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How to Identify Unmarked Plastic 

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This video has been a LONG time coming, but we finally got round to showing you guys a load of different ways in which you can work out what a piece of plastic even if it doesn't have a marking on. Unfortunately, it seems as though plastic manufacturing companies are still getting away with not marking their plastic, which makes it very difficult to work out what it is and whether or not you can recycle it.
In the video we cover the different between elastomers, thermosetting plastics and thermoplastics. We also show you what the Resin ID codes (recycling symbols) look like on plastic when they are there. Our favourite way to separate plastic is using float separation. You can use a number of commonly-available liquids (water, oil, sat water, alcohol etc) and see if plastic sinks or floats. Depending on what they do will give you an idea of the density of the plastic and therefore, what type it is.
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@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
A big thanks goes out to MyHeritage for sponsoring this video. You can buy a DNA kit here bit.ly/BrothersMake and use the code ‘Brothers’ for free shipping.
@mofolk8896
@mofolk8896 11 месяцев назад
🇨🇦My Heritage is great! I got soooo many European matches when I used their test ❤ (as opposed to say, five, from Another company)
@nunyabitnezz2802
@nunyabitnezz2802 10 месяцев назад
In the United States the bottles have codes but the caps don’t. You noticed with the Cadbury lid, a US based company.
@nunyabitnezz2802
@nunyabitnezz2802 10 месяцев назад
Zippo makes an electronic insert now. Those guts never fail to make flame!
@orange-micro-fiber9740
@orange-micro-fiber9740 11 месяцев назад
Pet is used a bunch in 3d printing. Cnc kitchen did a video on turning pet bottles into filament which can then be extruded. It's neat!
@moth.monster
@moth.monster 11 месяцев назад
PET itself isn't commonly used for purpose-made 3D print filament, because PETG - where the G stands for "glycol modified", as the ethylene glycol used in production is replaced with CHDM (cyclohexanedimethanol) instead. This reduces the melting point, and prevents crystallization, which makes for a material that prints easier as it warps much less. PET pull-struders are still quite a fun niche though, as the properties of plain ol' PET are still good enough for many prints, and the fact that you can get PET for basically free out of the trash helps make it worth it..
@TheDiskdaddy
@TheDiskdaddy 11 месяцев назад
Printing all the bits for the Recreator3D as I type this :)
@georgiepepper6317
@georgiepepper6317 5 месяцев назад
@@TheDiskdaddyb
@TheStigma
@TheStigma 11 месяцев назад
Tips for float test: a very tiny amount of dish detergent (less than a drop, assuming your plastic is relatively clean already) will help break the surface tension of the water in the float test and create less false identifications when dealing with plastic that are very close to the water density. If you get real geeky, you can actually separate out by density much more specifically then this by using other mixtures than pure water. If you add some common table salt for example, the water will start to weigh more. If you accurately measure the water density then you can determine exactly the density of the material, which can often uniquely identify what it is, or at least narrow down the options to just a few. (I see this is sort of covered later in the video) Another useful thing to know is that all plastics that float in this test can not be easily painted (or glued). They either need a special plastic primer (which honestly is not guaranteed to work well either), or ideally they should be flame-treated on the surface. You can look up how to do that in another video. Not all the plastics that sink are guaranteed to accept paint well, but most of the common ones are workable, at least with a light scuff sanding and/or primer.
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong 11 месяцев назад
That's a great idea. This means that if the plastic is going to be washed, then we might as well do the float test at the same time.
@ericeinsmann5559
@ericeinsmann5559 11 месяцев назад
Very informative! While I think the Plas-tell device is cost prohibitive for most people, the various water/oil/alcohol tests are much more useful! I have a garage full of kitty litter containers where the container itself is clearly hdpe, but the nice red lid is not labeled. If I test one and it too is hdpe, great! The next step is for me to build my plastic shredder (and for it to actually work😮)
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
I’m glad it was helpful! Yes that would be a great resource. Good luck with the shredder build!
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong 11 месяцев назад
@@BrothersMakeand Eric, I agree that these tests are so useful. Thank you so much, brothers!
@AverageJillM
@AverageJillM 5 месяцев назад
Yes, it is a shame that the Plas-tell is so expensive. It is about 10x what I was hoping to spend. Now I remember why I wanted to make recycling plastic into filament into a business instead of a hobby, but my family is only willing to support a hobby, because of space. Plas-tell plus grinder plus filament extruder equals a lot of money.
@Sobou
@Sobou 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video! This is the kind of informative, easy-to-understand, instructional video I've been looking for that seems to be completely missing from the internet. The float/sink liquid tests are bloody brilliant! Thank you Brothers! Now I need some chips...
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Super kind of you man, thanks so much! Haha, we'll make ya some 🍟
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth 4 месяца назад
Informative. Very useful. The alcohol and water mixture was interesting because you were reducing the density of the mixture. A hydrometer would allow you to determine the density of the liquid.
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth 4 месяца назад
Not to be confused with a hygrometer, which measures humidity.
@dh2032
@dh2032 Месяц назад
only problem some might running an legal distillery all empty bottle is not going help case to much? 🙂
@meiloslyther
@meiloslyther 11 месяцев назад
Oh my god, thank you! I've been collecting milk jugs at home, but the caps aren't marked. Just by the feel I'm pretty sure they're HDPE, but now I can make sure. They're red, so they'll certainly add some interest to whatever I decide to make out of the boring white/translucent jugs.
@aleksandrakim4925
@aleksandrakim4925 9 месяцев назад
Hey! Good to see you doing this with such enthusiasm, it's riveting and contagious! Also, haven't seen a project of yours made of plastic other than hdpe (or am I missing something)? All the best to you two!
@DevinJuularValentine
@DevinJuularValentine 11 месяцев назад
Please could you go through your washing process? Some new coke lids have the most obnoxious white print on them and it takes me ages to remove it! Plus it seems no matter how much I wash white plastic lids, I always miss something and get caramelized whatever embedded into my sheets
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
We made a video all about how we clean and process our plastic a few years ago. We don’t bother getting the print off! It usually vaporises in the injection moulder. The white lids are a pain indeed. We stick to shampoo bottles as our main source of white 🤙🏽
@s.s.6661
@s.s.6661 11 месяцев назад
Really appreciate the content you guys make! I'm going to start up my own upcycling channel where I'll work with recycling plastic bags at home (among other things) and once I do I'm def linking a bunch of your guys's vids for further watching!
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Thanks so much, can't wait to see your content, be sure to link us!
@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith
@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith 11 месяцев назад
For those plastics that can't be recycled, or safely recycled, there is always upcycling. Like, using a jug to make a scoop or holster. Oops, I put can when I meant can't. Sorry. Edited to correct.
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely! Reuse and repurpose are both > Recycle any time.
@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith
@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith 11 месяцев назад
@@BrothersMake Whoops, I made a typo, that you brought my attention to, indirectly. Corrected it.
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth 4 месяца назад
Indeed. Reduce, reuse, recycle, in that order of priority. Better to reuse, whenever possible, than to recycle.
@pat_link_
@pat_link_ 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant video thanks for going into so much detail
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching Pat!
@Mg-kd7hp
@Mg-kd7hp 11 месяцев назад
​@@BrothersMake😢😢gh😢h😮hh³³😮h😮😮hy
@user-he4ti2ps5p
@user-he4ti2ps5p 7 месяцев назад
Your lessons provide a lot of useful information. Thank you. Tell me, is it possible to mix numbers 2, 4 and 5 with each other?
@beccalee199
@beccalee199 11 месяцев назад
Really nice work, you two put so much effort into the things you do. 👏 Just a question. When you did the water test, some of the plastics were sinking, is it the same in the oceans, or are more plastic types floating because the seawater has a higher density? 🤔
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Thanks so much! This one did take a long time to put together ☺️ As with the salt test a little later on in the video you’ll find that polystyrene (♻️6) and a number of ‘Other’ (♻️7) plastics with similar densities will float, but PET, PVC and a whole load of others will most definitely sink. The Great Pacific Garbage Patch is certainly a huge issue in the ocean, and efforts to clean it up are progressing. But possibly a bigger and much more difficult to solve issue is all the plastic at the bottom!
@rayanelsolh6852
@rayanelsolh6852 11 месяцев назад
How do you deal with recycling plastics like HDPE, when the companies do not publish the additives (could be toxic) and dyes used when creating them? Thanks :D Great videos!
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
There’s not really a good way around that unfortunately. We use filtration to protect from any fumes. Check out our safety video for all the info 🤙🏽
@rayanelsolh6852
@rayanelsolh6852 11 месяцев назад
Thank you :D, I am trying to create a precious plastics workspace at my school. Your videos are a great motivation!
@Ylime00120
@Ylime00120 11 месяцев назад
This is SO HELPFUL!!! THANK YOU!
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
You're more than welcome!
@Kebabayeb
@Kebabayeb 2 месяца назад
Loving Jonny’s t-shirt
@tenchi20229
@tenchi20229 11 месяцев назад
Did you forget the link to the Plastell?
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Added! Thanks for the heads up
@GavinConwayWoodworkBBQ
@GavinConwayWoodworkBBQ 6 месяцев назад
Can you mix #2 #4 #5 together to make pen blanks?
@Eidolon1andOnly
@Eidolon1andOnly 11 месяцев назад
The "thoroughness poke" is crucial.
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Wouldn’t be a fair test without it!
@leandrogaldeano7731
@leandrogaldeano7731 11 месяцев назад
I really liked this video! It almost felt like your first videos when you were more shy in front of the camera. This informative format is great. Well done bros!
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Ah thanks so much man, that's great to hear - especially from a long-term sub! We're trying to move our presentation style more this way, slightly more casual and chatty, and not having anything scripted. Bit of a learning curve, but it's more fun!
@KinneKitsune
@KinneKitsune 5 месяцев назад
Wow, so all and only the plastics safe to home recycle float!
@creativusme
@creativusme 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! I really needed it!
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Awesome!
@lordsp
@lordsp 11 месяцев назад
Signed for Patreon. Freaking amazing what you guys do. AMAZING - On the PET, haven't you considered recycling it into 3D Printer Filament?
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Ah that's amazing, thanks so much man - great to have you! Yeah it's definitely something we want to look into, it's just about getting it into something consistent enough to print with - but one on the list!
@lordsp
@lordsp 11 месяцев назад
@@BrothersMake here where I live in Argentina PET is “recycled” but since no one separates trash this is super inefficient and you can constantly see bottles everywhere. My idea is to be able collect PET on scale (creating my own “deposit system” where I pay people a small fee for clean, whole bottles) and turn it into PET filament I can then sell back to cover fees for pet collection and donate the filament to rural schools so that they have filament for 3D printing projects.
@jhsevs
@jhsevs 10 месяцев назад
11:30 what soap/detergent do you use in your washing station?
@jKing-bh7xw
@jKing-bh7xw Месяц назад
What a great video. Thank you.
@IvanWizard-Karl
@IvanWizard-Karl 11 месяцев назад
fantastic video lads, super helpful info
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! So glad it’s helpful :)
@danielworley5756
@danielworley5756 9 месяцев назад
So I'm trying to figure out what type of plastic kids toys are made of. I see them in dumpsters a lot and can get my hands on quite a bit to recycle if I can. Problem is they rarely have resin codes, and I've heard they're pvc and that would make it difficult to recycle.
@DaveGDesigns
@DaveGDesigns 11 месяцев назад
Well done boys very informative and shows yet another area of your work that takes time and knowledge as well as equipment. Keep up the good work and when will we see a recycled plastic hinge? #hof
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Dave! This one took a lot of research 😅 hinges coming soon! 😉 #hof #iykyk
@FilmRepair
@FilmRepair 9 месяцев назад
The parkway drive shirt !!!
@GameAddictYT
@GameAddictYT 11 месяцев назад
Hello. Amazing video. I would like to know if there's any way to separate HDPE and PP from each other without using Vegetable oil. If we use vegetable oil it will be very hard to clean that and supply. Any suggestions please.
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
You can use the alcohol mixture to achieve this as well if you don’t dilute with water
@MerlinCross13
@MerlinCross13 3 месяца назад
I wonder if this might be a more regional/nation based thing as I think you guys said you were based in UK? I live in the states and just checked lot of my plastic bottles and containers and found most of them were Cat 1 PET which means... not sure what to do with it other than into the recycle bin and hope.
@noaccount2494
@noaccount2494 11 месяцев назад
Still hoping one day you'll find out if there's a way to safely color transparent/white plastic sinc I've been hoarding so many bottle caps lol. This was super helpful video
@joepotter9834
@joepotter9834 8 месяцев назад
Have you ever thought of using (spent) shotgun shell plastic
@ahmedgharib6357
@ahmedgharib6357 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the great video. Have you ever invited any one to your workshop to learn ? I’m doing my researches now to start and I would love to get some hands on training before diving deep. Would appreciate if I can come to your workshop for couple of days and get some advise from the pros 💪🏻
@volkhen0
@volkhen0 11 месяцев назад
To remove problem with water surface tension you should add a bit of detergent to water which will decrease surface tension. Some of them are really potent and there are one which do not create bubbles.
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Great shout - thank you!
@SpaghettiEnterprises
@SpaghettiEnterprises 4 месяца назад
Is it really that important to separate HDPE from LDPE when making things at home? Do they not melt together well?
@trentineer
@trentineer 11 месяцев назад
Another informative video guys! Loving to see our silver fern on display too! 🇳🇿
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Thanks so much, and of course! 🇳🇿
@jillrector7176
@jillrector7176 3 месяца назад
In the US our clear amber pharmaceutical bottles that are #5 and there’s no recycling here for them… can you recycle these bottles??
@jcvargason535
@jcvargason535 5 месяцев назад
So can I mix 2, 4, and 5 plastics then?
@Gr8Success
@Gr8Success 8 месяцев назад
not sure if anyone will read this or respond but i made a test in vegetable oil to separate known CPP from HDPE from some bottle lids .. but both sunk ... according to what is said didn't CPP should have floated and HDPE sink ???? i know CPP is not compatible with HDPE and yet i couldn't separate them in the vegetable oil test ...
@shanereed3767
@shanereed3767 10 месяцев назад
I'm sorry to ask this question if you have already answered it but are the regular plastic bags you get from the store reusable like that
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 8 месяцев назад
The disposable plastic shopping bags I see in the US are usually HDPE (they have the 2 code) so if you can deal with their "fluffy" nature they can be recycled the same as any other HDPE.
@jamalkhir
@jamalkhir 11 месяцев назад
where can i buy the machine that can identify the type of plastic. please update. am keen to buy the DNA kit link cannot be used
@selaazib
@selaazib 4 месяца назад
The spiky haired one is such a mood
@andymanaus1077
@andymanaus1077 11 месяцев назад
Great video. Thanks.
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Andy!
@brycehampton7649
@brycehampton7649 11 месяцев назад
How about 02 ♻️ milk 🥛 bottles and jugs?
@db7059
@db7059 11 месяцев назад
That should be fine
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
They’re the same plastic, but different grades. So they will melt differently
@racheljames9187
@racheljames9187 11 месяцев назад
This is awesome... thank you :)
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
You’re so welcome!
@Atelophobos
@Atelophobos 11 месяцев назад
Not sure if this will be noticed but I was wondering if you guys could find a way to recycle paper receipts? There's tons of receipts out there. But I've tried to look up a way to reuse them but I'm not finding anything.
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
We haven't either I'm afraid, but certainly something we're keen to find out!
@noexplanation4343
@noexplanation4343 11 месяцев назад
Bruh why you gotta sound like I got a script in front of my face SO NOW I gotta read it like this AND NO it is not a misconception of how I’m acutaully capable of making it hAPpen… The thing is… 😂 smh 🤦‍♂️ CREATIVITY!!!! Why have you done me sooooo… i NEEDeD YoU
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong 11 месяцев назад
Are there any safe products that could help us to weld/glue the products together? I'm under the impression that acetone and/or nail polish remover should work for 1 or more kinds. Also, how do we clean the plastic, when it becomes sticky from other products, like hair care products, touching them?
@heavyweather
@heavyweather 11 месяцев назад
Acetone works for PLA and ABS.
@carlosspears564
@carlosspears564 11 месяцев назад
Is denatured alcohol the same? Can denatured or isopropyl alcohol be used? Might not be the smartest questions, but if you don't know, ya just don't know. Thanks.
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Yes I think any alcohol would have a similarly low density
@carlosspears564
@carlosspears564 11 месяцев назад
@@BrothersMake Thanks
@tesnimabdulhakim8726
@tesnimabdulhakim8726 11 месяцев назад
Hi how thank you so much the video i live in Ethiopia I am now start up business by recycling in October 2 I have pick deck for investors and you’re advised
@tonta182
@tonta182 11 месяцев назад
But how do you tell apart HDPE 100, 300 , 500 and 1000? thats a good question =D
@TheTalonts
@TheTalonts 11 месяцев назад
Wouldn't it be nice if the world got together and required marking the 1-7?
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
It would be extreeemely nice!
@designspot9483
@designspot9483 11 месяцев назад
Can you mix HDPE and PP in recycling?
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Please don’t do this! Mixed recycled items will always eventually go to landfill.
@user-iq2uw5ow4j
@user-iq2uw5ow4j 11 месяцев назад
Is it possible to mix “2”, “4” and “5” with each other when casting?
@bikeandbark1223
@bikeandbark1223 8 месяцев назад
I would like to know this too
@markjust86
@markjust86 8 месяцев назад
1:00 did you get thermoset and thermoplastic the wrong way round on that image???
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 8 месяцев назад
Nope
@markjust86
@markjust86 8 месяцев назад
Lol I watched the bit about scratching it 3 times before I commented and I still got it wrong. Just watched again and now it says what you said! Not sure what's up with my brain today!!!
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 8 месяцев назад
😅 it’s all good!
@dadoVRC
@dadoVRC 11 месяцев назад
Well done! 🤟🤟
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@dadoVRC
@dadoVRC 11 месяцев назад
@@BrothersMake (I'm Davide from Precious Plastic Romagna, this RU-vid profile is old and I'm too lazy to make a dedicated precious plastic profile, just to let you know who I am 😉).
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Haha, gotcha! 🤙🏽
@cerberus4730
@cerberus4730 11 месяцев назад
Nice shirt From Nz
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Thanks - nice country! 🇳🇿
@ChandrashekarCN
@ChandrashekarCN 11 месяцев назад
💖💖💖💖
@nunyabitnezz2802
@nunyabitnezz2802 4 месяца назад
Get the new electronic insert for your zippo.
@ronyerke9250
@ronyerke9250 6 месяцев назад
I don't know how much you paid for that Plastell, but today they are advertised for $2500 U.S. Dollars. Yikes!
@robadoba8497
@robadoba8497 11 месяцев назад
Where does ABS land in this lineup? I would like to melt down an old broken drip coffee maker. Not sure what it's made of.
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
In ♻️7 ‘Other’ unfortunately!
@user-he4ti2ps5p
@user-he4ti2ps5p 8 месяцев назад
I watch your videos with interest. Please tell me, are the numbers in the triangle 2 and 02 the same thing?
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 8 месяцев назад
Yep they are 👍🏽
@user-he4ti2ps5p
@user-he4ti2ps5p 8 месяцев назад
Thanks @@BrothersMake
@noexplanation4343
@noexplanation4343 11 месяцев назад
OMG im So ExCiTeD …😂😂😂😂😂 what a punch line… if you still didn’t get it, I meant the video
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
I still don't get it I'm afraid, but your comment is appreciated nonetheless.
@crazyt1483
@crazyt1483 5 месяцев назад
Just wanted to say to anyone designing a system just make 0 other to allow for future updates and numbering
@MaltandMake
@MaltandMake 11 месяцев назад
I'm not really making chips
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
Fun twist, I did actually go on to make chips. But I used the air frier. Maybe I'm playing fast and loose with the word 'fun' there.
@nl3kevin
@nl3kevin 11 месяцев назад
I have a question can you make a video about how to recycle pet bottles
@darthgbc363
@darthgbc363 11 месяцев назад
0:51 You called this a recycling symbol. It is not. It resembles a recycling symbol. Plastic companies ran a marketing campaign to trick (lie) consumers into thinking plastic is safe for the environment. Now I wonder if you guys are part of this marketing campaign. Are you getting paid by the plastic industry?
@BrothersMake
@BrothersMake 11 месяцев назад
We called it that as because that's an easy way to explain what it looks like. But yes, you caught us, we're secretly making millions from the plastic industry, but choose to spend our time collecting and washing bottle tops to cover it up. Busted.
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