How to fix video card sag FOR FREE! 

I feel that more high end cases, anything over USD$100, should have integrated GPU support brackets.

I dont even have the money for sagging gpu's, why am I watching this lol

lego pillar. that is all

Dude is just cranking away at those cards lol. "See this sag? We don't want that." *Proceeds to bounce the card up and down violently

BRILLIANT! Thanks Jay

Personally I think the GPU manufacturers should ship each GPU with a GPU Viagra . Problem solved .

I'm gonna buy a spiderman figure and make it look like he's hanging from the top of the case and webbing the gpu to take the sag away.

"So what I would usually do... is drop the screw" Looks like you've been hanging out with Linus too much

@JayzTwoCents - years ago back in 2011 I found your Channel and I sent you a friend request so we could start playing Battlefield 3 together. You had maybe a few hundred subcribers then and I got to play with you a couple of times. We never spoke but I wanted you to let you know that your story and your channel inspired me to create my channel and start creating content.

My brother's card sagged to a point of not connecting to the mother board. After trying everything I could, including this, and it would still not stop sagging, I said fuck it and just laid the case on it's side. Ez fix.

There was waaay to much unnecessary shaking of expensive gpu's.

Whether you tighten the traditional screws, or apply Jay's method of screws behind the card, you are stressing the joint between the graphics PCB and backplate. It depends. How much stress do you want to lay off the pcei socket versus the graphics pcb. On the other hand a Suspender and hooks releases all types of stress 😉

Mine's not big enough to sag :(

This is when having a 3D printer comes super handy :)

"So this is where you fix your sack" Me a 40 year old: "Go on..."

This is like root-canal therapy for PC's. They certainly won't enjoy it, but it will benefit them in the long run.

"GPU erectile dysfunction" earned that like.

The wedge you're using for the second set of cards looks a hell of a lot better than the sag stands.

Uh physics dude.. if weight is causing it to sag on one end, you don't wedge the other end unless you want to add more pressure to the center. You don't wanna do that with a GPU, because then you're just adding even more pressure to the PCI-E lane. So thats why they sell GPU brackets, because it supports the end where the sag occurs, not the end already supported. You're just adding more pressure, and thus while your sag may be gone, it's putting more strain on your PCI-E lane.. rip.

I have make I little Lego "tower" that support the corner from the side that goes down

I have to say, I haven't watched your videos in a while simply because the content or advice given seems to have been done to death on other tech channels or older videos of yours. However, this was a genuinely helpful tip: Simple, aesthetic, and well demonstrated. Big thumbs up. This should be the first video that comes up under the youtube search "sagging video card".

You can always resort to putting legos under it, like I did ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

"Shitty" solution here: That little cardboard tube leftover from toilet paper is my GPU sag-fix actually. Yes, in a 2500 € PC. EDIT: I rebuilt the system and I'm using a Phanteks anti-sag GPU bracket in the Evolv X now. The sag issue is no more.

simple way.. put your case on its side.... now you have a "desktop" instead of a "tower" lol

But first you need a sagging gpu.

Oh great--a problem I never knew I had, and now I can't 'unsee' it.

I mean if you think about back in the day when the GPU mounting standard was invented. GPU's weighed nothing. They were barely more than a PCB with a tiny fan on top. Today we have giant 3 fan cards and water cooled sweetness that put to much weight on the mounting setup and PCI slot. I really wish case manufacturers would take this into account and ship cases with universal GPU supports. Who wants their sweet RGB lights showing off your GPU sag? LOL...Nobody! I run a meshify C case but I have been thinking about swapping to a case where the motherboard sits flat on its back. That way GPU sag, as well as any stress the CPU cooler is putting on the socket is eliminated. Something like a cooler master HAF XB or the Thermaltake Core V21.

Me every time Jay wiggles the GPU: 😬 "No no no no!"

4:55 "It's actually not a hole, its just a slut" - JayzTwoCents 2017

There needs to be a rethink on motherboard and PCI-E design.

Very good tip. If you consider that the design of the PCI cards is based on the desktop PC, which came onto the market 30 years ago and all "stood" vertically / high up, the designers did not really come up with new solutions.

Bwahahahaha - me watching Jay talk about how large the 1080ti is in 2021

My nan used to sag until you showed me this now she has like 0 sag! Thanks again Jay

Lay case flat. Boom. Done. For Free.

Thanks for the insights, Jay. This video is still valid and relevant! Can't believe 30xx cards have these issues! I got an ASUS 3060 TUF "Military Grade" Gpu that sags!!! That's pathetic! Haven't they take note on that already? Your last tip for rectifying the card is IMO the best: full contact on back/bottom for support should be a must for heavy and big cards.

I just use a forked wooden stick to support it. It works great and it looks cool if you add a figure hanging by the neck. Got a theme going there.

I’ve got a gtx 1070 FTW in an NZXT Manta Case, and the 8 pin power cord going to the gpu actually holds up my card pretty well

Clearly the solution to sag is to develop and market a GPU bra

I always thought this was a bad design, and I am going for horizontal mounted cases so I don’t need to worry.

self weight of GPU is a Transverse Shear Load (it will cause a Bending Moment) and without putting support at both ends, it is not possible to make the sag on the right side zero.

That doesn't take the load off of the PCI-E slot, the cards need to be supported at both ends to do that. The problem from a case manufacturers point of view is how to make a universal bracket to properly support the cards when every video card has it's own dimensions? There needs to be a standard set for them to be able to do that even if it is AMD and NVidia having their own standard.

The PCIE slot is still taking all the stress from the weight of the card, I would recommend using this or a similar method for the tabs along with a physical support for the end of the card.

Just swap your GPU out for a GeForce 210, done.

I just put 2 cents in there when using the second method

"You see it sag the second I popped it out"...

The problem really stems from the fact that the PCI/PCI-E standard edge connector was designed for cases that sat flat, rather than in a tower orientation. So there is no support there...but the problem *used* to be mitigated by the fact that there used to be a hard standard for the length of expansion cards, and most cases had card guides to support the end of the card. But...standards for card lengths have become very...inexact, so now we have the problem you are addressing.

I think they should standardise gfx card size and have a second mounting bracket on the end of the card that is then screwed into the case. Even if you wedge the cooler off the case or add the screw to the mounting slot, it still doesn't stop the pcb flexing, even with a thin metal top plate. Plus there is still a lot of weight being placed on the PCIe socket. A good strong L bracket on the opposite side of the care would totally solve the problem and I think its getting to the stage where it's needed.

Great idea! Thanks. I want to point out that this shouldn't be done while connected to any peripherals or power. Be sure to clean up any burs that may have been created while the self threading screw is tapped in place. Metal burs can ruin your day.

The best way to prevent video card sag is to be too poor to buy one and just use integrated graphics. This option is also way more free than Jay's method.

i use a little stack of my kids lego blocks. Also helps that you can choose which colour the blocks are so you will have a little prop which matches ur build

You solutions, may work for the looks, but takes no load of the PCI slot. in some cases can even increase that same load

"GPU Erectile Dysfunction" Sounds like a legit medical term.

I simply use the 8-pin pcie cables. I pass it through a hole that is above the height of the card. Those cables are kept in place with zip ties from behind of chasis and hold the card very well.

I went vertical - no more droop

You had me LMAO at ," I just thread it into the hole... Theres so many innuendos' in this video"

Thanks, but I still prefer to use a zip tie attached around the power cords going diagonally up to the HDD cages for even more support that is free as well.

What I do to avoid sag is to support some of the card’s weight with the power cables. Just route them behind the motherboard and use a hole that is slightly above the card and plug it in, then just push your card up and pull on the the cable (not too hard as to not damage the cable or the card itself), and finally anchor you cable with a zip tie. I just do this on cards that are not too heavy to prevent damaging the power connections.

Mind = blown

I bought a solid acrylic cylinder and lined it up, marked it, cut it with a plastic-cutting disc on a drimmel, then torched the surface that I cut to glass it back over. Now it sits under the sagging corner and holds it perfectly level and doubles as a glowstick because it's right under the waterblocks RGB

That's nice trick, I've always used a Popsicle stick, I measure and cut it and paint it black and wedge it in at the right height on the corner that dips down. It's easy and free too

Was anyone else not overly concerned about their graphics card sag until watching this video? lol

Pink Jay breaks immersion and is non-cannon.

The Blower (reference) cards have much less sag issues. The weight is mostly in the "front" where the HS is placed. Also the whole card is more rigid due to the enclosure, and normally not so long as the high-end aftermarket cards due to the long HS. But this is a very nice little handy fix for the PCI-E stress. You still have stress on the cards PCB. Only way to overcome this is with support at the "back" end.

I was really wondering where you were going with this video, I have to say that is actually quite an effective, free, novel approach! I don't think my MSI RX480 sags much, but I'll keep that in mind for my next build.

*Jay wiggles the ever living fuck out of 800 dollar gpu* Me: "Stop!! For the love god please stop!" Ps. Love these videos

My grandma could use something to fix her sag.

There’s holes in the back of the case in the pcie mounting slots. In the slot below the graphics card find a screw or small bolt that can turn into those holes. Find a hole that lines up with a spot on the cooling solution that you can apply pressure to (the same as how Jay used a wedge to support the Zotac Amp Extreme card). Install the graphics card, then turn the screw or bolt enough to level the graphics card. In my opinion this is better than wedging with some loose object because it can’t simply fall out.

Scooby got waves

Jay, do you think this problem would be less of an issue if case manufacturers started using soft rubber grommets on the slots for the expansion card brackets? Rubber would be compressible enough to account for variations in widths and thicknesses, and wouldn't add too much to the cost of a case, but it would better locate and hold a card in place. Do you think the recent trend of vertical mounted cards is to prevent sagging while improving aesthetics? Also, if support at the other end of the card is needed, why not have a horizontal support coming out from the wall of the case that holds the motherboard? That'd look a lot better than vertical supports, could work for multiple cards, and wouldn't be too difficult to mod.

This is low-key a game changer

The Zalman H1 case has a support which was one of the main reasons for purchasing the case. The temp sensor on the top-side automatic louvered vents could have been polished to have a threshold so it wouldn't opencloseopencloseopencloseopenclose when it hits the predetermined temp of 35° C or 45° C

You'd think that, by now, it would be abundantly clear to case manufacturers that PCI slots were never intended to serve as mechanical support of any weight, whatsoever. This is precisely why I mount all my builds with IO at the top of the case, with the GPU hanging vertically from the bracket. DIY Perks has a good example of this in his Silent PC build.

I drop the screw every time like you said, but i feel it doesn't help with the end result. This is great though, i had a home made solution which worked when i had my X58 G1 Assassin and GTX 780TI. I cut the end off a right angle sata connector, and glued a straight end from a sata connector to that, and it slot into the sata port right underneath the GPU and supported it, was pretty invisible. I wasn't worried about the stress on the sata port as it wasn't putting much weight from sagging.

The really *free* method is - you take your _vertically_ standing case and lay it down on a side. Now your case is laying down _horizontally_ and your video card is standing _vertically._ No sagging.

Just run the power cables from the top of the card instead of the bottom to create tension using the cable management holes of the case. Think of it as it's cantilevered via a suspension cable.

I lay the case down. No need for brackets if gravity is supporting it.

This GPU sag is hurting me inside. Nice video Jay! You have good methods for fixing stuff. You're awesome man.

I've been trying to think of a reason to screw the rear end of my case; thanks!

my 9 year old Asus EAH5850 has a supporting bar made of steel which is installed across the whole length of the card and eliminates all sag. Considering this card has only an entry-level cooler by today`s standards, it baffles me why this seems to be some ancient and forgotten technology with modern 3-slot cards. it also looks good and has place for the manufacturer´s logo on it.

Backplates are ALSO to help keep the pcb clean and easier to clean also..

It works for wiggle stabilization, however cards with huge heat sinks like the ASUS 1080ti still sag due to the entire card itself is flexing, being that they are too heavy. What I did was I had lifted the power cables above and zip tied the cables in place. This worked extremely well with SLI and reduces the stress on the PCI slots as well.

Both ways are excellent, good find jay

Fishing line method is by far the best. Cheap and easy to make micro adjustments to get it just right

That second trick did it for my Gigabyte Aorus 3080Ti. I used one of the case's pcie port cover thingies. Turned it sideways between the gpu cooler and the back of the case. Perfectly level!

Lay your PC down -> no sag

This is actually really smart though, about time a tech tuber found out how to solve this without buying brackets. This is pretty damn cool.... just a screw lol.

I just made a small wooden rectangle with the measurements on the card. If the small wooden rectangle was too tall I just sanded it down a bit. There you have it, without spending a cent.

If you remove the third bracket cover and attach some rigid foam or plastic to it which you have pre-measured you can solve the sagging problem and dampen vibration. Same principle as your method but utilising that spare blank cover hidden behind the card anyway. As for Vertical card mounts and heat , I have found an extra fan running at sub audible levels pointed towards the front of the case helps dissipate the heat build-up over time.

I'd be curious to know how much force/weight it actually removes from the PCI slot. Sure it makes it look better, but is it actually reducing the amount of potentially damaging force on the PCI slot? The End Support rods, likely remove more weight off the slot than this method due to actually supporting the card rather than just moving the pivot point.

I fixed my sag problem by getting myself a case with a horizontal mobo tray. And Shazam!! no more sag problem....

Ive always noted the fact that on most duel slot cards they basically leave all the weight of the cooler on the pcb alone, it would make alot of logical sence to connect the cooler shroud to the top of the cards IO plate. The only issue with your fix is possibly by securing the bottom end of the plate the card will still continue to sag, and soon you'll end up with a pretty curved pcb, it really does need a support on the ass end, only sure way to keep the card true. This sagging is caused by cooler weight and heat, so im truely amazed at how none of Nvidia or AMD nor any of their board partners have even thought about this obvious area of weakness. Im shocked at how much these new gpus cost and they still have a big io plate with totally no support at all still, a pcb isn't meant to support weight. I thought these gpu designers were professional lol. If i was charging $500 for a gpu it would come with built in support or i would at least bundle some kind of bracket support as part of the product.

-- Way late to the party, but I have an Asus Strix 4090 coming. I'm just going to prop it. Seems to me the best way to take stress off the GPU PCB, and the slot itself.

uh oh, jay caught the Linus bug, now he has the dropsies.

Damn that's a ThioJoe kinda title right there...

Late to the party but wanted to say this helped me out. Card is straight now.

because new cards are made with 3 brackets, manufactures should make a brace or beam that connects to the 3rd bottem bracket. so the card is better supported. Example, the top bracket is where the card is supported and the very bottom bracket (3rd) or all 3

*The GPU push-up bra, coming to stores near you... 😏*

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I just put a 3080 into my computer and noticed some sag, before I found this video. I scanned around on my desk and spotted a fire giant miniature I had painted awhile back but never put away, it looked like just the right height. Turns out its shoulder fits perfectly into one of the contours on the end of the card and holds it just right. Now he lives in my case lol

I would drill 2 holes near the end bottom M/B mount and place 2 bolts 1 on top 1 on bottom of the Video card to keep it in place. Second solution is have some sort of black PVC pipe mounted vertically from bottom case to the top and near the end of the GPU card cut a notch in it to have the GPU fit 1/2 way inside it and to keep it very stable and mostly make sure the black PVC pipe is pure black or use electric tape or gaffers tape to make it blacked out.