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How to Identify Ancient stone Indian artifacts through pecking and grinding 

William Shira
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This video talks about the how the Ancient inhabitants did pecking and grinding in order to craft hard stones into tools. Understanding the methods used helps to identify Ancient Indian artifacts that were made thousands of years ago on the American continent, the United States in particular. This is to help distinguish the difference between the more commonly recognized flint type tools and weapons from the more hard stone tools made from basalt, granite and other non-brittle stones.

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@duanehopland7506
@duanehopland7506 3 года назад
Im glad someone recognizes how artifacts are made. I get so sick of correcting folks that think natural stones are artifacts and argue no matter how much you show them or explain.I replicate artifacts using percussion flaking, pressure flaking, indirect percussion and pecking with quartzite hammerstone and grinding with sandstone and other abbraisive stones and drilling with stone drills and river cane sand and water for 40 years. Also 40 years hunting and studying artifacts from all over the world so I recognize ancient tool markings better than most .They jump out at me when artifact hunting. You would think these people claiming natural stones are artifacts would like to learn so they could find artifacts easier but they don't want to learn and insist natural stones are artifacts :) I need to do a video on RU-vid showing exactly how it's done and Stone tools utilized . hematite doesn't grind well it was scrapped with blades of stone
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
You have no clue how hematite was shaped . Stop trying to sound like you are some expert. Get s life!
@AltruisticInMind
@AltruisticInMind 2 года назад
Preach
@michealtorres8598
@michealtorres8598 2 года назад
Yeh its entertaining but i also get embarrassed for the person.
@SLBLADE
@SLBLADE Год назад
@@michealtorres8598 what the hell u mean embarrassed for the person?? That's stupid
@Hunter-yn1vd
@Hunter-yn1vd Год назад
I diddnt read this.
@mirisquires9922
@mirisquires9922 Год назад
i find tools like this in Aotearoa, (NewZealand). as well as anchor stones similiar to ancient Indian ones. Recently i found a beautifully shaped and ground stone bowl. We are all connected thru the Pacific travel and trading days.
@archeologicalstudent5234
@archeologicalstudent5234 19 дней назад
The Indians in California have some Japanese and Pacific Islander genetics. Would be interesting to compare tools
@mb-xg5be
@mb-xg5be 5 лет назад
I have numerous stone (handheld) artifacts. Besides the pecking and polishing, you can also find "hand polish" on the artifact. Mostly in pestles. As you move the artifact around in your hand, you'll find the exact fit the designer intended. Sometimes I find if a tool fits awkward in your right hand, it fits perfectly in your left hand. So the ancient designer was left handed. I love to find hand polish on a tool. You feel a real connection with the ancient users.
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
Fitting in your hand has nothing to do with anything . I see this daily on other forums . You have a lot of learning to do clown!
@ericschmuecker348
@ericschmuecker348 Год назад
m b. Just because your dick fits your hand doesn't mean it's a tool.
@letsart6434
@letsart6434 Год назад
I so often find sooooo many rocks that I swear have been shaped for some purpose but it's so hard to tell if that's just how the rock eroded and it's just a coincidence. Like obsidian. Some pieces flake naturally on their own right? Or if you see those marks does it always mean it was worked?
@chrishosek6636
@chrishosek6636 4 года назад
I have recently found some stones on my property that look like ancient indian tools. Looking these over carefully with magnifying glasses and LED light it is very obvious that someone made those chips in the stone and faces they are not natural. When you are new at this like I am you need someone to go through it slowly and explaining it all. I have a college education but still I need help in areas unfamiliar to me. Thank you for your video and taking the time to explain the basics.
@tannerjudkins3674
@tannerjudkins3674 2 года назад
I'm new as well although my entire life I have been intrigued in rock 🪨 formations. I've got a decent collection already and have only been searching a couple months. I need help with identification. This video is great and all but there needs to be a website that I can send pictures to. Any ideas?
@SLBLADE
@SLBLADE Год назад
@@tannerjudkins3674 make some videos 👋👍💯❤️☺️
@TheZinminjr
@TheZinminjr 3 года назад
I have 3 "knives" just like yours! I am so glad I found your video! I think 2 of mine were slate - found at the bottom of a hillside (in a creek) near High Banks Metro Park in Powell, Ohio. Hopewell - Adena Indian Mounds nearby. I will make a video because I'd love to hear your view! Actually, my son found these when he was about 7. He kept bringing up a rock every 5 seconds...I held onto these 2 for some reason cause they felt heavier and didn't flake off, weren't brittle. When we got home, they were like OMG moments. he also found a statue carving of what looks like a mom holding a baby in the same creek. It is weather worn and/or incomplete...made of sandstone. small, can fit into your hand. I can't find it - I have been all over the house and garage looking - just heart broken - I wrapped it in plastic bag to preserve. It is with a "drill" my wife found - in creek in Belmont County on her Uncle's property where there were lots of arrowheads and an axe head. Will show too! Thank you for posting your video - I subscribed and liked! Zin
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
Taking artifacts from parks is highly illegal. The fact that you are on here bragging about it shows just how stupid you really are. That being said, i have notified the conservation police in your area . You will lose all of your artifacts . What a way to teach your kid on how to be a piece of shit theif!!
@mikelobello6737
@mikelobello6737 3 года назад
Thank you for taking the time to explain how they peck and grind their tools.
@ginaland411
@ginaland411 3 года назад
I wasn’t sure if what I found was an artifact or not. But, according to your information, I think it is. Great! I love walking around in nature & finding a piece of history!
@Legionario186
@Legionario186 Год назад
So, do I
@coyotearrowheadhunting3083
@coyotearrowheadhunting3083 4 года назад
Excellent explanation friend. Despite not understanding English, I clearly appreciated the usefulness of each of the artifacts. THEY ARE PRECIOUS. Congrats friend.
@rawkinj6609
@rawkinj6609 2 года назад
Woke up thinking about this...and here it is!! Thanks so much!
@lanceetexas
@lanceetexas 8 лет назад
Excellent videos, very educational! I have quite an extensive stone tool collection and I'm always looking for more info and education on them. Keep 'em coming! Thank you!
@amariebfree5326
@amariebfree5326 Год назад
Thank you for such an informative video! I've found stones that are for sure worked and shaped, but were slate and not flint so I was not 100% sure of how authentic they were.
@buffarow
@buffarow 7 лет назад
Best collection of non artifacts I've ever seen.
@216trixie
@216trixie 7 лет назад
Look like tools to me. Example please?
@denaredford6701
@denaredford6701 7 лет назад
Steve Row , look like tools .
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 6 лет назад
216trixie (He's a troller) ignore
@joeellis4013
@joeellis4013 6 лет назад
Beth Bartlett he is really not. none of that is worth any money. why? there rocks not points or axes you have never seen any of that bull shit in a muesem or at a artifact show because they are nothing.
@passionfire1317
@passionfire1317 6 лет назад
they are grinding tools hammer stone and arrow heads... this actually one of his best videos... not any way natural rock formations...
@sultros
@sultros 4 года назад
Thank you for posting this. This provides, at the minimum, an explanation for many of the stones and petrified wood fossils ive found that have similar shapes and parkings. Only recently did I start to explore why so much of the petrified wood pieces have similar shapes and features.
@noahwallace2406
@noahwallace2406 2 года назад
Hi, I live in southwest Virginia near the Clinch River but I live where part of an Alluvial floodplain once drained in the bottom of a holler. I've been educating myself on mound builder culture because there are two mounds found 6 mi from where I live. All of what I'm finding now is where in artisan well starts and feeds the Clinch River. I have spear points,axr heads, Hammer stones, I'm dealing with some hand size tools and I'm also dealing with some much bigger axes and you can tell farming implements. I have hundreds of artifacts and and finding a ton more I don't know if I'm in a quarry site, village site, or I kill site.
@michaeldouglas1243
@michaeldouglas1243 3 года назад
Please do some more videos as it has been a few years since you have done any
@yellerbrown4206
@yellerbrown4206 3 года назад
Thank u for taking the time to explain these tools I would have passed up quite a few things ic I didn't see this video..I have a question if ustill read these comments .. I found a stone and I was told its a nut stone but he couldn't tell me what they were used for do u have any idea??? I was told multiple things
@LostLeftyLimb
@LostLeftyLimb 2 месяца назад
Wow this made me realize I have a TON of pecking stones. I have one that looks like they had a metal bit or something imbedded into it. And several I thought looked like the head of a pick or something but I watched this video and picked it up and it fit right into the my hand so beautifully it felt like it was made for it. Go figure it was after all.
@drfosty8836
@drfosty8836 6 лет назад
You ramble so much about these non artifacts that I was beginning to think we were in 'the twilight zone'...
@justinmccord1818
@justinmccord1818 3 года назад
Lol, he has been for a while now you can tell, what gets me is how many people actually believe him
@chadouellette790
@chadouellette790 3 месяца назад
What's your background? I don't think you know $hit with your negative comments. Dr do nothing
@muchmorecoffee
@muchmorecoffee 8 месяцев назад
I have a stone tool much like the last one in the video that was found in Western Massachusetts. It's a beauty.
@Chiptin2
@Chiptin2 7 лет назад
William, I've been picking through a large former farmer's rock pile, approx. 50 feet in diameter, with about half of its perimeter sung below ground level over the last 150 years. No one has added to it in over 60 years. I have found many of the same artifacts, and most show obvious use wear, and handling/shaping. The beveled butt end, where the hand holds the object is common to many items. The signs of skin oils where gripped, and of plant [?] staining still shows. I found many ax heads of varying rock materials with notches on them to accommodate hafting. Many of the grinding/pecking tools, etc., are made from the local dolomite/limestone which is in abundance here in southeastern Wisconsin. The main nay-sayers I've encountered say that dolomite can't be knapped so it was never used in stone tool manufacturing. They refuse to acknowledge the finds worldwide by accomplished trained archaeologists, including the Koster site in Illinois. I would love to have trained people examine the artifacts under microscope and/or chemical analysis, but so far no takers. I'm a believer!
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles 3 года назад
An expert is someone from out of town. Twain. I worked in a Kawasaki motorcycle shop as a mechanic. Some models of Kawasaki bikes had badly designed gearboxes. A mechanic at our sister shop told Kawasaki how to fix the problem because he'd had experience with early Yamaha's with the same problem. Kawasaki said no, we have fixed the problem. Well they hadn't and came back and asked how to do it. You would think they'd be experts, but apparently not.
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
You are high . Lay off the drugs
@Fgway
@Fgway 7 месяцев назад
I also got a rock pile to look through and over a few years found several tools. Five pound nut smasher, three pound scraper, a flat top triangle stone with scrape marks, and a thimble-like object that sits in the left palm (also scraped like hit with needle). My favorite is the scraper as it looks like banded green quartz. The local area has an extinct super volcano and was probably sourced here There must be so many more of these for those who have eyes to see them...
@christophermichael.w.7577
@christophermichael.w.7577 3 года назад
Hi.last year I found a stone axe head.I still have it and sometimes I try to find out more info about stone tools because I've never talked to anyone else who has found something like that where I live.It's alot like one you hold at 5:45 in the video
@srl2634
@srl2634 3 года назад
I would love to know what they used a charm stone 4 . They have a pivot point & are mostly of granite & have smooth surface on certain places.
@jayjohnston6912
@jayjohnston6912 2 года назад
Thank you, you video identified a hammer stone That I found in Wisconsin. Can I ask if a hammer stone is found does that tell me the immediate area where The stone was found is a Indian settlement site and That I should revisit the site for more artifacts? Thank you
@fayeyother7336
@fayeyother7336 4 года назад
I read somewhere that the noted out almost L shape was used for smoothing arrows.
@fannieallen6005
@fannieallen6005 4 года назад
What great relics.
@johnraymond3732
@johnraymond3732 7 лет назад
I study the real history now, and this is a prime example of what the so called experts should be looking into and trying to piece this things together. It is people like you around the world who are showing me that there were older cultures that have mastered these building practices that could not do today!
@tacosalad4113
@tacosalad4113 6 лет назад
Most people around here in southwest ar think I'm loco...but that's ok ...I enjoy the rich indian history and the blessings of finding indian artifacts
@ericschmuecker5573
@ericschmuecker5573 4 года назад
@Jason JenningsRocks. Like the one in your head.
@davidaustin7697
@davidaustin7697 2 года назад
Yes, I understand what you are saying, I have found rocks that are definitely shaped from some work from it, it’s not natural, explaining is on dude thanks
@wwiifiles2791
@wwiifiles2791 4 года назад
Your videos are so helpful!! I have several new stone tools I’ve found and need help identifying- do you have an email address?
@pammer58
@pammer58 11 месяцев назад
At 5: 37 or so, that tool...it looks rough...what material is it made of?
@noahwallace2406
@noahwallace2406 2 года назад
I would love some help and looking at all the tools that I have and help identifying them and the culture that made them
@cynthiaskaggs6645
@cynthiaskaggs6645 Год назад
Great video! We recently dug a 20’x40’ 7ft deep pond on our property and I found many stones that are obviously pecked and ground. We live in ancient Illini/Iroquois territory and I’ve found so many interesting stones deep in the clay layer!
@SLBLADE
@SLBLADE Год назад
Make a video of them please ✌️🤝😊😎
@TheAprilSpies
@TheAprilSpies 3 месяца назад
I have found hammer stones in my yard while digging up areas for my garden but not any stones I could tell were shaped by them. I'll look more closely when we do more digging.
@jeffreyelliott622
@jeffreyelliott622 2 года назад
Well dang !! All through the years of my wandering in about rivers and streams during gold prospecting I was finding these exact stones and rocks and didn't know what they were and just tossed them aside and now I know different to collect these as well !!!
@paul6922
@paul6922 Год назад
Me too Jeffrey. I started finding similar stuff digging here in Colorado.
@D-proGram_Yousef
@D-proGram_Yousef 6 месяцев назад
In Washington State as well. I think it was all from a previous civilization that covered the entire globe.
@iwagonburner
@iwagonburner 2 года назад
I found what I think is a knife but it’s only palm size , like it’s only meant to be held with the fingers and palm 🤔 did they make knives that small ?
@killersheep1588
@killersheep1588 2 года назад
so...if I have some stones. What should I do with them?
@treasurehuntingscotlandmud9340
@treasurehuntingscotlandmud9340 2 года назад
Good finds enjoyed the video
@justinbarney5137
@justinbarney5137 4 года назад
That black obsidian arrow head is clearly a fake
@sethflint4299
@sethflint4299 3 года назад
All of his "points" are most likely fake lol
@ronaldcrawford637
@ronaldcrawford637 7 лет назад
you are a man that saves our history thank you for your work I think our schools should teach our kids to do this get them out and away from the TV our kids are getting very lazy.
@Mithreniel
@Mithreniel 4 года назад
Maybe get kids to photograph and document the items in a discovery book, too. Where and when the objects were found, other artifacts found in the area, etc. Archaeologists or historians might want the info one day and kids could be a part of it. :)
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
Teach them to show off their fake artifacts
@eddielile7177
@eddielile7177 2 года назад
I think the first big stone is a club !! Grip the end you were showing they probably left part of it unground for grip ?
@jppestana1
@jppestana1 8 лет назад
Thanks for these posts. What region of the country are you in?
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
Your moms bedroom
@kristellasalupan6584
@kristellasalupan6584 3 года назад
Hi, sir... i have a stone found in a river,, no idea what kind of tools is this.. i send u a picture, if u want..
@tonyvonruden7067
@tonyvonruden7067 2 года назад
trying to find out what kind of stone artifact that I found never seen one like this before
@paleomountainman9824
@paleomountainman9824 6 лет назад
How was quartz crystal worked into fine effigy sculpture ?
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles 3 года назад
Sandpaper
@365headhunter3
@365headhunter3 2 года назад
@@redtobertshateshandles LMAO
@pamkeener8248
@pamkeener8248 2 года назад
I have found several plus a very hundred maybe pound rock with carvings, who or where do I find information on Fayette, Alabama Native American artifacts (tools ànd large stone markings)
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
Stop doing meth
@archeologicalstudent5234
@archeologicalstudent5234 19 дней назад
This is rare to see even museum curators know very little
@duanesather4559
@duanesather4559 Год назад
What is that heart shaped stone? I found one just like that.
@jamebrooke894
@jamebrooke894 5 лет назад
Yes Indian artifacts 101, GREAT VIDEO. Learned all this 50 years ago from man who'd been hunting and collecting since the 1920's.
@gailawoodard1051
@gailawoodard1051 3 месяца назад
I have alot of recent finds, but when I presented them to someone with supposed knowledge, he said they were ALL formed naturally. I REALLY feel like because I found an area not known for ancient tools, that egos have tried to make me think otherwise. Id really like to send you some pictures of some of my finds, and would LOVE your opinion. Please comment back if your are interested in looking at them. Thanks So Much!
@mikehurricane5767
@mikehurricane5767 4 года назад
Thanks so much! I like to learn something new every day. Your knowledge is appreciated.
@briancrowder7473
@briancrowder7473 2 года назад
Thanks
@Chrisamos412
@Chrisamos412 4 года назад
Very informative video, thank you!
@tinaleal1489
@tinaleal1489 5 лет назад
Very cool thank you for the information I live in Arizona and I've been collecting rocks pretty much all over town just on the streets or in washes and almost all the rocks are Indian tools or arrowheads do I've been interested on knowing what they are used for they look real...
@justinmccord1818
@justinmccord1818 3 года назад
If you found it in the streets, it's more than likely not going to be an artifact
@laurablair1424
@laurablair1424 Год назад
Thank you from BC Canada
@jellykelly333
@jellykelly333 Год назад
I had a “eagle head” jade, probably came from Souyen Tribe. Really want to donate it to the this tribe, but don’t know how to find their descendants.
@D-proGram_Yousef
@D-proGram_Yousef 6 месяцев назад
I tried to do the same for some of the irrefutables Ive found and thought they belonged with the local tribe more so than myself but after mentioning it to several of the local natives I found they had no interest whatsoever. Maybe the right person and I will cross paths someday.. until then Ill hang onto them for safe keeping.
@d.j.badenhorst1713
@d.j.badenhorst1713 4 года назад
How can we get in contact with him?
@emilyg.8157
@emilyg.8157 3 года назад
Not sure, would love to chat with him and show some items I’ve found. All my artifact groups quickly and vehemently say the items I’m finding are natural and not tools. He seems open minded about ALL stone tools, instead of just knapped stones!
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
You finds are nothing also . Keep dreaming
@dhammiam
@dhammiam 5 лет назад
What would they use the large stones for?
@wildernessseagull1438
@wildernessseagull1438 7 лет назад
I love all of these. I found some triangle shaped obnects along the rock river's edge. Is it possible to be old clay pottery?? Thanks!
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
No
@katwilliams6602
@katwilliams6602 4 года назад
When I was a kid I found an arrowhead right on a nature trail I was walking on. It wasn’t buried or anything just right there in plain view. Ive just remembered it and now I’m really wondering if it’s real or a replica somebody dropped out there since it was just sitting there. Can I send you a picture and mayb you can tell me?
@JoSoso-tp8dl
@JoSoso-tp8dl 2 месяца назад
I live in a small gavle pit and I have so much of this and I even have found a foissl of a human fanger👆that has been cut off from it having gain green I would be ok with sell this would like to sell it
@susietigger2280
@susietigger2280 9 лет назад
I found a stone that looks like a tool. I am not sure that it is definitely a tool or not. Do you have a way have accepting pictures?
@WilliamShira
@WilliamShira 9 лет назад
Susie Tilley My email is wsbillshira@gmail.com. It is not always easy to identify artifacts by a picture but I can look at it and see. Thanks for watching.
@roscoep.coltraine6344
@roscoep.coltraine6344 7 лет назад
+William “theneolithic” Shira they're not easy to identify by photos and are probly just rocks unless this wingnut found it
@shirleyglenn3844
@shirleyglenn3844 6 лет назад
Hello I need help I have a lot of the same artifacts you have found but I would like to talk to you and see if you can help me identify them
@shirleyglenn3844
@shirleyglenn3844 6 лет назад
email is shirleyglad073@gmail.com
@Otis-Tank
@Otis-Tank 3 года назад
I haves spot in the desert here where I’m finding allot of old Anasazi people!!
@pamelacorona3665
@pamelacorona3665 6 лет назад
What is that beautiful green stone you often show ? : )
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
A stone dildo . Nice huh?
@jezebel-uh4qr
@jezebel-uh4qr 6 лет назад
Good job, I have dozens of the same artifacts, plus plus plus.
@billyhouston5521
@billyhouston5521 6 лет назад
5:29 / crocodile - on rt , boar - on left . irregularities prob contain many more effigies - use a single light source to cast shadow across the surface , rotate at diff angles. the slate ones also have templates built in to the designs, as do others. watch for map stones they can be boulders or walnut size. KUTGW
@justinmccord1818
@justinmccord1818 3 года назад
Not all natural, but a huge percentage of these are indeed" geofacts"
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
Yep some of these people think every damn rock they find is a native artifact.
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles 3 года назад
Don't forget that American Indians were there for a few years and had time to make a lot of these.
@Eoliths
@Eoliths 9 месяцев назад
Some great elephant art in there.
@Otis-Tank
@Otis-Tank 3 года назад
That granite was poured. Check out 2019 the great pyramid k. Here on you tube
@Chief2Moon
@Chief2Moon 6 лет назад
You show some unquestionable artifacts no one can argue about,&some that while they may be "geofacts", it doesn't mean they weren't used for some purpose. Not every tool required alteration to be useful. Ignore the "haters" Bill, carry on!
@jayclark2245
@jayclark2245 7 лет назад
Let me restate; Some of your specimens are natural, others are obviously artifacts
@roundeye6519
@roundeye6519 5 лет назад
Jay Clark that is where it is tough. You can provide all the "evidence" in the world but nothing can be proven by anyone at all. All an archaeologist has is "credibility" from their deploma. In the end unless you have photos which can be "photo shopped", video can be "computer generated" a few eye witnesses who can be swayed and a confession from the actor who built the tools that could give a false testimony. The world is littered with these tools and pyramids, you can't forget the pyramids!!! or are they just mountains?
@ericschmuecker5573
@ericschmuecker5573 4 года назад
@@roundeye6519 study up.
@justinmccord1818
@justinmccord1818 3 года назад
A large percentage are indeed geofacts
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
You are babbling now . Just stop !! He has shown a lot of nothing . A few real artifacts , the rest are just rocks!
@Legionario186
@Legionario186 Год назад
I wonder how long did Indians use to spend to make these amazing stone tools? It’s awesome
@MichaelSayer-sf7gu
@MichaelSayer-sf7gu 7 месяцев назад
This was in India?
@kentuckyarrowheads
@kentuckyarrowheads Год назад
What is this thing on my channel
@pamkeener8248
@pamkeener8248 2 года назад
Wish I could add picture
@deboraheidson2600
@deboraheidson2600 9 лет назад
Thank you for the information.
@raccoonresident5760
@raccoonresident5760 3 года назад
William? Have you seen any navigation stones in your travels?
@edgardovargas7618
@edgardovargas7618 6 лет назад
Nice explanations, but how about some artifacts developed by the ancients with such kind of precision and perfection, for example figurines founded in central american made by practically same materials, how do they built them? There where a more advance culture from the other, like your videos👍!!!
@uncledrew3265
@uncledrew3265 5 лет назад
Did one or two men have this talent for making tools like this and that is all they did?
@ThomasSmith-os4zc
@ThomasSmith-os4zc 2 года назад
The top left is a large Lavallios point. Very old.
@pinafrabotta7489
@pinafrabotta7489 Год назад
William I think your cylinder piece .... greenish pestal.... is not of the same time period as your other artifacts ... in fact you have at least 2 different time periods there... showing age of at least a few thousand years apart ... the rougher pecked and knapped artifacts are later ... the cylinder shapped ... I believe could be megalithic ... and most likely found and used by a latter culture ... the circumference is too perfect even after a generations of wear and tear ... the artifact has characteristics of a lost craftsmanship much more complex than the chipped pieces .... the reason behind my belief over your collection of artifacts in this video ...is because of a conclusion I have come up with over a number of years collecting and researching my own enigmatic pieces .... I see you posted this video some time ago ... I would really love to know what you think of my opinion .... hopefully you will see this at some point .... I am posting this comment April 28th 2023 from south western Ontario Canada
@lisabeed6001
@lisabeed6001 Год назад
I truly admire how knowledgeable you are about this! I don’t see that he has answered a lot of questions, so I do hope you can find someone else to ask. But I have hunch you are spot on!! I’m a newbie and am sooo addicted 😉 I have, what I always say, a TON of stones which I have convinced myself of, that they are indeed artifacts, but have been told I’m wrong. I so wish I had someone like you, to look through my milk crates. Im totally ok with being wrong, but still hoping for an expert! 😁
@pinafrabotta7489
@pinafrabotta7489 Год назад
Hi Lisa ... so nice to have a reply ✌❤ I've been in love with archeological artifacts since I was a child ... I remember my first finds like I had uncovered them yesterday ... I've gone on in my life and studied in this area with over 8 years of past secondary education ... but I keep to myself... here in this unassuming area of Canada .... I don't know of any societies or groups ... related to our universities or not ..... that even consider such a pre history here .... so I am alone in my stone adventures lol .... but yes certainly I know a lot about deciphering from a stone and an artifact ... though I'm afraid my hypothesis aren't in alignment to the current paradigm .... I've gathered a lot of examples proving my point but there isn't any body of experts here that would be willing to engage in a conversation about the existence of an advanced civilization in North America that would predate the cataclysmic events of 12 thousand years ago
@pinafrabotta7489
@pinafrabotta7489 Год назад
Hi Lisa ... so nice to have a reply ✌❤ I've been in love with archeological artifacts since I was a child ... I remember my first finds like I had uncovered them yesterday ... I've gone on in my life and studied in this area with over 8 years of past secondary education ... but I keep to myself... here in this unassuming area of Canada .... I don't know of any societies or groups ... related to our universities or not ..... that even consider such a pre history here .... so I am alone in my stone adventures lol .... but yes certainly I know a lot about deciphering from a stone and an artifact ... though I'm afraid my hypothesis aren't in alignment to the current paradigm .... I've gathered a lot of examples proving my point but there isn't any body of experts here that would be willing to engage in a conversation about the existence of an advanced civilization in North America that would predate the cataclysmic events of 12 thousand years ago
@pinafrabotta7489
@pinafrabotta7489 Год назад
Sorry lol there is a line that should read post secondary school ... University and college educated in art history as well as anthropology ...archeology and a bit of geology ✌❤
@lisabeed6001
@lisabeed6001 Год назад
@@pinafrabotta7489 So nice to get a reply from YOU!! And wow wow wow 😮 I’m so impressed! It does make me sad you feel alone with your fascination up there. Come on down! We’ll go artifacting 😊 I had a thing for just ordinary rocks as a kid, starting a “rock club” in 4th grade. I find myself a little embarrassed even thinking about it. We had a big rental house outside Memphis TN. Many little shacks, chicken coops, etc. One for just me and my classmates, bringing a new rock every weekend, to set on the rows of 2x4s. I have no memory of what we talked about 😉, but we’d all go in the house for my mom to make us hot chocolate and buttered toast , lol. Then 40+ years later, a friend here in NE got me addicted to artifacts. She was an artist and had hundreds of arrowheads and points in frames. She lived near an Indian camp, and every year after the fields were plowed in the spring, she continued to find them. I only got to go twice, and only came home with a few tooled stones. I’ve moved away from that area, but I’d love to go again someday.
@dschack100
@dschack100 5 лет назад
I guess technically any rock COULD have been picked up and used by a native American for something. But those of us who actually spend time in the creeks and rivers know that these are naturally occurring rocks and you could literally pick up thousands of these from most creeks.
@jeffvincent4827
@jeffvincent4827 Год назад
if they are naturally occurring then not need to even make stone tools right . already made just sitting there for them to use . true skill is in identifying, something you still have not mastered .. keep at it you'll get there
@dschack100
@dschack100 Год назад
@@jeffvincent4827 What? Sober up and try again pal.
@michealtorres8598
@michealtorres8598 Год назад
Yes and no. ....certain ones have been used here or there. Its all about whether or not it has been worked or not. It also depends on your area. Some areas that are full of sandstone and such have waaaaay less artifacts left. It really depends on the area. Some areas are littered like here in southwest ohio. Littered woth artifacts. North ga and western S.C. and N.C. are areas where its either hit or miss. You have to dig down to find anything. I have been hunting the areas for 20 years....and ive found half the amount i have in the last 5 yrs in ohio. You also have to have some knowledge of Geology as well in order to know what youre looking at.
@michealtorres8598
@michealtorres8598 Год назад
@jeffvincent4827 no one masters anything ever.
@radialwavellite5310
@radialwavellite5310 Год назад
I have a large collection of stone tools and when you hold them in your hand and feel how they were used there is no question that they have been shaped. The same reoccurring marks and style all fit hands or fingers perfectly. Its usually guys with low self esteem that are always saying "its just a rock" when its so obvious they have been altered for a specific purpose. You don't find these shapes formed by nature. Not only that but I have matched several to items on display at the Museums in my state and have even showed side by side photos and they still won't except they are wrong. I think I will call this "airowhead syndrome".They think arrowheads made themselves without any tools and that's all they needed to survive. A person with this mindset is only interested in bragging about arrowheads they find as if they made them. They completely miss the opportunity to learn what Native American life was really like and what they did besides making arrowheads.
@jamesjohn8766
@jamesjohn8766 5 лет назад
Would you sell any of these I am extremely interested?
@ericschmuecker5573
@ericschmuecker5573 4 года назад
I've got a bridge for you. We you able to get a response or prices?
@justinmccord1818
@justinmccord1818 3 года назад
Dude I know where there are thousands of these, go to your local landscape company and check out the river rocks.... These are not artifacts
@ADITADDICTS
@ADITADDICTS 5 лет назад
To the all the critics on this vid, all I have to say is post up! Every one of you talks a lot of crap but EVERY one of you hasn't a single rock or artifact or leaveright video of your collections between you. Put your $ where your mouth is and post up. Otherwise your letting your mouth write checks your ass can't cash. 🖐🎤⬇🚶🚪
@keithlear44
@keithlear44 2 года назад
Are you kidding me
@LostLeftyLimb
@LostLeftyLimb 2 месяца назад
What are you confused about?
@edierosenberg4777
@edierosenberg4777 3 года назад
I would like to thank you, can you please contact me. We live in Northern California. Think Coloma California... I have super interesting information.
@sethflint4299
@sethflint4299 3 года назад
Do you guys find artifacts in northern California? Nice to see a female who rock hunts I'm 24 but Im curious
@davislong9476
@davislong9476 8 лет назад
Nice video William good learning video..........
@2012Beckster
@2012Beckster 6 лет назад
The incivility displayed by one or two individuals here is indicative of ignorance & arrogance. I, for one, appreciate Mr. Shira's effort and explanation. I'm a noob and find his common-sense explication very helpful. Why not just move on if the video is not useful to you? Where does the need to ridicule originate? Were you rejected as a child and again as an adult male? There are videos for that too!
@ericschmuecker5573
@ericschmuecker5573 4 года назад
@A lone Cockroach I agree.
@ericschmuecker5573
@ericschmuecker5573 4 года назад
Get out of your chair and go look outside for once.
@nox7282
@nox7282 Год назад
The problem is that he’s a noob too, Rebecca. He’s not teaching you anything here. He’s presenting his ideas of what he thinks these items could be, not referencing any real archaeological information or methods for identifying authentic tools/distinguishing tools from geofacts. That is misleading, especially for ‘amateur archaeologists’. Are you okay with false information being spread to fellow amateur archaeologists?
@thepoetryblade3047
@thepoetryblade3047 3 года назад
It's like Pavlov's dogs. Your phone went off and I checked my messages.
@luckydawg7180
@luckydawg7180 7 месяцев назад
Another video from bill the Bs artist
@byronc2707
@byronc2707 5 лет назад
The sides could have been left rough on the big one for grip
@donaldwears1997
@donaldwears1997 8 лет назад
you have more access than the average joe -can i go on a hunt with you?
@joshsmith2982
@joshsmith2982 2 года назад
Yeah for a handy
@bty1471
@bty1471 4 года назад
This guy needs to educate himself. Most of these are not artifacts but naturally occurring stones
@TerraDawg2
@TerraDawg2 3 года назад
open your eyes
@bty1471
@bty1471 3 года назад
@@TerraDawg2 I assure you almost all of these are nothing more than rocks
@jaypercival431
@jaypercival431 3 месяца назад
​@@bty1471You'll never convince them. SMDH
@edwardjames1810
@edwardjames1810 4 года назад
The long thin Stone on the bottom in the middle looks like a stone cutting tool for the construction of buildings or monuments or temples good luck
@kevinbarnett5706
@kevinbarnett5706 4 года назад
Noni can show you
@kevinbarnett5706
@kevinbarnett5706 4 года назад
It's so much older than they tell us it's preflud
@kevinbarnett5706
@kevinbarnett5706 4 года назад
20,pop years old
@Jason1975ism
@Jason1975ism 5 лет назад
Where do you find so many geofacts? I think some of your stuff comes from a river or lake or glacial till deposit that is not a cultural site in any way. If you look long enough you'll find rocks in all sorts of convincing shapes but the bottom line is that stone tools are distinct, deliberate, methodically crafted objects. Expedient and unfinished forms exist but even they are diagnostic.
@sultros
@sultros 4 года назад
Many probably do come from rivers and creeks along with arrow heads. They end up there due to erosion. Ancient native's built camps along the rivers and creeks and artiacts get exposed from flood erosion and changing environments. Ever seen those round smooth stones used in landscaping? Those rocks come from ancient gravel washes that get buried over time as rivers and creeks change. Masonry businesses dig them up and sell them for landscaping. In Texas, that stone is used everywhere and you wouldnt believe the things Ive found. Petrified wood logs, primitive stone tools, arrow heads, geodes, topaz, citrine, etc. Unfortunately none of the artifacts can be dated or verified because they arent found in their original location and soil layer. They cant be tied to a specific culture either. All you can do is compare it to whats been documented. What is and isnt a stone tool is definitely debatable and you are correct that some things can be the result of natural erosion. The fact that many of us find so much of this in or as a result of water makes it worse. Stare at rocks long enough and it all looks like something... kind of like cloud watching. How do you prove that something is a carving or not? You cant unless you dig it up and document it with a authority on the subject.
@mikeferguson4492
@mikeferguson4492 2 года назад
I believe he was actually explaining the “distinct, deliberate, methodically crafted “ way in which they were made? I would like anyone who calls these geofacts explain to me how there are countless people all over North America finding finding similar objects? Similar in size, shape and details? Near the end of this video William showed a small rock with a very distinctive shape that he believes could of been used in place of a deer antler for pressure flaking. He mentioned he finds them often. I happened to be holding its twin and I live in Canada. In fact can show you similar examples of every stone he has on display and I have only been collecting for a very short time in a very small area. I feel it is very arrogant of you to make such a statement without ever having any of these tools in your hand. If you had the opportunity to see them up close you would see the detail is there. For someone with experience holding these things it is quite obvious. What truly astounds me is how widely distributed these are and how uniform in size and shape, regardless they are.
@davidhefner5668
@davidhefner5668 5 лет назад
I was out looking for arrow heads and found a strange rock with a circle cut into it. I measured the diameter with dividers and the circle is perfect. I wet the stone and then let it dry. The inside of the circle remained damp as if some other material. The rock is approx. 3" X 2" dark grey and smooth surface as most river rock. It's that darn circle that puzzles me. I made a video. " I found this rock while looking for arrowheads"
@kevinbarnett5706
@kevinbarnett5706 4 года назад
IV made bunch of
@Grunt-pr7od
@Grunt-pr7od 9 месяцев назад
Im Dr Spalding im a rock expert and i hate to inform you that these are gallstones or kidney stones.
@Yeety-yeet
@Yeety-yeet 5 лет назад
My husband found a great deal of rocks that he truly believes are tools and art from Indians. Can you please help us with identifying them
@rodneygreenway982
@rodneygreenway982 4 года назад
@Mark Breland I sent you a message on FB. Hope to hear back from you
@rodneygreenway982
@rodneygreenway982 4 года назад
@Mark Breland I sent it through FB messenger. It had an arrowhead for the profile pic
@rodneygreenway982
@rodneygreenway982 4 года назад
@Mark Breland and says works at powerline construction.
@rodneygreenway982
@rodneygreenway982 4 года назад
@Mark Breland I think I found it. Just sent you a message
@laurentbanzi3960
@laurentbanzi3960 6 лет назад
acheniusenge
@RondelayAOK
@RondelayAOK Год назад
Some real stuff. Some wishful thinking.
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