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@kejuanlynette8531
@kejuanlynette8531 Год назад
I saw this title right after I was just praying about community and reading 1 Corinthians 12. Please don’t ever think this is just a show. This is a ministry and answers to prayers. Thank you for your obedience and transparency ❤️ Thank you all for being real followers of Christ and real friends to each other. It shows 🙏🏽 Continued blessings
@oscarmike1131
@oscarmike1131 Год назад
Indeed it is. God heals us in remarkable ways, and this show is one of them for me
@annenoel4171
@annenoel4171 Год назад
🙌🏾
@Daya1828
@Daya1828 Год назад
Well said
@chaandreabrahams2995
@chaandreabrahams2995 Год назад
We need to differentiate between loneliness and solitude. Sometimes we need to be alone to have peace. Getting to know yourself while you're alone does wonders for your soul and relationship with God. I'm not lonely I'm solid!
@Simz199x
@Simz199x Год назад
Knowing how to be solitary is central to the art of loving. When we can be alone, we can be with others without using them as a means of escape.
@madefearfullywonderfully9293
@@Simz199x wow, this is so good.
@empress2024
@empress2024 Год назад
Amen.. you articulated that so beautifully!
@iluvmari238
@iluvmari238 Год назад
AMENNN
@normanbodo49
@normanbodo49 Год назад
@@Simz199x Beautifully said
@sandraseitshiro9940
@sandraseitshiro9940 Год назад
In stillness lives wisdom. In quiet you’ll find peace. In solitude you’ll remember yourself-Robin Sharma
@oscarmike1131
@oscarmike1131 Год назад
13:00 that’s what God helped me to understand about loneliness too. Sometimes God will have us isolated for a season so He can be the primary voice in our lives. For me it was a lot of negative voices telling me what I can’t do, so God pulled me away and began to show me who He is and who I am in Him. As painful as it can be, loneliness ultimately saved my relationships and my future.
@godswarriornana5860
@godswarriornana5860 Год назад
So true God will show you just how much He love you through a stranger💯 whoever is reading this know that your not alone and our Father is right beside you waiting on you to call out to Him. Everything we face in life only God can see and get us through.
@elizabethkarpeh3859
@elizabethkarpeh3859 Год назад
Pastor Touré gives a perfect explanation of loneliness in his new book Balance. "Loneliness approaches being alone from the perspective of deficit. Loneliness suggests that if I am by myself, I am somehow being deprived of someone." If you haven't read his book, I suggest you do. There are a lot of important topics covered in that book. Stay blessed, and have a great day.
@ebenezerseqebo6749
@ebenezerseqebo6749 Год назад
Reading some of the comments makes you realise that a lot of us are going through loneliness in different ways, and you guys really unravelled this topic in a life-changing way. Thank you for motivating us to do some soul searching in these challenging moments of our lives💕
@ulricka2131
@ulricka2131 Год назад
I pray Brenda that you open up and let people surprise you. I felt like this was really heavy on you. It is well darling ❤️
@pastelval4006
@pastelval4006 Год назад
1. Environment: position yourself in an environment where you can connect with people. Tell God that in this environment i haven’t really been able to connect with people - so God can show you how to make connections. Find an environment that is compatible with you and your hobbies. 2. Take focus of loneliness and remember your not alone. Find peace in knowing you’re not alone! 3. Sometimes you’re feeling alone so that you can talk about things with God first rather than people. 4. Loneliness is an unmet need. You begin to feel that people will meet the unmet need. Which makes you feel lonely! You begin to depend on people to fill the void. 5. Loneliness is a state not an identity.
@aari8350
@aari8350 Год назад
I’m grateful for this topic. I can relate. I’m grateful to the advice. I pray God sends divine friends, relationship, mentors, and people in my life.
@makenziebarney3212
@makenziebarney3212 Год назад
i had one of the best days of my life today and then i went to church and felt so much loneliness leaving. i got on RU-vid and saw this. much needed
@christianapowell6466
@christianapowell6466 Год назад
Thank You for sharing this! I feel this all the time and when I talk about it no one understands.
@itschrischriss
@itschrischriss Год назад
ouuuu I remember those days! I haven't been going but when I go back to church I do not want to feel more heavy with loneliness than when I went...I am grateful to see this bc I am taking me with me wherever I go. I want to be well.
@vanialegall8194
@vanialegall8194 Год назад
How are y’all so on point every time???!!!!
@cynthiacocco6769
@cynthiacocco6769 Год назад
I just want to say how much I really love listening to you guys. God is using you beautiful ladies to reach so many. You all are such blessings.
@Daya1828
@Daya1828 Год назад
‘Loneliness meant to be a state not an identity’ love that!
@priscillaxsafi
@priscillaxsafi Год назад
“Give people the opportunity to prove you wrong”🦋
@somiladayile9094
@somiladayile9094 Год назад
"Give people the opportunity to prove you wrong. Test and see it. - Stephanie Ike" Make room for people's goodness. This was it for me.
@shatiyamacon8564
@shatiyamacon8564 Год назад
I've healed and bounce back with confidence after that 19 year relationship ended last year. God gave me a mission to bring healing to the broken hearted. I now help women to take the swords out from their back that pierced through their hearts to embrace their new beginning with God. Nothing is wasted. God's plan is fully in motion. Align with him. Walk with him. Follow him. So if anyone need help after a heartbreak, just let me know. Sending healing your way. You got this.
@marjorymsuku9312
@marjorymsuku9312 Год назад
So good! Not really peace in loneliness; but peace in God.❤🙏
@nicolah8510
@nicolah8510 Год назад
Hi ladies, can you please touch on the topic of backsliding because it is something I really struggle with and would like to have an understanding of what causes that, where I’m going wrong and what needs to be fixed. I’m sure I’m not the only one, this would be a great opportunity for myself and others to learn. Thank you! ❤️
@FranEJ
@FranEJ Год назад
Contentment and gratitude 🙏
@loveluxelogic1504
@loveluxelogic1504 Год назад
I love this show so much! Thanks for this message and prayer. Amen!
@pinkie_x_bryne
@pinkie_x_bryne Год назад
"The need that is unmated by human being" that part right there. We have people around us but they don't match or fill that gap inside. Lord help us all cause loneliness is really and is among the reason why people get into depression/mental issue/suicide.
@montanab03
@montanab03 Год назад
This was RIGHT on point !!!!! And RIGHT on timeeee
@morgan.a.mcneill
@morgan.a.mcneill Год назад
a really good conversation. that last part spoke to me so much (as does a lot of messages from stephanie, for some reason). "let people prove you wrong." I'm carrying that with me.
@maryln3437
@maryln3437 Год назад
Im so joyful whenever i see u girls posted a new video!✨️ God bless you
@lisettestevenson9826
@lisettestevenson9826 Год назад
I was just thinking and writing in my prayer journal to God about this then this video appeared an hour after those thoughts. Thank you so much
@teresadavis8063
@teresadavis8063 Год назад
"Let people prove you wrong". God just showed me that earlier today. Give people a chance and don't assume they will treat you the way others have. Thank you so much for these talks and your prayers. Such a blessing to my life. ❤
@verajay2594
@verajay2594 Год назад
Amen to the prayer. Thank y'all for this, I have been feeling lonely lately and I will take the advice. This is really helpful and it has made me understand certain things.
@juliejenkins7728
@juliejenkins7728 Год назад
I needed to hear this message so badly
@cheyeanneconley7770
@cheyeanneconley7770 Год назад
Thank you sisters for this platform
@boitumelomakobosheane2928
@boitumelomakobosheane2928 Год назад
I have been feeling so lonely lately , I pray that these conversations will be a voice from God ❤️
@coachswd0
@coachswd0 Год назад
This has been hard to explain to people but you guys summed it up perfectly
@zeey5810
@zeey5810 Год назад
That last part😢...spoke to me. I am the queen of shutting people out and it is so hard for me to count on people because mind is always set on that no one can help me other than myself....i really will try to give people the chance to prove me wrong. Thank you so much guys for this 🙏❤ Stay blessed
@ayandasibanisezwedlomo3269
@ayandasibanisezwedlomo3269 Год назад
I really love how healthy these interactions are. How attentive you guys listen to each other and how articulate you all are. Amazing!
@karenwright6194
@karenwright6194 Год назад
Wow. That is so good. When we think we are sitting in our loneliness, God will show us His love by sending people to us. Give people the opportunity to prove us wrong. I like that so much. That spoke directly to me.
@cess9557
@cess9557 Год назад
Man, every podcast is so timely. Thank you all, love you family & God bless 🤍
@MyeshaMarie
@MyeshaMarie Год назад
Wow this was confirmation for me from God. First the friendship episode and then this one. I needed to hear this.
@VeraHull1966
@VeraHull1966 Год назад
Thank you all so much for these posts. I have only recently subscribed and I e been sharing with the sisters in my church. May Father continue to bless this amazing ministry. ❤️❤️❤️
@chivirtsengu
@chivirtsengu Год назад
What a timely video! Thank you so much🤎
@nonhlencama5132
@nonhlencama5132 Год назад
Praying for Brenda. 🙏🏿
@Daya1828
@Daya1828 Год назад
Me and my sister are blessed by this episode. Thank you, sisters in Christ
@kiannasooblessed
@kiannasooblessed Год назад
Love this! Thank you
@xolliey_malinga
@xolliey_malinga 9 месяцев назад
Pastor Stephanie's words after a prayer is exactly what i needed to hear right now. ❤
@MajorKey222
@MajorKey222 Год назад
Received. Thank you guys & Stephanie that last word was for me directly
@asiaz248
@asiaz248 Год назад
This was right on time 🥺
@Lizandherstories
@Lizandherstories Год назад
Great word!
@rickytamallett2283
@rickytamallett2283 Год назад
Snaps for this conversation. Growing and learning how to navigate seasons of being alone. I used to believe the shift was in finding happiness. But being at peace is the thing that sustains me daily. Focusing on being more calm and comfortable in stages of rest and overall life transitions. Those changes would adjust people and their closeness to us but, there are people around you. Just continuing to have an open heart and mind of acceptance.
@CoachingwithParis
@CoachingwithParis Год назад
I needed this
@purplesweat83
@purplesweat83 Год назад
Wow this was an amazing talk.
@maxinegirard3270
@maxinegirard3270 Год назад
Fatima: spot on “loneliness is a state not an identity.” Now how do you communicate this in action the practicality to a person who is feeling depressed and lonely?
@D.S24
@D.S24 Год назад
YES, another great topic ya'll, I did recently experience loneliness💔🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 I know that God may have me in this season for a little while.
@ananda912
@ananda912 Год назад
That’s good Pastor Stephanie
@NekishaNeicyCyrus
@NekishaNeicyCyrus Год назад
This message was right on God's time. #Received, #Valued & #Appreciated, thank you ladies❤🙏🏽
@drachelnelson3293
@drachelnelson3293 Год назад
Loneliness develops as we focus on unmet needs… thank you for wisdom and for this bonus topic! Thank you Fatima for your prayer.🙌🏽 May God continue to use each of you in mighty and necessary ways. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@carissastanford-nyamadi2533
@carissastanford-nyamadi2533 7 месяцев назад
I have been binge-watching the same room with Stephanie, Brenda and Tama for the past week and every conversation has been so healing to hear but specifically, I want to say that everything that's been said specifically Brenda's way of processing things and speaking about her struggles and her avoidance, all these things that she's been navigating through the Gods been helping her I never was able to put words to experiences by myself, I'm going through/going through, so I was very healing to have words put words to it. I give God the praise for it, and I pray that God blesses all of you for such a platform as this.
@preciouschinakweofficial5260
I love how Fatima speaks😊😊😊
@godswarriornana5860
@godswarriornana5860 Год назад
Whew I know this gone be good🔥🔥🔥
@brittanyb9292
@brittanyb9292 Год назад
Being misunderstood does leave you feeling lonely I got emotional praying
@itschrischriss
@itschrischriss Год назад
It dooesss. It gets better 💚💜 Don't believe the lie that you are the only one either - whatever it is. *hugs and great community
@bongimagubane1829
@bongimagubane1829 Год назад
Thank you God 🎉❤
@uniquelyshellz
@uniquelyshellz Год назад
wow so good ladies, this speaks to me so loudly and even though I have people around me, I am still in the lonely season but slowly but surely God is sending People my way who is Christ like but not necessarily think like me but I guess its a start. Just waiting and be still on the Lord for my truest hard desires and need.
@christmasboy07
@christmasboy07 9 месяцев назад
Mannn .. needed.. this gonna have to sit in me and work
@cheyblanco7353
@cheyblanco7353 Год назад
In my perspective isolation is a CHOICE we make for ourselves. We are never alone even if it is just you in a room God is omnipresent. Enjoying your own company is beautiful that very few can handle. ☺️✨
@itschrischriss
@itschrischriss Год назад
this isn't about isolation only. you can be in a room full of people and still feel lonely. sometimes it's needed for growth at others, conversations need to be had and like they said, it could be a therapist to start with. You can have great relationship with God and still be lonely at times. I am one of the most introverted people I know. I LOVE my own company but we still are built for community, to give ourselves and receive from others.
@yolandamago
@yolandamago Год назад
Ayyyye Fatima and the rhymes ❣Great conversation ladies, it was really a need ❤
@thewellnessrecipe8905
@thewellnessrecipe8905 Год назад
God is faithful. He fulfilled this word the very next day for me after coming into agreement with it. There’s something that truly shifts when we put action behind our faith. I often wonder how many times we miss God because we’re trapped in fear and despair cycles. Thank you for that charge at the end Stephanie God spoke straight through that camera to my heart/circumstances and brought deliverance through someone I had overlooked in my life.
@stephanieariste6987
@stephanieariste6987 Год назад
Thank You for this one
@odunayomajekodunmi5646
@odunayomajekodunmi5646 Год назад
I Love the Energy from these 3 Women of God! This is a powerful Topic And I agree that Peace comes from God and it allows you to handle Loneliness. Especially us Single Men/Women we have to enjoy Spending time Alone w/ God. Personally, I'm alone but not Lonely because I enjoy being in God's , presence:
@karifoster4851
@karifoster4851 Год назад
fully seen and understood wow
@adwoaa5768
@adwoaa5768 Год назад
Amen 🙌🏾
@itsakpene1240
@itsakpene1240 Год назад
i am loving this conversation. when i was alone, i was so much happier because i went to God with the smallest things and everyone said i was funny but i loved it. now i am with someone and even when i talk to the person as lot more than i talk to God, i feel so alone. i also have a question. I thought i did not have envy in me till i listened to a message from Pastor Stephanie and she entreated us to ask God to show us our hearts and i prayed this prayer a lot and later i found out i was so envious of someone i am about 6years older than. i have prayed about it and prayed about it yet i still feel like there is a part of me that is envious of her. i sometimes feel like it is because i try to be there for her yet she finds a way to get the things i want but partly cos of my responsibilities, i cannot get them if i am making sense. i even pray for her hoping if i do it would stop. i really hate feeling that way and i would love if you ladies would suggest something i could do in one of your bonus episodes. love y'all so much❤
@itschrischriss
@itschrischriss Год назад
I envied someone once. It perplexed me and I hated it bc that was not a me I knew and praying for her helped but not enough like you said. It was the friend I felt the least trust for and though great person, didn't support me in ways a friend should. I would say to you to forgive that person and release her to God. We feel like ppl don't deserve stuff bc of what they did to US but God loves them even when we would rather them be punished or left out. A lot of it is in the release - letting the offense go, have conversation if necessary/able to, and let them be who they are so we can be our best selves. I pray you well on your journey 💚
@maryericksonjussah8743
@maryericksonjussah8743 Год назад
Yes this is soooo goooood 🥳. Changing the environment and changing your focus hit home. To Brenda's point Adam wasn't lonely but alone about something which leads us to purpose . He had God but for purpose wise he required a help meet. Thank you so very much the sisters I hand picked.
@khumoleepile8473
@khumoleepile8473 Год назад
The Holy Spirit really is my guide because He led me to this particular episode. I relate a hundred percent. I pray that God meets us at the places where we need Him the most. May relationships that bear good fruit locate all of you and may they be long lasting. I guess God is isolating me to use me for the greater good of His kingdom. The things He's revealing to me are out of this world and I don't think I'd experience them to this capacity if my focus was elsewhere. God bless this channel, the hosts, the subscribers and everyone one who has a hand in making it what it is.
@oscarmike1131
@oscarmike1131 Год назад
I have a question I hope can be addressed someday. What is the difference between being generous and loving to help people, and being taken advantage of? Where do we draw the line, whether it’s in ministry or with our family?
@Mosh-p5f
@Mosh-p5f Год назад
Pray for wisdom to know when to help and when to say NO..coz not all assignments that come your way are assigned to you. When the Lord leads you, He always gives you the grace and there is always a sense of fullfillment but when you don't inquire from Him and you do things by your own strength and wisdom you will always feel drained and used.
@makeupmonet6967
@makeupmonet6967 Год назад
This is good!
@briannadorris9848
@briannadorris9848 Год назад
Can you guys do a topic on how you shifted your Godly romantic relationships to marriage? How you and your fiancé/husband knew you were ready?
@sorealKhutso_M
@sorealKhutso_M Год назад
Stephhhhhhhhhh😩😩😩 I hear you "Feeding and focusing on the need" I hear you
@jennifern.5305
@jennifern.5305 Год назад
I think the biggest way to combat loneliness is to find people who have walked/are walking through what you’re going through. Sometimes however, those people don’t exist. In that situation, Christians can take cues from people in the Bible who have battled loneliness and what they did to handle it.
@PoSHEmediaglobal
@PoSHEmediaglobal Год назад
Nonetheless loneliness is an extremely painful thing to experience and sometimes you are trying all you can but it’s not working It’s thought me that being Christian doesn’t solve everything and am resentful cos I see people in the world experience so much friendships doing their worldly stuff. I work partly remotely and a weekend graduate student . In between the two there isn’t much time to do anything else. Therapy is not easily accessible where am at
@NikkiDavis843
@NikkiDavis843 Год назад
Thank you for sharing. Questions: 1.How to determine your purpose and if you are called to marry and partner with someone through marriage?(I don't think we are all called to marriage and I haven't found many discussions on the topic.How to decipher what God has determined for that individual. ) Thank you
@ntobekomfeka2335
@ntobekomfeka2335 Год назад
God has impeccable timing...🔥🔥. Is it possible to feel a bit young to be spiritual..?? , I feel a bit young to have all the knowledge you and SJR teach... In varsity especially..help please
@naynayhi93
@naynayhi93 Год назад
this 20 minutes felt like 5 minutes wow
@BeccahJoy
@BeccahJoy Год назад
1. Loneliness is a sad feeling that needs to be felt. 2. Invite Jesus to be there & love you, there. 3. That set needs a plant & some color, cause the set looks lonely.
@opeyemiadeniji2900
@opeyemiadeniji2900 Год назад
How do i break a cycle? I keep going in cycles where for a few weeks i am on fire for God and another i fall into lukewarm. How do i keep my fire for God
@ananda912
@ananda912 Год назад
I think that people that are feeling lonely sometimes is because they think that no one cares.
@metoyou2576
@metoyou2576 Год назад
This is for Pastor Stephanie Ike… Can you guys talk about dreams in more detail? I’m a big dreamer a s God speaks to me through dreams, they come true and I see them play out in real life… My dreams can be very direct and to the point but sometimes they can be riddles but I later understand what they meant when something happens… Can you speak on how to cancel demonic dreams or dreams that you know are not of God? And how to better understand dreams that are more parables/riddles in nature. Thank you.
@markietacrockett
@markietacrockett Год назад
God’s peace is unmatched. Yes, you can choose to have “peace or be at peace” just don’t think it’s the peace God gives us.
@cherokeejames.nocomment.b1112
When have your ancestors family around none is never lonely 🥺
@kejuanlynette8531
@kejuanlynette8531 Год назад
This bonus episode was the work of The Lord! Thank you to whoever sent this question, and thank you Fatima for that prayer 🔥🔥🔥Thank you Stephanie for that message just before the close! I know 💯 this was for me, and I’m so thankful 🥹
@lovejoy6710
@lovejoy6710 Год назад
Thank you!! I love this channel
@newgirlLeilaLucy000
@newgirlLeilaLucy000 Год назад
Love this!! The Lord was definitely speaking to me through you all! From @6:41 to @9:43 is exactly how I’ve been feeling! Literally took the thoughts right out of my head! So I know The Lord wanted me to watch this!!
@feyi4103
@feyi4103 Год назад
Sameeee! She said everything that I’ve been feeling.
@newgirlLeilaLucy000
@newgirlLeilaLucy000 Год назад
@@feyi4103 it’s feels better to know you’re not alone in feeling that way. When some can truly understand you!
@cashboyberry482
@cashboyberry482 Год назад
Hi my name is rufus and I'm 15 and I been doing third eye practice for 3 months and just a couple of days ago I did a third eye meditation and when I finished doing the meditation I felt a lot of energy through out my body and then every thing got quiet then I heard a deep voice and it said ha ha ha so if u have any advice plz give it to me because I feel like I'm going to go crazy
@nawomijanemanifest4466
@nawomijanemanifest4466 Год назад
Praise God ps Stephen How do i walk in spirit
@dailybible_jc
@dailybible_jc Год назад
"how to have peace when lonely"?.. I can be in a room full of family & friends & still feel extremely alone.
@Daya1828
@Daya1828 Год назад
Validation is a human need. It’s not son of god becoming. Affirmation is godly
@AHulin
@AHulin Год назад
I got divorced 12 years ago, and have been alone since. Loneliness is an even tougher road when you know you can never remarry because infidelity was not the reason for the divorce. So, there is no dating because it can't go anywhere. Sometimes I feel like my heart is physically breaking. It gets quite frustrating.
@genclark9214
@genclark9214 Год назад
Stay Encouraged!
@itschrischriss
@itschrischriss Год назад
@@genclark9214 stay? She ain't even there yet to stay there lol let's pray she finds comfort in the Holy Spirit and community. Fr. We can do that.
@itschrischriss
@itschrischriss Год назад
first things, you are the first person I have ever heard acknowledge a biblical stand point on divorce. wow! congrats for not picking and choosing what we want to believe about such a deep and [suppose to be] beautiful covenant! I pray you well and that you heal. May God grant you with clarity on your situation and the help to let go, to forgive whoever needs to be along the way and accept and live in the now. You can have such deep fulfillment in this life. Grace and peace
@DiscoveringKatlego
@DiscoveringKatlego Год назад
I hear yall say we should let people prove us wrong but man, people are super hurtful. Let them hurt me Over and over again? No ma'am
@sandramontaz5704
@sandramontaz5704 Год назад
I love y'all convos! Can y'all do a segment on submission in marriage? For men & woman.
@itschrischriss
@itschrischriss Год назад
No offense to their platform but until/if they do have an episode for you I recently listened to the Headship espidodes: Part 1 and 2 on 30 Minutes with the Perry's (Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry) and it was good, both male and female views were expressed.
@sandramontaz5704
@sandramontaz5704 Год назад
Thanks sis! I checked those out & they were everything I wanted to hear. 🙏❤️ Blessings to you.
@DanceLovies
@DanceLovies Год назад
My husband whom decided to defend himself before anyone put him down as a bullied highschooler if someone hurt him back then. He is at this age 50ish still defending himself and refuse to be vulnerable. Which makes me and our children lonely. Cause he scare people away and they think he is rude. He is not able to humble himself. Cause according to him and his relatives his dad was the meanest man in town. I believe in community but God has called me to not divorce. We have a 4 year old boy and I need our child not to harden his heart or become a victim. So how do you go threw growing up without loosing a pure and humble and soft heart? What can I as a family member do for my hated husband and little boy?
@fionajensen2952
@fionajensen2952 Год назад
What happened to the fourth host? God bless you all
@vuyon5317
@vuyon5317 Год назад
can someone explain to me what happened with the 4th lady. was she fired or did she quit
@fatimaelswify1657
@fatimaelswify1657 Год назад
She will be back..it was just a schedule thing
@vuyon5317
@vuyon5317 Год назад
@@fatimaelswify1657 owk great:). coz it was looking shady. i honesty thot she got left out coz she was the least vocal of the group and the producers wanted to test the chemistry and flow without her. but im glad everything is cool and we're giving her a chance. it just wouldnt have been a good look. btw...love the show and im constantly uplifted by it. its helping me navigate my Christian life. And i apologise if i came off as a troll
@buhlebenkosincube4245
@buhlebenkosincube4245 Год назад
Hie sister Stephanie ❤️ where can I get in touch with you I'm in Zimbabwe
@ruvimbonyabando3849
@ruvimbonyabando3849 Год назад
Hey Buhle 👋 I'm also from Zimbabwe
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