Toby, I find you very interesting. I have one question, I am 68. I. I would like to leave my home to my son's, however I want my girlfriend 67, to stay in the house until her she is deceased or unable to meet the mortgage obligations. Would this asset protection do this?
This is such a valuable lesson. I don’t like people whom I don’t know type in my home address and find out infos and go on to check my background and family infos. Not that I did anything wrong but it is shocking to see everything is in the public wide open!!
You dont need to do anything wrong. I had a lawyer to make a bogus claim on me 12 hours off from where I live in hockley county texas. He sent court proceedings to a physical address instead of my mail address and got a no discerning judge to slap a 750k default judgement on me. I paid 20k in lawyer fees to expose the truth and get due process to no avail. I finally ended up having to file bankruptcy for another hit paying lawyers. It is just a very corrupt government from the top to the bottom. Payola to lawyers and judges is the game.
This is very good information, I've often wondered how to accomplish this. These days with all of the harassment going on, stalking, scams, etc, this information is a keeper. I'm about to do this asap
In Los Angeles, the county is requesting for a copy of the trust that reveals the name of the beneficiary. Does the county have the right to get a copy of the trust?
Thanks for the info - was told an OOP was just a piece of paper and the individual was able to find my new home and move in close enough he could see in my backyard. I've been really anxious ever since about having my name attached to anything.
I was also wondering how this affects your accessing your property's equity: does it make it more difficult to get loans/mortgages? There's still an LLC involved. I've got more research to do regarding pros and cons of trusts vs. LLCs...
My partner did this with an investment property. As long as you are paying the mortgage, the bank will have no reason to look into who the owner of record is. However, if they do find out, they have the right to call the mortgage.
The problem with Nevada is if someone searches your name in the county assessor's website, you come up as the immediate past owner and transferor to the new entity. Also the assesor codes the transfer as a related party transaction so everyone knows its really still your house.
So, this only works the best when you first purchase the home? I need to prepare this in advance, I wonder if I need a lawyer or is it as simple as making a revocable living trust?
This is very good information, I've often wondered how to accomplish this. These days with all of the harassment going on, stalking, scams, etc, this information is a keeper. I'm about to do this asap.....
Toby, once a property is in your name, it'll show up in the string of title. So doesn't it stand to reason then, that anyone looking for where you live could assume the property was moved into a Trust but that you didn't move? In other words, isn't it too late if your name is associated with the property at closing? P.S. I follow you and Clint religiously. I'm a Titanium client and you guys are my heros. I learn so much from you. Thank you for all your content.
Thank you for your support. It is possible that a person could make that assumption. However, depending on the county, what is publicly disclosed, or if there are fees involved with searching records, it can make it more difficult to get to that assumption.
Thanks for the info. It's crazy that any random person can Google you can know where you live. There has to be some way to change this (from the politics side). If police officers have that protection it should be extended to everyone.
Great video! Is it better to do a land trust before or after getting married? I just bought a house with my fiance but we don't get married until next year...
Before, always before the marriage, land, homes, cars, boats...all before and less headaches. No one plans on getting divorced...fail to plan, plan to fail.
Our property was hiden from the public by using the confidential status. Hubby in law enforcement. Only problem is that when I try to look it up on the CAD for tax purposes any time during the year, I can't...so I can only see my taxes info when I receive paperwork for our taxing entity.
If you have a mortgage in your name, initially, you will have to close the loan in your name. Than that puts you on the chain or title..also the deed of trust in California is public record..Even if title says the name of a trust. You as the borrower or trustee signed the deed of trust. That can be pulled
I was getting texts, calls and mail from house flippers wanting to buy my house for low ball price. They all went to pva to find my name. I am glad housing market is crashing. Scumbag house flippers finally stop trying to contact me to try and lowball me on the property. My house has never been for sale.
i feel ya my house isnt on the market, yet ive had calls , txt , mail , an even a couple people show up at my home asking if i was interested in selling , me: is my house for sale ? me: please get off my property, as i shut the door in their face !
How to hide your assets, Home, Boat, Automobile etc.... is to buy your assets with a Bill of sale contract between 2 private parties. AND DO NOT Register NOTHING with ANY CORPORATION AKA do NOT REGISTER WITH THE STATE, as the STATE is a CORPORATION. Under CORPORATE terminology, the word " register" means " to sell an asset" via the application of Registration. Registration is to make an offer to a CORPORATION to sell your asset, the Corporation then accepts your offer, then you release liability of said asset to the CORPORATION in question. With a Bill of Sale, there is NO CONTRACT with any corporation. ya get it????? You register a child in PUBLIC corporate school, the parent just SOLD the child to a CORPORATION, the child then becomes the Corporations ASSET. Register your Automobile, you just released liability of your bought asset to a CORPORATION, as clearly stated on your Car TITLE, at the top read it (the transfer of liability)!!!! then the corporation then rents their asset - the Automobile under the Commercial title of MOTOR Vehicle, then make the renter pay for the privilege of DRIVING as an employee of said corporation, someone Elses Property aka the Asset you sold to the corporation. Ya get it ?????????
@@jodief8371 your lifes assets need NO registration with any Corporation. Your life's assets are Private, You are liable for what is yours. You are not obligated to contract with every corporation that makes you a offer to contract, ether by force, treat, trickery, word Fraud etc.. The Car details VIN, color, make and model outlined in your Bill of sale IS proof of ownership. You are Private, the Incorporated STATE is a Private Corporation. Your address identifies Your Name to be within the fictitious juricdication of the Private Federal Corporation. Your address also has a urban Lot address, when you use a address with Zip code, you are telling the Incorporation STATE and Federal Corporation that you are Corporate Chattel via your Name from your birth certificate. The Name is owned by the Federal Corporation. Do you understand what your Birth Certificate is all about?
Love it! Does this work in Cali with the LLC not based in Cali? Years ago I looked into a Delaware Corp, however, to do business in Cali, the same fess as a Cali S-Corp or LLC are due, or more. The fees part is foggy, but there are State Franchise Board Taxes, or a minimum of $600 in taxes per year, even with no profits. My very basic understanding was that this is also charged to any Corp or LLC outside the state that does business inside the state.
@@TobyMathisI am in Florida and I have suspected that a family member has done something like this during a probate case involving our mother. I’m in a small county and the lawyer, judge and property/tax entities are all in bed with each other. Please, what can I do to get legal access to the property deeds involved? There are 2 properties that are involved. I am disabled and I can’t afford an attorney but I have a relative in another state who has been in real estate for years now. Would my relative be able to access the property information? Any help for this situation would be appreciated and, if there is any foul play found, I would be more than willing to pay a generous amount of any amount that I would be able to recover.
This is great info, and when I left an abusive relationship, such possibilities were important to me. However, I discovered my address on the internet because I'd registered to vote. Do you have any solutions for the public display of voting records?
@@in-God-we-trust I don't know about all states but in my state, you have to have a physical address for an LLC. You could pay for a box at Mail Boxes Etc or something like that but no PO Boxes allow.
Love these videos and the podcast as well. How do you solve the utilities and USPS issue? Once these two entities, USPS and utilities have your name, your done for. Your info is showing up in simple searches on White Pages.
Ultimately, unless you are going to offer a third party some type of control over your asset protection structure, which we do not recommend, your name might be associated in some capacity. You may be signing as manager of an entity but this does not necessarily mean you are an owner. Where possible, using the name of the entity is preferable, but there is often a responsible party that is required.
@@TobyMathis How can I get help with this? I am seriously interested asap. FL. But, what about the Clerk of Courts (Public record)? My coworker did this.
I think this may be true for sewer/water/trash utilities - but I know in my area it's not the case for at least gas and electricity. 10 different rentals I've lived in where I had to switch the gas and electricity into my name, and none of those addresses ever showed up in any of my information online. I used a PO box for mail, so that PO box is the only address that shows up as an address for me.
Toby, I'm familiar with all of this except the Trustee as an LLC part. I haven't seen that. You definitely need to discuss that or do a video on the particulars about that. How that works and how it is put together and managed is very important. Thank you.
I think you meant "LLC as Trustee," since you could have an anonymous LLC listed as the Trustee to obscure your ownership. If it's a state like Wyoming or New Mexico that doesn't make their LLC owners names public, this makes it more difficult to draw a straight line from the property to you. First, they'd see that the deed is not in your name but in the name of a Trust. If they looked further, they'd see that the Trust is governed by the LLC. Looking even further, they might hit a dead end if there's no indication of who owns the LLC. At least that was my understanding...
Thank You very much for this clear information. I am one step from "one of the greats" and just the thought that somebody anywhere can just look me up on bing and google their way down my street makes me crazy. That and a lifetime of invasive-type people. But what about utility companies? Do they accept this land trust name? My homes from college long ago are popping up on public records, and why doesn't some law try to stop this?
I think you've addressed some of these questions, but can you update video to cover the following: What are the benefits and risks of using a land trust compared to other asset protection strategies? How does transferring property to a trust affect property taxes and mortgage agreements? Are there state-specific regulations or limitations on using land trusts for asset protection? (You've addressed Texas and Florida) ....I live in Florida What are the implications for estate planning and inheritance? How do you ensure that the transfer to a land trust does not violate the homestead exemption or other protections?
This may work for asset protection through an LLC, but if you have a SINGLE USPS piece of mail associated with your address, Dr. Google may find you. Removing your data through a service wiped from the internet it is very expensive. But hey whatever floats your boat!
Thanks so much, Toby. You made this seem so simple. A question is about the LLC. I thought they had to have a 'use' or purpose'; They need to have tax returns? Other than that hurdle, I'm ready to go.
Thank you! Can you get the original document in the name of the trust when purchasing so that your name never shows up at all and you don’t need to transfer?
Useful content !! Have you done land trusts in California successfully ? or in other words, do you have experience working with Californians on this subject ( keeping the name off )?
Hi, thank you for leaving your comment. You can request a free 45-minute consultation to discuss our proven asset protection and tax strategies and how they apply to your unique situation. Here is where you can get set up1 ------> aba.link/tobyss
Hello Toby, Love your videos, great information! I watched one of your other videos a while back regarding Wyoming LLC and how people are unable to see who owns the LLC. Could it be possible to do something like this by just going with a Wyoming LLC or do you have to involve the land trust step as well? Still learning all the ins and outs of the game so be patient with my questions...
Does a Living Trust accomplish the same thing? Also, there is a company that is selling protection from having your home title stolen (cost was $100/year). I heard a speaker say that a fraudulent conveyance is by definition is illegal and such "insurance " is unnecessary. Can you do a video on this?
A living trust (as opposed to testamentary trust) is simply a trust created during lifetime. There are many different kinds of living trusts. I like those created under section 678 of Title 26. Use a trust name that is unrelated to your name.
Thank you Mr Mathis for such a informative video I used to sell real estate here in las vegas and if I wanted to search someone with their name all I did was go into the recorders record and find which parcel number they had recorded in the past was associated with their name and then just get the address and do a drive by to see if they still lived there so now with your method will that information be also removed from the recorders office or is that a permanent records Thanks andy
Hi Toby, great video and very informative. I am a real estate professional here in Las Vegas and I have a question on how this will work. My understanding is that you put the property into the trust and it does not show you as the current owner. However in Clark County you can search current and previous owners and it will still show the the previous owner and then a transfer to a trust but it will not show as a resale. So someone can still look to see you as the previous owner and then the transfer to the trust and assume you are still the owner. Does this process in anyway hide previous owner, or is there a way to remove the previous owner from public records?
Yea I’m an agent as well and I can pull up all the transfer history… I guess the property will be protected because the LLC is anonymous so they can’t prove your ownership even though you just transferred it lol
This is a very relevant question, Andrew. The same applies here in Texas. To take it a step further, my mortgage broker recently told me if I wanted to refi a property, it’d have to be in my name before the refi could take place, and I could move it over to a trust afterwards. That statement didn’t seem right to me, so either I need another mortgage broker or I need to figure out how to keep my name off of the ownership history and still do a refi.
@@steveh4837 Not sure why u feel it wouldn't seem correct, as a trust is what transfers ownership in the future, but it is making it unavailable now also. Being on disability-my father couldn't add my sister or I to his home to prevent probate-and due to fact we are both sick/disabled-;we can't have more than 1 home as an asset & receive disability-bc of Medicaid-which covers too much help we need now-- So only way(s) we could avoid probate w my fathers assets (home & any funds) we to put it in a "Living" trust with our names. This somehow has whatever the Gov"t needs to allow them to validate the transfer at death-so can avoid loosing benefits now-& not have to deal w Probate etc later. (Also found at least in our State of MI we could fill out forms that he instructed his financial instit. to trans it in writing before had by legal papers signed by a Notary. So the trust-being a "trust" account-would prevent the Financial institution from being able to attach their ownership of the property with a lein so to speak for whatever amt of funds would be due on event of non-pay or death-which the deed has in a living trust has already legally been transfered in name (& value) to the beneficiary of the trust at death. So I hope that helps u understand why at the least they would have to have the documents of them as 1st leinholder- would have to be done b4-- the trust would legally appoint the beneficiary to gain full ownership at death- if the mortgage wasn't done prior to death/ bc the trust would b appointing ownership to beneficiary 1st at death. They want to guarantee they legally have #1 grab at value 1st! legally.
@@Kaylin_h Thank you for your explanation and a lot of what you say makes sense. It actually brings up thoughts I’ve had about the need to transfer my mothers house out of her name and place it to where a future medical entity could not place a lien on it. She is a retired schoolteacher of humble means and lives on a fixed income. Perhaps that would be a topic Toby would cover for us at some point in the future. As my thinking is I would love to move her house from her name possibly into a trust so that if she went to assisted-living in the future, we could rent the house and use the proceeds to place toward her care rather than having to give the house up. Further, my initial topic was on that of rental properties. My mortgage broker had indicated that if I own a rental property in a trust, and wanted to refi in the future, I would have to move the rental property directly back to my name in order to do the refi and then move it back to a trust afterward. That is what I was ultimately seeking clarification on as well.
Great presentation Toby! However, Im a bit confused. I believe you implied that this structure does not invalidate the protection of a FL homestead. Im not sure how that can be. My understanding is that for the protection a FL homestead to attach to a home, numerous requirements must be met, one being that the home be owned by a natural person. Towards the end of your video, I believe you said that it would not work for a FL homestead. Can you please clarify?
He said you COULD use a grantor trust in FL but rarely would, instead electing for the LLC since those states are already favorable to beneficiaries (lots of protections other states, such as California or NY, don't offer).
Too late if your name is already on it. I found a site that has so much info about me it's mind boggling. Has my parents old address and phone # from 40 years ago. They haven't been there that long
I once owned a ranch that a developer had earmarked for a large development. The developer was paying people to make an offer on my property, and just before the close date, they'd cancel the purchase offer. This happened about 4 or 5 times over the course of a year or so. I found out about this when the last couple told me what they were doing (good people feeling guilty). They told me the developer knew my financial status and he payed them $5,000 cash just to make the offer and drop out before closing. The developer was doing this to make me go broke and sell it to him on the cheap. Needless to say when I found this out I called the developer and let him know the cat was out of the bag. I made him a final offer (several hundreds of thousands more than he wanted to pay), and he accepted it, begrudgingly. I called a lawyer and he told me this is perfectly legal. I'm wondering if this was the legal tactic he was using, or was it something else?
Thank you so much for your question! We highly recommend you join us at our next Free Tax & Asset Protection Workshop Livestream. Our attorneys and specialists will answer all your questions at no additional cost. Save Your Seat: aba.link/taptoby
Hi Toby.. I grew up in Vegas but live in Texas. I’m interested in this process so you have any recommendations of attorneys who can handle this in Houston,Tx.
This won't work there are way to many data collection points. Here's a few credit cards, banks , credit agency's, Amazon eBay, home delivery apps. 1000s of phone apps, stores, Uber, your phone, GPS, Google Facebook car rentals, uses FedEx ups, ect ect. Your address will eventually be picked up by internet bots. Thus although county records may not say it, your address will be associated with your name
It's simple...so you cannot be manipulated, doxxed, stalked, or blackmailed for everything you earned. Sometimes, the biggest threat is within the borders of your home.
You can transfer the property via warranty deed to the land trust with an existing loan. We encourage this rather than having the loan made directly to the land trust since this depends largely on the lender allowing you to do so. We provide and recommend our deed services when transferring property to a land trust to ensure it is done correctly.
In California, will the Secretary of State charge me $800 a year for a land trust? Does the anonymous Wyoming LLC own the California Land Trust? If so, since there’s 2 Entities involved, will California want $1600 a year???
Does this keep it away from Social Security Disability and the Medicaid 5-year look-back period? Will all these questions be answered? There are some good ones!
How do you prevent someone from back dooring the search, where they do a Security Deed search instead of a property search. Because they can find your address through the Security Deed search.
@@DM-lk5ym Anytime someone takes out a mortgage when they buy a home, the bank will put a Security Deed on the public record; this essentially notifies everyone they are the 1st lien holder. All those documents you signed at closing when you bought your home a visible to the public.
Green video explain general info, but there’s no step by step on how to exactly do it. Do you/your company do this for people? I really need this done!
We offer a variety of services here at Anderson, please refer to our page and let's see if we can help you achieve what you're looking for andersonadvisors.com/products-and-services/
I have my cars in a trust, no name associated with it but the made up name like Phoenix Trust dated ...... owns the car. P.O. box for mailing address for DMV. Good luck having your name show up while being followed. Use a common law Pure Trust.
@@YeshuaKingMessiah Same in Cali, but my trust physical location was entered at a friends house and never changed (10 years ago and friend moved to AZ 8 years ago). The agent of the the trust or trustee has to sign also, but....they can do that for mulitple cars (cars that are put into the trust). I am much farther out there than most however, I haven't' had a Drivers License in 12 years and I revoked mine (so it did not go into suspension and still be there). I am also a state national, recognized by the Sec of State for the USA.
I don't have a house yet. Can this be done prior to closing? I want to keep my residence private and anonymous, and I would like to have my tax reports private and anonymous as well. How do I do that? Can you hold my hand figuratively and walk me through that process?
If you are already in the process of purchasing your house and the closing is already set then it is highly unlikely that a structure will be able to be implemented in the time left prior to closing. If you are simply stating that sometime in the future you would like to do this we can, and are happy, to help you find the best structure and strategy for you in your particular situation.
Interesting. I'm in Ca. and would like to do this with the house we are thinking about buying. Not wealthy or anything, just don't like that anyone can google your name and see where you live. What would it cost to do what you are talking about, and how long would it take to do it, can it be done in escrow?? Thank you for the great video 👍👍👍
Thank you so much for your question! We highly recommend you join us at our next Free Tax & Asset Protection Workshop Livestream. Our attorneys and specialists will answer all your questions at no additional cost. Save Your Seat: aba.link/taptoby
Thank you so much for your question! We highly recommend you join us at our next Free Tax & Asset Protection Workshop Livestream. Our attorneys and specialists will answer all your questions at no additional cost. Save Your Seat: aba.link/taptoby
Hi Toby Thanks for the great video. Will the name come off completely from the public records for that property transferred? Cause I can see the property when I currently search for my name. Will the property not ever show up again after the transfer when I search my name?
Thank you so much for your question! We highly recommend you join us at our next Free Tax & Asset Protection Workshop Livestream. Our attorneys and specialists will answer all your questions at no additional cost. Save Your Seat: aba.link/taptoby
Hi Toby, we are retired and have both our residential rental properties in a revocable trust. Our names are still coming up on the public tax records. Can we do a LLC in Wyoming holding the trust thereby providing liability protection? And if so, who can I use to set this up? And what should this cost us?
Actually, we would typically recommend a different structure that offers protection for your properties and yourself, but still involves the Living Trust to avoid probate on assets. You would benefit from an individualized strategy session through our platinum program at Anderson. Please call 877-513-2658 if you are interested. Typically we recommend LLCs setup in the state where the property is located to own the rental property. Those are held or owned by an LLC setup in WY to act as a holding company. Generally, that WY Holding Company LLC is owned by the Living Trust.
I don’t believe so, I know you didn’t ask me but I’m pretty sure you could still get sued if they could find you if it was something legitimate of course. So many people try to sue Over ridiculous things these days. You should look into an umbrella policy and if you’re self-employed Errors and omissions insurance
@@PhishedOff There are revocable trusts. Trusts in persons A name and A is being sued I've heard of judges telling A to release the funds from that trust because their name is on it. Irrevocable trusts are when a 3rd party runs it and nothing is in your name. A judge can not order your to release funds from that trust since it is not yours. But the difference is looking up Assets. If you can see them or find a trust with your name on it judges can do more I've heard. Thought i would check.
Toby, my parents own a farm and my sister wants to take it over. My parents can’t physically sell it to her because she can’t afford it. For an instance like this, with tax complexities involved, what should my parents to do allow my sister to take ownership, but also make sure that if something happened between my sister and her spouse, the farm stays in our family and not taken away. Thanks!
She can receive it as a gift from your parents. The parents would file a gift tax return on that, showing the value of the gift and that would deduct from their lifetime estate tax exemption. In community property states gifts are separate property and will retain that character unless your sister decides to bring the husband in. In equitable property states, a judge may treat a gift or inheritance as separate property, but may in some circumstances also treat it as marital property to make things more fair and equitable in a divorce rather than equal as in community property states. In any case, a pre-nuptial or post-nuptial agreement would help govern the disposition of the asset in the event of a divorce.
Hey Toby, this case of LOST your Property when do you Put Them to the LLC in FL or TX this respect to the Personal Property😉 this do Not apply to the COMERCIAL Property ok? 🤔
To provide you with more tailored advice based on your specific situation, I recommend signing up for a free strategy session. During the session, we can discuss your current circumstances, whether you're in the pre-purchase phase or have already acquired the property. Visit aba.link/6rb
I just need to avoid home taxes. Government need to exempt (60ys old) home owners. At least a discount of 75%. We workers from 8:00am to 5:00pm all life and pay for our house, retired at 62yr and retirement $ is💰💩. Not enough to pay home taxes?..
