The early throttle feather is critical for making it work on underpowered 3" stuff, especially for big dives. That is the technique, applies to freestyle and racing.
I've always thought people focus first too hard on tuning the quad when learning good flying habits can eliminate a large percentage of the reactions they're trying so hard to tune out. Great advice man, and some really nice flying!
I do the same thing. Coming out of aggressive moves I’m always applying a little throttle to smooth it out. Throttle control is super important for fluidity
I think feathering in a little early like that helps because you are still at a pretty steep angle when you start feathering it in so you begin to generate a thrust vector that's more behind you instead of directly below you. It's always coming in too flat at the bottom that gives a lot of prop wash. So I agree!
You Mode 1 and Mode 2 pilots, need to understand that Mode 2 is the only logical solution. Your diversity is causing segregation in the hobby. Switch to Mode 2, now. lol
There are many other things besides these three. D shot idle dynamic idle d_min d max low i looses attitude and response. Rpm filtration set up strip back dynamic notch to reduce phase delay. Tpa over attenuation of pids at low throttle looses attitude reducing filtration further to allow more cpu disabling accelerometer baro ect. Get that cpu down. Share some of your settings and how you came by them thats the meat in the sandwich that other folk crave. But also great vids man love your chilled’ness as it comes across. Any tip is a good tip go deep bro. 🙏
Good tips man 👍😎As you say throttle flying clean is the ultimate way to reduce propwash, as you just demonstrated it's actually difficult to deliberately induce propwash on a clean quad once you've trained yourself to fly in a way that avoids it 😂 I've found the easiest way for me to induce propwash for tuning is to do a 180 degree flat yaw turn while going fast (cutting throttle) then pitch forward and throttle hard into the turbulent air I just created. Your setup is going to handle propwash so well on S3 props you'll probably find even that move only gives you a little bobble rather than full on oscillations 👊
It's really nice to see another Mode 3 pilot. Especially nice to see a very good one. There aren't many of us out there. I didn't know any better when I started a couple of years ago, now it's hardwired into my brain. I can not fly Mode 2...have definitely tried.
The point you make, throtteling up early in agressive manuvers, helped me 100% I fly light micros 2" - 2.5" and all I can say is 🙏🙏🙏 thank you master! No propwash here since you tought me that. MOOVE THOSE STICKS BRO 🤣🤣 throttle in early...
Applying throttle slowly is what induces prop wash. A quick high powered burst of throttle is the only thing that won’t cause horrible prop wash wobble.
Have in mind that there is much less propwash possible to do on kiss and revolt than on beta. I had S3 on my beta setup and these were the most propwashable. I am finishing my first kiss fettec setup and revolt. I get rid of beta stuff. Thanks for sharing. I like this video. Cheers m8 🔥🔥🔥🔥👍🙂
I’m starting a Apex/kiss/vista build in a couple of weeks. You have inspired me to try out KISS. I came back for you pid tutorial, but you are on 6s now, right? It would be wonderful if you could share your 6s pids as I know nothing about KISS. I’m going for 1777kv motors but a reference to get me started would be amazing.
I always think of it like how a boat leaves a trail of rough water or prop wash. A split S is as if the boat reverses back through the choppy water/ dirty air/ prop wash.
Been waiting on this one man thanks for the tips bro and thanks for replying to me about this subject through fb the hard mount on the apex instead of those rubber standoffs really helped alot so thank for everything man 👊
i use to like high pitched props but not so much now ,i love the 5x4.3 gemfans on 2450kv for 4s nice power without killing the lipo,also since ive moved up in camera angle i tend to not hit my own propwash so much compared to low tilt
I have a brand new geprc mark4 4K. It’s a 6s 1850kv weighs 622 grams rtf. I have ethic S2, S3, S4, and the stock 5043 props. Tried several props, lol. But no matter what I do it has a horrible throttle oscillation. It’ll dip sometimes. Flutter. Make jello in fpv feed. Even flip sometimes. And it’ll sound like it’s hitting things but it isn’t as there’s nothing to it. Ramp throttle up really fast for a power loop or punch out and it’ll sound horrible. Ease into it about 60% max an it’s awesome. Tune is decent as I’ve started over a few times. I have rpm filtering on. Tried it off. Tried esc tuning. Had others help me tune but it isn’t right. Motors were super hot from factory with horrible fluttering. Now they are 100* after 6-7 min freestyle at no more than 60% throttle and it’ll fly amazing. Any ideas or help? I’m open to any help at all from anywhere at this point
VIK FPV brand new? The amps for each are relatively the same. Maybe .5 amp variance between all 4. I am gonna swap from bf to emu. hopefully since the closest tuner I have is running emu this may let us both get on the same page. If not I’ll start replacing hardware. Starting with the motors as you suggested. Thank you for the advice and replying!!! Keep up the awesome content!!! It really helps folks like me learn by sight and hearing what’s going on.
Did you join the GepRC Facebook group? There are a lot of very knowledgeable guys rocking this quad that are good at tuning. They seem to achieve super smooth flights. Good luck buddy! 👊🏻
Are used S3 also and I have slight prop wash please I would like very much to try your rates out send me your rates let me see how I can work with it and also keep up the great work 👌🏽👍🏽
@@VIKFPV Hey man.. question for you... how many caps do you put on your quad? My set-up is very similar and running the cap provided with the FETtec ESC but it's like mine re-boots mid flight. There was a suggestion to add another cap to try and resolve the issue. Any thoughts? I checked for shorts and all seem good.
Hi ! Been watching your videos they’re great and many thanks for doing this !! I would love to have hints on learning to do good orbitz... I think they’re hard to do well as a beginner and could use your methods !! Best
Great tips!! Thanks so much for these videos, it’s also great to see your thumbs and what some movements look like. Had one question, what’s that countdown for?
Great video Vik! It is hard for a pro to demonstrate beginner mistakes 😉. You could refer them to my channel to see some wrong throttle management! Lol 😂 I have a 3 inch DJI Cinewhoop, where I removed the ducts and added new props. It can freestyle quite well but pilot error is definitely a factor and I think it is trickier with 3 inch lacking the power and bigger props. I tend to shy away from freestyle moves to not ruin a nice cinematic run 😂
@@VIKFPV You did a apex kiss setup video, could you do something similar for the fettec fc and 45amp esc? I want to do a fettec build, I have the fettec fc, waiting on the esc. 🤓
Can't get prop-wash? if you feather the throttle after a loop, you won't get it. Just P-loop and when vertical diving the ground, max throttle to the spot.
Man, I just get soooo much propwash and I can’t seem to tune it out. I know it’s not my flying skills or my props, maybe cheap quads just can’t fly that well. Hopefully someday I can get a quad flying as well as yours
Awesome as always man - interested on your thoughts in Fettec Kiss FC v Kiss V2? Other than integration with Fettec esc do you notice anything else? Stay safe ✌🏻😎
I just starting using a little throttle coming out of split s and power loops. My question is do u happen to know what causes throttle jerks on tight turns? So when I make a tight turns and give it a good amount of throttle on my 3” 3s 1105 5k quad it tends to jerk hard almost like a car racing when they come off the line when u punch it, jerks in one direction then grabs the air and goes.
VIK FPV ok, I’ll try that. Yeah for sure it’s a tuning issue, I been in the hobby little over a year now and have learned so much but so far pid tuning has been the biggest challenge. I appreciate the advice I’ll start there on I.
Hey Vik. As always I'm loving your tutorial. I'm inspired by your style of flying. I have too many questions as well as suggestions but I will ask 2 simple questions. How often do you fly and if I'm flying by myself most of the time could I be limiting myself to the natural learning progression. In other words things are quickly becoming well ho-hum at best. This bro wants and needs excitement in his flying. HELP!
Meeting up with other pilots to fly is fairly important for most people to progress past a certain point. I'm not as good a pilot as Vik but I fly everyday and try to meet up with other pilots at least once a week to freestyle.
Question. Since i think your 6s is kind of high kv, what is the motor temp like after about 3minutes? I seem to get warm almost hot at around 2:30 and about 3min flight time. Is that normal for that kv? Eh newb question🤷♂️ 2207.5 1925kv
Looking at your tutorials, it all seems so simple! But then when I try, I punctually crash!🙈🙈 I think she still has to do a lot of lipos, and still spend a lot of money!🤷♂️🤷♂️
