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In this video, Ask This Old House home technology expert Ross Trethewey helps a homeowner get stronger WiFi coverage throughout his house by extending the service.
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Ross Trethewey helps a homeowner fix his slow WiFi. The family has had problems with their WiFi since they moved in. They cannot stream movies on their television in the basement, and sometimes even emails are slow to send.
Ross sees a ton of similar complaints from other homeowners. Finding the issue can be tricky since you can't see a Wi-Fi network's physical problem. Ross demonstrates a step-by-step approach to diagnose a WiFi problem and determine how to fix it. After checking the wiring and the modem location, Ross shows how to check the Internet speed.
He finds that the WiFi signal gets weak in the basement and top floor, but he has a solution. Ross introduces the homeowner to a mesh network, a distributed router system where you place WiFi routers strategically around your house to strengthen the WiFi connectivity and increase coverage. Afterward, the family has a strong WiFi signal throughout their home, allowing them to send emails and stream their favorite home improvement show.
Skill: 1/5
Cost: Mesh router costs $200-$500
Time: 1 hour
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Ross installed a mesh network to extend the homeowner's WIFI coverage. The mesh network doesn't create a new network. Instead, it works to strengthen the network you have. The technology uses multiple devices to enhance WiFi connectivity and increase coverage. The tri-band mesh network used was eero Pro 6, eero [eero.com/] is an Amazon company.
Before installing the eero system, Ross explains the benefits of using a UPS (uninterruptible power supply). This battery backup strip provides up to 6 hours of power and surge protection. Ross chose to use a APC Back-UPS BE600M1 [amzn.to/3H1ywD1], which APC manufactures by Schneider Electric-APC USA [www.apc.com/us/en/]
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@Astrand1
@Astrand1 2 года назад
I think he missed one important point with the mesh network. Once you install a mesh system and connect to your existing modem/router it’s very important to disable the wireless function on the modem/router so that you don’t have WiFi signals fighting each other.
@miles5600
@miles5600 2 года назад
i think he did that. they do a lotta things of camera.
@Astrand1
@Astrand1 2 года назад
@@miles5600 I would assume he did but I think he should have at mentioned it as I’m sure there are people out there that might not even know to do it.
@rosstret
@rosstret 2 года назад
@@miles5600 thanks answering. And yup you’re correct. We turned off the WiFi antennas of the existing combination modem and router. As you mentioned there are a lot of things that are done but don’t make the final cut due to timing . This segment would have been over an hour long if we explained everything little step.
@EMTDawg
@EMTDawg 2 года назад
@Ross Trethewey I am trying to figure out how the max at the modem was 170 but after you had over 250 with mesh, and he only pays for 200???
@miles5600
@miles5600 2 года назад
@@EMTDawg that's possible when the service provider gives a free internet speed boost. mostly happens after they've upgraded their infrastructure.
@pf5658
@pf5658 2 года назад
It’s why I ran CAT6 cables for all my streaming devices. I prefer hardwired option because it’s more reliable.
@degenwow
@degenwow 2 года назад
wireless is never miss-free.
@devo076
@devo076 2 года назад
It's preferable but many people would be too intimidated to do such a thing.
@joelopez7459
@joelopez7459 2 года назад
finally finishing this project i started years ago
@kalijasin
@kalijasin Год назад
It’s laziness not intimidation.
@sophieminter0
@sophieminter0 Год назад
@@kalijasin Intimidation creates laziness so yes it is.
@spacewolfjr
@spacewolfjr 2 года назад
I liked the methodology he laid out, it's so important to remove the unknown and design your experiments to isolate each component to test.
@bigboy13a
@bigboy13a 2 года назад
I’ve been running a mesh network for 6 years. It’s fantastic. Streaming 4K in places I had no signal. I bought my own modem. Don’t rent a box. In one year it pays for itself. I’m also a gamer. No issues at all. I don’t have the battery back up. Think I’ll look into that
@isaiah4478
@isaiah4478 Год назад
*Modem or router dies* Internet Service Provider: Not my problem *Rents modem or router* *modem dies ISP: we will send out someone within an hour.
@Anchor9Studios
@Anchor9Studios Месяц назад
@@isaiah4478lol good luck getting Spectrum out to the house within the same week
@bigdonald123
@bigdonald123 25 дней назад
What brand is the best?
@yanhasmut4005
@yanhasmut4005 10 месяцев назад
Thank you, thank you for this simple short video that answers questions simply! Thank you so much!
@theodoreroberts3407
@theodoreroberts3407 2 года назад
Just what I needed to see. I love your program.
@nn260
@nn260 2 года назад
Lol the way he talks and walks I see carbon copy of dad . Keep up this wonderful channel, we all need to support this great channel.
@joseedgardopalomo5464
@joseedgardopalomo5464 2 года назад
excellent i have been searching for this advice on the internet for some time and now i find thanks
@Patmanduu
@Patmanduu 2 года назад
I would argue that a single quality WAP, centrally located and ideally on the top floor’s ceiling, is perfectly adequate for 90% of suburban homes. Usually running ethernet cable from the modem to the attic is a lot easier than people seem to think and worth the effort.
@Aepek
@Aepek 2 года назад
Agreed, and I’d even say it would be around 99% for ppl. The ppl who have servers, multiple SSIDs, VMs, Intra/Inter NETs, etc…..running in there homes cover about 1% of ppl IMO, and they also using gigabit or fiber networking. Most run 100-200 Gbps from there ISP and what you said in comment…..would be just fine 👍🏻👍🏻 Cheers✌🏻
@rosstret
@rosstret 2 года назад
Getting to the attic in this house would have been challenging. But definitely considered it. There is no better connection than a hardwired one!
@acrinsd
@acrinsd 2 года назад
Depends on the size of the house and construction. I'm in a 1,250sq ft house, and with the router nearly in the middle of the house, by the time I get to the outer edges, I've lost 60% of the signal. Anywhere outside of the house, the loss is at 90%. Our house is lath and plaster, so somewhat of a faraday cage. My office is out in our garage, no more than 20 feet (line of sight) from the modem, but without a wired or wireless booster, the signal is unusable. This type of construction is very prevalent the older Southern California neighborhoods.
@asseater1895
@asseater1895 2 года назад
A wap ayy?
@magoldma
@magoldma 2 года назад
I did this exact thing, running a ceiling mounted EnGenius EWS357AP WiFi 6 WAP in the middle of my house and it reaches every corner of my house with 300 Mbps, the max my service will run. Cost $100 and is very unobtrusive.
@johnc8112
@johnc8112 2 года назад
Excellent video I have a problem with my network. Will try this and see if it works.
@billymccarthy8703
@billymccarthy8703 10 месяцев назад
I love this old house and have for 20 years❤
@larryt67
@larryt67 2 года назад
The first thing I did is buy my own cable modem without wifi built into the modem, I have a consistent speed reading and do not not pay a monthly charge, then I installed the eero mesh system. Since i have a better modem, I do not have much down time. In the last 3 years I only had to reset the modem 1 time.
@kyleryan7475
@kyleryan7475 Год назад
Thanks for this! Really helped!!
@bluesclues6586
@bluesclues6586 2 года назад
Nothing beats hardwired. The mesh system will improve service but like the extender is still relying on the main unit. The modem will always fluctuate.
@almazabraha
@almazabraha 10 месяцев назад
Best video simple clear and efficient thank you
@wdhewson
@wdhewson 2 года назад
Useful, thanks.
@andydsimmons
@andydsimmons 2 года назад
Great video. I need to do the exact same thing
@STho205
@STho205 2 года назад
Like all good wireless systems... You improve it by adding lots more wires.
@Joemama-km9np
@Joemama-km9np 2 года назад
Great, now I can just copy and paste this video to friends and family who keep calling about wifi problems!
@p.b.2903
@p.b.2903 Год назад
Great video
@mikeclarke3005
@mikeclarke3005 2 года назад
One thing to remember on wifi, all clients devices share that connection per SSID (non overlapping) channel. Great for mobile devices but best to hard wire stationary devices when can to just prevent overcrowding that spectrum. Also the further away, less signal the radios negotiate a slower speed but still can be too weak and have drops, exponentially increases fro each wireless dive being used. Best for long distance, going through objects, other interference putting more AP's in the house, these are static non routing APs operating on different non over lapped channels and can use same SSID Name or different if want to keep seperated
@kad8956
@kad8956 Год назад
what is ap?
@batmore1
@batmore1 Год назад
@@kad8956 AP equals Access Point as in a wifi access point.
@lennyadamowicz7642
@lennyadamowicz7642 2 года назад
Awesome!
@TR-vh1fi
@TR-vh1fi Год назад
Awesome video
@brandonpike7046
@brandonpike7046 Год назад
This is the first video I’ve seen from this channel and it explained this concept absolutely perfectly for me. I really appreciate this learning style and I liked and subscribed!
@Mayheezy592
@Mayheezy592 Год назад
Trust me he is giving half truths at best, it's honestly painful to hear his answers.
@nusermane1076
@nusermane1076 2 года назад
Well done, I have seen many „fix“ videos, but mostly nothing was explained correctly, but not so here 👍👍 Can you do a hardwired mesh with a network cabinet install in the basement next? Would be a breeze to see wifi be done even more properly 🙂 Keep up this good research upfront as you did here and deliver more good quality content!!
@Alex.AL_26
@Alex.AL_26 2 года назад
I have an entire network rack in my basement with the router, modem, gateway and switch for all my security cameras and hardwired WAP's through out the house, I also have all my audio devices for the whole house sound system, as well as home automation system all mounted on the rack. It is not a cheap setup but definitely something I wanted when I built my house.
@tevman69
@tevman69 2 года назад
To make a long story short, mo money, mo money, mo money!
@clivemorgan7632
@clivemorgan7632 Год назад
That real kool!!
@raulc-ix4yp
@raulc-ix4yp 9 месяцев назад
Hello amazing video just wondering which wifi analyzer did you use ??
@chillyo9709
@chillyo9709 Год назад
Well done, great setup but I would recommend to avoid the unnecessary high cost for the UPS, which is not required
@boostedmaniac
@boostedmaniac 2 года назад
When I remodeled my home, I ran Ethernet to every room in the house. I ran all the Ethernet to a central location in a closet with all my gear including a patch panel. Any dead spots, which was really only my backyard for my pellet smoker, made it easy to add an access point to extend range.
@avflyguy
@avflyguy 2 года назад
Did same thing. Hard wire Cat 6 in every room in 2 story house. Never an issue. Used a couple of 10 yr old wireless routers - Ethernet to the back and setup another secondary wireless router. Still get 60-75mbs through old wireless Linksys router, with 3 more hard connect ports (if needed)
@boostedmaniac
@boostedmaniac 2 года назад
@@avflyguy yeah prefer wired connection when I can use it.
@Boobtube.
@Boobtube. 2 года назад
Just getting the modem off the floor and on a table would do wonders. What good does it do having a UPS on at modem but not the other floors?
@bunsoft2
@bunsoft2 2 года назад
Ups for the modem and main router which is great. What about the signal amplifier? As far as i understand from the video the amp is also a powered one, in case of power outage you lose internet access.
@doginu
@doginu Год назад
Thanks for the $700 answer, Hard wire the basement and attic. Move the router to a higher point on the first floor...
@spacecowboy2k
@spacecowboy2k 2 года назад
If feel bad for his Wife trying to push video through a 5mbps upstream 🤦‍♂️
@joemikolic
@joemikolic 2 года назад
I’m hoping that you can help me with a question that didn’t come up during this ‘How to Fix and Upgrade a Weak Wi-Fi Signal’: The homeowner had a modem/router presumably from his internet provider. During the intimation of the new mesh router it was not explained how one bypasses the router in the already existing modem/router such as to still be using the modem from the modem/router but, instead of using the router part of the existing modem/router, uses the newly purchased installed mesh router? In advance, thank you for any enlightenment you can provide! Joe
@Sorex_Tkt
@Sorex_Tkt Год назад
0:54 I like how he just straight up materialized a splitter.
@mattyodotcom
@mattyodotcom Год назад
I've used mesh networking AND powerline networking. In my experience, I think I'd give the slight edge to powerline networking. Any feedback on your personal experience?
@douglasthompson9482
@douglasthompson9482 2 года назад
Great ideas....so many boxes though. Yikes.
@smmamiri
@smmamiri 2 года назад
I have Tplink mesh network and they are solid as should be, mesh solution is highly recommended for each house!
@cloudmover
@cloudmover 2 года назад
I have three mesh Eeros and my signal is rock solid. I would have made sure to at least investigate putting the cable router/modem into bridge mode. He could have an issue or twenty down the line if he doesn't deal with the double-nat of two routers that are doing identical functions. Also, he could "possibly" remove the cable router from the connection all together. I have my gateway Eero plugged in directly to the cable line.
@rosstret
@rosstret 2 года назад
Yup, we put the existing combination modem/router into bridge mode, disabling the WiFi antennas!
@TheBritishPatriot
@TheBritishPatriot Год назад
In this instance I think a mesh network system wasn’t needed, the other floors all had decent WiFi, this seemed like a quick & easy/lazy fix and it was very expensive. There are much cheaper alternatives, including running some Ethernet from the modem to the entertainment room and putting up an AP, after all they’re on the same floor. The homeowner wasn’t far off either with the extender, those are decent but he should’ve picked a different outlet that was closer to the router or perhaps tried a power line adaptor.
@garysicurella92
@garysicurella92 9 месяцев назад
I need that at my house
@mrbuckmeister
@mrbuckmeister Год назад
Mesh is good. Given that the modem was on the floor with a hole on the floor going to the basement,I would have looked to run an Ethernet cable to the TV in the basement or at least hard wire the mesh access point in the basement. I noticed the mesh access point was in the same place the repeater had been and the repeater got poor reception. Finally, 200 for the whole house with more than two people isn't enough. You only need two people using video at their same time to saturate the bandwidth. That said, you hugely improved their setup. I'm sure they will be delighted with the improvement.
@MaAllen417
@MaAllen417 6 месяцев назад
So you have to buy 3 of the mesh routers if you have a main floor, upstairs and basement like the dude in the video?
@DiCasaFilm
@DiCasaFilm 2 года назад
How were they able to achieve speeds HIGHER than the hard-wired test of 170 mbps? Did the home owner upgrade from the ISP?
@deandre1283
@deandre1283 Год назад
As a Cisco Certified Network Engineer with over 20 years in the field, although he said he didnt need a new router, that is exactly what the Eeros is......
@TruelyView
@TruelyView 2 года назад
I have multiple streams working on only 30 mps. Step one should have been to just buy a standalone modem. The combo units from the internet service provider are known to be terrible. Most providers also charge you to rent them so if you just buy one you end up saving money in the long run. Got my Asus for 50. Saved a rental fee of 15 per month.
@bryanebell2003
@bryanebell2003 2 года назад
I have dsl copper 24Mbs down, Ubiquiti Amplifi and I have no issues. Anywhere I can, I wire (wall fishes). 3 HD streams from RU-vid TV, Fortnite on two xBoxes, 4 IP security cameras, and other devices with activity.
@rosstret
@rosstret 2 года назад
The existing modem/router was owner by the homeowner, so we wanted to reuse it if we could. And we turned the system into bridge mode and turned off it’s WiFi antennas to minimize additional interference.
@l00tur
@l00tur 2 года назад
Something to keep in mind is using the ISP supplied unit affords you the luxury of not having to triage issues yourself. This is a no brainer if you know what you’re doing, if you don’t it’s considered insurance. Additionally this also covers you in the event the service is impacted preventing service reps from placing the blame on “customer equipment”. I agree the money spent renting the unit is better used somewhere else, however the reality is this is not something the majority can deal with on their own. It’ll always be easier to have the option to call up your ISP and have them fix your issues than getting frustrated dealing with it yourself. One other thing, as tech progresses the devices we purchase to shed off the rental fee begin to age where we need to purchase newer equipment, this may be anywhere from 3-7 years , still there is money to be saved but again, if you’re renting you aren’t having to worry about purchasing a replacement and hoping you purchased the correct one to work with your service provider.
@Thefatveganchef
@Thefatveganchef 2 года назад
If you are using an all in one device like this be sure to call your ISP to have them put the modem in bridge mode! Otherwise you have 2 routers daisy chained and can cause double natting issues.
@TomCee53
@TomCee53 2 года назад
The extender would probably have worked fine if it was located halfway to the modem/router. Putting it next to the tv was getting no better signal than the tv directly. In fact, depending on how the extender was configured, the tv might still be connecting directly to the router.
@johnmacward
@johnmacward 2 года назад
Extenders are the stains on satans balls and should be eliminated like Covid from the planet. I exaggerate a bit, I know, but I've NEVER had any good times with extenders. They are unreliable when someone walks in front of one of them, coughs, sneezes near one. They often have a single radio signal for both backhaul and client connection and by definition they are slow SO now they are TWICE as slow. They are of course limited to where an actual plug point is so in this video the dude may not have had any choice but to plug it in there.
@benjaminotto5180
@benjaminotto5180 2 года назад
Those are usually from the provider and are garbage and over priced. You can buy a gently used wifi mesh or the power extender which work way better.
@TurboSpeedWiFi
@TurboSpeedWiFi Год назад
Extenders rarely help anything.
@TomCee53
@TomCee53 Год назад
@@TurboSpeedWiFi well, that’s a pretty downer statement. I do believe that many of them are marketed beyond their capabilities, but I hope they don’t get totally classified along with power factor correctors. 🥴 I have used several extenders to good effect, not to boost throughput, but to stabilize signals in poor coverage areas. In most cases, it’s worth adding a second access point hard-wired to the main router, or just direct wiring problem devices.
@kalijasin
@kalijasin Год назад
He did this all wrong.
@bigsparky65
@bigsparky65 2 года назад
Very interesting, informative. I don't understood much about WIFI this video has helped me out
@MariuszChr
@MariuszChr 2 года назад
That cheap WiFi extender is worse than expensive signal extender? Those installed are just fancier extenders... They didn't do good job, they did easy fix. But I guess labor is more expensive than hardware...
@walt4690
@walt4690 Год назад
Hey this old house. Long time fan since the 80's when my dad would watch you on the antenna. I'm now a licensed electrician, and former isp/low voltage data installer from years ago. I always love the trethuey segments and am glad that Ross is a recurring segment of the show. This video on extending the WiFi signal made me want to comment that power line networking devices (gigabit) and moca devices (2.5 gigabit) exist and can work great. I myself have used power line adapters for 6 years and they work flawlessly. They do have s negative connotation from early adopters in the early 2000's when the speed and connectivity wasn't as good. They also suffer from connection issues in north America where the vast majority of residential wiring uses a split phase (often called single phase) wiring system. The manufacturer instructions tell you to be in the same circuit as the other adapter which is rarely possible, the reason that they say that without getting too technical is because in a split phase electrical system, the utility transformer has one utility phase that makes a line 1 phase of 120 volts anda line 2 phase which makes 120 volts. If you put A multimeter across line 1, & line 2 you get 240 volts. This is the typical residential single family home wiring system. Duplex, triplex, multifamily homes or apartment complexes can have true 3 phase voltage systems of 208/120 volts.... 208 being line to line and 120 volts being line 1,2, or line 3 to neutral. In any event the power line Network adapters can have trouble communicating across different phases or lines/legs. ... It's so convoluted of an explanation that the manufacturers just say keep it on the same circuit..... When in reality it's just that there isn't a connection between the phases. Here's the playoff To remedy this all that you need is additional adapters to bridge across. A typical home will be single phase and every other circuit breaker in an electrical panel will be opposite phases. So a normal single phase electrical panel will have 1 through 20, or 38, or 42... etc. 1, and, 2 will be horizontal and just below will be circuit breakers 3, and 4. Circuits 1, and 2 will be on the same phase. Circuits 3, and 4 will be in the opposite phase of circuits 1, and 2. This continues in the same repeating order on down the panel every other row is opposite. So the way to get communication between both phases, and throughout a typical North American home is to put one of the adapters on the first phase and another one on the second phase and run a cat 5 or cat 6 in between them. Now on to moca adapters. They can work by running a network signal between two adapters each being connected to a coaxial cable I believe RG6 provides the best connection I am unsure of rg59 the old standard is capable of providing the full 2.5 gigabit connection if the home comes pre-wired with coaxial cable it is often faster than a category 6 cable or Wi-Fi or powerline networking. There are definitely options available and Wi-Fi is the slowest of all of them and can suffer from interference
@chj915
@chj915 2 года назад
Did he disable the wifi from the modem when setting up the mesh network? Otherwise, 2 wifi network operating inside the same house. Also, what's the point of using that UPS? If the house loses the power, having only that main mesh router working as LAN model, what benefit of that? The other 2 mesh router units will also lose power as well. That UPS is a definitely an unnecessary cost.
@birdbeast2084
@birdbeast2084 Год назад
If I have a cable modem router combo can I use this mesh wifi setup? Or is that not an option ?
@lapprentice
@lapprentice 10 месяцев назад
Nothing beats good ol' hardwire. Lol😅
@Thefatveganchef
@Thefatveganchef 2 года назад
Oh and also a splitter will not cut the signal in half, it will reduce the signal by the decibel level printed above the leg of the splitter which is ok to do as long as the cable tech has the signals balanced. A house amp is normally only installed if there are more than 4 cable boxes and modem installed or if the run from the tap is long enough to require it.
@alexcelaya8814
@alexcelaya8814 2 года назад
Everything you said is correct. I typically try to leave modems right around 0db (-10 to +10 is where it needs to be at) and the reason for that is because the signal is gonna fluctuate with the change of temperature outside
@LdyVder
@LdyVder 2 года назад
The fact the guy is being told that 96mbs is a good speed blows my mind, never mind all the other junk he's spewing. I'd cry if I had that speed.
@alexcelaya8814
@alexcelaya8814 2 года назад
@@LdyVder gamer?
@TurboSpeedWiFi
@TurboSpeedWiFi Год назад
@@alexcelaya8814 Gaming only requires 5 Mbps max. LOL!
@alexcelaya8814
@alexcelaya8814 Год назад
@@TurboSpeedWiFi gamers are usually the first ones to call and cry about their speeds being 1 mbps under what they’re paying for lol
@robfreeman5783
@robfreeman5783 2 года назад
212.6 / 22.7 just now. Love Eero Mesh.
@phatballs9834
@phatballs9834 2 года назад
Went to a tp link wifi 6 router about 6 months ago, and the range is incredible.
@smarthome2660
@smarthome2660 2 года назад
IKR, before I was lucky to get WiFi near the edge of my property 50 feet away. Now I get super WiFi in the middle of the next block.
@housefindersnorthernitaly
@housefindersnorthernitaly Год назад
Yes, thanks for this!!! I was all ready to shell out a few hundred dollars then I read this and bought the tplink 6. i live in a large 200-year-old house with stone walls 2 feet thick. Just getting the new router solved all of my coverage problems, no more buffering, or dropping. or 12-hour uploads of video footage. Yay!!!!!
@MrSeanstuart
@MrSeanstuart 2 года назад
Run wires everywhere possible and practical - especially the TV and audio system - just like the 80s and before. Wireless for the phones and tablets and where wire is not practical.
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 2 года назад
Gaming consoles (Xbox, Play Station, etc.), Desktop computers, Audio systems, Network Attached Storage (NAS), Roku boxes, Streaming boxes, and TVs (Smart, Roku, etc.) should always be hardwired into the router.
@johnc8112
@johnc8112 2 года назад
Great video keep up the awesome work you do. I had a problem with my network and Wi-Fi I went and bought this system that was recommended it works.
@paulj.6942
@paulj.6942 10 месяцев назад
What online speed tester did you use?
@davidbell7094
@davidbell7094 Год назад
I think your actually lucky in the US-AN OLD House in the UK is 100% guaranteed brick or block internal walls, usually like you mentioned in this video in the US are dry wall,great video.!
@utubewillyman
@utubewillyman 2 года назад
I don't get what the difference is between the extender and the mesh. They are both broadcasting and receiving wifi signals. What is making the mesh faster? Stronger signal? The additional channels?
@evelynwald9132
@evelynwald9132 Год назад
I wish he would come to my house and help me. It’s great when you understand all of this stuff but when things go wrong, it’s hard to figure out what to do. Also, who wants to see all that stuff in a room, there has to be better ways to get the signals you need in a more discreet and aesthetic way. It’s great if you can start from scratch, but over time, all this stuff evolves and requires replacements.
@DanielPaprocki
@DanielPaprocki Год назад
I like how he enters the house and leaves the door open wide 😂
@WhoDissGuy
@WhoDissGuy 8 дней назад
Well there was a storm door.
@1SheepishWolf
@1SheepishWolf 2 года назад
Ehhh splitters dont cut cable signal in "half". Usually its 3.5db to like 11db difference from the input signal. Amplifiers can actually cause problems if the signal is too powerful, it just becomes noise.
@blomegoog
@blomegoog 2 года назад
great video. accurate info. mesh is awesome. tried all the major brands and orbi was the winner for me. faster and better range than eero and google.
@TheSokodelic
@TheSokodelic 2 года назад
Are the mesh routers three or two prong?
@sglenn6
@sglenn6 Год назад
What is the best mesh system to use?
@detailedgaming6039
@detailedgaming6039 2 года назад
Wow it seems like a lot of devices from a lot of different companies in order to get one thing I can only ponder if this fuels your own profession
@factory8138
@factory8138 Год назад
This mesh system is so good it outperforms the wired connection LOL
@penelopelgoss2520
@penelopelgoss2520 Год назад
011323 Our mesh isn't working to cover the entire house. I had COX move their Modem (122722) to a more centralized location at the base of the stairs. The house was built in 1972. As a bi-level house into a hillside we deal with the construction aspects including exterior wall construction materials and dirt. We did have an APC but it's gone. We also do NOT have an amplifier. The mesh system is about 5-6 years old nd the settings may not be correct on it. How do I access the router to confirm it is putting off the strongest signal? Does the "MTU" setting truly help with the signal strength? HELP!!!! Ps. Who is the manufacturer of the Signal Amplifier?
@TheMr.George
@TheMr.George 2 года назад
Wifi analyzer would work also for checking RSSI strengths from different places in the house
@JohnHall
@JohnHall 2 года назад
Non-wired mesh and testing throughput as a placeholder for signal strength? Rookie.
@pemarts
@pemarts Год назад
Upload values are important too
@ChuckD-lu5mb
@ChuckD-lu5mb 9 месяцев назад
How did you get the second and third router to work with out the Ethernet Cable? I have the Motorola Q 14 System and I can't configure the second one for upstairs. Modem is on the first floor. Does anybody reading this have the Motorola Q14 wifi mesh and can you explain to me how did you get the second one to work with out the Ethernet Cable? Thank you!
@lqdxoni1
@lqdxoni1 2 года назад
asus zenwifi ax660 rocks also has 4 ports on each node to wire things, also for wifi static ip's help to stop interferance.
@davidbertrand6884
@davidbertrand6884 2 года назад
Does those upgrades work with fiber optics also ❓ 2-4-2022
@davidp7615
@davidp7615 2 года назад
Wired always the best but next best thing is a mesh with a wired backhaul. Blazing speed!!
@charleschurch5397
@charleschurch5397 Месяц назад
My tp link wifi extender works excellent. Full wifi bars with it, over 100 mbps and without it in the same spot i have 2 wifi bars and 37 mbps. 2.4 & 5 G supported, easy setup.
@spencjon4822
@spencjon4822 2 года назад
Some routers (especially if you have multiple people/a lot of IOT devices) overheat often. If you notice periodic slow-downs, one thing to look at is if it's overheating.
@fizwin1
@fizwin1 2 года назад
Add a fan to the modem and/or router. I always do
@ShinyTechThings
@ShinyTechThings 2 года назад
No specs were given on the Wi-Fi configuration, channel width, or channel utilization. There's a strong possibility that upgrading wasn't necessary to get up to double the speed as the baseline.
@solidskulltripleaces5881
@solidskulltripleaces5881 Год назад
Hey if you have fiber optic Network and you had the router in the basement would it be weaker or wouldn't need to be put on the main floor
@JJFlores197
@JJFlores197 Год назад
Its best to put your router in a central location. If you can't do that for whatever reason, the next best thing is to run an ethernet cable from your router to a part of your house where you need good wifi coverage and install a wifi access point. I would avoid wifi repeaters/extenders as those tend to not be good. Wifi mesh networks are probably the 3rd best thing, but they are quite pricey.
@fictionalgaming912
@fictionalgaming912 2 года назад
Not sure why the comments are saying the MESH solution was bad - only negative is that the mesh devices were a little pricey, but eero has a 2 pack for 129$ and a mesh router for 89$ so overall to stand up a mesh network is 200$ (cheaper than a new modem/router). People are also forgetting that POE devices are generally more expensive than non-POE devices. Furthermore, the lay out and problem the customer was having was a perfect fit for a MESH system. Sure cables could have been ran, sure maybe a stronger 3rd party router may have fixed the issue, sure locating the modem to a central location could have worked, but then you have to run more coaxial, cut holes in the wall, create connection outlets, then to physically wire up the rest of the house you have to do the same. Time is money as well not just buying hardware, the house clearly is not "New" or modern, so there were some hefty materials blocking the WiFi signal, creating a mesh network to separate each individual entertainment floor into its own Wi-Fi hub was not a bad solution at all, its the preferred solution with the issue is being explained here. People saying "just get a WAP, and run cat5e cable to it through the attic. Its that simple and cheaper." WAP doesn't exactly come cheap either...they can be between 100-200$ as well depending on which brand you go far. look at the situation before with 1 network device handling 3 floors of WiFi, and then looking at it after you see that it can not only accommodate the family of the house but guests of the house as well. Wifi for first floor ---- goes from 90 mbps to 230mbps --- handles people on 1st floor Wifi for 2nd floor --- goes from 40 mbps to 230 mbps --- handles people on 2nd floor Wifi for basement --- goes from 16 mbps to 230 mbps -- Handles people in basement The upload speed for his service is garbage anyway and if uploading photos at 5-10 mbps is a no deal on this type of network solution for you then nothing will satisfy you. Photos range from .5 - 8 MB not hundreds of MB...also back ups only append new data not existing data, so your phone won't re-backup 200 GB every-night. It will check existing items as back up and then only add items that are not backed up. Also back ups happen over night while you are asleep, I do not see a problem where its 8 hrs of uninterrupted uploading at 5-10 mbps (mega-bits per SECOND). There was nothing wrong with the solution here, except some more detailed explanation into the choices of the hardware and implementation of the solution would have been nice to have.
@jjjacer
@jjjacer 2 года назад
for the most part i agree, although you can get cheaper WAP's (im using a 30$ tplink while only 802.11n its for my garage which only has smart devices and a tablet. and technically it can be programmed to be a repeater), also the video i dont think mentioned setting the modem to bridge mode so you are not double NATing the wifi devices (needing to go through two routers to hit the internet, which can cause issues with online game matchmaking and as others mentioned IoT devices) The biggest issue i see in mesh technology is when you start to get a large amount of wifi devices on your network (IoT stuff, laptops, tablets, phones) it can start loosing speed as with mesh you have more overhead with the Mesh AP's having to communicated back and forth between each other along with the other wireless devices connected to the Mesh APs. It will pretty much come down to usage, and DIY skills along with what type of home you live in. I can run my own ethernet and i live in a mobile home so access underneath is fairly easy, just need a long auger bit and some cable pulls and i usually can get a new line run in under an hour. Im also a cheap skate so 2 of my AP's i got used for free, they only do 802.11a/b/g and 2.4ghz, but i only have my Iot devices on them (lights, speakers, sensors) as they dont need as much bandwidth. But if use case is light with a few devices this solution should be fine, doesnt work for me but i got the knowledge and skills to do a more complex network (modem thats bridge only - no built in router, ubiquiti edgerouter, 24 port switch, and 4 AP's including an ubiquiti AC for high speed devices, 2 old cisco aironets on a seperate ssid, vlan, and channel for IoT , and a tplink in my garage, i might have a total of $400 in hardware including the modem, edgerouter, ubiquiti AP, managed switch, and tp-link AP. the cisco's i got for free from a business throwing them out. but then again im running close to 100 IP's on my network between computers, tablets, phones, TV, game consoles, IoT devices, WifI security cameras, and several virtual machine game servers.
@lqdxoni1
@lqdxoni1 2 года назад
some legacy devices hate mesh networks as they blend all three signals as if one , asus ax600 can seperate the bands also products like sonos sometimes get angry riding another mesh network generally fixedd by patches , the eeros only have two ports so you may need a switch if wanting to wire a home office or gaming area.
@FJB2020
@FJB2020 2 года назад
@@lqdxoni1 I got rid of my mesh for that very reason.. my wifi devices always dropped out because they were combining the signal..
@fictionalgaming912
@fictionalgaming912 2 года назад
@@lqdxoni1 of course some dowhich if the device is stationary most likely will remain on a single AP. Also which is why almost every ISP hardware will support meshing. If not then by some research and effort you can use 3rd party hardware for meshing. The device thing communicating with different APs in the mesh can usually usually and I stress it “usually” solved by manually setting the WiFi channels. Space them out to prevent any unwanted complications. Even my legacy devices don’t have issues with my mesh network I set up. Of course doesn’t mean everyone has a smooth sailing experience like myself. It all comes down to the personal home and what the network needs are of that home. For this customer this set up was a perfect solution just not the only perfect solution for their situation. Looking at the experience, and general IT knowledge and use case…the more plug and play for the guy the better.
@fictionalgaming912
@fictionalgaming912 2 года назад
@@jjjacer your home setup is what I have as well and my enterprise experience also helped fix any unwanted errors and issues of course. When we look at the customers IT knowledge and experience - while I personally wouldn’t go with eero and there are, I think cheaper mesh setups out there, the fact it was practically plug and play for Him and only required a total of 3 new devices that are powered via wall outlet with no additional Ethernet runs for POE - perfect solution for him and his use case. Like I could run cable to all the areas I need but my setup doesn’t warrant that. My next run is a doozy and will be when I can get the ubiquiti cameras and that. Of course my comment was specifically targeting those saying everything in the video was wrong, too expensive, and a waste of time. All the while suggesting more technical solutions which required more knowledge then the customer had. Of course TOH would have done the install, most likely off camera options were given and discussed with the customer and we only see the after effect of those discussions. When we look at the bandwidth usage for 1080P - it’s around 1-3 mbps but you want a comfortable 4-8mbps to prevent buffering. Each Device can support 10/100 mbps at a minimum. He was also getting 300 mbps down so if we spread it out between 3 total floors that’s 100mbps of WiFi speed with built in channel optimization and device band allocation. Even if 3 people were doing 4K streaming on the same floor, you are still looking at plenty of left over bandwidth for the other 2 floors. Now since it doesn’t look like anyone is running hard cable to computer towers we can assume that the devices in the house will only be on WiFi. So unless there are 35 people using 10 mbps per floor at the same time, the customer will not run into any slow downs. I would say on average the single bandwidth usage of a device in that house would be between 8-20mbps and they do not look like a family that will be using 2-3 devices utilizing combined predicted bandwidth of 30-60 mbps.
@johnbaptist7476
@johnbaptist7476 2 года назад
Hello can this devices work with non-satelitte motom ? Like verizon
@joshualafrance7485
@joshualafrance7485 2 года назад
Get a linksys ea9500 tri-band router, which can be found on eBay at average $120 used. Combine the 2 5g networks together into one, so you’ll ideally have (1) 2.4 ghz and (1) 5 ghz band. Centrally locate modem/ router. Your 2.4 band will push just about 100-120mbps, your 5g band will be DOUBLE!! (I’m pushing 233mbps on a 100 mbps service) you will not have any issues. Another good tip is (in my instance spectrum) get a doxis 3.1 modem, it’s an updated model/software which will help with signal and speed.
@GotWire
@GotWire 2 года назад
you need to run a cat5 or cat6 from modem to access points!well worth the effort and will make it work alot better!!!!
@TheLivedeath
@TheLivedeath 2 года назад
If they sent Keith or Scott out instead of Ross. They wouldve just relocated the router existing or added separate cheapo one.
@Cristian-pw1iv
@Cristian-pw1iv 2 года назад
yeah, no point in touting two 5ghz bands if one is used as wifi backhaul
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 2 года назад
Cat5 is only good for 100 Mb/s and his plan from the isp is 200Mb/s so he should run Cat5e or Cat6. Although cat5e will get the job done Cat6 is the better option. Cat6 has significantly less cross-talk because the twisted pairs are wrapped around a plastic core/tube.
@wademiddleton7098
@wademiddleton7098 Год назад
I want to run my Xbox at faster speeds so am I able to buy one mesh and put it upstairs by my Xbox or do I have to buy to in order to put it by my Xbox and the router downstairs
@bikingchupei2447
@bikingchupei2447 2 года назад
3:46 what happened to this test closet to the router with the highest ping?
@robertcollins7515
@robertcollins7515 2 года назад
Don't know when TOH brought tech in, but i like it.
@d.t.1470
@d.t.1470 2 года назад
The comments are worth far more than this whimsical video
@tomburton8239
@tomburton8239 Год назад
Wonderful: no channel conflicts (no neighbours), and skipped over the mesh setup nightmare. What could possibly go wrong?
@ryans413
@ryans413 5 месяцев назад
Wifi extenders work great the thing with them is you can’t be too close to the router and you can’t be to far away got to balance it in the middle. If you use the mesh feature the extender and the router work as one with one access point. If you don’t have the mesh features the extender works as a booster with a separate access point. When using it in the mesh setting any devices close to the extender will automatically use the extender because it’s the strongest signal and devices close to the router will use that. The router will automatically handle what traffic goes to the extender based on what device is accessing the internet. When the extender is being used as a booster you’ll have a separate access point you have to log into and the router dose not automatically choose what data is sent the extender is just boosting the signal. The mesh feature works the best with the router and the extender.
@akitasofchiyokokensha2962
@akitasofchiyokokensha2962 2 года назад
After reading the comments, a lot has been said already but i would like to add 1 thing, in the basement 1 of the mesh repeaters was placed on a subwoofer. Best not to do this ever 😅
@ronmckay9037
@ronmckay9037 2 года назад
Why is spending money the answer? You do not need a mesh to fix the problem but bless your hearts for trying
@jptrainor
@jptrainor Год назад
So the answer is to spend $200-$400 dollars on a mesh network. In the process you blanket your neighbors with multiple channels of spectrum to run the mesh backhaul. Everyone's equipment ends up in contention fighting for a free channel. Couldn't just run coax to a more central location in the house? Maybe run an ethernet cable to a better located access point? Run an ethernet cable to fixed equipment that has the option of using a wired network?
@aguyandhiscomputer
@aguyandhiscomputer 6 месяцев назад
Ah, the old tug test. Works every time.
@vestel777
@vestel777 2 года назад
My problem is - Is there are NO LINKS to go get these items at the Local Best Buy. I know it was a Mesh Network and what was the power brick called???? Plus the other issue was a STEP BY STEP of how to set it up. Meaning it didn’t show how or what to configure on the TV and or router.
@jamedlock83
@jamedlock83 10 месяцев назад
9:00 I'm watching This Old House watch This Old House. . lmao
@SDRLG
@SDRLG 2 года назад
Common mistake. Did not set the modem-router combo into bridge mode, causing double-NAT. Will be very problematic for IoT devices. Also far better to use MoCA as backhaul for wireless "mesh" systems at the very least, if CAT runs are not feasible.
@Egleu1
@Egleu1 2 года назад
Moca adapters are expensive. Modern wifi mesh networks work perfectly fine.
@aurvaroy6670
@aurvaroy6670 2 года назад
@@Egleu1 I would never solely on WiFi. Even if I didn't have any wired devices, I would prefer hardwiring each AP rather than using WiFi. Then again, I live in a one story house with attic only so running CAT was very straightforward. Yes, MoCA can be expensive but it's faster speed than powerline adapters and way less work than running network cables. Many houses like mine have cable jacks that are completely unused since no one has a TV in every room. So you can't go wrong with MoCA adapters. You can always buy used and/or sell them after running networking to those locations.
@aurvaroy6670
@aurvaroy6670 2 года назад
Oh that's what bridge mode is for. I should've done that back when I was renting ISP gateway.
@demagab
@demagab 2 года назад
But at least he installed one UPS for the router and AP and one for the cable amplifier
@jamedlock83
@jamedlock83 2 года назад
He didn't have to set up bridge-mode. That's not required. I never do, and I don't have any problems at all.
@mrkhone
@mrkhone 2 года назад
Where can I get that splitter booster?
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