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For madoka it's a bit diffrent. So first the Magia Record mobile game not only shows us that the Law of Cycles is a multiversal entity, that didn't recreate the multiverse, but some of the inner workings of the Law of Cyles. The extended universe(manga, mobile games, side stories) gives us infomation to use as context for a hidden scene in rebellion. At the start of the movie we can faintly hear madoka whispering in the behind Homura, something that needed to be ripped in order to understand what's she's saying. What madoka is saying in this scene is a rumor that will create and act as a bases for the Law of cycles(LoC). In Magia record(MR), which was in production at the same time as Rebellion, we learn of things called Uwasa, creaters made from rumors that has the ability to fuse with a magical girl. This tells us that LoC is an Uwasa created from madoka's wish fused with Madoka, forming Madokami(fandom's name for god madoka). Making Madokami a bit like a mech with Madoka in control while LoC is everything else. MR also tells us that only those with a clear mental image/understanding of the person can separate them from the Uwasa once fused. As for Homura her story is explained in the Wraith arc manga, which is required reading to understand Homura's actions and the power to become the devil. To explain, Homura's loops didn't only effect Madoka, and Sayaka to a far lesser extent, but Homura herself. But she was unable to use the potential that she built up as she already made a wish, effectivly level capping herself. When Madoka rewrote the universe, Homura was able to use some of the potential she built up for a second wish( a feeling and not put into words). One to not let her forget about madoka, giving her a bow as a weapon and memory magic. at the end of the Wraith arc manga she puts her second wish words she gaings her wings we see at the end of the anime and a new power. A power to become as strong as she needs to be to fight Madoka's enemies, an autoscaler basiclly. Homura using her second wish and her build up potential(100 loops, several ties/connection to LoC and Madoka, being a trap for Madoka, and splitting Madoka from LoC) she was able to ascend into a concept just like Madoka, though without fusing with an Uwasa. with the only thing taken from LoC being madoka herself.
Hey friend! I love your videos very much thank you! I wanted to put forward the best answer to why there is evil that I have come across. Simply put, the world is of opposites, high needs low in order to exist, with out light there is no separation for dark, and for good and evil, how could you know what is good if there is nothing to contrast it with? This is the teaching from the Tao De Ching if you ever want to read deeper into this philosophy! Sonny Boy also has the best take too! If we are not programmed with a purpose and are free to make our own, that means evil is possible as much as good!
Wow this is a great video I think you can make a part with more examples of Gods in anime With series such as Full metal Alchemist, Hellsing,Higurashi and Berserk
Man, Canute's developement from timid boy to fearless leader is one of the most intriguing things in the series. "Every father loves his own child." - There are layers to what he says here, I think. With regard to God, the little cracks in his belief system seem to grow bigger. He lashes out at the priest because he simply voiced out loud what may have been brewing inside Canute's own head. What I see in him at that point is denial because his statement creates conflict - what about his own father, the king? He is aware that his father sent him out to die. So where is this "fatherly love" he spoke of? Canute knows what love is, as he received love from Ragnar while he never received affection from his own father. Thus he draws the conclusion that fathers can be cruel, and I think that is what sets him onto the path of rebelling against God. Canute’s father, who set him up to fail, can be paralleled with God, whose trials are too difficult for humans to overcome. The collapse of Canute's belief system later clears his view for a new understanding of love and a new philosophy. Man, what a character!
@@arnowisp6244 From Canute's perspective, I'd say he thinks the trials are too difficult to overcome, because the goal God set for humans is unattainable. There is too much hatred and discrimination, the kind of pure and equal love for the world and every human being is impossible to obtain.
@@arnowisp6244 true, we humans are given so much to overcome said trials, they just don't wanna put the effort, they don't wanna put their blood, tears and sweat into completing said trials, so others just give up and curl up In their own little world complaining that the world is tough.
A series that I feel encapsulates this video that is missing is the When They Cry. Higurashi the underneath layer deals with fighting and protecting god and Umineko is breaking free from being god’s plaything. Also also given your love for Homura it’d love for you to get to know Rika Fuurde/Fredrika Bernkastel who are broken mirror copies of each other
When I saw the title I could help but think about Youjo Senki and the protagonist’s inspiringly spiteful rejection of a god who shows themself to be real. It brings the idea of persisting against seemingly impossible odds and getting by through reliance on your own true mind, to center stage. There’s just something about that idea of individual choice in a life which, though not predetermined, is so easily manipulated by a higher being.
@@arnowisp6244 I suppose that the god of the Yoko Senki universe is a clearly malevolent/cruel/just completely indifferent to humans entity, at least from the human standpoint. A good example of such struggle against a cruel/uncaring God is the story of Guts from Berserk. Yes, the same can be argued about the Abrahamic God, but I'm talking something that basically leaves no room for doubt, except for that in our own ability to comprehend the world at any level and the notions of good/evil, love/hate, benevolence/malevolence themselves. As far as I remember, theodicy arguments may oftentimes employ the notion of our mental faculties being inadequate/unable to comprehend the true nature of God, true meaning and implications of his most defining predicates/attributes of omnipotence, omniscience and omnibenevolence; they typically avoid hanging on that ground entirely. I haven't watched YS, though, so I'm not sure.
I love this type of questioning of a concept, and it's so fking good that you compiled multiple aspects of this from different animes into one video. definitely a format I love
I think its important to question the things surrounding us, to make sure we're always heading in the right direction. It's something I'm glad other people enjoy, my brain forces me to do it 🤣
The answer to suffering I find convincing is that humanity rebelled and the universe was watching. The questions raised, was God right, could only be convincingly answered by allowing us to fail. Man can't rule himself.
@@lornajames it's more along the lines of if we listened, things would have been fine, but because humans rebelled, he's not going to help to the extent he would have. There's also the explicit promise to heal anyone that doesn't want any part of the rebellion, once the rebellion has failed. So basically humans said "we can do better" and God said "show me, btw, if it doesn't work out, I'll fix what you mess up"
Within the intro of the video and as I continue to watch it, I’m hearing more of the same naive arguements I’ve heard before. Arguements coming from people who’ve never actually read the Bible, had their views too screwered by the Church, or simply ignorant of what theologians and religious philosophers such as Carl Jung say about it. But I will continue watching. After all, even as a Christian I enjoy delving views and beliefs that challenge my own and looking into morally ambiguous stories. Because exposing myself to these stories and views have actually in a sense increased my faith in a benevolent God because I was exposed to counter arguements to these kinds of philosophies. But I also enjoy the fact that sometimes some of these philologies provide valid points, and I have questions and concerns that I am still waiting and looking to resolve. But I don’t have doubts anymore.
This was super well made and really thought provoking. Thank you so much for making such great content! The usage of so many different series and the tying together of their themes with the different schools of thought about deities was superb, please keep it up!
The english dub of Gurren Lagann is the first anime I ever watched, and core philosophy there is a driving force for me to keep moving forward, no matter what. There's way too much semantics in the world for me to want to take part in things I don't value. If it's not important to me and it's holding me back, I will fight against it. If the opposite's true, i'll go straight towards it unless it becomes something bad. When the going gets too smart, the smart get more dumb. It's the best way forward in a imformation dense world, yeah?
One of my favorite is from Preacher. God just gave up to play ski-ball. So simple, but also hurts so much. Just got too bored with the position and decided to play a child's game.
In my opinion, the best solution to the problem of evil is what Nietzsche says about suffering. Nietzsche believed that suffering is not a negative thing, nor should we seek to avoid or abolish suffering. Rather, suffering is what allows man to achieve greatness, as only by overcoming and pushing through suffering can we become an improved version of ourselves. People who spend their lives seeking to avoid or minimize their suffering simply won't get anywhere, to accomplish great things requires courage, which means confronting the inevitable suffering of life. It can even be said that it's the people who spend their lives not fulfilling their potential out of the fear of suffering who suffer the most from the harshest forms of suffering: depression and mental illness. The most straight-forward example of this is working out. Exercise and dieting is a lot of suffering, it's only by willingly undergoing this suffering that we can improve our health and appearance. That's not to say there isn't any enjoyment in these activities, but there will always be a certain level of suffering you have to go through. The same goes for learning any skill or performing any job, to improve at any task requires work and suffering (although hopefully you enjoy the activity enough where it isn't purely suffering). Kicking an addiction also entails a lot of suffering, but the rewards of achieving this are obvious. Our animal instincts tell us to do whatever we can to avoid immediate suffering and seek only pleasures, but as rational beings with infinite potential, we have to recognize suffering as a necessary and good force. In the classical hero's journey story structure, the hero always has to overcome a monster or villain to achieve some improvement in his life, there is no virtue if he were just handed his reward without having to overcome anything. It's the same thing for each of us confronting life's suffering. While I don't believe in God, if I did this is what I'd view as the reason for evil, and therefore the reason that God could be truly good despite our imperfect universe.
Great video, man! But I do not agree with what you said in the 'Madoka Magica" part of the video. Homura does not become a witch because of grief for losing Madoka. At the end of the series Homura is quite happy with the way things turned up, even if Madoka is no longer human. In the end, Homura did manage to save Madoka at the end of the series. In "Rebellion", we see that Homura has the witch state triggered from inside her Soul Gem after she was placed inside that special cage the Incubators made. Madoka never removed the system where Soul Gems become dark after using magic power, so it's safe to assume that inside the Incubator's cage, Homura's Soul Gem could not get cleansed using Wraith Cubes (or whatever it was that dropped from killing Wraiths in the Post-Godaka world) - the Soul Gem followed its natural course and darkened, but it didn't turn into a Grief Seed because of the Cage Homura's body and Soul Gem were placed inside of. Other statements I consider wrong was "Madoka was kind to everyone, Homura to none. Madoka was hope, Homura was pessimism." Quite the contrary: there were timelines when Homura was kind and friendly to everyone, especially in the beginning (probably the first 50 time loops). Apart from Madoka, Kyouko was Homura's best friend in other timelines. Homura never truly went along that great with Mami and especially Sayaka, but that never meant she hated them. Also, Homura is in fact the embodiment of Hope in the series: the nature of her wish forced her to be that way. Homura had to believe she can save Madoka, she had to find a way to prevent Madoka's death - that was her only escape from the loop. If Homura doubted herself for a second, doubted the fact that she would succeed in rescuing Madoka, that meant she would reject her wish, and it would have turned her into a witch on the spot. You see this happening in the last episode of the series, where Homura begins to doubt and her Soul Gem on her hand quickly starts turning dark. The wish the girls make to form the contract is by far the most important element. It's not a trade for their lives, but the trigger that causes them to go witch once the wish is rejected. The Soul Gem has 2 ways of turning into a Grief Seed: 1. Natural Timer that needs to be extended via contact with a Grief Seed (once the timer reaches 0, it's witch time). I like to consider Soul Gems to be similar to a time bomb - overuse of magical abilities greatly increases the speed at which the Soul Gem's time runs out. 2. The girls need to regret the wish they made. While despair is another element that greatly increases the speed at which the Soul Gem darkens, it is only when rejecting/regretting the wish they made that the girls turn witch.
Wait, go back. That bit about the arguments that can be used for Problem of Evil, having flaws. What are they? What are those flaws? Like Free Will being the answer to the Problem of Evil, what's the flaw in it? Or the reference needed to be be good, is to know that evil is a thing that exist, and thus avoid it? Etc.
The Vinland Saga example contains its own answer to the question it poses. If God had simply fixed everything, Knut would have remained passive and refused to make change. By instead making Knut aware through negative example the price of refusing to use the power Knut had for a positive purpose for the rest of Knut's life and making a living example to emulate for others in a continuing generational way. In short in this example the gods don't usually solve problems, they usually hand the tools down to people to solve the problem themselves.
The idea that the way to reject a corrupt state of being, is to be selfish, always confused me. Isn't it selfishness which makes the world corrupt to begin with?
Just stumbled upon this video and had a great time with it! so much to think about, a perspective I (as an X-cradle-Catholic) have never considered but found fascinating!
This is a very well-thought-out video; you were able to put deep and difficult philosophical points in such clear terms. Thank you! One quick thought: have you read the Mistborn Trilogy (by Brandon Sanderson)? If so, I'm curious your thoughts on it. If not, I highly recommend; It's great fantasy and, not only is it entertaining, but the trilogy as a whole also tells a very interesting and unique story about gods, what they are, and how to fight them
Hey man I’m just happy that you like the fact we care. Just thank you man. Can’t really keep saying that enough but you got it and if I miss one I just missed I’ll catch it sooner or later and like it then b
Look at that, with each video ya get more and more polished! As I said in the past watching you shine diamond in the rough :D! I am an atheist. I don't fight god or life I just go through it and fight when I must, once in a while it brings nice things :D Like your videos.
I feel the god of 3 o's isn't a true God, more an imitation born of Humanities prayers for salvation, a true God would be one that is all powerful and all knowing, but limiting it to being all good makes it a paradoxical entity, rather the fact that God would even bat an eye to us is just as, if not even more absurd, it's like a human paying attention to ants or rocks for all of their life, sure some may do that but that's because that's what they're limited to, God can create new ants or even rip space asunder, and to limit God to a personality is also absurd, if you take all knowing literally he knows all that has, is and will happen, he wouldn't give a crap about anything. if God does exist then he is our slave and we are his torturers, to give birth to a being unable to die and forced to be everything, for he exists forever and can never experience something he doesn't already know about. In trying to humanize God we just make him suffer and for us to allow him freedom of self is to condemn us to his rules, God can't exist because he wouldn't want to, if humans suffer he will fell their pain and the pleasure of inflicting pain on them, God cannot be God without also being the Devil, good would be nothing without evil etc. P.s. the only thing God can't lift is nothing, because their is nothing to lift God can't lift it
This depends on what you think is good or evil getting past how much that action wouldn't work is it even beneficial to begin with? Would the human spirit even want that change? I fail to see it
From the religious point. Why do such pains exist? Heaven is and eternall bliss and if you can retain yourself in this world of ours, and dont do evil. You have earned a place there It's a test. That's how I see. From that point.
I just think if it's possible to create a place like that, then we should already exist in it. Why give us the conditions to be evil, and then punish us for falling to them, when a world without those conditions exists?
@@thepolishlithuaniancommonw8986 True. Without experience, we would be repeating the same mistake like Adam and Eve. We'd be curious. Someone would be bound to do it at some point just out of curiosity
The Problem with the Omnipotence Paradox is that It's built on a Humans Understanding of what Omnipotence looks like. And we are beings that is not Omnipotent. I realised some time ago is that our Idea of Omnipotence is too small. Too Limiting in a Paradoxical way. Due to how we ourselves are not Omnipotent, we cannot visualize Actual Omnipotence. Also, it would be foolish to think because we cannot comprehend it that it doesn't exist. There are a lot of things we know exist but cannot comprehend. Actual Omnipotence has no reason to conform to what we humans think it works.
Just to clarify, I never stated something didn't exist because we couldn't comprehend it, I just stated that we may not be able to, and as such, how does that change how we act in respect to a diety
Something about Homura's ascension to godhood to match Madoka's that didn't seem to get mentioned is that while Madoka seems to be seen as an embodiment of goodness, and then Homura her opposite, in another way Madoka actually embodies _death,_ while Homura ends up embodying _life._ Madoka largely acts as a psychopomp, carrying away the souls of Magical Girls when they die so they don't turn into witches, meanwhile... well, Rebellion has a _negative death count._ In addition to just bringing Nagisa, Sayaka, and Madoka back to life, she also seemingly makes them mortal humans again, so they're not even UNdead anymore either. Given that becoming a Magical Girl is often treated as akin to already dying, this would then extend to Homura's actions over the original series, where her whole objective was to prevent Madoka from dying, and then later from becoming a Magical Girl at all. Prior to Rebellion, Homura's witch was even known as the "Witch of the Mortal World," ie _world of the living_ (from which Homura also borrows her weapons).
@Ggnkrsfkoqxbk Absolutely. Homulilly's title of "Witch of the Mortal World" is specifically for a pre-Madokami Homulilly, while Homura was still looping.
28:41 Small correction - Light wouldn't die from these gunshots. He can see Light's lifespan (it accounts for every non-Notebook death, not just natural) and he said sitting with Light in prison would be a bother.
i'm glad i started following your content, because no matter the subject you manage to make it interesting and deep, this one hits the mark just like the others, thanks for putting out another fantastic video
When I saw the title of the video I started thinking of Madoka Magica: Rebellion and how Homura become Devil itself to get God itself, Madoka for herself. I was happy to hear that it was covered in the video and in an intriguing way. Homura is the villain of the story technically. But her utopia doesn't sounds beautiful and scary at the same time. Many would like to see it happen and the repercussions of it in a hopefully future movie that should continue or even end their story.
I do enjoy that the world she creates is essentially one of blissful ignorance for everyone but her. If they're willing to be lied to, they can simply be happy and exist, as it seems to happen with Sayaka. That'll definitely be an interesting premise moving forward
Many of your videos have helped me to look inward and organize myself and my thoughts about many subjects. That said, this one hasn't made me introspective so much as its sparked some creative juices in my head and made me excited to pursue a story I'd been meaning to write. Be it a book or whatever, I'm not sure, but I want to thank you regardless.
I think thats what this one more was for me too. It started with me imagining my own story about a failed god, and I wanted to see how others had done so. So, I think that's very fitting for this one!
I had watched Vinland Saga some time ago and I've recently begun my process of being involved in my local Quaker group. Knut now seems a bit more relatable on a sort of religious or faith-related layer for me. The idea or desire to want to immanentize something like God's Kingdom (or a much more benevolent or good society) isn't rare in religious thought and history, but being able to talk with Quakers about their perspective with this view has been enlightening. Knut coming to realize he has to be active is certainly some thing other groups should realize (tho, arguably with a much more progressive lens...)
I think Berserk has a pretty interesting concept of God "The Idea of Evil" Basically humanity due to the harshness of reality,needed an explanation for all the suffering of the world And thus collectively through the power of belief they created an entity which embodies "EVIL" in other words people created a malevolent God Who in turn served humanity,by creating monsters and sending them into the real world.Thus giving people a phisical explanation for all pain and suffering It's this cycle Humans Birthed the Ide of Evil The Idea of Evil Created the Godhand The Godhand Creates Apóstoles Apóstoles bring fear and suffering to the world, which feeds the idea of evil
I would have loved if you gave more emphasis to the spiral nemesis in gurren lagann's case. It is the most incomprehensible thing, something you can not avoid no matter how much you try when you try to use spiral power without limit. The threat of the spiral nemesis is always there and that is what drove the anti-spirals to be the tyrants that they were. I would argue you can very much understand what anti-spirals wanted to do. If the spiral nemesis didn't exist i doubt they would have gone to such extremes because there wouldn't be something that can destroy everything to prevent. Simon understands the existence of this threat, despite that though he chooses to go against the anti-spirals because he thinks that the spiral race can follow the best but most difficult route: that of self-responsibility. This is why at the end he says "Don't worry, humanity is not that foolish". That is the reason he chooses not to abuse his tremendous spiral power and fade away at the end, letting others like rossiu who are better fitted to manage things. Only when a great threat would appear, would he also come to help but there was no need for that.
The 'beating a God through the act of creation, creating a thing that can beat God' really reminds me of the story and lore of La Mulana. The Mother, a godlike being that fell from space, creates life in an attempt to return to the stars. However, time and time again, each new species fails to return her to the stars as she desires and so she wipes them out. Because the task is impossible; the entire game map of La Mulana that you go through IS the Mother's shattered body, barely connected through twisted geometry that makes no sense and outright impossible space. Eventually, one species realizes this and makes humanity, who lacks the incredibly powers and capabilities of the species before them but lacks knowledge of the Mother as well as the restraints the Mother produced lifeforms have preventing them from harming her, allowing them the capacity as well as the means to finally put the Mother down before the wipes out life and starts it over anew once more.
@@ProfessorViral I really do recommend going and taking a look into La Mulana, both as a retro-esque platformer and as a setting with some interesting lore. Also you get to kill god, The Mother, twice. She gets a salty runback.
Evil exists because without it, good becomes mundane. You cannot have a wholesome, feel-good story if everything is a wholesome, feel-good story. If a child is given everything they want while growing up, they will believe that this is normal, that they deserve everything. I short, they will be spoiled. They will not experience joy when given a gift, it will merely stave off dissatisfaction. If everything is good, good things will lose their value and become mundane. If nobody ever experienced pain, people would just assume that they deserve everything good, and that they can do nothing wrong. This would most likely result in this person themselves becoming evil. TL:DR, If there is no pain or evil, good things will become painful and evil.
The concept of gods in the Xeno series is one of my favorite examples. Klaus/Zanza in Xenoblade is a very interesting example since his personality becomes split, one is almost all powerful and all knowing, but only cares that the world fits his image and he is blinded by hubris, but is eventually destroyed by own creations. He is powerful enough to create a being capable of destroying him. On the other side the architect lacks the confidence and knowledge to do what he should, and only by meeting his creations and having his doubt somewhat dispelled by them is he able to fix things in the end, thus allowing the world to continue existing.
Vinland Saga: 6:00 the book of Ecclesiastes (bible project), that is what comes to mind. 8:00 This is what come to mind. >1 Corinthians 10 :13 "13 No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it." 8:20 book of job (bible project) 8:55 romans 5:1-11 "Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we[a] have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we[b] boast in the hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only so, but we[c] also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4 perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us. 6 You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7 Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! 10 For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! 11 Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation." 10:00-10:23 Ironically Enough, it sounds like He Failed the test.... 10:44 Again, Ironically, it seems like he Finally steps into he's purpose 10:57 Um, that's NOT How salvation works, form the anime clips, it seems about the question is to the Christian God, since there is crosses and one with a crucified Jesus on them. i have not seen Vinland Saga but i'm sure since it's from japan and a anime, it was not made by Christians or rather was there any Christians involve with the story or biblical things, i don't think so, many anime are just humans who are not Christians asking questions/presenting a narrative so i assume the same with Vinland Saga, the only thing i know about this anime are from the clips Viral has show and what he said about it. it dose seem intreating, it may be on my with list some time later Ego Proxy: this is on my watch list so no spoilers lol i hope i can come back to this after i finish watching it when ever that is. Lain: 23:07 Look up The Trinity Explained InspiringPhilosophy 24:32 1 john 4:19 (19 We love because he first loved us.) Death Note: 29:22 The Kind god John 3 8:-21 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”[d] 9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked. 10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? 11 Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man.[e] 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,[f] 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”[g] 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God. The kind god has sent someone to us (The holy spirit) John 16:7-15 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned. 12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. 15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.” Fate/Zero: 31:42 PROVERBS 6:16-19 proverbs 8:13 Psalm 11 Psalm 73 31:57 - 34:19 Isaiah 43:7 7 everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made.” Ephesians 1:3-14 1 Timothy 3:15 Revelation 4:11 Gurren lagann: 2 Kings 6:15-17 John 1:14 Exodus 20:1-21 Deuteronomy 5:6-21 John 1:1-18 MADOKA !!!!!!!! i LOVE MADOKA MAGICA: I AM by Theocracy i think this song actually explains it pretty well, but here is another bible vers Matthew 25:31-46 Revelation 22:13 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End." don't be the opposite of god that is being satan (He "Likes" kids..), god is what is good and Right Satan and he's children are Evil and wrong, god can brake you free from that tho and make you he's. ill leave you with The good news on how 1 Corinthians 15:1-8
It’s a shame that he doesn’t engage with these kinds of comments much. I guess he just assumes that you’ll be arrogant and won’t listen to reason. A huge counter argument that I’ve thought about that makes his arguments from the entire first half of the video fall apart, are ones from C.S. Lewis on his book called the problem of pain. This guy is incredibly mistaken on what omnipotence and divine goodness means, especially if you look into that book.
I love these videos and can't wait for more dude. I don't get to talk much about stuff like this in my day to day life, so hearing someone talk about it is really nice ^-^
Just as cold does not exist, but is merely the absence of heat; evil too, does not exist. It is simply the absence of good, the good that is, God. Mankind is by default, without God. Separate from him. Thus, we are evil. Left alone to suffer through temptation and be victimized by others who've fallen. The only way to be truly good is to know god and follow his guidance. The flaw of man is not doing so. It is the consequence of pride in oneself. Not a consequence of free will but a result of choosing wrong. All free will is, is the choice between yourself and god. Every other choice anyone has made or will make, is rooted in this choice. Choose what you believe is best for you? Or what god knows is best for you and everyone? Too many have chosen wrong. That is why this world and the people living on it, suffer.
My brain hurts watching this ....... i should watch it few more times .... anime is the medium which i love to use for learning about philosophy and religion .... im gonna go back to the playlist and have a mini existential crisis now .... happy holidays and god bless 😄
I feel like its a bit of a miss to not have focused more on Thorfinn's journey in Vinland Saga here (atleast as far as what's been seen in the adaptation). Very poignant messaging in his experience and how a kid put through such a life could reconcile with the idea of there even being a God. Far more so than Canute.
I think he isnt becoming god really, but he finds belief in himself along with the dream he inhereted , which is related to god, but i think he does the healthy that he does not need a god to follow his belief. But its still about his faith along with growing as person. Which i like, that faith can help a lot, but even if thr i a god, you shoulsnt rely on him/them to like your faith but yourelf first , and tryto not make enemies along if you can avoid it. Whatever that is. Whenever it involves any god. Which i think i the correct anwer. Aside that god i a very nebulous concept and fighting god when that are alway jut forces in any mythology, that mostly jut eist, why having to fight them, you dont hav to worship them, but dont have to fight them neither (not to say its bad to do so with harmful beliefs, good actually) Hell even gurren laggan has something to say about believes, believe in the kamina that believes in you, belive in the simon that believe in you, believe is not portrait as bad at all, even ghost kamina reapears, and that believ ultimately shape whatwe manifests somewhat. That its oh to nee help to believe yourself and believe in others for that, but the goal is to b able to believe in yourself. Ok a bit is my personal opinion, but gurren laggan also is about belief. And thorfin gets religiou but about working hard fo the change without making enemis or forc others, but still challenging them. Even with ryonosuke it has an interesting meta story. like urobutcher ha the reputation to be dark, but its talking about his own reason why. And that ryonosukes voice actor at first wa repulsed by the role, but then found the meaning to play the awful part entertaining forenjoyent and challenge the good to make it shine more. I have no idea i thats what th scene plans, but it eplains the surprising moving performance, and urobutchi adressing his reputation as writer.
@@marocat4749 And I know you aren't interested in any good faith discussion. It's typical to people like you. Also, it is healthy for people to have God in their belief.
The thing is, by trying to fight God with kindness, he passed God's test, the test isn't suffering in of itself but it's trying to to live as a good person regardless of the evil that took over the world, the prince's test was to for him to use his power as a royalty to better the world around him,God didn't make the test hard it's man who made it hard on himself, it's not God who made the world so harsh and cruel, humans did, and frankly it's no problem how hard god's test is, when the reward is Heaven itself
I really enjoy these deep talk moments you put out here. I hope Ill be able to support you a bit more in the future. At this time there still is a lot of challenges to meet, before that kind of stabillity sts in. But thank you so much once more, for these shared Minutes of ondering. Y´all, have a great Time
Hey! Just heads up, in your intro you have russian word “Павловна”. It is women’s paternal name, commonly associated with old ladies. P.S. love the content!
Yep, all the information on screen there are easter eggs to some of my favorite series, and that one is for Balalaika, or Sofiya Pavlovna, from Black Lagoon!
@@ProfessorViral Especially if said God was a highschool girl? (Was trying to hint at a certain, in my humble opinion, masterpiece). But the philosophical approach from your comment is also a good way to start a discussion on that series 😁
As a kid, one of my friends lent me a game called Black & White, which was a real time strategy game, but also a god simulator in the sense that it put the player in the role of the god who was responsible for the rise or demise of their worshippers. The measure of power was (as far as I remember) how many believers you had, with certain structures and deeds lowering or raising the faith of the worshippers. I like that angle on it a lot - a god only being as powerful as the faith in them, with them maybe even ceasing to exist as nobody believes anymore. Seeing as I dropped off religion a long time ago - being told your handicap from birth was either a test or punishment from god will do that - I like to live by that metric. I deny that a god (specifically christian in my case) could exist given my situation and the state of the world. Going by the above videogame logic, it's directly "fighting god" but it also actively keeps me away from negative thoughts regarding my existence, since you cannot resent what does not exist. It's less something I actively pursue and more a state of mind I someday decided to let myself fall into, because I'm more at peace that way. I've been told it's nonsensical, that "deciding to believe/not believe" is impossible, but it's just something for me; I don't push it on anybody else. Besides, nonsensical is the Guren Lagann way, and I love that show.
One argument/perspective I think you overlooked, and perhaps tragically so, is the Theodicy "Reconciling Suffering With Theism" (Aka. RST). Boiling it down to the simplest possible definition, is states that "God desires above all *willing* worship." This is the basis upon which the world was built, sin was allowed to enter it, and the fulfillment of prophecy through Jesus Christ completed. If the worship God desires is to have any value, a person must be *able* to choose to *not* worship. Adam & Eve were given the choice to obey (Abstain from eating of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil), or to disobey (Re: Sin), and through their Original Sin, suffering was introduced into the world, as a natural consequence of violating the directives of God, and withholding their worship and obedience from him, through their own will. The very will God gave them with the intent of receiving the *willing* worship of His creations. The angels that surround the Throne of Glory don't have the will to choose not to worship. The animals that fill the earth don't have the will to act in any other way except their design. Humans are the only creatures on the Earth that have the ability to choose to, or not to, worship, the worship that God created humans to provide, the worship of a willing heart. While I realize that many people do not put much stock in the veracity of the Bible, in the passage 1 Samuel 15:22, God (Through his prophet Samuel) pretty clearly explains His intent and desire; “Does the Lord delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the Lord? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams." If God desires obedience and worship more than sacrifice to make up for failures, can we not therefore infer that God desires willing obedience and worship, rather than offerings to make up for our failures?
I think things are missed on suffering when "why?" is the sole focus. Because if you only look at one source, you're not going to have the right answer because the nature of reality can't be borne on contradiction. Regardless of what text says, what people say common themes do arise with the most common factor being love. A love that can be both hypocritical and compassionate but authentic love nonetheless. As well as kind of the wrong impressions of duality. The opposite of love isn't hate. Hate is the absence or ignorance of love. The opposite of light isn't darkness. What we think of darkness is absence of light. Well until you get more into black holes and have sufficient gravity to bend or suck in light, but even that reaches into the unknown and beyond what science can confirm. So the real question is, "What can we do about suffering?" Regardless if there is a God or not, I believe love is our greatest power to either rebel or act in accordance with an unjust or just God.
Ahhh Gnosticism... So happy anime really likes using Gnostic Sethian/Valentinian symbolism of a lesser God who believes It is the the supreme God (an idea most expressed in Gnosticism but which is largely rooted in Plato's idea of the Demiurge and to some degree in Zoroastrian dualism)
You coild also see Serial Experiment Lain as the process of Ascension. That of a limited and material consciousness evolving into a more expansive, but not infinite. Immaterial consciousness operating as a self-aware part of reality. A sentient operating system of consciousness itself imbued with the experience necessary to establish the task by the act of being one of the individuals within the created world.
I think the old Granny from vandread, And Captain ahab from the scifi moby dick anime both put it best, . It's not a God's duty to speak to people. It's not a God's duty to guide them or to teach them. It is only a god's duty to sit and listen to their prayers. Nothing more nothing else. And it is definitely not a god's duty to ask people to give something of themselves to it. All gods are supposed to do is sit there quietly and watch. And if they don't we tend to usually end up killing them. A god is merely a cosmic level toddler.
Gideon Ofnir thought you needed to fully understand a god to kill it and then never even tries. In the end, the Tarnished asks no questions and stand sword in hand against God in the final moments of Elden Ring.
well the omnipotence paradox is dumb. the idea of something being omnipotent means being able to do anything. ontological contradictions would mean nothing to someone who can anything. there are two arguments against the paradox. one is that the premise itself is flawed. if you're going to get semantic about contradictions, then you're missing the biggest contradiction here, being the impossibility of there being limitation on omnipotence. the other is that the entity could create the unmovable object and then precede to move it anyway because they are boundless and limitless. if they can do anything then they would still be able to do both impossible tasks.
Exactly. Heck, I just came from watching a Video about the Implications of an Infinite Universe. And how in such a Universe, litereally anything becomes possible no matter how small the possibility. You'd eventually be able to see it if you travel far enough in the infinity. The more I watched, the more I realized now that even our Concept of Omnipotence is too small. The Video put into scale the immeasurable scale of the universe. And as I believe God made the Universe, I realized how too small my concept of an Omnipotent God was. Because I didn't actually understand what Omnipotence would mean. In short, I realized our concept of Omnipotence was too small. And the Omnipotence Paradox is built on this small Omnipotence. Actual Omnipotence wouldn't care about Ontological Contradictions. Actual Omnipotence is like Unknowable Knowledge. We can't even imagine it and all the while, It just does it.
To do both Impossible task is what Actual Omnipotence is. Actual Omnipotence is Ineffable. Cannot be put to words due to how extreme it is. And it's perfectly fine for Actual Omnipotence doesn't have to conform to what we humans think.
Light Yagami may have wielded the power of a Death Note, but I can assure you he would have a lot to learn before he had any business calling himself a god.
