How to Estimate Painting Jobs | Estimating Exterior Paint Jobs | By Painting Business Pro 

Great Video! 0:00 Introduction 0:50 Pace of the house 1:34 Scraping & sanding 3:02 Spot Priming 3:41 Caulking 4:42 Powerwash 5:00 Siding 5:30 Eaves 6:35 Fascia 7:19 Downspouts & gutters 8:02 Window Trim 8:48 Door Trim 9:10 Garage Trim 9:30 Other Trim 10:15 Shutters 10:35 Railings 11:18 Patio Covers 11:36 Miscellaneous 16:38 look for moister 20:07 Total Up 20:40 Convert Measurements to hours 21:55 Labour cost 22:04 Materials 22:53 Overhead & Margin 24:59 The importance of a very strong Sales Process

It's not actually 1200 for the sub contractor though. They have to be bonded and insured, covered by workers comp, drive to the job, provide a pressure washer and gas, provide a sprayer, provide tape, paper, masking film, maybe painters plastic, caulking, putty or bondo, primer, spray tip, brushes, roller naps etc. Also you bid labor at 20 an hour. So if they are a licensed, bonded and insured sub after paying labor burden 20 an hour turns into a couple 14 an hour employees, quality painters make more than that, that's an apprentice wage. Journeyman or very experienced painters are going to be 18-30 which actually costs a company 25-38 roughly. Once you take materials and trip costs out there's probably realistically closer to $1000. So even if you had 2 guys at 14(20 labor burden) and they finished in 2 days the owner makes 360. More likely they finish in 3 days and the owner is makes 40 bucks. This is in no way a lucrative pay scale like you say, yeah you're making good money but the subs definitely aren't. You need to charge more and pay the subs more if you really want "take care of your subs".

Such an awesome guy! Will definitely help many grow! All this information will definitely help us grow!🙏 thank you! So nice!

WOW good stuff, many thanks!

Great video Eric. Thank you very much for this. I am just starting out and this is a great reference to use to understand things to look for when estimating. Much appreciated.

Thank you eric for this, best video yet in my opinion. I'm a visual learner and even though the other videos you made are helpful, just seeing it helps me and clears it up 100x! please dont hesitate to take more visual videos! like a recorded phone call of setting estimates or anything or any visual videos! thank!!

IM ACTUALLY A SIDING SUB CONTRACTOR DOING IT FOR 20 YEARS I GOT TIRED OF SEEING HOW SOME PAINTERS HERE IN CALIFORNIA JUST DONT DO AS GOOD OF A JOB SO I GOT INTO DOING THE WHOLE PACKAGE SIDING AND PAINT. JUST YESTERDAY I SPRAYED MY FIRST HOUSE . IM INTRESTED ON LEARNING AS MUCH AS I CAN ABOUT PAINT I LOVE IT .THNKS FR INFO. THUMPS UP.

Thank you Eric for this great video I really appreciate people like you. I'm Julian from JR American Painting LLC 🖐✌

Extremely helpful video of the breakdown and labor hours for each side of this home...we apppreciate you Eric

Thank you sir for this very helpful video. It inspires me to have my own painting business. It helps me a lot. Everytime i need something to know about this kind of job, i just watch your videos. 👍👍👍

Sales guys secure their profit. What about when things go wrong like for example removing the wall paper was not a easy as it looked. Who gets screwed? When you sub out who deals with the employees of the subs asking for more money. I’m greedy my self and am trying to find my self on how to pay the right amount and keep my skilled guys. At this moment we have a lot of work and not enough man power. In other words the labor maker in favor or the employees. They demand more or else they go with another sub. Right now in GA no one works for less than 18 an hour. But I guess that makes up for inflation. What’s going to happen is that we are going to be forced to increase price to costumer, but we need to stop being cheap and hurting one another by not charging what we have to charge.

Thank you for making sense of the exterior standards I downloaded a while ago. Now I understand it much appreciated from Massachusetts!! Ps yes, everyone wants 25 to 30 an hour around here but can't cut a straight line..lol

You would get around $6,000 for that house in Oregon

Excellent info thanks .

From Rescue Painting team! You rock and are the best so helpful!!!!

The homeowner is also paying for your years of knowledge and expertise. Not just your labor and the cost of paint. In 2023 a job like this would go for 5-6 grand.

VERY HELPUL…: as you can tweak this so it fits your labor, materials, miscellaneous & overhead etc: to make your best, ROI. ALL THE BEST, DEREK

Simple, and brilliant way to explain how to estimate.The time numbers seem low, but I know your adding production costs and doubling for margin. Prep work is the SLOWEST part the process. But the most necessary...

Great video , thanks so much

Here in California a good painter makes at least $25 hr. I bought your program a couple months ago and it's worked for me but I've had to charge more on labour. Your sales process is gold. Thanks for this videos Eric and God bless

Excellent approach Eric, please useful

Thank you for doing this

This is pretty freakin bad ass! Not everybody knows how to convert steps to feet so that's good you mentioned the paces. I'd like to contribute to this video too because some people will take it as you say it and will be stuck or simply forget. For those that want a faster way to estimate on painting you can do what he shows of course to assess the property but also have a way to determine faster prior which can get your supply cost quickly. You can them adjust when you are there. Knocks down estimating times big time and gets them bids in faster and working sooner. This is mainly aimed for new people getting started and a disclaimer, this is NOT downing anyone nor am I trying to "be smarter than the rest". I work for myself so have to develop these logical strategies in order to make it. Example Sq Ft: 1,550 1 Can of Paint Covers 400 Sq Ft Paint Cost: $27.00 How Many Cans?: Formula(SQ FT / 400) = 2.88(3 Cans) Paint Supply Cost: Formula: ($81.00 * 3) * 2 = $162.00(Cans For Two coats. Include 3 more cans for primer) Additional Supplies: $60.00 Total Supply Cost: $222.00 Base Rate(Going High on This One): $48.70/hour Estimates time for Project: 2 days Formula: $48.70 * 48 = $2,337.60 Rate + Supplies = $2559.60 Retainer(.20%) = $511.92 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can apply this for anything if you know how to convert. For those that start pacing the properties you can get your sq ft quickly. Pace the "L" shape for length and width. Example My Step I Take: 2.2ft Front of Home(Left To Right): 13 Steps Front to Rear(Front To Rear): 22 Steps Conversion: Front of Home: 28.6ft (2.2ft * 13 Steps) Front To Rear: 48.4ft (2.2ft * 22 Steps) Estimated Sq Ft: 1,384.24 sq ft(1,384 for those that don't worry about the "inches(.24)"

I think that price is very fair. Especially on a house that's in good shape. I personally do houses in bad shape for about $1000 more than this house. So I definitely need to rethink my estimates. Great videos.

Eric, thanks for this, I am looking for the Estimate Standard Sheet you used in this video? As always love your content keep up the super amazingness. All The Best, Derek

That's pretty much the way I do, Eric, That's a great lesson, but how about the supplies is it included in your price? I thought that was pretty low for my area. Thanks for the video.

That price is not low or high it is a good fair price i learn a lot thanks for the help

Do you always do one coat spraying houses or two coats?

Hey Eric, quick question about the estimating standard form. At the bottom where you have the Price Equation further down under that, there's a box that says "Total Price x 1.35 =??? 5-year price" What is that for? Is that saying how much it will cost 5 years from now? I'm not supposed to use that, am I? I haven't seen that being used in any video thus far. And just wondering what that was about? Thank you for all that you do for us painters...

Where do I get does sheets to write all the information for the estimates?

Good stuff as always Eric! I came up with $3,103.00

The way I do it is take the square footage of the house, say 2000 sq ft and multiply it by $1.50 = $3000 give or take a bit to account for extra or less work. I usually get about 95% of my bids, which means I probably don't charge enough. I'll have to try it your way next time.... if this damn virus crisis would go away already so the phone would start ringing again.

Do you estimate dormers any differently? Also are all these equations including two coats or just one? Thanks for these videos! Do you plan on doing a similar video for an interior?

Painters Labor hours California is $20 to $25.... helpers $12 to $15

To be honest l tried to be fair. But l notice in some upper middle class neighbourhoods -Other contactors charge a lot. I remember one time this customer call me for an estimate big two storage house I already have my price one coat $4500 l was surprise when she show me the estimate. 7,800. So was able to match same price.

Thanks Eric! This is great man! I now know how to do estimate.. i think I could also tweak it a little so that I could use my phone excel. That way, the total price would come out faster.

Could you please tell me how to get those forms. I just start working in a company, love what I do, and hopefully I can do it by myself. Excelent video, thank you.

Very good

This helped me out a lot. Thank you.

I did sub painting job this house was lead based paint so there was lots of prep some wood repair stucco, I saw how much the company was getting pay and the total was $19,000 dollars, I don't know why other guys charge so cheap, I guess is the only way they get some jobs but lowering the prices and getting fast food worker wages is not competition

Seems to me it was quoted one coat. My recommendations same color one coat l always suggest second coat where the sun hit the most. You can see the way paint fade away or peels. I do recommend two coats in that area. Also when customer request change color in the house. I notice a lot times paint cover with one coat. Even when you using a different color - If customer request two coats. You will use the same price - except prep time you already did that part in your first coat. I do charge depend on the area this year l was able to charge for two storage house by the lake including two small garage no scraping. Two coats, 8 shutters. Gutters. I wall stucco 4 colors. I did spray it took my crew about 90 hours $9000 plus 10% off

Spot primer jobs for exterior painting are not good?

You're the man Eric...

Link are Super Aswome. Thankyou. I feel like you Could Have edited the video and Maybe Plan Your Diologue A Bit Better. Ty

Where do I find your form's to download?

Do you have videos that show how to estimate a stucco house ,Im in florida

That was pretty good. I estimate the same way except i dont do .25 and .5 and stuff,, i just keep everything 1 hr and try to make $300 per day here in nyc as a self employed painter. $300 usually gets any job that i estimate. i have a 90% closing rate and just call businesses that could use fresh painting every few years.. As im building a customer base,, i would like to just stay on the phone while sub contractors do the deals that i close. But i cant seem to make the transition. Im stuck in worker mode and trying to figure out how to get past that,, and hire guys. Thx for ur insight and i will continue to watch ur videos.

In new Zealand that house to paint would be around 19k.

Just a couple things that needs to be adjusted here. Not everybody paces the same length. You need to measure your own "step" from big to to big toe. So example my steps are 1.5' each pace(no stretching your steps out)... Again, it's an example number despite my actual pace; 1.5 x 30(paces or steps) = 45"(front side) 1.5 x 19(paces or steps) = 28 1/2"(front side) = 1,282 Sq Ft Also when you are talking 1.5, .5 ... etc. Those are like flag hour types. So yes, you're adding up the total hours but also for the new people, they need to understand that you need to apply your worth with that. You'll have someone calculating 18.7 hours and will mess around and charge $1,000 because "they don't want to scare the client". SO let me say this for those that are starting out including myself(Im a licensed contractor by the way but I don't paint... until the other day). So helping you new peeps out is the first thing is knowing your worth. I'll say this in short hand... if you are a bad ass painter and looking to branch on your own.. f'in do it :-) but know YOUR worth as well as your market. Out here it's $1.50/sq ft Labor for some people, we charge based on the job so therefore we have that flag hour setup and we have a base charge. Been working in field for so long I've developed my own competitive strategy but you can do it like this for starting out Example 1 Define Your Worth: Add up your total expenses: Ex. $2275.00/month(all bills and mortgages baby wipes toilet paper and all) Expense Rate Per Day: $75.83 Expense Rate Per Hr: $9.48 Expense Per Sq Ft: $1.75(Your sq ft labor rate inverted from the expenses based on 1,300sq ft anything) So this means you need to charge at least $3.50/sq ft(if you use sq ft rates) Example 2 Define Your Pricing: Your Market Rate from researching: $3.16/sq ft(All products and labor inclusive) ... remember, you are a bad ass and know your level of work so you can charge this ethically, we'll call it "Your Rate". Your Rate * Sq Ft(1282) = $4,051.12 $4,051.12 + 15%(Possible Incidentals and additionals/Blanket) = $4,658.79(Your EXAMPLE Price)(You can blanket this at 30% if you need too and tell the client prices will adjust accordingly) So your BASE price for a 1,300sq ft home for painting is $3.63/sq ft. Well within national margins. if you are a sub/unlicensed, you need to be at $3.12/sq ft). If you are a contractor and have subs then you make it inclusive to $6.12/sq ft across the board and that puts the estimate at $7,845.84. Little high but that would be a California rate or can damn well work out here where I'm at. Again example numbers but when you have all these factors, you can literally show up on-site and can drill out an estimate within 10-13 minutes instead of knit picking ".5, .15, .35, .12, .25...etc...etc. The methods I've shown works, people are happy, even the few who have compared me said I'm super competitive and well within reason. In all honestly, I wanted to start the moment I saw the this video appear in my timeline when he posted, his method got me started but I've since evolved.

So are the handrailings above the spindles included in your 3 hours time for that or would you add another 30 minutes or so?

Took a nap outside the gym woke up to this guy still counting

Hey, Having trouble getting the free guide. It says I have to buy the course which I am not yet ready to do. I typed both my emails but they don't send.

Quick question: Why do you divide by .42 to get total cost. What does .42 represent?

i have clicked on your link and after i have entered my name and email it says page not found. any way else i can get your spread sheets?

Would still this estimate model be good to use in 2023?

With all the comments on rates, it's clear most people don't understand what he means by "$20/hr." That's not the hourly wage for the painters. That number includes the subcontractor's Social Security and Medicaid match (7.65%), state and federal unemployment tax, worker's comp insurance, general liability insurance, etc. Those should be about 20-30% of the hourly rate. There's also PTO, health insurance, etc. It also includes the subs' cost for equipment, van, gas, phone, etc, etc, etc. Not sure what the painter's hourly wage is, but I doubt it would be above $15/hr if the sub is only getting $20.

I would like to know how or why the .42 was divided? Sorry if its somthing i missed

A lot of people (including me) are being thrown off assuming its 2 coats. You may want to something in there to make it clear the price is 1 coat. I read several comments where you clarified that but not everyone will read the comments.

27$ for paint? 20/hr for labor? What decade are you in man?

That's pretty much the way I do it. I round my paint up to $30 gal or $40 $50 depending on product. And prep is a full day so that's $350 (or whatever you charge per day). Atlanta.

Wow

Don’t forget to add padding to the bid. That house would be around $7500 here

I tried to get the estimating sheet.. but nothing has come.

You mean subs with all the work experience do the labor. And you make money.

I need the forms please

Do you need a contractors license if your subbing it out?

Primer and one coat?

What about insurances, suplices, transportation, tools for subcontractors they don't get for free, please add extra money for that....

Couldn't download the forms. Took me to a click funnel site

This guy is a genius. Videos are helping me like crazy. But I'm sooooooo confused. As soon as he said .42 he lost me 100 percent. I have no idea where .42 came from what it's for(I seen a comment saying it's mark up) but how did he get it? Why did he divide it? Ect heeeellllllpppp

Could you please explain profit margin. And the 0.42 x total cost

so you wasnt calculating how long it took for each area? .25 those are measurements?

Do you need contractors? I'm from Denver, Co

Where does .42 comes from?

I would go bankrupt before i started the job at those prices. That's like $8,000 job where im from.

Are you familiar with certa pro

what is .42 from?

Yeah Id go 12.000 for labor 15.000 material included

How much do you pay your estimator/sales person that did the estimate and got the job?

If it takes one week three painters and I paid $25 an hour it means I need to charge $6,000 only Labor.

I feel like the price is low

Wow... What happened to the audio? Obviously it was just the camera mic. Never ever use the camera mic. Get a wireless lavalier. Great info... Maybe you should re-do this one.

Yeah California labor hours for painters is $18 to $25.... 3 painters a day is $500 for two days $1000 for 3 days $1500 4 days $2000 plus materials and the money owner the painting company 4 a list is $3400 to $3800 paint house California $3400 and up

Great video but I actually thought you low balled urself by about $900 and two people a few days more like a week you would spend one day masking/prep and priming can't spray trim& body..agian great video but a week bruh.

Does anyone hear crickets in this video

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thats too cheap I would charge at least double and they buy the paint

I’m sorry! But who the hell pays painters 12 dollars an hour. That’s embarrassing, maybe somewhere else, but not in Cali. The pricing is crazy!

lol 20 bucks an hour for a owner of a company hahahahahahahahaha,, 40 to 50 is what we get in New Hampshire,,but we contract hardly ever do by the hour. i noticed that house is mostly vinyl siding. so this guy says 55 hours to paint this house by brush or sprayer? so 3 guys 2 days and this house is all done doors windows trim siding,,sure buddy you can not bid a house at all.

Haha yeah, keep giving freebies. The people who actually do the job pay for that SMH