How to Flatspin and Rodeo on Skis

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In this ski tutorial, we are going to learn how to flatspin on skis and how to rodeo on skis. To learn the trick we off course have a look at what’s the difference is between the two and how the tricks are done on trampoline. Some of you are going to think they should be named the inverse but here’s my thinking. The more forwards set is possible to make much less inverted than the trick with the backward set. Thus the real flatspin should be set a wee bit forwards. I too call the crooked backflip a flat 3 every now and then to keep it simple even if I believe the correct name should be rodeo 3. The aviation industry has an explanation for what it is.
I have done my homework and I hope this video may clarify the two tricks and does not add to the confusion.
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01:30 What the difference is between a Flatspin and a Rodeo
04:03 How to rodeo 360 on a trampoline
06:07 How to rodeo 540 on a trampoline
06:42 How to flat 540 on a trampoline
08:12 What the difference is between a flatspin and a misty
08:18 How to flatspin on skis
09:50 How to rodeo 360 on skis (often called flat 3)
10:21 How to rodeo 540 on ski
10:50 Discussing what trick is what with Jacob
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Some resources:
FIS categories the two tricks into off axis group B plus don’t offer any explaination www.fis-ski.com/DB/freestyle-...
Inline skating flatspin: • Vert Skating - Flatspi...
• "Double flat spin" is ...
Henrik Harlauts Orbital maybe the most flat flatspin but with a switch take of making it some sort of rad bio: • Henrik Harlaut wins Me...
From wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeski...
Wiki= Rodeo = An off-axis flip thrown backwards with a spin (most commonly 540 - 'Rodeo 5')
Wiki= Flat Spin = An off-axis flip that is thrown over the shoulder. It is in-between a backflip and a lincoln loop.
On wikipedia they describe the flatspin and rodeo both as tricks that are set backwards. This does not make any sense to me.
What a flat spin is in Aviation: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(a...)
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@RockSnowAndSkate 4 года назад

Great video. I personally think we (freeskiers everywhere) should just agree with the definitions in this video. If nothing else, they are so well explained and illustrated we can actually see what we're talking about. Trying to agree names for subtle variants of off axis flips and spins _without_ having quality video comparisons like this is crazy (and exactly what newschoolers gets bent out of shape over on the regular!).

@antonlalabekov9681 4 года назад

nope

@vanouellette8031 4 года назад

the control you have over your body is legit incredible, that form is just perfect

@trizz9072 4 года назад

And he’s over 30 I think

@m3lfbreezy 4 года назад

He's explaining it actually very well. The comparisons side by side makes it even more easier. What i like the most is, that he initiates the rotation of the flatspin with a 'punch', just because it does a MASSIVE job for your mental game. When you still not feeling it though (that means creating the trick in your head) you might wanna look at 6:58. Pay attention to his LEFT shoulder. See how it drops down to the right once he came around while doing it in a jump? That's what made the difference for me. Thinking of the opposite shoulder to be 'dropped'/'pulled' to the right side.

@eelisholopainen4501 4 года назад

Thx 👍

@GeronimOCZECH 4 года назад

Well, I think we all agree this is the best freestyle skiing tutorials YT channel! :3

@ScrattleGG 4 года назад

Judge: Show me on your little snowboarder doll where the rail touched you

@brandoncummings4169 4 года назад

ScrattleGG 😂

@broman4998 3 года назад

Lmaooo

@shotbro8521 4 года назад

I think Jacobs right the flatspin may of came from mogel skiing and Jonny Mosley use to call it the dinner roll. The reason he did it was because at the time inverted manoeuvre's like backflips and rodeo's were banned in mogel skiing and because flatspins never actually get inverted or past horizontal they were technically still allowed.

@guitaro 4 года назад

True except the dinner roll was a cork 7

@tarungonneea4614 4 года назад

This is the content I live for!

@torinmartinez4331 3 года назад

Great video! As a rollerblader I always had this question. You cleared it up!! Would love to see you breakdown a corkscrew.

@lewisfrazier 4 года назад

Fantastic video!! This is the best video you’ve made in a while! Please do more videos like this! (Misty/Bio, Cork/Underflip maybe?)

@ethanbates5267 4 года назад

I can't wait to try these out next week!! ⛷️

@SkunkfaceNF 4 года назад

This video was great at explaining the differences between flat , rodeo, and misty.

@andrewbaines7604 4 года назад

Please do a video on tricks you can do on a button tow or a ski lift, they look so cool!

@victorpopov882 4 года назад

I’ve been waiting for someone to make a video like this for five years. Thank you lol

@ottojagenstedt9740 2 года назад

Thanks for showing me _Running from my Doom - Mama Zula_ Dope track AF fam as the kids would say

@peterminneci2307 4 года назад

Was gonna try a flat this weekend, great timing!

@richieclark9571 4 года назад

just the other day I was wondering why stomp it didn't have a tutorial on this i love you jens

@Chrrrly 4 года назад

Wut? Rodeo 360? That's a flatspin!

@pederdarre4531 4 года назад

exactly

@antonlalabekov9681 4 года назад

yeah right, buddy

@natanbtw4980 3 года назад

@Christoffer Sjöheim that's not a Lincoln loop what are u on 😂

@daletucker8098 3 года назад

Its a Modern flatspin not a true flatspin the modern flat 3 is basically a rodeo 3 but looks a little bit more flipper imo. Ive never seen someone who calls the that rodeo type trick a flatspin know what they would call a rodeo 3 its like it doesn't exist to modern flat 3 guys only a switch rodeo 5 which is basically a backwards misty which is actually accurate. Regardless I think we should just call the trick a modern flat to differtiate from a true flat because then what would a true or oribital flatspin be?

@daletucker8098 3 года назад

Basically his rodeo 3 is a modern flatspin his flatspin is a true flatspin and id argue that a rodeo 3 is kind in-between the axis of these 2 tricks

@gimligimli93 4 года назад

finally! this is my list to-do. big thanks!

@danmarinedits8229 4 года назад

Glad to finally see some clarification. Your reasoning definitely makes sense

@StompItTutorials 4 года назад

Thank you!

@viptezzz6194 4 года назад

waited for this viedoa for a long time tysm!

@skiermac4679 Год назад

Finally got backies on lock and feeling as confident as ever to try a flat 3 . So excited!

@Hesii8 Год назад

Same bro

@intokumovementcollective8970 Год назад

Dang when you did the flat 5 I thought it seemed like a misty and you read my mind 😂 thanks for the correcting lol

@CrazyMan-pu5vj 4 года назад

Great video!

@thatoneskierdude4410 4 года назад

That instagram vid was a rodeo, at least from my view. It was more "orbital", where the skis were not directly facing the sky, but out to just above the middle point.

@PRIMESkiing 4 года назад

100% on point! Great Video!

@StompItTutorials 4 года назад

Thank you :)

@chadtanner190 Год назад

I think Skogen Sprang invented the flat 5 in the half pipe on skis @ 1999/2000. J.P. Auclairs invention of the "underflip" = "backflip 180" really started the off access progressions. Jon Olsen really perfected the flat spins with multiple grabs. Thanks for the video on the differences. Very helpful.

@kiphood8145 3 года назад

Great vid man.

@gerritpilz260 4 года назад

Best tutorial ever

@jonnyradars 3 года назад

As a snowboarder I find the freeski rodeo trampoline breakdown being useful for building front cork skill, which is funny since I couldn't find anything like that on snowboard channels :)

@vekwe7033 4 года назад

Cork 5 tutorial would be nice

@CoachTrifes 3 года назад

i got you soon ;)

@temei761 3 года назад

@@CoachTrifes how bout a misty 5 tutorial daddy Trifes?

@mihaistanciu4152 3 года назад

Wheres this freestyle academy and park that you are filming these amazing videos?...looks awesome 😁

@alexanderigleheart4436 5 месяцев назад

johnny mosley did inent it because he wasnt aloud to go inverted in mogul comps back in the day so he made it when he was skiing at squaw/palisades tahoe and it was a good trick to make look good coming down legs together aswell

@MoonWalkerTexsRanger 4 года назад

Tried my first rodeo 7 in snowpark today. Almost landed it on 1st try, but every time I tried it again, I felt worst and worst try after try. I hate it when it happens, because I can feel I’m getting bad habits and after it’s much harder to perfect the trick. (Took me so long to get a correct 360 with grab in this same situation) Does this happens to some of you as well?

@benjaminroth 4 года назад

Loved it.

@Leon-os1uk 4 года назад

Yes new video

@bojkogasper9145 4 года назад

Going in Laax this saturday. Cant wait!

@StompItTutorials 4 года назад

Enjoy!

@tcluff1442 4 года назад

This video hits it right on you should do a video on bios not to sure what bios are haha

@hal94 4 года назад

epic video!

@Arnie777nvc 4 года назад

Hey man, just a quick question. Will there be other camps this year? Really wanna come and progress a bit further under your guidance!

@burntgrass8066 4 года назад

Great vid on some more advanced tricks, really clears things up I think that it’d be cool for a video explaining all off axis spins, I’ve looked around and haven’t been able to find anything too helpful on this Maybe include: corked, rodeo & flat, bio, misty, d-spin, and or anything that has been done. I. E. What a kangeroo flip is, or other weird spins

@StompItTutorials 4 года назад

I think that is a good idea.

@izenlonghurst4589 2 года назад

@@StompItTutorials Actually I have about those off axis spins as well. What's the difference between a flatspin and a corked 5? And while I have you here, thanks so much for these videos they have helped me so much. How could I prepare preseason to be a better freestyle skier?

@lebrocken1613 4 года назад

for me what you call flatspin , was always a sideflip and what you call rodeo was a flat spin. But i also didnt know what a rodeo was till know, so i think im not really qualified to argue here😂 i will use your naming now.

@BBoyLilBlaze07 3 года назад

Question : Flat 3 is possible or flat 3 is a rodeo 3? Rodeo you look the kick on your back and the réception, and flatspin : you jump and look the sky on your back or up of montain and after u lookin the réception its the only different no?

@lync6223 3 года назад

underrated

@SkunkfaceNF 4 года назад

How about a vid explaining and demonstrating corks and bio.

@gustavkiellbergandersen885 4 года назад

Almost 200k Suns keep pushing

@gustavkiellbergandersen885 4 года назад

Subs*

@evan2422 4 года назад

Hey stomp it tutorials this video was great i was wondering what music you used for the different between a flat spin and rodeo on the tramp so I could use it on my channel for ski edits (jff edits)

@jonasschweizer3934 2 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QT0HRZhTxnw.html ;)

@pepitko 4 года назад

@jonolsson what do you think?

@spencer_gray 4 года назад

Can you do the difference between rodeo 3 vs cork 3 vs flat 3 ?

@JackHandelman 3 года назад

Textbook perfection. Show us your own steeze too pls

@shredcavemedia3764 4 года назад

Do a "DINNER ROLL" ! :)

@grahambrake5495 Год назад

Your rodeo and flat spin are the exact opposites of what I know but it’s still chill cause I just reverse them and I can still learn

@24Renger 4 года назад

Can you do a misty tutorial please? 🙏

@dronalpes9705 4 года назад

I agree a lot about the overhead factor for the names but not that much in terms of the « forward » thing. I think a lot of your flatspins are some bio. To me a flatspin is backwards but flatter than a rodeo. Anyway great video 👏🏼

@remco9501 4 года назад

what for skis do you have?

@whistlerboy_x7_886 3 года назад

I learned that rodeos were less flippy and flats were more, hues I have it the other way around

@Sn0wman5 4 года назад

Please do a Info vid when you‘re announcing the new camps in winter 2020

@Sn0wman5 4 года назад

I mean late 2020

@Brodymane 5 месяцев назад

When I was trying rodeos yesterday I was setting them into my underflip. Then when I tried to corrected it corrected it into a flat spin. (Unintentionally) cool thing is I can flat spin now. Frustrating thing is I can’t set the rodeo rotation. Undeflips are my thing so my body wants to muscle memory go into that motion. Even in the air. I’ll kinda set rodeo then my brain just takes it back to under flips. Anyone have any advice?

@lc2007lc 2 года назад

What’s that mini figurine you used?

@afkzocker7966 4 года назад

Once I jumped over a big ski-jump but I was too slow so I hit the ground pretty hard and didn't even land on the back side of the jump where it goes down hill again. I landed on the straight ground. I also had a little back position so I landed on my heels. Now they are hurting since then but the doctor says it's all right but it's still hurting. That was about 2 years ago. Do you know what I could do? And also I can't enjoy jumping that much anymore because I'm always scared that the pain gets worse so I'm scared of jumping higher and further... Do you have any experience or tips on these 2 things?

@misterdekabrist 4 года назад

1. Go see an osteopath! 2. Watch his videos on how to deal with fear

@afkzocker7966 4 года назад

Mini @@misterdekabrist yeah I did both but it didn't help

@sanderm4335 4 года назад

Were du you ski? Is it falera? And will you be doing more advanced camps i the future? Would love to join a course if the skill lvl would be somewhat higher! Thanks for the great content!

@31113AssKicker31113 4 года назад

sander mattson he skis in laax due to a sponsorship

@sanderm4335 4 года назад

Nick Zee whats the ski senter called? And which is the best to go to if you are at the advanced level? Cheers.

@simon.annies 4 года назад

With what you consider a rodeo 3, I keep ending up rotating to 5 even though I dont want to. Any tips? (other than rotate less - Duh)

@cedricschmid1380 4 года назад

Geils Video👌🏼

@andrewblack7852 4 года назад

We like you! You are cool and ski. What more can you be?? Lol I agree flat is flat.

@samscollective5885 4 года назад

Wow ‼️

@maxlind2346 4 года назад

Good vidio

@slsalmon5162 4 года назад

Where is the gym/training room, that u were using, located. I’d really like to get into more advanced, vertical rotation type tricks and I’d assume their is easiest to learn in a facility like the one u were at.

@StompItTutorials 4 года назад

Freestyle Academy in Laax.

@mattthiele9551 Год назад

What’s the differance between a cork 3 and a rodeo 3

@garrettzdybel1444 4 года назад

Where did you get the figurine?

@bennettbalogh2801 4 года назад

Great tutorial I think you do a great job of explaining it but, I think that they are the same trick ie Rodeo and Flatspin.

@StompItTutorials 4 года назад

Rodeo and flat 5s and 7s does indeed merge to something similar rather often but there is a big difference between a rodeo 3 and flat 3.

@emilvierinen6130 4 года назад

My next new trick will be this

@lucasgustafsson3105 4 года назад

0:46 what happened something was missing in the audio

@supermario5302 4 года назад

Could be a dump question but what's the difference between cork an flat?

@supermario5302 4 года назад

Or even better bio cork and flat...

@hematula1 3 месяца назад

So is this already settled... when it's a misty (flip), rodeo (flip), flatspin or just corked 360 (or some other rotations). IMHO the orignal or full names of the tricks do give an indication. misty and rodeo are flips, so you need to invert in them, flatspin (and corked) involve only spinning, no inverting. Finally what is then the difference of cork and flatspin? I have been under the impression that for corked spins the axis stays the same pretty much through the whole spin, where as in flatspins also the axis is spinned (basically a looks like a funnel). So in flips, you invert and depending on the kind of flip, you also spin in one or multiple axis. In straight spin, your spin axis stays vertical. In corked spins, you tilt the axis (but not inverting, ie. head below hips) and it stays pretty much the same. In flatspin, you tile your rotation axis (same as in cork), but also the axis spins more, forming almost like a funnel.

@lewisjb87 Год назад

What’s the song?

@flipmo1164 4 года назад

does someone know the song in the background?

@roryedwards2811 4 года назад

Moritz Paker Running from my Doom by Mama Zula

@flipmo1164 4 года назад

@@roryedwards2811 big thanks. Thats going to be my new skiing Song 👌

@erzenge1 4 года назад

I was about to look for a video like this, but my recommendations were faster

@tomtellem 4 года назад

Me too. We have a lot in common

@kimsrensen2295 4 года назад

Can you carve Well on twin tip skis?

@StompItTutorials 4 года назад

What do you think about these carves? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KWqQ4pf2OII.html

@mauriceandrequis3649 4 года назад

What is the difference between a cork and a rodeo

@CDsNuts1208 4 года назад

Guys, can someone tell me the name from the first song?

@captainspooled1979 4 года назад

What the song at the start

@mangomoon Год назад

when I used to skate a flatspin was the third axis of rotation (not flipping or twisting), like if you were lying down on a giant vinyl on a turntable and rotating around your pelvis. That's why it is called a FLAT spin, because you are lying flat. So in that original paradigm there are no examples of flatspin in this video, just flipping and twisting.

@jackguy9803 3 года назад

I may be wrong, but I call them different names. What you are calling a flat spin, I call an orbital flatspin, because your legs come around like they are orbiting you. I call a flat 3 halfway between a side flip and a backflip, and an inverted backward spin is a rodeo.

@jackl9673 4 года назад

YESSDD

@jerrybishop1941 7 месяцев назад

isnt rodeo a forward spinning variation?

@emilunsgardaskautrud5755 4 года назад

Whats the difference between cork 360 and a normal 360

@ppikm 4 года назад

It's all about axis of rotation. For a normal 360 the axis of rotation is vertical. For a Cork 3 it is off centre. Usually somewhere between vertical and horizontal

@Nico-bv6hi 4 года назад

Since when are you using armadaskis? If im noz mistaken

@StompItTutorials 4 года назад

Mistaken. Bentchetler 100s. My friend was on armada.

@Nico-bv6hi 4 года назад

@@StompItTutorials oh dear, i guess i need some glasses😅 Nice videos btw, i've learnt alot! Keep it up🙏

@williamhobson4696 4 года назад

200k!

@janhunziker1813 4 года назад

Do you live in switzerland? i

@TSD1520 4 года назад

can u give me links on amazon of your goggles, helmet and everything ? ^_^

@kapattaja5230 4 года назад

is rodeo easier than rodeo

@Johannesolsn 4 года назад

Flatspin is coolest

@lcosic1 4 года назад

The rodeo is all g but your flat spin technique is actually generating a bio, at best an orbital flat. Flats are basically a backwards misty.

@samuel.42_26 4 года назад

Intro song pls

@roryedwards2811 4 года назад

chonkyfonky the III Running from my Doom by Mama Zula

@robelclark8586 4 года назад

Could you please make a how to spin 1080??

@StompItTutorials 4 года назад

No need for that. Learn excellent 360s first step it up slowly to 5s, 7s 9s then 1080s.

@alexk1682 3 года назад

Just spin more haha

@wyattnataros1313 3 года назад

I swear my "rodeo" is somewhere in between this lol. definitely not as straight backwards, but certainly a lot more flippy then the flat 3 that you are demonstrating. Mine is almost kind of a Lincoln loop, but definetly with a more rodeo like axis. anyone else?

@lorin5294 4 года назад

For me a rodeo is when you start learning it from the base of a backflip, the flat spin comes from a 360, at least that's what I think makes sense

@duncankerr74 4 года назад

what’s a cork then?

@Johnny-mb1uw 4 года назад

TNT Extreme Sports I’m pretty sure it’s the same as a flatspin. But instead of leaning forward, you lean back.

@tjnewell8108 4 года назад

TNT Extreme Sports a 360 720 or 1080

@adrianol999 4 года назад

Cork is a normal spin but it’s off axis, so it kind of wobbles

@roryedwards2811 4 года назад

Its an off axis spin

@yaboi772 4 года назад

It’s a backwards leaning off axis spin where you don’t go completely upside down. If the feet go in line with the head while upside down it’s called a d-spin