoonHo
@SuperYoonHo Год назад
THANK YOU!
@cezarkaja2405
@cezarkaja2405 2 года назад
Man he explains it better than my teacher . And also holds a pokeball all along
@muhammadmuaaz3704
@muhammadmuaaz3704 2 года назад
Bro you are nothing less than a life saver man thanks a lot bruh this video is amazing. .
@zayedsalim5333
@zayedsalim5333 2 года назад
At 6:26, why we can't say that it's less than 2*|x-5| (in stead of 2*|x-5| over 4)? so delta = epsilon/2...
@epsa9324
@epsa9324 2 года назад
taught better than our college professor..... do uploa more videos.....
@ahadkhan7290
@ahadkhan7290 3 года назад
great explanation, made a complicated topic seem easy and simple!
@chileshesikazwe8500
@chileshesikazwe8500 3 года назад
thank you from Zambia
@pianoplayer123able
@pianoplayer123able 3 месяца назад
I actually eliminated the x in the second example with (also I was curious what happens) making delta samller then 1. |x-5|
@dognip
@dognip 3 года назад
I've just started calculus. It's nice
@raghadsan603
@raghadsan603 3 года назад
that was so clear thanks
@ninjapirate123
@ninjapirate123 5 месяцев назад
This dude is a legend
@jianzhao4208
@jianzhao4208 3 года назад
|x+5|=|x-2+7|
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 3 года назад
Yes This is a way better (and more mathematical) explain. 😃
@leif1075
@leif1075 3 года назад
@@blackpenredpen Why do you have epislon and delta??..why not just one variable...seems needlessly complicated.and confusing
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 3 года назад
@@leif1075 That is just the definition of a limit.
@leif1075
@leif1075 3 года назад
@@angelmendez-rivera351 oh it's been a while..so one corresponds to x and the other to f(x) I take it? Epsilon for x and delta for f(x) or vice versa..
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 3 года назад
@@leif1075 ε corresponds to f(x), and δ to x.
@Engineering_conceptsUOM
@Engineering_conceptsUOM 3 года назад
Excellent … thank you so much sir…
@frozenmoon998
@frozenmoon998 3 года назад
Hardest Calc 1 problems made easy by bprp himself.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 3 года назад
😆 thanks.
@mohamedfarouk9654
@mohamedfarouk9654 3 года назад
I don't know if it's valid but |x-2| < delta |x+5| < delta+7 So |x+5|•|x-2| < (delta + 7)delta = delta² + 7•delta We want delta²+7•delta = epsilon delta² + 7•delta + 49/4 = epsilon+49/4 (delta + 7/2)² = epsilon + 49/4 delta + 7/2 = √(epsilon + 49/4) delta = √(epsilon + 49/4) - 7/2
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 3 года назад
Yes, this is valid.
@HDitzzDH
@HDitzzDH 3 года назад
How could we just remove the sqrt(2x+6) part for the second example? And what are we really doing to justify that? Are we looking for the minimum value that specific term can take (which is 0)? Aka min{ sqrt(2x+6) } = 0?
@Supervergil1
@Supervergil1 3 года назад
By removing a NON NEGATIVE value from a POSITIVE SUM in the denominator, you're GUARANTEEING that you're making the denominator SMALLER, but you're also keeping it POSITIVE. That in turn guarantees that the whole value becomes bigger (try it on simple numbers like he did - 1/4 vs 1/(4+1)) Do notice that if the denominator was the product of two positive things and not sum, he couldn't have done that move so easily (if at all), Because he can't know if he'll be removing a number between 0 and 1, or a number larger than 1, so won't be able to guarantee that the denominator will actually become bigger, probably unless he plays with the delta requirement or something that I'm too lazy to think about. When adding / removing things in the inequality trip, you'll mainly want to pay attention to positive /negative values, values that you don't know if they're always positive or not, checking if values are a fraction or bigger than 1 ( matters when a product is included in the game).
@lmc_x_hep9356
@lmc_x_hep9356 2 года назад
Wow bro, u are so brilliant, I like u bro, u help me so much to understand
@ElemenTalParkour
@ElemenTalParkour 3 года назад
great explamation!!! do you have some examples with x going to infinity ?
@alexandreclemson9445
@alexandreclemson9445 3 года назад
Thx thx really thx it took me several years to understand that damnned e-d stuff until I see your video.
@sajinilakshika5000
@sajinilakshika5000 2 года назад
I got an A for real analysis (continuous/discontinuous functions ) just bcz of this 8 minutes video.. tnx blackpenredpen ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@sajinilakshika5000
@sajinilakshika5000 2 года назад
From Srilanka
@Ommbye
@Ommbye 3 года назад
Thank you is wonderful.
@insectus4759
@insectus4759 3 года назад
Hello, thank you for this video, it is really helpful. I have a question in mind: In a new video, can you use the same method for the trigonometric and exponantial functions as well as a polynomial function which we cannot write as product of two or more polynomials? For instance as lim x->10 (x^2 -x+89). Because in the example showed in video, we reached x-2 easily so our assumption about delta was helpful. How are we going to do when it won't be like this? Thank you in advance and thank you for this amazing channel! Videos are not only helpful but also inspirational!
@approachinglimits
@approachinglimits 2 года назад
Thank you for this video! I could not figure out how to do the quadratics of these for the life of me. The answer key in the back of the book has the answer but no sufficient explanation. And the only other example I could find on RU-vid was of a quadratic the factored to a perfect square which comes out much nicer in these circumstances.
@TheKiller-me3uy
@TheKiller-me3uy 6 месяцев назад
كبيييير واصلي دوووود
@mszawerd
@mszawerd 3 года назад
Could you do a film about trigonometric solutions in cubic polynomials?
@ellielinyan1521
@ellielinyan1521 2 года назад
watching this 2 days before my calculus paper and suddenly it all makes sense...LMAOOOO
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