How to Fly Float Planes in Microsoft Flight Simulator!

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Floatplanes are now part of Microsoft Flight Simulator in a big way! But they aren't as simple as land aircraft to operate... This video should give you some tips and ideas on how to best approach it.
(Note, physics go brr in this sim, these techniques aren't best exhibited with the derpy water physics, but are best practice)
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@samcollins8291 2 года назад

The water, needs a few touches. It is Lake Como, Banff, Kelowna, and scaring moose at Red Lake, next for me. Thanks for the ride and the tips AvAngel. You save me virtual airframes, and they can't take away my virtual pilots license, not even my doctor.

@robertnorman8184 2 года назад

What a great find! I wanted to try a float plane and went with the XCUB to get more experience with that plane, and found this very fine detailed description of what to do, and why. Got a good laugh about that annoying message about the water gear because I didn't know what to do about it. Now I know. Thanks.

@Stwutter1973 2 года назад

Nice vid as always 👍🏻

@legoguy23451 Год назад

thank you, this was really enjoyable to watch.

@richardmacintosh3006 Год назад

Great Video AvAngel and great information

@michaelmartin5453 2 года назад

Love the float plane bracing in the cockpit. Good detail.

@AvAngel 2 года назад

It's quite nice :)

@Streaky100001 2 года назад

Hey Av, FYI, I was told by a friend who flies floats you can actually land floats on land without gear and without damaging them, apparently it's not that uncommon to do it as a means of getting the aircraft out of the water when it's either going in for maintenance or being stored for the season. I believe they are very careful about where they choose to land, always grass, and always somewhere their confident is good quality grass without anything that might be worse for a float than a tire.

@Streaky100001 2 года назад

(if you search float plane landing on grass their are some videos, I even found one of one taking off from grass, although it was helped with a little human power to get it moving lol)

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Oh yeah certainly grass and usual wet grass at that for reduced friction

@Streaky100001 2 года назад

@@AvAngel Yeah, wouldn't wanna land one on paved though........ may be a little messy lol.

@kvk1 2 года назад

Super informative, thank you.

@SalsVideos 2 года назад

Thanks for the excellent vid. As a boater, I would say approach the dock slowly at a right (or left) angle then turn your water rudders sharply so you coast in along side the dock. Couldn't say if this is best practice for float planes, but it works for boats in most (but not all) situations.

@AvAngel 2 года назад

The sim's water phyiscs make actually docking properly basically impossible... too much friction by far... Got to take some considerations with that sadly till they fix the water. In real life you can coast it in like you say, but its a bit derp

@belgeode 2 года назад

Very useful information, thank you very much!

@AvAngel 2 года назад

You're welcome!

@stephenmason5682 2 года назад

Superb video, thoroughly emersive, pun intended! I fly the icon5 often in the Lake District, UK and have similar problems as you? It's difficult to break away from the water surface, skin? , but at least the water rudders work? Great to enjoy your videos!! My landings are bouncy as yet, but I'm working on it!!

@georgewilkinson6510 2 года назад

Excellent tutorial. Thank you.

@AvAngel 2 года назад

You are welcome!

@NoticalMyles 2 года назад

Thanks Asobo. That will be my new meme. In all seriousness, those rudders work when the plane is powered on! You showed me where the interior controller is! Thanks! I was thinking that they only extended using cntl + w

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Yeah, they are literally cable driven, so should work power off too XD but hey, they do indeed animate when powered... magically XD

@NoticalMyles 2 года назад

@@AvAngel It makes sense that they should work when powered off. This was a great instructional video, thanks again!

@jamieoconnell127 2 года назад

Thanks Rachel! This is excellent information and training. I learn so much watching your stuff. Does the waterdrome water runway behave differently than non-runway water, or is it just designated for safety (i.e. keep other craft out)?

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Just designated for safety and is a known length with a dock and fuel facilities

@russellharris5072 2 года назад

@@AvAngel tried it tonight and couldn't find a dock,but did find that one addon float 'plane caused a CTD (ouch).The Grumman Goose didn't but I could only get one engine to start.I'll try again later with the throttle cracked (I don't start cold and dark).....................................

@jamieoconnell127 2 года назад

@@AvAngel As an aside, I located a nice collection of free scenic Alaskan Seaplane bases that you and/or your viewers might find useful: return.mistymoorings.com/z20_homepage/index.php

@waltersbg 2 года назад

Thank you, Rachel! Huge fan and subscriber. Your YT "about" info indicates you are a long-time simmer, but you *must* have real-world experience too, right? How could you know so much without having been through this in real life? As far as water landings go, it does seem strange that Aosbo added official float planes without fixing the ridges/walls in the water surfaces, doesn't it? As for SU5, there are a lot of great new features, IMO, and, I, like you, do not see any notable graphical degradation. Your video shows a beautiful area from the real world looking very beautiful and real in the sim. Thank you again.

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Thanks Walter! I've got real world experience in GA flying, but that's about it, all my bush experience is sim based and what I've learned from experts and professionals... something I'd love to do one day :) Most water bodies are ok, some are a bit jank, sadly its always the more remote ones that sometimes have glitches, this one seemed unusual in that regard.

@Mucologist 2 года назад

Great instruction and demo. Glad they added floatplanes and water effects. Seems very bumpy to me though. Take-offs and landings on runways are such an issue for me I stopped flying MSFS. Floatplanes got me back in the pilot's seat. You just put MSFS in a nutshell: fabulous scenery and weather but no animation of water rudders!

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Oh they animate... but apparently a cable driven system needs the battery on to move XD GG Asobo

@Mucologist 2 года назад

@@AvAngel Good to know. I take it all back...(well, most of it). Anyway, very glad to see water ops in the sim.

@MOTOMINING 2 года назад

I can't believe they didn't give us a Beaver!

@maxelsoro6292 2 года назад

Ohh the float plane interesting nice Rachel am sure other flying student will put a skill in to a final exam where a sea plane land in a most luxury resort beach Good job rachel ohh yeah

@simtime7591 2 года назад

Speaking of performance, after reading around and experiencing it myself, people are beginning to say the way they have given us more performance is by nerfing the graphics, so it will actually run on Xbox. it certainly doesn't look as good on ultra after the update. its like the building at airports, you can see they are lower res.

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Graphics I feel haven't been impacted as far as I can see... not on ultra at least.

@simtime7591 2 года назад

@@AvAngel just an update on this for you. They have just announced hotfix 2, this week or into next week, apparently the dumb down graphics people are noticing, is a shader bug, which they say they will fix along with other things. so thats good news..

@larue085 2 года назад

Is there any way we can get elk and black bear added to these modules for sale?

@bikesnmore 2 года назад

Do you know of any water ports/runways on the standard edition of MSFS? I checked for the CWAE but it doesn't exist in the standard version, shame I love the float aircraft.

@AvAngel 2 года назад

There are a number up the coast but lack scenery, gotta zoom in close to see water airports, recommend flightsim.to for nice water sceneries

@stevek8829 2 года назад

Isn't there a keyboard method to control water rudders? I wish they kept some of the older controls.

@ellonysman 2 года назад

How come I think Dame Edna when you narrate? 😆 Greene Lake, Gene Simmon's home is on there I have heard

@barneybarnes8637 2 года назад

Did you try to use the the XCub float version on normal runways? For me, it cannot be steered on ground.

@AvAngel 2 года назад

it might require you to use differential braking to steer, not test flown that one yet.

@mikhaeltsakiris2498 2 года назад

Hey again..you seem to be the only other person I know with the Carenado Aircraft ( do they work after the most recent updates ( including the hotfix ) Seems the piper 3 ( Carenado fuel selector won't change from OFF L R And MR20 ovation + PA44 Seminole stuck on download loop ( clearly shows an update is available but won't install in the sim ;)

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Apparently the Waco and C170 are fixed and fine, MS changed something core requiring a physical PATCH from the developer rather than the sim hotfix fixing things... Carenado is working on this apparently.

@timothyparent9380 2 года назад

I noticed that the water rudders did deploy once the aircraft power was on. You can see this during taxi at 4:53. So that's a plus! But the water physics oh my!! Surf's up!! Lol

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Which is odd as they’re cable operated lol

@R-UBBERD-UCK 2 года назад

How did you do you a cold/dark start on water? You were parked at a dock. I can only do runway starts which already has the aircraft ready to take off. There are no options to start a flight with a docked plane as far as I can tell. How was that accomplished? Thanks. (I have cold/dark options for land based airports)

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Addon water runways have dock start locations, sadly there are non stock, but dock starts will allow it to be cold and dark :)

@R-UBBERD-UCK 2 года назад

@@AvAngel awesome thanks

@chasegarrison3295 2 года назад

I'm having an issue where none of the float planes will retract the landing gear. I push the gear up button, and the handle in the cockpit goes up, but the gear itself is still down.

@charpentierdamien6601 2 года назад

Same here

@WhiskyCanuck 2 года назад

Hey Rachel, "Gear up for water landing"... :D Oh, and the water rudders were down at the end, when did that happen?

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Somehow a cable operated rudder requires battery to move according to asobo lol

@ravenn22 2 года назад

so they fixed ramping in this update? before you couldn't lower the gear in water, and if you tried to taxi into the water off land - you'd "crash" also, water rudders seem very ineffective right now, have seen a bunch of posts on this...

@AvAngel 2 года назад

I have crashes turned off, occupational hazard of bush flying, you need to or the sim crashes every 5 minutes :D but it does seem to let me lower the gear in the water now... so perhaps? Water rudders are relatively ineffective tbh, they're not this amazing tool and with a prop pulling you innefficiently with small rudders and a wide footprint its a weird combo... not ideal for manouvring.

@canadiancaptainmoustache 2 года назад

The bouncing/skipping effect is entirely realistic. When you were up on step and pulled back, the rear of the floats hit and either skip or slow you down IRL. There's what's called the critical angle you have to hold during float takeoffs. Too far forward or back and you'll either bounce around or lose speed. So that part is realistic That being said, the size/shape/mounting of the floats on the 172 they've given us is cartoonish. It makes me wonder if they even looked at pictures of a 172 on floats

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Pretty sure they just got some off turbosquid and called it good :D I find some of the third party planes actually contact far better on the water than the default two... the blackbox l19, the wigeon and cessna 140... all have a nice smooth range on the step, this 172 feels like its floats are way too long and it catches way too easily.

@canadiancaptainmoustache 2 года назад

@@AvAngel That's the thing. It seems to behave like it's on some extra long Edo floats and not these abnormally stubby Wiplines

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Right? contact points likely can change that, its probably hiding some wider stability issue with how the sim and water behave though... blegh

@domcamillo1633 2 года назад

Você é a melhor

@jacobhoffman927 2 года назад

Water rudders are indeed animated

@scotthayden1885 2 года назад

What was the scenery you were flying from??

@Foxtrot_EW Год назад

No answer i guess...

@thatoneguy611 2 года назад

I always thought the bouncing was just a result of by bad piloting. Now I realize it was the game’s physics *and* my bad piloting

@mikecoffee100 2 года назад

after all this time msn hasn't fixed the water to plane meaning not sticking sheesh but a good Vid non the less

@JK-tj6ie 2 года назад

You forgot to put up the water rudder before going on land😉

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Not normally an issue when the wheels are down, they'll be out of the water before any chance of contacting anything.

@KatherineCracks 2 года назад

That was an excellent tutorial, that was better than the lesson I was given irl! Flying float planes is fantastic fun. Osobo oh dear, at one point I looked out of Rachel’s cockpit and saw a tidal wave higher than the plane! Sort it out. Great video darling! Love you - 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈Katherine🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

@JK-dv3qe 2 года назад

i am soooo happy with sim update 5: whenever i hit the button 'FLY' it throws me out to windows desktop, i now have soooo much more free time not spent in front of the PC 👍

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Never experienced that , reinstall?

@Flight231 2 года назад

Enjoyable review. This attampt at the float version suffers from the fact the gear doesnt retract from an airfield take off, making a water landing impossible(IRL). The water ruuders dont deploy with poor water taxy effects. The flight model is lacking the inertia of those big floats...On and on and on...

@AvAngel 2 года назад

It’s… imperfect yeah, there are third party addons far better

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Personal experience from land airfields gear does retract on all three stock aircraft, water rudders deploy

@BiGVERTi 2 года назад

I’m having the same issue with the landing gear not retracting and I’m going crazy trying to figure out why. I’m having no issues with Amy other planes. Just the float variants

@alwatt9367 2 года назад

Sorry this is not about float planes but thought Rachel you might pick this up... I bought the Beechcraft 99 as I liked your honest review.. I know it was a poor aircraft re speed, to take off...And overall lack of design ....But the new MFS DOWNLOAD has really screwed it up to an unflyable aircraft... It is unstable even setting the Legacy original settings... Any chance of you giving it a try to see if its me that has something wrong in settings...Please.

@AvAngel 2 года назад

I'll check it out again, it may be waiting for a patch tbh, a lot of dlc aircraft need a patch after the last update.

@alwatt9367 2 года назад

@@AvAngel Thank you so much.....Thought MFS team would check this before release?

@AvAngel 2 года назад

It was working before the patch, the asobo team can’t check every third party models, it’s up to their developers to be compatible, virtualcol are a bit slow

@alwatt9367 2 года назад

@@AvAngel Hi Rachel Thank you for the reply.. I bought the aircraft from Microsoft store... They changed the sim design......In my opinion, it surely does not take any time to quickly fly one of their products they are selling from a airport to check if it works.....and they must know that their modification to the sim will require the developer to sort a solution with them before they released the sim..

@craig83cg 2 года назад

Did my first water landing last night on the series X on a reservoir near my house, bounced at least 6 times and crashed 😂

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Keep practicing!

@jordanpayne6838 2 года назад

You gotta get that airspeed lower! Make sure flaps are set right, you’ll be able to slow down faster and have more lift at low speeds!

@squidly1117 5 месяцев назад

"Gear UP/Down For Landing" is so annoying!!! I can't find a key binding for that warning.

@JPROP-vb7sv 11 месяцев назад

You can turn off the radio

@omni057 2 года назад

Still watching but I think the Water Rudder didn't animate b/c no power. I saw them down later in the video. At least I think that's why, I'm a flight sim noob still.

@omni057 2 года назад

Up at 0:48 and down at 19:59

@omni057 2 года назад

To be fair, the lever looks very mechanical and shouldn't need power. Not a plane person so idk.

@AvAngel 2 года назад

It shouldn’t no, entirely mechanical system lol gg asobo

@goalski134 2 года назад

if you’re going to fly the husky, can you PLEASE land on charlie?

@AvAngel 2 года назад

I plan to review it tonight!

@goalski134 2 года назад

@@AvAngel even if just a little easter egg at the end, landing on charlie would be amazing!

@Sp00kq 2 года назад

I can finally fly float planes around Seattle. There's a tour company that does plane tours of the city and they land and take off in the little inlet that goes to one of the marinas in the city.

@jeeps7er 2 года назад

19:05 Marge Simpson in the house.

@StevenKelley 2 года назад

Asobo really needs to fix everything on water surfaces, its very beta. Also that annoying gear check is on all the float planes. Another issue.

@StraightandLevelCFI 2 года назад

that was a pretty rough landing...

@AvAngel 2 года назад

The water behavior is... far from ideal.

@piefly 2 года назад

Really have some mixed feelings about this update , but I hope they fix it soon with a patch, none the less good tutorial for console flyers

@arnaultlaville4648 2 года назад

it seems only asobo airplanes have the water effect , tried with my payware and it was like before the update

@AvAngel 2 года назад

Most are pushing updates, its a simple cfg change they never enabled because the effects didn't exist.

@arnaultlaville4648 2 года назад

@@AvAngel good to know , hopefully , they keep working on the water , it would be nice to see the water splash if you land too hard

@guyincognito8799 2 года назад

How do no flight simulators get float flying right? If the engine is started in a seaplane the aircraft is moving. You're never stopped like in the sim. As a real life float pilot, this is painful to watch. The water physics are terrible. It's like adobo just wanted a Google Earth sim to show pretty scenery and never bothered to check into how airplanes work...

@AvAngel 2 года назад

It does hurt :( I try my best to translate how it works to this... whatever this is... So people can at least have a crack at doing it properly. Will say FSX and the a2a cub did it right... but that was it.