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How To Get Your Hypersonic Lifting Body To Space: Featuring The FDL-5 

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A 747 with a twist,
A hot rod in the sky,
The Air Force Sortie Space System,
A concept that did fly.
With liquid oxygen and hydrogen,
Stored deep in its hold,
This jumbo jet would soar,
With a story yet untold.
With drop tanks and a space vehicle,
Attached to its back,
This bird would fly to the stars,
On a mission to track.
But alas, its performance,
And daunting tech on display,
The concept never took off,
And quietly flew away.
But in the annals of history,
It lives on in the mind,
A dream of what could have been,
A rocket of a different kind.
In the 1960s, Lockheed and the U.S. Air Force's Flight Dynamics Laboratory (FDL) explored several design concepts for hypersonic flight. Three principal vehicles, the FDL-5, FDL-6 and FDL-7, were based on 70-degree triangles and had different designs. The FDL-5 had variable-geometry wings for controlled landings, and one proposal called for it to be carried aloft by a C-5 Galaxy transport and then released at high altitude. The Air Force Rocket Propulsion Laboratory also outlined an "Air Force Sortie Space System" that had three major parts: a launch platform, drop tanks, and a space vehicle, which was a 747 with liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen storage tanks inside its fuselage and hydrogen pumped into afterburners for thrust augmentation. Another option involved a vehicle sized to fit inside the shuttle bay.
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@johngunderson5463
@johngunderson5463 Год назад
I've been waiting for a render of the 747 space sortie vehicle combo, thank you. Well done. I remember seeing versions of this from 1984 that had a space shuttle main engine in the tail of the 747 carrier, in place of the APU.
@Chris.Davies
@Chris.Davies Год назад
1:24 - Chances of a rocket being allowed to ignite when less than 6 feet away from the main body of the aircraft made from aluminium alloy 1mm thick? Answer: 0.0% Apparently the paint on a 747 isn't affected by a rocket plume of 4-5,000 degrees. Pretty amazing paint right there!
@Mr.Robert1
@Mr.Robert1 Год назад
You didn't hear about the new paint that Benjamin Moore has been working on ?
@acarrillo8277
@acarrillo8277 Год назад
Ya that one bugs me too. I feel like he should have added something to the top of the 747 that looked like a metallic heat shield. Considering to onboard H2 could have even made it regenerativly cooled.
@bob19611000
@bob19611000 Год назад
Starting the rocket motor before release would destroy the carrier aircraft. If vehicle below, the carrier goes into a slight incline, release, hold motor start until the carrier banks away. In this case when on top, the carrier goes into a slight dive, release, ect . . . How this is shown it blow the top off the carrier and/or ram into the front section.
@TinyHouseHomestead
@TinyHouseHomestead Год назад
You need to put the "Skull and Crossbones" on them! 😱😁👍👍🇺🇲
@AccAkut1987
@AccAkut1987 Год назад
Incredible renders, but like with a few similar ones before, using those cloud heavy sky backdrops above the flying aircraft gives the impression that those air launches happen at only a few kilometres altitude instead of the actual projected 10 to 20km of altitude.
@jeremyjackson8196
@jeremyjackson8196 Год назад
Yeah, what's the point of using a C-5 to only launch it from maybe a couple thousand feet in the air?
@ablewindsor1459
@ablewindsor1459 Год назад
​​@@jeremyjackson8196n 1974 a C-5A DROPPED A MINUTEMAN ICBM from 20,000 feet altitude. That is a four mile "First stage lift". The X-15 was normally for a hundred launches carried to 45,000 feet. Nine miles Up. Using a B-52 Mother ship.
@kenetickups6146
@kenetickups6146 Год назад
Therapist: Twin tail 747 with afterburners isn't real it can't hurt you Twin Tail 747 with afterburners: 0:44
@KerboDrive
@KerboDrive 5 месяцев назад
just wait until you find out about the 747 with an SSME in the tail
@piotrp280
@piotrp280 Год назад
The second one is like: 'Yo dawg, I heard you like spaceplanes, so I put a spaceplane in your spaceplane so you can fly in space while you fly in space!'
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 Год назад
It's always a good day when Hazy posts a new video 🥰
@Dronte75
@Dronte75 Год назад
Projects to supply enough test subjects for at least three seasons of The Six Million Dollar Man. Great job as always. Thanks for sharing.
@doltsbane
@doltsbane Год назад
I'm reminded of an idea that was tossed around back in the 1980s for a conical manned space interceptor that was based on the shape of a nuclear warhead reentry vehicle. As I recall it would either pop up individually on top of an MX missile or be launched a few at a time in the payload bay of a Space Shuttle Orbiter. No pressurized cabin, the pilot wore a spacesuit the whole time. Can't remember what the proposal was called though.
@technocracy90
@technocracy90 Год назад
Congratulations, he rendered this
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 5 месяцев назад
The DARPA Space Cruiser!
@AniRaptor2001
@AniRaptor2001 Год назад
So pleased to have somebody producing such high-quality treatments of these concepts. Keep up the great work!
@PaulZyCZ
@PaulZyCZ Год назад
Nowadays there's Virgin Orbit with their Cosmic Girl and certain Canadian company with their Sexbomb, Hello-1 and Hello-2 spaceplanes. Only some 60 years later... only. EDIT: The FDL-5/6/7 would have been great space-plane. Also good work with the animation, it looks splendid!
@normalhuman9260
@normalhuman9260 Год назад
I hate the Virgin company so much,but love aerospace engineering.
@benjaminbrown3939
@benjaminbrown3939 Год назад
That last one is the most plausible, since the Space shuttle is retired and the 747 is no longer being produced.
@lonnieholcomb2078
@lonnieholcomb2078 Год назад
wow! I thought I was the only one who knew about Flight Dynamics Lab model 5, very cool
@OrdinaryLatvian
@OrdinaryLatvian 5 месяцев назад
A good rule of thumb is that whenever you ask yourself "am I the only one who...", the answer is always "No".
@Estes705
@Estes705 Год назад
Incredible attention to detail! Wondering if Neil Armstrong's X-15 flight where he skipped off the atmosphere and nearly didn't make it back to the runway is "spacey" enough to be depicted on your channel?
@UncleManuel
@UncleManuel Год назад
Just when you though you have seen everything there comes along a Boeing 747 with afterburners... 😲
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild Год назад
And hydrogen afterburners at that.
@CPS747-8
@CPS747-8 Год назад
I'm sorry... Did that 747 have CF6s with AFTERBURNERS???
@WolfeSaber9933
@WolfeSaber9933 Год назад
I heard Air Force One has afterburners on it.
@randycampbell6307
@randycampbell6307 Год назад
@@WolfeSaber9933 It doesn't the aft engine mount has the anti-missile system mounted there.
@KellyStarks
@KellyStarks Год назад
The FDL-5 is still one of my favorites of the old era shuttle designs. Very elegant little design. Glad to see your illustration of it.
@nagasako7
@nagasako7 Год назад
This is why I want to be a billionaire. Screw the rockets lol Afterburner 747 would be one hell of a transatlantic flight lol
@ptonpc
@ptonpc Год назад
It looked like the second one was longer that the Shuttle's cargo bay. Nonetheless, imagine if these had got off the drawing board?
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 Год назад
I remember a proposal for a Shuttle replacement in the 80s after Challenger. I'm not sure how serious it was but it was based on using a 747 for the first stage with the orbiter based off of the structure of the External Tank. There was also the Jarvis launcher based on the Shuttle ET that was proposed. The Air Force looked into a couple different launch systems for "on demand" or quick launch systems. One which has always intrigued me was the Black Horse. The orbiter takes off from a runway with a minimal fuel load and meets up with a tanker to take on fuel or LOX. Or both. Versions with pure rocket power or a mix of jet and rocket power were studied.
@silkyz68
@silkyz68 Год назад
747 with afterburners... yes please
@pseudotasuki
@pseudotasuki Год назад
It's like their primary goal was to make it complicated.
@jwholmes2
@jwholmes2 7 месяцев назад
I’ve never seen PW4000s with core afterburners until now…
@renanfeitosa101
@renanfeitosa101 Год назад
do a shuttle-buran mission like the apollo-soyuz
@edd4816
@edd4816 Год назад
A 747 equipped with WHAT?
@parssanaartgallery7038
@parssanaartgallery7038 Год назад
Please make Jamestown base and Mars 94 and also sojuner 1 from for all mankind
@randycampbell6307
@randycampbell6307 Год назад
So good as usual. And building on that... When do we get "STAR"? (Space Technology And Research spaceplane by Fred Redding, an 'open cockpit' spaceplane in one iteration :) ) Any other ALLV's in the pipeline?
@theelectricbrain97
@theelectricbrain97 Год назад
Can you make a animation on what happened to Colombia on its final flight? Too many documentaries have tried the same and none came close to simulating both the weakening of the structure around the breach and subsequent breakup of the vehicle.
@ajds
@ajds Год назад
Appropriate music, gorgeous skies. However, it is fueled... and I thought it knocked the shuttle vertical stabilizer off when it rotated after being lifted out of the shuttle cargo bay - that may have been my perspective having a problem, but I actually winced. Spectacular though, as always.
@enbygaming5996
@enbygaming5996 Год назад
Gonna try building these designs in KSP.
@TerraSpaceIndustries
@TerraSpaceIndustries Год назад
wow. its a very rockety rocket
@steveengleman9257
@steveengleman9257 3 дня назад
That was so COOL! Hazegrayart.....your graphics are the best!!
@greedycapitalist8590
@greedycapitalist8590 Год назад
The first one reminded me strongly of a proposed Russian spaceplane called MAKS.
@walkeas
@walkeas Год назад
Really exceptional video!!!! I also appreciated the incredible amount of energy that would be required during the initial ascent out of the back of a C-5. You would need a huge ISP to make that a reality. Any chance you can make any renders of the other FDL vehicles? Possibly FDL-7? Thanks!!!
@davidgreeson8946
@davidgreeson8946 Год назад
Great renders, animation, and music! As an actual "rocket scientist", your videos are always highly anticipated.
@thomasafb
@thomasafb Год назад
one minor correction, the payload bay doors of the Shuttle opened one at a time - starboard side first, then port
@DamplyDoo
@DamplyDoo Год назад
Why do the contrails stop when the hydrogen afterburners kick in
@normalhuman9260
@normalhuman9260 Год назад
Perhaps the close cycle oxidizer burns cleaner than the air for oxidizer does
@AccAkut1987
@AccAkut1987 Год назад
they wouldn't, if anything they would grow with that added hydrogen.
@normalhuman9260
@normalhuman9260 Год назад
@@AccAkut1987 that's what I was thinking. I understand that straight air has more than just oxidizer but youd think that an oxidizer would still leave bigger trails than just open cycle would.
@lilit_adamovich_aerospace
@lilit_adamovich_aerospace Год назад
Топчик)
@normalhuman9260
@normalhuman9260 Год назад
And shaft
@gergelyszakacs
@gergelyszakacs Год назад
Hats off, this is absolutely cool and implemented with outstanding quality, however (and I'm asking this seriously) does this make any sense for the military? I would think that a conflict zone anywhere on the Earth doesn't emerge from one minute to the other, and either the Navy or ground forces would deploy a team or some material nearby in advance. Not to mention the procedures required for a shuttle-derived launch system: cryogenic hydrogen and the ground equipment needed to handle it are not the most flight-friendly hardware to work with. Perhaps, an RP1-LOX system would be more practical, if the military insist on spending a few billion of taxpayers' money on this.
@S1nwar
@S1nwar Месяц назад
Slowing the rocket with parachutes before launch, what an unefficient design
@Тонилед
@Тонилед Год назад
Well, now it is logical to show the Soviet Spiral system, and the Satellite Fighter, they were the answer to all the US projects from this film. And the devices of the "Boron" series should be shown (They were needed to work out the Spiral and the Blizzard)
@toomanyhobbies2011
@toomanyhobbies2011 Год назад
Nice animation, but do a little reading on USA flag display. You got it wrong on the starboard side. Lighting a rocket while it's attached to the top of an aircraft won't work either. Making videos is OK, but try to get some facts correct.
@silverfox8615
@silverfox8615 Год назад
That C-130 launch looks dangerous as hell. Going flat into the airstream at that clip is going to flip you. At best, that's just throwing delta-V away.
@krimsonsun10
@krimsonsun10 Год назад
So this is how the X37B gets into orbit without anyone seeing the launch. Yet they claim it is launched from Vandenberg AFB.... Riiiight suurrree 😉
@cyborghobo9717
@cyborghobo9717 Год назад
Pls do early iteration VASIMR propelled ship Becuo but with seven fuel tanks instead of eight .
@Gibby8097
@Gibby8097 Год назад
The C-5 seems highly suspect. The vast amount of things that could happen when you fire a rocket in free fall two nutty to even try. But then again they did try to make us believe that aluminum could cut through Steel and bullets could make ninety-degree turns in midair and airliners that crash into Fields disintegrate
@johnstafford6810
@johnstafford6810 6 месяцев назад
The C-5 launch makes sense , as it tested deploying an ICBM from its cargo bay .
@jeremyjackson8196
@jeremyjackson8196 Год назад
Wouldn't the rocket being fired on top of the 747 absolutely destroy the aluminum shell
@BenjaminRowe-hc7uo
@BenjaminRowe-hc7uo Месяц назад
Great vid,only one thing,in the space shuttle scene there is the noise of rushing air,there is no noise in space.That whole scene should have been silent.👍
@jamesschenk
@jamesschenk 9 месяцев назад
The last launch could have possibly been done the air force did launched minuteman missiles from c141 starlifters like that
@u1zha
@u1zha Год назад
Is this description featuring an OpenAI poem about lifting body vehicles, or am I reading too much into the zeitgeist?
@skrape99
@skrape99 Год назад
I'm a big fan of the 747 and its amazing potential. Thanks for the visualization of one of those audacious schemes.
@NavidIsANoob
@NavidIsANoob Год назад
That last one is absolutely bonkers. What kind of cocaine were they supplying to the board room meetings of these concepts?
@fsbis
@fsbis Год назад
Все давно уже придумали совки, почитайте про Многоцелевую авиационно-космическую систему
@muhammadbenjuraij7734
@muhammadbenjuraij7734 Год назад
It makes total sense I mean why use all that fuel to blast straight up it makes no sense! There are Russian planes that can reach the end of our atmosphere almost touching space so why can’t they build a space plane instead of a rocket?
@Lastindependentthinker
@Lastindependentthinker Год назад
That last one. Being pulled out of a C5 Galaxy would be a butt clencher.
@ThatSB
@ThatSB Год назад
The space shuttles are all decommisioned though. And it is doubtful they could lift something of that size
@martinilopez1
@martinilopez1 7 месяцев назад
the last one is nonsense waste of fuel.. besides the inmense danger having a liquid fueled draged by a chute.
@_NguyenLaTrongNguyen_a
@_NguyenLaTrongNguyen_a Год назад
Hey everyone Can you tell me the name of the video game he is using for this video ? I don't know this.
@jamesschenk
@jamesschenk 9 месяцев назад
The rocket blast would have destroyed the 747 if it was launched like that
@euricerrud6028
@euricerrud6028 7 месяцев назад
Something you expect to see out of a Tom Clancy or Dan Brown book
@jamesschenk
@jamesschenk 9 месяцев назад
The second mission would have been a wast of money the shuttle could have done the mission alone
@MatchGuy
@MatchGuy 5 месяцев назад
Only 747 can reach speed of sound as it is not a hypersonic vehicle
@dalel3608
@dalel3608 Год назад
This would have taken down the spy balloon easy.
@43manassinghc-39
@43manassinghc-39 Год назад
❤❤❤👍👍👍👍
@SornRarm-yk7qr
@SornRarm-yk7qr Год назад
is that afterburner or just an attach solid booster on 747
@kaimcmichael7945
@kaimcmichael7945 Год назад
Outstanding..(Everything)..The concepts. The fact they're all real ideas. The quality of the renders...(Outstanding)
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm Год назад
Wow! These hyper realistic tenders literally just made my day….!!! Hazegrayart NEVER disappoints…..pure genius…….!!! 😃👍🏾
@dacnguyen1499
@dacnguyen1499 Год назад
My Ideas Invention Designs Aerospace It Launched from into The Ground of Spaceport to go up in the space, orbit.
@Kemulnitestryker
@Kemulnitestryker 11 месяцев назад
I was 9 years old when Apollo 11 landed on the moon, always have been interested in space, videos like this keep the dream alive.
@GABRIELARYA
@GABRIELARYA Год назад
Can you make more spaceplane content?
@DarkSideChess
@DarkSideChess Год назад
Could a 747 handle that type of stress on the airframe?
@randycampbell6307
@randycampbell6307 Год назад
With modifications it could. That has to happen anyway to carry a payload on top anyway but as noted above the twin rudders require reinforcing anyway.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Год назад
_I_ ❤️ _LIFTING BODIES!_
@OMrkithO
@OMrkithO Год назад
1:36 I cant tell if it is real or not! it's that good!!
@niraj_dave
@niraj_dave Год назад
dang that last one was something..kept wondering when it will start the engines😄
@jddavis8431
@jddavis8431 Год назад
Every video on this channel inspires my imagination.
@ThomasHaberkorn
@ThomasHaberkorn Год назад
open the pod bay doors Hal
@Sickrepellent
@Sickrepellent Год назад
I liked the music 😘
@mas_yayang
@mas_yayang Год назад
Yo bener 😂
@normalhuman9260
@normalhuman9260 Год назад
That looked so awesome! Loved the graphics.
@allanrogers7183
@allanrogers7183 Год назад
nice carft
@Charles-7
@Charles-7 Год назад
i'm shocked you didn't show one with the antonov-225.
@randycampbell6307
@randycampbell6307 Год назад
There's a MAKS video for that one :)
@emmanuelgarcia2870
@emmanuelgarcia2870 Год назад
😯
@CausticLemons7
@CausticLemons7 Год назад
Excellent!
@firstnamesurname6130
@firstnamesurname6130 Год назад
Love the poem!
@dirkweindel9492
@dirkweindel9492 Год назад
Genial
@WolfeSaber9933
@WolfeSaber9933 Год назад
Fueled is misspelled.
@alonespirit9923
@alonespirit9923 Год назад
I missed catching that, likely because I see so much British and Australian English online in hobby forums; we rebellious American colonials would use fueled while they would use fuelled. (assuming that is the video's spelling difference)
@cornbreadcuban5456
@cornbreadcuban5456 Год назад
Why would they use the Shuttle to get a lifting body into space?
@randycampbell6307
@randycampbell6307 Год назад
As noted to extend the operational range. The idea was the Shuttle would boost pretty much everything into orbit anyway.
@Mr.Robert1
@Mr.Robert1 Год назад
That's what happens when someone eats cornbread in Cuba.
@alonespirit9923
@alonespirit9923 Год назад
Some crazy cool stuff there. Have to wonder how much rebuilding of 747's aft end would have been required to accept the static and dynamic stresses of those 'barn door' twin fins and rudders.
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild Год назад
Check out the 2 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA N905NA and N911NA), they were used to launch OV-101 Enterprise during the Approach and Landing Test program/to return orbiter vehicles back to KSC/VAFB after they had landed elsewhere. The SCA had the very same vertical and horizontal stabilizers.
@alonespirit9923
@alonespirit9923 Год назад
@@hoghogwild No, not at all the same as 747 sans vertical stabilizer illustrated in video: the Shuttle carrier 747s retained the stock central vertical stabilizer and sported a pair of much smaller end plates at ends of horizontal stabilizer. References: Photos in books such as, Space Shuttle The beginning through STS75, by Dennis R. Jenkins, 1997; Space Shuttle, the first 100 missions, by Dennis R. Jenkins, 2001; NASA's own online photo galleries; and of course any photo ever of the 2 actual SC 747s.
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild Год назад
@@alonespirit9923 ou are correct, it wasn't the SCA, it was the Antonov I was picturing. The SCA had had the 2 supplemental vertical stabs, while the AN-225 Soviet SCA had the twin vertical stabs only. My apologies.
@alonespirit9923
@alonespirit9923 Год назад
@@hoghogwild Ah, okay.
@FeralRabbit
@FeralRabbit Год назад
One of the coolest proposals you've posted,ever.
@naughtyUphillboy
@naughtyUphillboy 9 месяцев назад
My god, you are the Man !!!!!!!!!!
@sendhelp444
@sendhelp444 Год назад
SPEECHLESS!
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