How To Fix Your Honda Odyssey's VTEC Spool Valve

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Brian Eslick from How to Automotive www.howtoautomotive.com takes you step-by-step through the process of replacing or resealing the VTEC Spool valve on a 2005-2010 Honda Odyssey.
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@HowtoAutomotive 4 года назад

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@acidfuzzpedals9986 6 месяцев назад

FYI, after the Honda dealer told me my spool valve was leaking & quoted me $778.37 for the part + labor, I decided to replace it myself. Rather than just replacing the gaskets, I bought the OEM Honda assembly (part # 15810-RKB-J01) for $115 on eBay. The replacement was easy, as this video illustrates. However, even though I torqued it to factory spec of 16 ft/lb, it leaked WORSE than the original I replaced! I then read on a forum to torque it to 20 ft/lb & one of the three bolts broke off in the block. So, I removed the assembly & got the broken bolt out using a left hand bit inside a hinge centering bit. I then asked a Honda mechanic why the OEM replacement leaked worse than the original. He told me the OEM gasket with strainer that meets up to the block is too small for the grooves & said they use an aftermarket gasket, which is thicker. He also said to use silicone sealant around the OUTSIDE rim of the assembly. I bought an aftermarket gasket (part # 917.268) from Advance Auto. I used a micrometer to measure this gasket vs the OEM Honda & it is significantly thicker. I replaced the spool valve assembly with the thicker aftermarket gasket & used a carefully applied coat of silicone sealant around the outside & torqued to 16 ft/lb. It's now completely leak free. Just wanted to post this in case anyone else finds it useful.

@user-ww9xl1cu5m 2 месяца назад

Thanks. So after market seal is better

@acidfuzzpedals9986 2 месяца назад

@@user-ww9xl1cu5m Yes. HOWEVER, there are TWO seals in the spool valve unit. One is ~external, where the spool valve mates with the engine block (has the integrated metal screen). The other gasket/seal is inside the spool valve body. Buy the kit with BOTH seals & replace the internal gasket as well with the thicker aftermarket version. It's just a few bolts to pull the spool valve body apart & change the internal gasket. Mine started leaking from the internal gasket after I installed it. So, I had to pull it off again & replace the internal seal with the thicker aftermarket version. A lot easier to do both at the same time, rather than find out it still leaks & have to pull it off again.

@troppe4295 Месяц назад

Is this applicable to the 2005 EX-L. I'm replacing a second alternator in 5 months. I need to do the same. Mine has over 3K miles.

@acidfuzzpedals9986 Месяц назад

@@troppe4295 I'm not sure, but I think yes. When I brought my 2007 EX-L in to the dealer to have them confirm the location of the oil leak, the service advisor asked me if I've had to replace the alternator yet. He explained that a leaking spool valve kills alternators. I assume the oil coats the windings & prevents them from cooling, which burns them out.

@zoellar11 Год назад

This video is how all car repair videos should be; informative, with great video (no shaking) and no doubt a very experience mechanic doing the work. Brian, if you were local, I know who I would have have to do my replacements. Thanks!

@robertstone220 2 года назад

I looked at other videos on this subject and your video was by far the best one. Thanks for a clear precise presentation.

@arthurfricchione8119 4 года назад

Excellent video. Thanks much for taking the time to show us 👍

@davehanson88 4 года назад

Brian great video, loved the quick pace to get through all the steps! very informative.

@HowtoAutomotive 4 года назад

dave hanson Glad you like the video. Thank you for watching!

@Usmanthemecano 4 года назад

Welcome back Brian ;)

@ahmadghosheh3104 Год назад

Took me about 30 minutes to replace the spool valve, old one had issues even after regasketimg and replacing oil pressure switch. Anyway, for the small evap tank, there's a clip at ita bottom, push down and slide it off the braket, no need to remove the bracket.

@Roarman57 4 года назад

Thanks for the video! And the reminder! I’m going to go look at my j37 now and see if the spool valve is leakin. Just for S&G’s

@tdz69 Год назад

What a great video! Just replaced this on my 07 odyssey (along with the oil filter housing gasket). Saved me a boatload by doing it myself. Many thanks for this video!! The tip about the paper in the socket was golden.

@HowtoAutomotive Год назад

Glad the video was helpful thank you for watching!

@petrusincraian198 4 месяца назад

There is a second gasket which should be replaced . The Vtec Spool Valve should be split in half and in between the halves there is another gasket. On my Honda Odyssey 2006 that one was very brittle when I replaced. Evap can slide from the bracket without removing the 2 bolts. Thanks for taking the time to do the video.

@christopherhaak9824 4 месяца назад

Absolutely correct.

@diedericho 3 года назад

Excellent video, I see you did not change the second gasket behind the metal plate.

@radickd2 11 месяцев назад

Thanks, Brian!! Great video and well explained!! You earned another subscriber.

@HowtoAutomotive 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching and the sub !!

@patrickbrendaharris Год назад

Just 1 thing why did u not replace the other gasket in-between the vtech solenoid

@rodritejedart 3 года назад

Thanks for video, I appreciate it happy Thanksgiving

@ozzstars_cars 4 года назад

Can't tell you how many times I have dropped a small 10mm nut. ;-) Good details, looks like that valve had been leaking oil for a lonnnng time!

@rafatsarama5025 Год назад

you really good doing your job and Explain what you doing …. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅

@Giovanniko1 Год назад

Most 10mm hex bolts are good at 12nm. If you look across, enough manuals whether, honda, Chrysler..... The torque is not always specific to the manufacturer, unless a stretch bolt etc, it's more specific to the grade and size of the thread. There are charts around that will give you a guide. If the gasket on the front of this is that hard, the o-rings on the solenoid valve will also be up for changing. I've changed those before changing the front gasket as makes a nice mess when it leaks. Good job.

@sueryba8623 Год назад

YUP...I just did the main spool valve and upon test driving I needed the additional solenoid gaskets too...leaking there as well! So suggest you order the entire kit not just the main spool valve.

@Giovanniko1 Год назад

@@sueryba8623 Umm...okay...all I can say is that it never pays to be cheap and we always change all the related gaskets on a customers vehicle with OEM parts as their complaints of a leak are a bigger cost than the complaints for the extra bill. Don't hate your local mechanic, there's a reason he's there.

@heyitschinoable 4 года назад

As always job well done

@Hafke88 11 месяцев назад

Great video. Thank you very much. How much different is the process for a next generation Odyssey or more specifically, a 2014? Last question, what can I expect to pay for this service to be done?

@voa23 Год назад

Superb Video thanks!

@HowtoAutomotive Год назад

Thank you!!

@draytonPW Год назад

Thanks so much for the video. Is there also a spool valve on the front passenger side of engine or is that someting different?

@myhockeychannel3406 4 года назад

I'm trying to replace my Front Spool Valve Assembly on my 2009 Odyssey Touring, but can't seem to figure out how to remove the old one. Do you have a video or guide me to where there is one as I can't seem to find a video that shows how to remove the complete Spool Valve.

@patrickbagnano1561 4 года назад

Why didn’t you change the inner seal between the two pieces of the spool valve?

@tunkhannock_autotech 5 месяцев назад

Anyone know the part # for the inner seal? Did the gasket in this video but leaking from inner seal.

@TheCgraham18 3 года назад

Awesome job this is very very well done

@HowtoAutomotive 3 года назад

Thank you!

@TheCgraham18 3 года назад

Do you happen to know if this procedure would be the same on a 2011 odyssey ex-l or how different it truly would be? Do you recommend gasket sealant by permatex to hold the gasket/seal it? Is it likely my actual valve assembly is bad or likely just the seal? I have an oil leak from there apparently Honda says and I am mechanically decent. Thank you for your time and I hope you see this.

@wiimaster2847 Год назад

It's worth noting this is not a VTEC spool valve. it is for the VCM system. In fact, these engines do not have actual VTEC.

@Penguin545 3 года назад

Btw the application for this valve is 05-07 odyssey, 05-07 accord, 06-08 Pilot fwd only. The later years use spool valves on both the front and rear head ( one closest to the master cylinder and the other above the alternator). On the later years the spool valve leaking engine oil on the alternator will cause it to fail prematurely.

@mattwood3416 2 года назад

Would this work for the 2004 accord

@Penguin545 2 года назад

@@mattwood3416 according to rock auto your 04 should not have a spool valve assembly- an 05 accord does but it’s missing in the catalog for an 04 accord. As I understand it if your black plastic engine cover days “VCM” then your engine will have a spool valve assembly on it, if it says VTEC and doesn’t mentions VCM then it should not have this valve. If you have an oil leak on your 04 accord from the back head area then I would suspect the valve cover gasket (do a whole lot with grommets and tube seals) and if that doesn’t fix it then the o-ring on the rear head for the camshaft cover cap- that cap is held in with 2 12mm fasteners. The cam caps get varnished with age and can be very difficult to remove and install which will cause your o-ring to roll or get sliced- I’ve even broke them before- might consider buying the cover with the o-ring. The cover is visible on this video and is located about 2” below the Vcm solenoid shown being removed.

@pcno2832 Год назад

I found a listing for the spool valve that included the 3.0 L engine in the '05-'07 Accord Hybrid, but no other 3.0L engine, the rest were 3.5 L engines in the Odyssey and Pilot.

@jimthecarguy 4 года назад

Nice video .Very informative .I'm new to you channel . I just subscribed

@HowtoAutomotive 4 года назад

Thank you Jim! I’ve been following you for about a year now. You have a nice Channel That’s helping a lot of people.

@pcno2832 Год назад

According to one parts listing, this spool valve also fits the '05-'07 Accord Hybrid, but no other 3.0 L engines.

@romanracing883 4 года назад

Brian, you mention in the beginning of the video that this gasket fits 05-10 Odyssey but when I try to search the part number it does not appear to equate to the 2010 model. Can you confirm that it does work for all 5 model years? I am hearing from Honda that they used to sell the gasket but now they only sell the kit which I think includes the entire spool valve assembly which goes for something like $150. What you did looks pretty darn easy and would rather replace just the gasket vice the entire assembly if the gasket never changed. Thanks, great video by the way!!

@christopherhaak9824 4 месяца назад

Both gaskets are available on Rock Auto for less than $9. This only applies to VTEC engines, which will depend on the model for specific years.

@farukatasever2933 4 года назад

Super tutoring,and EXECUTION. Bravo.👏 I Subscribed.THANKS.

@HowtoAutomotive 4 года назад

Faruk Atasever thank you again!

@christopherhaak9824 4 месяца назад

The small black air box with the two hoses unclips from the tab underneath it, Unclip it. It is far easier to remove it first and then take the spool valve off instead of removing the bracket from the spool valve. When you have the spool valve off, you should remove the bolts and split it and replace the second gasket between the two halves, it is likely leaking also. There are better videos out there than this one, just do a quick search for them.

@pebblesandtootsie 2 года назад

great video, not sure where you're located but I would bring my vehicle to you to fix

@wattsobx 6 месяцев назад

Is this the same for the 2008 rear spool valve? I have an 08 and i think they are different but many descriptions always say 2005-2010?

@turtlewax2 4 года назад

Is this the same procedure for a 2011 crosstour?

@jonathonportillo5998 3 года назад

Thanks for the informative video! My dealer said that the VTEC assembly is leaking on my 2007 Honda Pilot and quoted $1300 to fix. Is this the same thing as the VTEC Spool Valve?

@tylermarshall6714 2 года назад

Yes

@MrMianfsd 2 года назад

Helo sir, i changed the gas kit and i was tightening the bolt but unfortunately bottom left side one bolt got free, now one top and one bottom right side bolt are tight but lower left side bolt is just moving its not tight, plz advise what should i do, i started the engine, its not leaking, but spool valve is depending on 2 bolts only.....

@joecox9958 3 года назад

Note the procedure would be fit for EX/EXL only

@Mannyliz26 4 года назад

I have a 2010 honda pilot that is leaking oil around that area, I’ve just replaced the valve cover gasket so I know is not that, but my question is does having a leaking V TECH solenoid Gasket makes the engine lose power? I feel like is missing power, I used to have a 2004 pilot and it was way faster.. please respond thank you...

@antiangelofmusic 2 года назад

I see your comment is a year old but I hope you disabled the vcm system. Variable cylinder management. Where is your motor out faster and creates oil burning issues.

@carhoarder602 Год назад

There is another U shape gasket that goes inside the spool valve if you take the other screws off

@tunkhannock_autotech 5 месяцев назад

Do you have the part # for the inner u shape gasket?

@carhoarder602 5 месяцев назад

@@tunkhannock_autotech no I don’t

@tonpear5909 3 года назад

The coverage of this first generation VCM system is not 05-10 Odyssey. 08-10 Odyssey use the second generation twin bank VCM. This first gen VCM system and spool valve covers 05-07 Odyssey (EX-L and Touring), 05-07 Accord Hybrid, and 06-08 Pilot 2WD.

@bournebergeron3765 Год назад

Great comment! To confirm: this video is not for a 09 LX Odyssey?

@pedrokim7435 6 месяцев назад

Is weird. Mine is a 2010 Odyssey Ex and doesn't have twin bank, is exactly like this video

@tonpear5909 6 месяцев назад

@@bournebergeron3765Correct. Your 09 LX has the more basic system called VTEC. Its controller housing is bolted to the oil filter housing, accessible through the right front wheel well opening.

@tonpear5909 6 месяцев назад

@pedrokim7435 True, your 2010 EX doesn't have "twin bank" valve controls, but it is NOT like the system in this inaccurately titled video. Your EX has VTEC, a simpler system with a controller bolted to the oil filter housing. The VCM engine in this video was used in 05-07 Odyssey EX-L and Touring models. It has a single controller mounted to the rear of the bank 1 (firewall side) cylinder head. This controller disables cylinders 1-3 when it is active. VCM2 is an updated version of VCM used on some 08-17 Odyssey. Specifically addressing 2010 Odyssey, VCM2 is only found on EX-L and Touring models. VCM2 does have two controllers, one mounted on the front of each of the two cylinder heads. The bank 1 controller can disable cylinders 1-3 at once (like VCM), then there's a less aggressive Eco mode where bank 1 disables cylinder 3 while bank 2 disables cylinder 4. Your VTEC system just increases valve lift at high load/RPMs for increased power. VCM is more complicated; it disables cylinders during low load driving modes for increased fuel economy.

@acidfuzzpedals9986 7 месяцев назад

I've read on forums the Honda dealer will also coat the exterior edges of the spool valve with a Hondabond sealant when they replacing the spool valve. I'm getting ready to do mine & would like to know your opinion as to whether or not this is preferred, or possible detrimental to a good seal? Also, I've read the spool valve also has another internal gasket, which can also leak, and is not available aftermarket, even from Honda. Therefore, some people recommend replacing the entire spool valve assembly, not just the external gasket & screen where it mates to the block. What are your thoughts? Has anyone here replaced just the gasket as shown in this video & still had a leak?

@richardtreadwell5338 7 месяцев назад

Yes I replaced both gaskets Including The one in internally And after running good for a couple weeks the 2646 code came back. So... I'm going to replace the spoil valve this time That way I know that the The two sensors are good to go As well. I'm Unfortunately going to have to go with an aftermarket spool valve As I don't have the money for the OEM part Reply

@acidfuzzpedals9986 7 месяцев назад

Ok, thanks for the info. Did you use any sealant like Hondabond, or just replace the gaskets? Did you have any more leaks if just using the new gaskets alone? I've heard reports of the spool valves still leaking without also using Hondabond sealant around the outside.@@richardtreadwell5338

@tunkhannock_autotech 5 месяцев назад

@@richardtreadwell5338 do you by chance have the part # for the inner seal/gasket?

@saidodiman8364 2 года назад

Sir what are the symptoms of bad spool valve? Thanks a lot

@HowtoAutomotive 2 года назад

Most of the time it’s just the check engine light. Sometimes you can feel some sluggishness or poor fuel economy

@camilovelez8797 4 года назад

My Odyssey is shaking between 20 and 30 mileages only if I press the gas really slow you think this will solve my problem?

@jeffschwartz8900 2 года назад

Replace your engine mounts

@gmo976 2 года назад

On my Honda civic I did the exact same procedure but for some reason the spool valve even with the new gasket it occasionally continues to leak: Anyone here who may have experienced the same problem or know the reason why? I'm still trying to figure it out

@joecox9958 2 года назад

very similar but my 08 Odyssey LX has no such valve at this position! any body know where is it?

@lambertj.2892 2 года назад

front left of the engine.

@fernandososa4316 4 года назад

06 Odyssey with 287k miles. I replaced the spool valve with an OEM part purchased at the dealer. VSA light came back on. The dealer said they have to relearn the valve and charge $150. Any suggestions on the relearn part, or how to? Thanks.

@HowtoAutomotive 4 года назад

Fernando Sosa it requires a scanner to do it.

@fernandososa4316 4 года назад

How to Automotive I’m a little skeptical about the relearn part. I enjoy working on my cars and learning. I have a g35 with 325k on original motor and the odyssey with about 280k. After I installed the spool valve, check engine light came on in the first 4 miles. Drove it for two days and it went off on its own. Came back on with a P0946 after about 4 weeks. I also topped up my oil with high mileage mobile1 5w-30. This oils swells seals. I’m wondering if it swoll the gaskets inside the new spool valve. Could it just be that this part was defective from factory? I’m discarding engine sludge as I just finished a valve cover gasket job and those valve couldn’t have a been any cleaner.

@sombongi 4 года назад

When I changed my 06 odyssey it was a plug and play.of course had to clear the misfire codes but didn’t do no relearn adaptation.

@Giovanniko1 Год назад

Doesn't need a relearn...it's a lie so you give it to them do change...I'm a mechanic...these are just tricks

@elperrocovero 2 года назад

Hello. I have a 2006 honda pilot. Oil damaged my alternator. How do I know where the oil is coming from

@waholoopesorry74 4 месяца назад

If it is leaking onto your alternator it is most likely your valve cover gasket

@trouble3574 4 года назад

So I have a 2005 Honda Odyssey EXL and I have an engine code popping of of P2646 and it’s saying it could be multiple things but someone told me to just replace the gasket because it can get clogged up which is the reason the code is popping up.

@HowtoAutomotive 4 года назад

Is the engine oil is low and also set this code. You may wanna start with just a simple oil change clear the code and see what happens.

@trouble3574 4 года назад

How to Automotive I did a oil change and it still pops up. When it pops up the VSA light also comes on and when I’m driving it prevents the car from pushing past 3.5 rpms

@HowtoAutomotive 4 года назад

Matten R On top of the spool valves there’s a pressure sensor that goes bad. If it’s not reading well pressure the engine Will go into fail safe mode.

@cesarromero6566 4 года назад

It may be the vvt( variable valve timing) my 05 odyssey was doing the same as yours if you can replace both seals you will save 500 bucks...

@netdoctor1 2 года назад

Torque spec is 1.2 +/- 0.2Kgf-m, or 8.68 lb/ft. I might go as high as 1.4.

@Giovanniko1 Год назад

jajaja....1.2 +/- 0.2Kgf-m or 8.68 lb/ft.....how accurate do you want to go? What torque wrench are you using....no way you have that accuracy...Make it 12nm and it's done mate. And it's a Honda it doesn't speak in "lb/ft ish"

@netdoctor1 Год назад

@@Giovanniko1 Well, us Americanos have tools calibrated in Imperial standards and SAE. I grew up in a Japanese factory, so I have to work with both. I'm simply quoting the specs, and you're right: no way does my $10 Harbor Freight wrench have that kind of capability. Cheers, mate.

@MrJewelicious 4 года назад

is it the same process for honda pilot 2009?

@sombongi 4 года назад

It’s the same 3.5 engine so yes.

@guillermomontero7552 Месяц назад

Have two gasket

@tylermarshall6714 2 года назад

New gasket

@MrMianfsd 3 года назад

What spray did you use to clean it ??

@jeffschwartz8900 2 года назад

Brake and Parts cleaner

@AuxyPoxy 4 года назад

Does the oil need to be drained first?

@HowtoAutomotive 4 года назад

Auxeses YT no but you may want to change the oil after the repair.

@Giovanniko1 Год назад

You should change the seals on the oil filter housing as well, as they will be hard too and there is another solenoid down there.

@chris4814b 3 года назад

Great editing so the video is short

@jeffschwartz8900 2 года назад

Anybody ever figure out what the torque is supposed to be of the 3 bolts ???

@jeffschwartz8900 2 года назад

Most every 6mm bolt (10mm head) on the entire engine is torqued to 8.7 ft-lbs. 10mm bolts (12mm head) are torqued to 16 ft-lbs.Mar 24, 2019

@tdz69 Год назад

No need to be concerned with the torque specs on these bolts. Just snug them then give a quarter turn. You’re not dealing with bolts holding up the frame. Lol

@chanxiong7421 4 года назад

Excellent video. However, for safety purpose always take out your negative battery cable. I'm surprised, you didn't get shock. By the way, where did you buy your positive battery cap (red)? The red cap doesn't seems like OEM.

@Giovanniko1 Год назад

You're not going to get a shock of the battery!! hold both ends and you'll see. You might get a shock of a conventional HT lead, but not from the battery....maybe a little EE studies would explain why.