How To Face Suffering | Nietzsche & Buddha 

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Refreshing to have an intellectual and thoughtful approach to such an important topic that gets no attention in the chaos of the modern day world.

Science and Buddhism saved my life from stupidity. Thank you for sharing Master Buddhas wisdom.

The Buddha's concept of suffering is absolute in a way that it leads to its liberation. Nietzsche's concept of suffering is relative in a way that it leads to its acceptance.

Makes eastern philosophy accessible to a western mind. Great work.

My father was told he only had 2 years to live, about 5 years ago. He is still with us, yet he is currently in the hospital again. Each time he goes it gets a bit more real, yet he has blown past his given time. I mourned him in the beginning, but have gone through my own life changes in this time. The lessons all sunk in after over a decade of study. So its odd so speaking the words, I am happy being with my dad as he goes through this. I was once afraid of being with him as he passed away. Afraid of my own reactions. But the deeper I have gone, the more I see I need to simply be present with him and the drama and fear fades away. So, enjoy him and our presences, hopefully he can find peace in his suffering. This too shall pass, as does it all.

Those who think Buddhism and meditation exist to end suffering fail to understand either. If both are to be understood, let’s understand them as practices to cultivate a level of mindfulness that opens us up to our suffering - like an old, concerned friend. We struggle with suffering because we resist it.

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Incredible. I played this to alleviate suffering. I ended up embracing it.

Either Nietzsche discovered something few others have ever grasped, or he pioneered the most high effort form of cope that has ever existed.

I recommend you read The doctrine of the buddha by George Grimm. Modern buddhism is polluted with the thoughts, rituals, and rules of unrealized or merely partially realized aspirants. For the presectarian teachings based purely on the concil of monks who heard buddhas words directly, this is your best bet.

Your analysis about the Buddha is really amazing. Thanks for this video.🙏 Love from Saranath, Varanasi❤️

there were only 3 habits to suffering 1. Hatred 2. Greed 3. Delusion, practicing understanding of these habits can be a simple way towards the end of most sorrow in today's world

This remind me of the Great sage of Tibet, Mila Repa and his student Rechungpa. Mila Repa on the other hand, killed hundreds of villager with his dark occult, later the guilt of his deed almost took his own life , yet he met courageous master mold his darkness to brightest of the sages till date. Now we have Rechungpa, he who is in the foot step of his master Mila Repa, longing for the darkest occult text to kill and know the pain of his master to burn like him in the highest way or the fastest way to so call nirvana. Thankfully Milarepa caught his plan and the epic conversation between the master and student is just gold.

Buddhism is the only religion with nothing not compatible or refuted by science and logic. Many teachings by the Buddha was proven by science now, especially on the elements.

Very well done. Nietzsche had only to look into dreams to find more answers, like Jung did....Buddha got it right.

I appreciate the depth of your thoughts. It stimulated my own and here is what I can share: sometimes, the teaching become a challenge and become more intellectual rather than emphasizing the experiential aspects and the application. Too much in the head is not the best way I feel but more getting to the core of the principles that makes 100% sense for the listener or the student and then, once they are empowered with the principles, i.e. once they get a grip, then the ball is in their court to find a harmonious way to apply them for their particular make up, journey and conditionings. What happens sometimes is that sometimes those who immerse themselves in a Buddhist orientation for example, loose their perspective and also, sometimes, become attached. My understanding of life via the various spiritual explorations that I did and ended up with Buddhist principles is that: There is the true nature, the Holy Spirit, the Buddha Nature of who we are. This is the aspect that is ONE with all. But then, each one of us, made of a body happens to be born in a certain set up with its own traditions, conditioning, etc etc... maybe good parents or unskilled parents... etc.. That distract us of our true Nature and we get lost : some more than the others. We need to wake that true part of us up - like a laser that goes in and ignites a little flame that starts the process of awakening. Once the flame has been lit - even a little... the person is on the road whether they are aware of it or not... I feel. Another very important aspect is Application of the teachings. We know what to do and may understand it but that is not enough. We have to work with our own vehicle and our own conditioning etc... by becoming aware, mindful and have the courage to look at the convoluted patterns that we ended up with to survive... of course with no judgment but with honest discernment of what is skillful and what is not. This process helps us to unravel the programming - i.e. if we had the courage to be with that convoluted part of ourselves. To me THAT is where it starts.... otherwise we are just talking about things without application. It is all in our head and that is not enough. The Buddha gave us all the clues and tools...and awarenesses to work with: e.g. clinging, aversion, ignorance....BUT now we have to see those aspects in our selves and be aware so they may unravel and be replaced transformationally to be aligned with our true nature, Buddha nature, Holy Spirit. That would be self empowering and self transformational. Bottom line then is: to put all these clear clues that the Buddha left us into practice; and that was his intention. They are principles of how the universe and life works and we are to work to unravel the entanglement, unravel the knots and align with our true nature. Challenging work but so worth while.... and after the first time done, it gets easier. e.g. I recently saw a patter I have re signing a lease for rent: I saw that part that hated anyone who made me suffer. That was hard to see because my impression of who I am is this wonderful being who is for peace, love and transformation. BUT then I saw my own hate that gets me bend out of shape. Seeing it, made it easier not to act from it - next time it came up. THAT was exhilarating. One step towards freedom. One step towards liberation. One step to be able to help others substantially through my unravelling in a more effective way. Meditation is one tool but there are many others - in fact possibly also needed to complement; such as: Good therapy - healing wounds so that attachment is released...etc... It is important not to get attached to Dharma and the words and indulge in analysis, and having 'opinions' as long as the integrity of the core teachings and principles for liberation is preserved. My thoughts.

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Thank you. Love and peace. Tim

Thanks for all the amazing work you do

I think there are small number of channels on the Internet to think as deeply as you do… Very few have the visual/video perspective to accompany the words. Great job!

Nice work again. Appreciate you

Thank you again for these videos 🙏

Really great show lad. Maybe one on Schopenhauer and the buddha. They viewed the world alike much thanks to the upanishads.

great Video and great value. you went right threw the hard questions. must have been hard to make this video. thank you for it.

Thank you for all your marvelous videos

Your videos are so good! This is the type of stuff that should be broadcasted on specialty channels! Haley analyzed and articulate. They are certainly of the highest caliber as far as I’ve seen. Thank you so much!

How serendipitous it is that this should come out shortly after I finished watching/listening to all of Weitgeist's synopsises of Nietzsche's works.

Great video, also looking for any Daoism related video or a comparison with Buddhism in the future.

What an amazing mind. I’ve been sharing these high and wide. Thank you

Brilliant!

Fascinating

Title: "Understanding Suffering: Lessons from Nietzsche and Buddha" Suffering is an inevitable aspect of human existence, a notion explored by two influential figures in history: Friedrich Nietzsche, the German philosopher, and the Buddha, an ancient Indian sage. Both Nietzsche and the Buddha emphasize the importance of acknowledging suffering rather than avoiding it. They argue that suffering is not merely detrimental but can also lead to personal growth and transformation. Nietzsche views suffering as a necessary teacher, capable of deepening one's character and expanding one's perspective. He distinguishes between two attitudes towards suffering: the "way of the weak" and the "way of the strong." The former seeks to escape or avoid suffering, while the latter confronts it head-on, using it as a means for personal development and empowerment. Nietzsche believes that true strength arises from embracing suffering and transforming it into a source of resilience and growth. Central to Nietzsche's philosophy is the concept of the "will to power," which he defines as the driving force behind all human endeavors. He sees pleasure and pain as manifestations of this will, with suffering arising from the restriction of power. According to Nietzsche, individuals can either succumb to suffering or harness it as a catalyst for self-improvement and creative expression. On the other hand, the Buddha's teachings offer a different perspective on suffering. He identifies craving as the root cause of suffering and emphasizes the importance of overcoming desire to attain enlightenment. For the Buddha, suffering encompasses not only physical pain but also the inherent dissatisfaction and impermanence of existence. The Buddha's path to liberation, known as the Noble Eightfold Path, combines elements of both Nietzsche's "way of the weak" and "way of the strong." It involves temporarily strengthening certain cravings, such as the desire for enlightenment, in order to ultimately transcend all craving and achieve a state of inner peace known as Nirvana. Despite their differences, Nietzsche and the Buddha share a common goal: to confront suffering with courage and wisdom. Both advocate for a deeper understanding of the human condition and encourage individuals to embrace the transformative power of suffering. Ultimately, their teachings remind us that suffering is an integral part of life, but how we respond to it determines our growth and enlightenment. By facing suffering with resilience, acceptance, and curiosity, we can turn tragedy into triumph and find joy and wisdom amidst life's challenges.

Another absolutely wonderful video. Thank you!

Buddha's teaching on suffering is nothing like Nietzsche's teaching on the same topic. For Buddha, suffering can be transcended by attaining enlghtenment. But for Nietzsche, there is no such possibility.

Excellent video!!

Thank you

I love your videos, especially the buddhism series! I'm very interested to see your approach with Nirvana. Thank you for sharing your insights

It is anachronistic to use our modern word " suffering" to translate dukkha. It's original sense , as opposed to sukkha, was " an uneven orbit / rotation" i.e. a bumpy ride It's interesting to note that String Theory, the orbits of planets and stars, waves and etc, are essential curves, or uneven orbits

“The greatest artist is the aesthetic; creating beauty that never needs to be shared. The worst artist is the critic: the pinnacle of a pious parasite.”

Very good thank you so much with love… 🦋🕊🌹

When i started to listening to your videos, my life changed, thank you my friend, or let me say, thank you to the part of me that is lives in you. half of my spritual journey has been guided by your teachings about buddha etc, and rest of it by the Rumi's. i Discovered so many similarities in Rumi's Teachings and those of the Buddha. i Believe the mystical Aspect of Islam is much more closer to the Buddha's teachings. I'm sure you know it better than I do, it would be Excellent if you could create a content about Sufism and it's Connection to the Buddhism.

This is great, Simeon :)

Thank you for presenting a very thought provoking video. This type of knowledge helps guide me into trying to understand life's mysteries. This simply helps me cope with everyday struggles when I see a much bigger picture is being formed.❤

Wow, what a great video!

Nietzche did respect political power as an expression of the will to power as exemplified in his praise of both Napolean and Cesar.

Fascinating elaboration on the teachings of our beloved wise anscestors, thank you truly, your efforts in condenssing this for us all is very much appreciated.

Thanks

Let's consider the way Jung looked at Western minds attempting to digest Buddhism or Hinduism, or any other Eastern philosophy or way of thinking (I have to admit that the gap is shrinking nowadays, and am not talking quantitively). He, himself, admitted that a lot of riddles in the Hindu culture are still not solved yet, or even discovered, and who knows what insights that would bring us (the psychology of kundalini yoga). Two things I want to add to this comparative presentation: 1- The idea behind extreme asceticism in Hinduism, is basically to become one with the pain, too familiar with it to the point of welcoming it, and there is a certain logic in that, to escape from pain, let us suffer, until there is no more suffering to go through, isn't it a little similar to Nietzsche approach, sure you can call such an attitude noble, but only because it takes courage only few have, but here's something to thing about: "we call brave, cowards who are afraid to run away". 2- By now, I believe we can agree, in terms of Ultimate Truth or Reality, that denying or agreeing to any kind of theory or ideology or even culture, is an egoic manifestation, how would a Western cradled ego face a doctrine, dharma, way of thinking... the name we give it is not really important, that denies some manifestations of its very existence.

“Dukka” in original meaning refers to the “five skandhas or five aggregates” not to Suffering as translated later into books. What Buddha says is that there’s no real suffering or a sufferer.. Due to illusion of ignorance we identify sensory experiences are real in nature and experienced by a person… Buddhist “Anatta or no-self” teaches that body, mind and sensory experiences are just appearance in consciousness and consciousness itself takes the limited form of body/mind to experience the illusory form world as a separate self.. Realising that you are the formless unchanging consciousness that “doesn’t become” any of the appearances in consciousness is the end of illusory ignorance and end of worldly suffering.. Our real nature is like a Screen where it allows everything to appear on it without allowing them to change its original formless nature.. Screen never suffers from the scenes in the Movie…

I have had this experience

Even though buddhism is 4000 year earlier than Nietzsche it's philosophy comes across way more advanced than Nietzsche whom seems to almost fetishise suffering and see's conquest of circumstances as the end goal, he seems very much of his era which was all about overcoming adversity to conquer as opposed to truly understanding the nature of suffering and the illusions it is based upon which is what buddhism teaches.

Misfortune is what makes insufferable people tolerable. It's what allows empathy and compassion. For example, if you have a kitten who scratches everyone... get another kitten, who, when scratched, will scratch the first kitten back. Then the first kitten will learn that scratching hurts, and they'll stop scratching people except in extreme circumstances. Most people are like this, too. There is, however, a percentage of people who won't develop empathy when scratched. A smart society will keep those people busy as soldiers, builders, and prisoners if they can't adjust... but hopefully there is a productive place for them. As far as suffering, that's separate from misfortune. Suffering is a choice. Unfortunately, this video doesn't disentangle such linguistic subtleties very well... it sort of conflates them... IOW it skips steps. It has to, because of the time constraints. For example, a person doesn't respond to suffering... a person creates suffering. A person responds to sense impressions, which includes all external events. The suffering is a response to these. But, in order to make the video concise, when you want to discuss the next step, you simply say "the person responds to suffering". If listeners mistake this shorthand for reality, it might reinforce the mistaken impression that suffering comes from outside. But that's life... communication is difficult🤣.

If you have read Nietzsche then you will be familiar with his concept of the revaluation of values. Now, have you read his biography under the title of ‘My Sister and I ‘, and are you able to accept this shocking expose’ of his personal life as coming from the pen of Nietzsche as he lay dying, paralyzed and suffering mental illness? If so, then this single work of his, his revaluation of values of his own philosophy will bring with it a deepening of insight into the source of his writings in personal experience. It should be noted that he replaced the will to power with the power of love, as he here admits to his consuming love for the Russian Jewish Lou Salome’. Never one to rest on his past achievements this work, scorned by the academic community of Nietzsche scholars, is his own personal revaluation of values.

Why do you not mention that he was influenced by the teachings of the Buddha? And concept of Ubermench he took from Buddha’s concept of Uttara manussa!

Title: "Exploring Nietzsche & Buddha’s Insights on Suffering: A Comparative Analysis" --- **Introduction** Suffering is an undeniable aspect of human existence, acknowledged by two profound thinkers: Friedrich Nietzsche and the Buddha. While both recognized suffering as fundamental, their perspectives diverge on its interpretation and response. This article delves into their respective views on suffering, exploring key points and supporting details to elucidate their philosophies. **Nietzsche's Perspective** Nietzsche, drawing from personal experience of illness and isolation, viewed suffering as a transformative force. He contended that enduring great pain forces individuals to plumb their depths, shedding superficial layers to reveal profound insights. Suffering, to Nietzsche, was not merely endured but embraced as a necessary catalyst for growth and self-realization. **Attitudes towards Suffering: Strong vs. Weak** Nietzsche categorized responses to suffering into two archetypes: the strong and the weak. The strong confront suffering as a challenge to be overcome, deriving strength and nobility from adversity. In contrast, the weak perceive suffering as insurmountable, seeking refuge in self-annihilation and denial. He emphasized that one's attitude towards suffering shapes its impact, either fostering growth or perpetuating weakness. **Will to Power: Driving Force of Existence** Central to Nietzsche's philosophy is the concept of the "will to power," the driving force behind all human endeavors. He posited that life is propelled by the urge to assert power and creativity, manifesting in various forms including artistic expression and philosophical inquiry. Suffering, according to Nietzsche, arises when this will to power is thwarted, necessitating a transformative response. **Buddha's Perspective** The Buddha, rooted in the ancient Indian tradition, approached suffering from a different angle. He identified craving as the root cause of suffering, asserting that attachment to desires perpetuates the cycle of dissatisfaction and rebirth. Through his teachings, he aimed to liberate beings from this cycle by transcending craving and attaining Nirvana, a state beyond suffering and existence. **Understanding Dukkha: The Buddhist Notion of Suffering** In Buddhism, suffering is encapsulated by the term "dukkha," which encompasses not only pain but also the inherent unsatisfactoriness of conditioned existence. The Buddha attributed dukkha to craving, the ceaseless pursuit of sensory pleasures and worldly pursuits. Liberation from suffering, he argued, necessitates the relinquishment of craving and attachment. **Comparing Will to Power and Craving** Despite differing terminology, Nietzsche's will to power shares parallels with the Buddhist concept of craving. Both posit an underlying drive motivating human behavior, albeit with distinct implications. Nietzsche's will to power embodies creative expression and self-assertion, whereas the Buddha's craving represents attachment and delusion. **Pathways to Transformation: Nietzsche vs. Buddhism** Nietzsche advocated for the cultivation of strength and resilience in the face of suffering, viewing it as a catalyst for personal growth. In contrast, Buddhism prescribes a path of renunciation and mindfulness, guiding practitioners towards liberation from craving and the cessation of suffering. Despite divergent methods, both philosophies offer pathways to transcendence and self-realization. **Finding Common Ground** While Nietzsche and the Buddha approached suffering from distinct philosophical frameworks, they converge on the transformative potential of adversity. Both emphasize the importance of confronting suffering with courage and wisdom, transcending individual limitations to attain higher states of consciousness. **Conclusion** In conclusion, Nietzsche and the Buddha offer profound insights into the nature of suffering and human existence. Through their respective philosophies, they invite us to confront adversity with resilience and introspection, recognizing suffering as a catalyst for growth and enlightenment. Ultimately, their teachings underscore the universal quest for transcendence and liberation from the cycle of suffering.

I like it. I love the artwork. I've often thought that Buddha had some similarities with Nietzsche, but also with the Stoics. And also with Lau Tzu. I'm one of those guys that sees the similarities - thus I suffer from recognition bias or confirmation bias. Some folks emphasize the differences in lieu of the similarities, and thus are born challenging discussions. I just re-read this and I am not happy with level of my incompetence. Please forgive me.

Grateful Simeon for another excellent video. 🙏🙏🙏

Wonderful video as always, thank you. Perhaps I am wrong. But think ascetics don't see the world as illusionary. Only the internal facsimile of the world that our mind generates, to quantify everything, that is. He was a very brilliant man, nonetheless. Its sad he had to go through so much turmoil.

Turn up the fire or contemplate the fire? Personally, I find that when you examine your inner perception of the fire; at first it intensifies, but then you arise stronger.

All things that raised,all those things vanished=Suffered. Mind presents " feel suffering" or " unpleasant".

The serpent friend around the eagle's neck described in: Thus Spake Zarathustra, was a naga...

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Could the "Will to Power" be similar to Freuds "Death Drive", I think so! "Those whom deny the body, become denial embodied" Lacan Can you do a video on Hegel and the Buddha, please!

Same coin flip side. 🤗🦋👵✨

It wasn't nothingness that the buddha explained but emptiness of a self. Emptiness is the key. When you understand that it is the ocean of nirvana. The ocean of potentiality based on quantum mechanics that drives the samsara world of causation. By not understanding your craving and desires you feed the potentiality of becoming. The middle way us to understand this.

I never liked Nietzsche's writings on 'the will to power'. Seeing it put in this perspective gives me a better appreciation for it.

Expansion vs Contraction

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You are right Nietzsche approach to suffering is different than the buddha. The buddhas approach was non intellectual. It was based on training the mind through jhana or absolute samadhi meditation. I know what i know through direct experience and a deep understanding of quantum mechanics. Read some of my other replies.

Also. It isn't the intellect that will understand this. Learn to meditate, especially absolute samadhi meditation. It will teach you to let go of thinking and thoughts and experience the beauty of stillness and non becoming.

Could Nirvana be, in some way, be compared to the realm of the "prime mover" of Aristotle? A realm of only pure actuality, no transition from potentiality to actuality, only pure actuality... In Ocidental and religious ocidental terms, would Nirvana be compared to the direct experience of Aquina's and Aristotle interpretation of God?

The weak and the strong; something clever and something wrong.

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Another funny thing is the way of liberation is no liberation. Get your mind around that

Nothing is ever permanent. Even death is never permanent. Things will improve. 8,200 years ago Lord Shiva tried to teach the local humans around the Armanath Temple. This is where the idea of keeping a cow for nourishment like milk, yoghurt and cheese comes from. This is why cows are like a totem animal for Indians. The earth is a prison planet. The earth is the final solution, much like the final solution in WWII Germany. Unfortunately, the gods of Armanath Temple had no clue of what was happening and the btemple was destroyed, the occupants given amnesia and they , Lord Shiva too, inhabit human bodies today. The spirit of Lord Shiva, Parvati, Ganesha and Bhairava are in human bodies just like you were also a god, but it was normal for all of us to have had our power. Now it’s normal to pretend we die, to pretend we’re happy living here. Time to stop pretending, and let’s plan an escape from here. The greatest fear of Yahweh was that we would be able to return home. That’s why he reinforces the commands to Moses in the tablets. So we will continue to live in our state of spiritual amnesia. Good luck to you. Be kind.

The Maitreya started in life with a mother and a half sister only most poor. The Supreme Buddha imo was a privileged person who truly faced no real true suffering as the second Buddha has. All is nothing, the nothing is all o am the Bodhisattva Maitreya

The weak seek ever more. The human knows more is never enough being filled by what is.

How can u say when u look u had so much insight on Buddha says the ancient Indian sage while he was born in Nepal Lumbini.

Ughh, I guess I haven't to figure it out 🙄.

@seekertoseeker I'm from Nepal. There is no such thing as ancient India. There were Indus Valley civilizations. Within which there were many small kingdoms. Calling Siddhartha Gautama Buddha an ancient Indian sage is like calling all Nepalese Indians. It must be a mistake on your part because you may be reading many old Western Buddhist books. In buddhas time also Nepal was never a part of Ancient India nor now. Nepal fought for 2 years with the East India Company to remain an independent country. Therefore it's very raciest to call Nepalese Indians. It hurts the sentiments of Nepalese and maybe Buddha because he was the prince of Kapilvastu which is currently in Nepal. It is very rude to call Nepalese Indian sage. Because our genes are different.

Buddha was from nepal, not an ancient indian sage

Happy April Fools Day.

Don’t care.

Bruv Buddha ain't from India tho, he from Nepal....c'mon man gotta do sum research

A lot of mumbo jumbo Deepak Chopra style.

It seems like only by desensitizing ourselves to pain, is pain overcome. We no longer "suffer", but traumatized into numbness.

Stupid comparison…

Thanks

Grateful Simeon for another excellent video.🙏🙏🙏