Dude. Started tinder last week after finally being single again first time since 2015. First day was decent. Got a good amount of likes. So I bought gold lol. Got unlimited swipes and saw who liked me. I made a huge mistake swiping right on like 90% of what I saw for a few hours lol and then the algorithm destroyed me. I barely get anything now. I tried to swipe left for 2 days to get out of algo hell and still didn’t help. I’m a good looking guy too. The system is laughable. Now tinder is ruined for me and I’ll have to be more selective on the others. It’s just insane though how a rookie could make a mistake day 1 and never be able to get out of hell. Psychological torture.
@@shermanator33 Um just use the free version. Why get gold when you got a decent amount of likes. Just swipe every day with your limited likes and be patient and kinda selective. Good looking guys only need to swipe once a week at most to get matches, chats and ultimately dates otherwise it gets too overwhelming.
Todd, if you can manage it, I think the most powerful form of content you could release about online dating would be case studies of guys who are not conventionally good-looking, but by implementing your advice, they start getting results. That could really help give some guys hope that it could actually work for them, despite the fact that it hasn't yet.
@regisjohnson4958 Hey I know it's kind of stupid, but that's how human psychology works, and so that's how persuasion and marketing has to work, too: People need to believe that something is possible and can work for them, in order to decide it's worth putting effort into pursuing it. I'm assuming that Todd's recent focus on online dating content means he's gonna launch another online dating product in the coming months, and I think what a lot of guys would need in order to buy (and implement the free advice too), is more hope that it could actually work for them. So I was mostly giving this comment as marketing advice for Todd. I'm not like morally supporting people's laziness or pessimism haha.
@@Paul-yk7ds R.O.I. online is incredibly low, cold approach is better. It’s like online spam marketing VS having live prospects in front of you that you can pitch and close right then and there.
Guys, if a woman truly likes you, it’ll be easy. She will respond to your texts immediately, she will want to spend time with you, get to know you, etc… you will not have to spend $ on her or put on an act. If she plays hard to get, don’t play, just move on. Know your worth.
@@Asskicker41582 Work on yourself my friend. Before, during, and after a relationship, you should always focus on yourself. Go to the gym, meditate, work, work on a side hustle, make friends, pursue your interests, etc... in other words, live your life. When a woman comes into your life, continue to focus on your stuff. If she leaves, you still have your own life and interests.
Get off all dating apps. Work on yourself. I say this all over YT.... go to the gym, focus on your career, your body, your finances, your mind. Meditate, pray, go to the gym, find hobbies you love, make lots of male friends, stay away from drugs (porn, alcohol, etc...) and watch how much you like yourself. When that happens, you are in control and a woman is simply complementing you, not completing you. Never depend on anyone or anything outside of you to make you happy. Be your own happiness. Fast forward your life to when you are 70 and you have kept up your game physically, mentally, spiritually, financially, etc... Her looks will fade, her body will sag. YOU are the PRIZE brother, not her. Remember that.
Yes its tiring to learn about. Been divorced for 4 years now and enjoyed concentrating on myself. But thought about trying online dating, but omg i have to get a social media account, learn all this rubbish and jump through hurdles etc. Think I'll get a dog or cat instead just for another heartbeat around the house lol.
One of Todd's videos on this a couple years ago was the tipping point that took me from rarely matching with unattractive girls to regularly matching and dating girls I was attracted to and saw potential in. Getting married this year. He's worth listening to on this stuff.
Congrats on your pre-divorce ceremony. Anyone marrying someone from a dating site Is making a huge mistake guaranteed. She’s had her back blown out a lot 😂
In my experience. The more complicated it is to get the girl out-the worse she is. The best women I've ever met have been very receptive. Good communicators and easy to get out. In other words: no texting technique or micro steps. Just ask. Stop wasting time on the other ones.
Exactly. That's why abundance is key, why on earth would you invest your time in a something with a low chance of a follow through when it's far easier to cut your losses and engage somewhere else.
As a female who started using Tinder a few months ago. . . Bio's are VERY important unless you are a super hottie! And if you want to receive a reply to your first message, do not say "Hi. How are you?". . Or "Wow! You are gorgeous"
I've been on dating apps since almost their inception. I had some pretty good results in the beginning, when the apps were fairly new, but very quickly my results tanked until eventually, it was taking me an average of one month to get a date, and that's spending an average of an hour a day between 4 or 5 apps. So 30ish hours for one date. One date that would stand me up, cancel on me, or just say "sorry, I'm actually not interested in meeting you" more often than not. I deleted and made new accounts many times, constantly swapped out photos, changed bios, changed locations etc. Nothing helped. It felt like looking for a job prior to the 2008 collapse vs after. When the apps were new, it was like pre 2008, just throw a resume in any direction and someone's gonna call you and offer you a job. After 2008...you're sending out resumes after resume for days, weeks and months without a single reply. I honestly don't know how guys get any matches, let alone replies, let alone dates, let alone dates that actually show up on dating apps these days.
@@joshspiker Haha, couldn't agree more. I left out that I STARTED with dating apps since their early days, but I deleted every one of them about 3 years ago and decided to concentrate on approaching girls in real life. Unfortunately, I literally haven't had one single date since doing that, but I'm sure it would have been the same if I'd stayed on the apps. At this point I'm pretty convinced I'm just undatable.
@@renegadezen7841 My results are shockingly similar to yours, except that my day/ night game results are just as bad as my online results. I can approach and get interest, but if they give me their number they never reply and as far as insta-dates or same day pulls... yeah those have become the material of pure fiction for me. So hey man, be happy you can still get results when approaching irl, I'd kill for that to still be my reality.
@@fuzzypanda1684 I see. Well, my real life game still has the aspect of me having difficulty closing and me being able to get a date but struggling to get 2nd dates so there's a lot to learn...but to get this far has taken me a solid 10 years of never ending practice and development and unwillingness to give up but I feel like I am very close to the brink of getting consistent results. But I think point is, this stuff is really tough and finding great, attractive women who want to spend time in a man to woman way is something that is just simply difficult to master . Long term Dan Bilzerian and Andrew Tate have it right..get lots of money and start throwing mansion parties with 15 women and 3 guys and that's probably always going to reign Supreme
also just wanted to add one more comment. I'm almost 1 stack fake background "likes" or "matches" to bait you into paying for a premium subscription to "see who liked you" . They appear almost instantly once you re-download the app and Once you unlock them, they never write back because they are fake accounts the app uses to bait men.
@Regis Johnson Yep, it was about a year or 2. Funny thing is, I'm better looking now than I was then. I'm in much better shape and don't really look any older.
Todd seems to be the only dating coach left, who doesn't inject christianity, or high vibration meditation energy, or just straight up anger. Todd teaches how to actually get the girl
I've been on about 500 first dates myself, and I agree 100% with almost all of his points. I'll add to one: Regarding voice / video. I don't do it all the time, but only situationally. It's a game changer however. Look into voice exercises and good lighting for your webcam. You want to knock it out of the park on first impression. If you improve the timbre and pitch of your voice, and reduce nasal sounds even if it only last for a couple minutes when she first picks up it's huge. (Obviously also being a great conversationalist is key, so work on that as well) Regarding the ask out: My experience has been different, however my demographics might also be different. I date almost exclusively STEM women, and entrepreneurial women. I've found that attempting to assess their preferences in any way has worse results than making a proposal and allowing them to counter. (This goes for text date requests only. In person you can vibe a lot more in the back and forth) For most people having too many choices is a bad thing because people are horrible at making decisions. So, I instead propose large appeal dates. Some don't like coffee, some don't like alcohol, but EVERYONE will drink tea. And, while I used to spend time micro optimizing things like finding square tables to sit on an adjacent corner, and having dim lighting like in a pub, the truth is going from date 0 to date 1 is way harder than date 1 to date 2 (At least for me), so presenting an option that's really easy to say yes to has produced the maximum result. (Often if any distance is involved or if the person is busy this is in favor of video / calls as he said) Additionally, I basically don't text at all after setting up the date. I'll say something like 'Great see you then! I've got it in my calendar. Here's my number in case you're running late on saturday! Talk to you then :)' This is for multiple reasons: 1) If you spend 10 hours texting a girl over a week before meeting her, you're likely wasting your time because you'll be highly interesting in less than 1/3 first dates. 2) Its very easy to be mundane over the course of a week and have them lose interest. And if you're constantly being a bit edgy to be interesting, you'll eventually take a wrong turn that you couldnt' see coming. If you had already met the wrong turn is only a minor negative. Before you've met it might blow up. Pre meeting is like options trading. You want to make high leverage risky bets (Because of the concept of dating 10% that are wildly into you rather than 100% that are meh), but if you get a few good rolls and win the date, know when to cash out.
@@_WOR It's all so much bollox Rule 1: women are best ignored. Be nice, look your best, and if it's offered, shag like a God because they tell each other. Other than that, get on with your life Rule 2: if you follow Rule 1, if they're interested they'll let you know unambiguously. Rule 3: If you doubt Rule 2, try rule 1 for 3 months.
As an attractive guy who gets alot of likes, bio doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is your looks and how well you take photos. Tinder is all looks and aesthetics. You could literally only have "lol" as you bio and you'd still get a ton of matches if you're attractive with good photos. So the best way to get more matches is by hitting the gym and "looksmaxxing". Get a haircut that suites your face, get a solid skincare routine, wear lifts if you're on the shorter side. Do all that and take good pics and you'll instantly start getting more likes, matches, and dates.
I tend to agree. If you aren't looking after yourself, they won't think you will look after them or actually care about yourself. Self care is important.
@@shanea9613 Not true at all. The wealthiest men are very simple looking. Men that typically groom themselves do not typically provide. They are usually players and narcissists which women shy away from.
I had much better success when on-line dating was new. As I got older and less good looking, the fewer results I had. I no longer bother; it just takes too much time and effort for the results.
never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never-in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.
By far the best internet video that shows from A to Z on how to improve your internet dating experience. Even though Todd presented many ideas the line that really got me was at the end when he said you have to believe that winning is possible
I have to get over the fact that the whole online dating experience for guys is a whole "dance, monkey, DANCE" thing. I don't want to change anything for the matriarchy. Though sticking to my principles will only lead to a life of abject loneliness. What a time to be alive.
Meanwhile your parents generation, an average guy (can out fight a decent amount of people, fair amount pullups) got with in average girl (thin, feminine).
@@JustNo8808 Kids are used by the women for bargaining chips when she drags you into “family court.” After that you pay for them but are just a visitor.
As a female looking at the photos, do not put up pictures of you with other females, regardless who they are- mom/sister/daughter. (we don't know) Or pictures with a group of females. (Volleyball team) I do think he has really good points especially with the texting.
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I get that this is recipe for online dating success but where is the integrity? where is the honesty? i'm a dude working a job full time and taking care of the house MY LIFE ISN'T ALL EXCITING AND EXOTIC AND EPIC i can't pretend i live a rockstar lifestyle to impress bitches who pretend they're supermodels when they actually work at fucking target.... i mean what's wrong with being a simple man living a simple life? Am i the only one who's just sick of the bullshit?
People love to talk about themselves. So get her talking about her, don't message for too long before trying to set something up. Also I would avoid calling women bitches, not a good look bro. Have fun with it, and don't sweat the small stuff. I'm wishing you the best homie. Hope you find someone.
Great video. I wish more guys knew this stuff. I'm a lady looking for a husband and dating online. Most of the guys I don't give a chance to are for reasons you mentioned. The most frustrating is the guy who chats with you for days, but never sets up a date. Huge time sucks.
Don't listen to the other dude. If ur not comfortable setting up the first date for whatever reason, then don't. U show others how you want to be treated.
@@TheOneBadAssGamerI'm a girl. Depends on the circumstances & the vibe between you two. Sometimes waiting a few more chats until the connection feels stronger. Sometimes during the very first conversation. My opinion.
As always Todd is wonderful and as he said also in other videos, online dating is here to stay and probably will grow even more, but to me Dating Game = Comfort Zone, furthermore it is pointless, online there are different things that can be easily misunderstood, sometimes it's not properly easy to convey a joke, your personality and I believe that online makes the game even more random because there are girls who have tons of guys messaging them, tons of followers and they never read your messages, instead with cold approach face to face with a high level of eye-contact, good body language and good voice tone you make a great impact, and the girl hardly forgets about you, unless you don't do stupid stuff, with a bio and a picture on a dating app you can easily fake your personality and it's very hard to emerge among people who have a very weak game but wonderful pictures
exactly. I'm in the weird position where face to face I do pretty nice(still always tons to improve) but I have no experience with online dating and wanted to give it a try, but everything I see everywhere warns men to either stay away or put a lot of effort into it, which is the opposite reason, I wanted "passive income" so I don't have to go out often and can spend time doing my things
I’m an average looking guy, divorced, no real money, and with a special needs kid in tow. I blitzed Tinder, surprisingly, batting wayyy above my average and even out of my league in many cases. I asked one of my dates why she had matched with me and she said immediately my bio, saying it was like one in a hundred. I’m articulate and used that in my bio. Language is SOOO important in appealing to the feminine imagination, and if you don’t tickle a girl’s imagination you won’t get anywhere near tickling her in anyway at all. Learn how to write in a compelling fashion and you are more than half way there boys.
You are absolutely right. Most men don't realize that to get a woman, you have to tickle her imagination to make her excited for the date. Instead of writing with horrible grammar and boring sentences... Just try to be articulate. Such a turn on.
I find that as soon as I subscribe, I stop getting likes. When my membership lapses, then I get a bunch of likes. It's like the app only wants me to pay to see who likes me then stops showing me when I pay.
Thank you, it’s obvious you’ve put a lot of effort and info in this. I would like to see more/ continuation of these, maybe especially for UK/ London oriented content. Cheers !👍🏼
Advice on “standing out” on a bio? It seems like, to me on the dating apps I’ve used, things to “stand out” make you boring- “I like to go on adventures, do hiking and skiing, I’m a wild one” seems like 80% of profiles
Yeah, then those lines are not "stand out" lines in reality. Personally, I started my bio with a ridiculous joke that gets a lot of responses, so that has worked decently for me. Jokes about your dating life or what you're looking for can work well. There was a famous one from the Endless Options course that essentially said he's married with a baby on the way and he's just on the app to find some side-action, before clarifying "Just kidding, I'm single." Another one I saw was like "I have 21 kids from 5 past marriages, hope you don't mind" or something. I could imagine those formats getting played out, but I came up with my own twist that seemed a bit more creative, and it worked well for me over the past year (although now I am testing other bios against it).
Dude, it really depends on if the universe likes you or hates you. I did horribly on dating apps for years. Finally, I did a test. I created a new profile using photos of a male model I had access to from a photography class I took. He was handsome, but not overly handsome. I build the bio and pics like I was a trust fund kid, traveling the world 1st class, driving expensive cars etc. I used my editing skills to put together seamless images of "me" in amazing lofts in cities around the world, did just enough research to make it sound like I actually spent time there, I'd say things like "me at some city in Spain, Mount so-and-so erupted the week we arrived so we had to leave lol". Obviously I used a real city and volcano name. Sounds really in depth but really only took a few minutes to research. Mocking up photos of "me" with "friends" took a bit longer, but I really wanted to do a proper test. Anyway, I made it seem like I was a top 5%er but didn't go TOO overboard, no yachts or private jets or anything. Very high end, but still believable. Anyway, I got the same results as my actual profile. Very, very few matches, almost no messages, and the ones I did get were all "Hey baby, wanna chat on my cam site?". I even used a VPN set to the same location every time I opened the app under that account so the app wouldn't "know" it was me. But yeah, after a month, hadn't gotten a single legit message or date. Seems kinda insane, but I really wanted to do a thorough test. All in all it only took a few hours to set up and it gave me the answer I was looking for.
@@fuzzypanda1684 I feel you. I’m in a pretty social college and I feel like most “hot” girls get asked out enough in person, so don’t really need to use dating apps.
When a gentleman plans a date rather than ask me to choose a location, it tells me he has taken interest in the conversation we've had and knows me well enough for a first date. Those are the dates I most look forward to and the effort is greatly appreciated.
Men - "Dating apps don't work. They suck. I do everything I can and I'm lucky to get three profile likes in a week. It's a scam!" Also, men... 1. Takes horrible looking selfie while sitting in the car. 2. Takes horrible looking pic looking down at the phone so the women can see up my nose. 3. Wears the same dirty hoodie in four pics. 4. Wears sunglasses in main profile pic. 5. Has someone take a pic while standing 183 feet away from the camera. 6. Is holding a beer. 7. Has the clothing of a 36 year old man-child.
On dating apps, the typical ratio of men to women is around 3:1. So, if I walked into a lounge with 100 people on a Saturday night and saw that 75 of them were men, I’d probably decide to leave
Advice: consider adding more value to the blog posts on your website, otherwise they are not useful. Reasoning: I wanted to check the summary for the negs and the push/pull but when I went to the blog post, I only saw bookmarks, which are already featured on RU-vid.
Agree to the photos and general description of yourself; also on messaging to your person of interest. In the end, be honest and be yourself and if this doesn''t work you may consider using another dating app. And I do not agree on spending money for an app. My experience on that is bad.
I would add a caveat to paying for apps that if you live in a small city it's not worth it,cause I payed for boosts and tinder gold,and very quickly the women ran out. If u're in a big city by all means go for it
The problem is these apps mostly work for good looking people only. If youre normal looking you can forget it. There is a chance to meet with some girls but if you think about how many dont even answer you it makes you crazy.
Sounds like every single man has to be an expert at navigating this maze has to be a professional just to get a few dates. The whole process is extremely toxic to society. It'd be better if men collectivized and burned it all down
Interesting video, it might have been useful for me personally about 30 years ago, but then computer dating wasn't really a thing back then when I was actually interested in dating.
Thanks for the advice. What is your opinion on buying lifetime plan on dating app. Will the app not be as beneficial to me as monthly buyers because the app has already received all the money it can from me?
Having multiple apps is important. On tinder I don’t get much likes or interactions. But on meete and zeetok I gotten loads of quality women contacting me first. But I don’t live in a populated state like NY so lots of the women weren’t near me. But I knew that women did liked me.
I suspect airbrushing my photos or removing an average or unflattering picture might actually do more harm than good. True, I believe the better you can make your photos look, the better your responses will be. However, the ultimate goal is not to get more online matches. It's to get the result you want in real life from the matches you get. If someone can't accept what I look like on an average day I've set myself up for failure, plus the time and expense of a date. If that's the case I'd rather they not match with me in the first place.
texting is lame imo, cant understand why women my age 55 also love to text. phone call works better for me. online game is exactly what its become. which app do you work for? Todd.
All points are great advice, and I feel like I've done most of the tips given but get nil results. Social media and tech are making things worse not better.
Dude none of this matters or barely matters at all. If she thinks you're hot she'll like you that's the reality. Yes ofc have decent pics and all that but it's really not much more than that. If you get zero matches go take new pics
Found my current GF who's a lifetime keeper without spending. Even had a couple of other successful hookups prior to her. All in just half a year. While all the tips here makes a lot of sense, success is far from impossible without spending. Spend if you're a fierce competitor who want's much greater success which is unnecessary. You pay more for convenience.
Todd you are a genius for real. The way you describe this stuff is great. Plus you aren’t awkward like most of the online coaches ahah. Bet you easily pull!!
I just want to know how to get my Tinder back…..I just woke up one day and out of nowhere I was banned and I don’t even know why and now I can’t even get it back
Here’s my response: “I don’t want to surprise you. But, I will be shorter than you. I won’t need a ladder to have a conversation with you. But, some people are kind of shallow about that.”
“Rounding up” is fine and recommended if you’re on the edge, but if you lie they’ll be able to tell when they meet you in person and that might seriously turn off a girl that would’ve otherwise been interested. I’ve had such reactions where girls I met looked nothing like their pictures. Honestly some people on dating apps tend to be really shallow, if they weren’t judging you on your height, they’d judge you for something else. Just make sure to maximize your profile so people don’t reject you based on stuff that you can control!
Lying is smart cuz lots of cute girls filter out guys under 5 10”. Giving us short guys ZERO chance of matching. so if we lie. At least we have a CHANCE. “So you’re saying there’s a chance!!!!!”
pros: You get a chance to text and possibly meet. You get a chance to project your personality before she makes her final judgment. cons: If youre insecure about your height, expect to get ripped apart. If you dont know how to slip in your height into the conversation in a way thats either fun or makes it not matter, expect to get ghosted in person more often. Most girls that care about height ,care because their friends care about height. If you dont know how to work a group then youre wasting your time. summary: if youre going to lie, you need to have good game. He doesn't mention it here but social media works better than dating apps. Having other people as social proof works better than dating apps. very similar to finding a good job, its better to know people than have a good resume.
I tried six dating apps, and all the women wanted to do was to chat on the app forever. They never wanted to meet, and I have been catfished on each of them multiple times.
Just make sure you are a werewolf, vampire, pirate, billionaire, or surgeon, and you’ll do well on the apps. Otherwise you are there for female validation and to provide them with entertainment.
I get some decent matches and some #s and even a date on occasions but I never know what to do and don't have a plan. I live outside the city and match pple who live there so I never know where to go or what plan to have. This has helped a bit, thanks Todd
Was wondering how's it going. Have you found places to take dates to. If not I'd recommend doing some research as to events in the city your matching in. Facebook usually has an event listing for concerts, fairs, festivals, etc. I'd use that have a plan for an event before you even start messaging the girl.
As a woman let me share my opinion and I'm sure it will help someone. So if you are a man on a dating app, 1. Use different nice photos. Close up to show your face, smile. Full-size photo to show your height etc. Don't use group photos, or photos with other women or children. Especially if they are not yours. It gives us the wrong impression about you. 2. If you have advantages, show them. Mention of you have a great job, 6 packs etc. Especially if you are not handsome, you need to use other things to impress at once. No need to hide your talents etc. 3. It's better to be certain. Mention what you want - marriage, hookup etc. Rather than “I'm figuring out my goals”. 4. Put some effort into your bio. 5. Do text first. Be active. Initiate a call and meet up. 6. Be nice and polite. Good luck!
What's a good photo rating site, I know about photo feeler, but that's about it. The problem I've got is that unlike women, I'm not taking a photo (more like a selfie) every 5 mins and I feel weird about trying to capture every moment in a photo
It was interesting to watch, thank you. Well, I have no job and no income, move around as a tourist from country to country in southeast Asia after escaping from Putin's dictatorship. Have no working bank account (so can't pay for Gold). I've only been in a relationship twice (last time being 9 years ago), have just tried a dating app for the first time, got tons of likes, but could only swipe through to a handful of those, which got me 3 matches, which led to 2 conversations with girls who are quite far away, where I can't really reach, and now it's time for me to leave the country. Oh how I wish I could just move to Sweden and stay there without having to travel anymore, especially to hot southern countries. Sweden, the best country in the world with perfect climate, most beautiful language (which I have learned) and culture that I would really fit into. Jag vill leva och dö i Norden ❤
(I can't even apply for a swedish visa because it has to be done with an embassy in your country of residence, in my case Russia, and I am not going there) So even if I were married to a Swedish girl, it wouldn't get me there 😢, because even for a sambo visa I would have to apply from the country of residence, and I have no other residence.
I get matches everyday. I spend 1 min posting a couple selfies. The secret is to not be ugly. Sorry but it’s just reality. If you make good money you are rock solid.
