been hitting a 120lbs water bag for years and it has conditioned me like no other. Try that. But be prepared to go through stages of progression because at first it will not be easy.
Sand is still the best filling material if you want to develop strength, power, endurance, but mostly it will show you if the way you hold your fist is ok or not when you connect. When the sand becomes too packed, well you do like you did at the start of your video and you remove the bag from its hook and "massage" it while is it on the ground horizontally. That will unpack the sand and you can reuse it as it was just filled right after. Clothes and anything else make the bag too soft and too light for any real benefit imo.
Feel free to use it as in all things, YMMV. That said, understand that arthritis is a common problem with martial artists and erroneous and repetitive high impact training is a great way to get it at an early stage. You'll also only know you've developed it by the time it is too late. Aside from that, there is absolutely no reason why you would be unable to develop strength, power and endurance or even proper technique on a bag filled with cloth. As in, none whatsoever.
My father always said rice was the best filler for heavy bags. More expensive than old clothes or sand but worth it because it has a certain "give" that is similar to hitting a person. Does this sound plausible &/or worth the extra outlay?
Hi, what if you filled a smaller punch bag with small individual plastic bags filled with sand put it inside a larger punch bag and packed the larger one well with clothes etc. so you get the weight without the damage to your hands from the density and some protection via the cloth.
Difficult to make work in the long run. You won't know when the bags have shifted to the surface. Strike the bags and they might burst. Even if they don't burst, you will eventually have an uneven surface and the bags will always tend to sink to the bottom.
When I was a kid, I put foam around a tree abd used it as a punching bag. Not enough give to avoid joint damage if you hit hard. Using cloth around it would be even worse.
Ah, got it. Well, same problem: the cloth will pack and you'll have to refill. Probably more often than if you let the bag swing. Also, you can use anchors to stop the bag from swinging too much. That said, there is nothing wrong with a bag that swings. You're supposed to learn to box around it.
what fillers for heavy punching bags are considered toxic for our health? and which ones are not toxic for our health? I had cancer and beat cancer and don't want to put my health at risk or in danger
You can, but then you have a lot of experimentation to do, because it is bound to be too light for use: type of insulation, thickness, absorbance factor, how long will it last before it loses elasticity, which core to use to increase weight correctly, how to keep the insulation from exposing the core, etc. A lot of work when easier solutions exist, IMO.
@@WimDemeere Well I bought a soft strike heavy bag, decided to remove all the filling and then re-fill it myself… they used shredded clothing and other random materials to fill the bag with, clothes with knots in them, pieces of plastic, chunks of fabrics stuck together, etc. There was also a cylindrical tube filling with sand about midway thru centered around all the stuffing. I noticed the end caps on that looked loose so I reinforced with gorilla tape thoroughly. But yeah I ended up putting a bunch of old cloths, towels, and shirts for the bottom third, then centered that tube, refilled with the shredded cloth that came in/more of my old clothes, and packed all that in as I went. The 2 11 pound sandbags that came with it I just placed at the very top of the bag on top of all the packed filling. I guess what I’m trying to say is that I don’t think the sand bags will be able to work their way down bc it’s packed so tight. It feels like I’m punching a cement wall right now… how long does it take to break in a heavy bag? Lol
@@WimDemeere And the bag is like 105 pounds or so and if I remove the bags it’s around 80. What do you think I should do? I’m wondering if the bags sitting on top is what’s causing it to feel like I’m hitting a wall or if it’s just not broken in yet…
So Thai boxers don't use sand bags Wing chun martial artists don't use sand bags to strike You can mix cloth maize rice with cloth.. You just have to take care of how you punch kick and maintain your bag by rotating it every now and again to event he filling
So kind of an odd idea, but I'm not able to get to a thrift store and I acually just got rid of all my clothes I needed to donate, what I do have a ton of is a ton a cardboard boxes, and I'm hoping I can shred the cardboard I have, and maybe that'll work, I have some a couple sheets I can shred, but mostly what I have for the soft stuff would be my good quilts and blankets that I definitely don't want to shred but are fine being shoved into my punching bag for a while, till I can get into a thrift store to shred some old clothes. Question though, is if anyone's used shredded cardboard, successfully, or if it's too light, idk. I know you said don't use sand but it's all I got to work with, I have about 50lbs in sperate one gallon ziplocs and wrapped in couple layers of duct tape, seems to be perfect so for the main part of the weight.(Im only needing my bag to be about 80lbs, I'm sorta small about a buck 20). My other issue is I'm not sure I have enough blanket's and sheets to go around and fill the rest of my bag. I keep looking at all this cardboard in my shop, thinking it'd be so helpful if I could make it work..but I've found not one person say a word about shredded cardboard for a filler, guessing there's a reason why I don't see anyone using it,lol...idk, what do you think?
Cardboard won't work. It is too light and doesn't absorb the impacts well. Eventually it will be flattened completely and become useless. You can use ziplocked sand as the core for a bag, wrapped well in cloth, but it's tricky to do right. Often it comes loose after prolonged use and you end up with the same issues as a regular sand filled bag. Ask friends, neighbors, family, etc. for old clothes, rags, towels, etc. Ask them to ask their friends, etc. With some luck, you'll have all you need in no time.
What about spray insulation expanding foam with the core of the bag filled with something like pea gravel? Put a greased up tube former inside the centre of the bag, then fill the outer part of the bag with the spray foam, remove the tube former and then fill the centre with pea gravel... just an idea, what you think?
The filled tube idea sounds great, but the expanding foam will break down and become an issue. I would make sure to fill bottom with whatever kind of 'soft' fill that you choose, so that there is no way the tube can slip or migrated down to the extreme bottom of the bag, in a manor that you might kick the bottom of the bag and get injured. I haven't watched the whole video yet, my guess is that Wim's method will be a very good one.
I have an unfilled 300lbs. bag that I'm going to fill. I doubt seriously I could get 300lbs. of fabric in there without having at least 40-80lbs. of sand included. I had thought about stuffing it with only rice also.
So... I decided that punching my old truck isn't good for my wrists long term and got a 40 percent off on a Ringside unfilled heavy bag. It's 16" in diameter and I've seen a few places where guys are getting PVC pipe 6-8" in diameter, capping one end, then centering it in the middle of the bag, packing shredded clothing around the pvc pipe, and finally filling the pipe with sand and capping it. They basically pack things so that the PVC pipe (which is eventually filled with sang) has no way to migrate inside the bag away from the center... then the fill it, cap it, and top it off with more filling... Will this work? And as far as fabric goes, are shredded towels Ok? Or do I want to stick with stuff like cotton shirts and denim?
Meh... I found a cheaper solution... I'm going to go with a a 6" by 48" sonotube wrapped in gorilla tape to go in the core of my bag with 100lbs of sand. And then take the 50lbs fill from a $30 craigslist 80lb beater bag (minus the sand bags from the beater bag) to pack around the perimeter of the sonotube... giving me 100lbs of sand and 50lbs of fabric... I also have 20lbs of shredded memory foam I can mix with the fabric which I think will work well if I take the time to meticulously pack it...
I have a surplus of plastic bags, cardboard boxes, and plastic bottles. Would filling plastic bottles with water (sand maybe for the bottom layer) and then wrap it in plastic bags, cardboard cuttings, and duct tape till it's the right shape and size be alright or would that be bad for long term use?
That can work and some heavy bags use a similar idea. But usually, that's too light, so you might need to place something heavy as a core of the rolled up mattress.
Problem with my heavy bag is that the filling at the top of the bag has migrated to the bottom and now its the bottom overstuffed and feeling like rock. Gravity has played a bad role to my heavy bags all the time. How can I maintain an equal distribution of filling at the top, middle and bottom of the bag ?
If filling drops to bottom, it means you can just use more filling right? But this might be a problem if you don't want it to get heavier? From my understanding if you use textile shreds, you should top it off about 3-4 times every 6-7 sessions or more. Because during the sessions you'll beat the pockets of air out of the bag and gravity will pull what's up down.
