How to improve your motorcycling skills: Riding with the Met Police on a Bikesafe course

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How to improve your motorcycling skills: Riding with the Met Police on a Bikesafe course - It's hard to argue against additional training, in fact I would argue you can never have too much training and in potentially risky pursuits like motorcycling it strikes me as a good idea to continue your training way after you pass your bike riding test. In this video I get a taste of what advanced rider training is like thanks to the Metropolitan Police and the Bikesafe team. Stay tuned to find out what goes on at one of these courses.
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@Glories999 5 лет назад

“Ride exactly how you would normally” 12 points & a grand fine later, did I do alright Sonny? Manage to keep up

@howardmckeown7187 3 года назад

you might be surprised,i rode hell for leather n he said it was brisk, lol

@user-cg7qe1xj2p 3 года назад

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@pw3591 2 года назад

Great video. My Dad was a Police motorcycle instructor, and always hated having him follow me, but when I tried to follow him, I'd struggle to keep up, such smooth flowing lines through the bends, and could anticipate gaps developing in the traffic etc. Was not about reaching high speeds, but maintaining a good "average" and making "progress" as they call it :-)

@RCFlyBoy314 6 лет назад

I wish America had programs like this. 45 pounds! That is very reasonable. Good to sit down and watch some of your videos again, cheers from the States!

@ericlunger8090 5 лет назад

RCFlyBoy314 North Carolina has a course offered by the state highway patrol. And it’s free. Great program

@paulv22 3 года назад

There are probably MSF courses in your area. The cops in my area all seem to ride two abreast, which doesn't give me a good impression.

@RCFlyBoy314 3 года назад

@@paulv22 oh yes, I did .one years ago. Wanted to do the advanced rider courses but stopped riding after a few years. They do two abreast here in Arizona all the time. It looks nice, but totally agree from a safety aspect.

@capecrusader6932 3 года назад

@@paulv22 We do all our training two abreast. Motorcycle trained police officers are probably in the top 1% of all street riders for safety and skill in both slow and fast maneuvers. We do not recommend to the public to ride two abreast just like the Blue Angels do not recommend pilots fly wing tip to wing tip. Go to the class and ask questions and maybe you will learn something.

@paulv22 3 года назад

@@capecrusader6932 First, I'm sure motorcycle cops in the US are well trained and if they offered courses, I'm sure I could learn something. To my knowledge, they don't offer classes in my area. However, assuming you're in the US, do you always ride two abreast and if so, why? What advantage does it have? I live in a part of the country with narrow, winding roads that often have potholes. In some cases, it's not easy for two cars to pass each other yet I've seen motorcycle cops riding two abreast. I've had to go into the ditch a bit in my car to give them space. Sure, sometimes they need to ride two abreast for certain duties but doing it all the time doesn't seem to make sense. If you can tell me a big advantage, please do.

@colingoldthorpe5918 6 лет назад

Congrats TMF reaching 60 thousand subscribers!!!! Well deserved great channel with great content and unbiased opinions, congratulations!!!!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thank you Colin - appreciated!

@The33JAYJAY 6 лет назад

Nice one TMF I liked that. I think any info from those guys is valuable, they are so well trained and the best around in my opinion. Everyone should do one.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Agreed!

@speedbird01 6 лет назад

Great content TMF, Bikesafe is only the beginning, my advice is go onto to invest in further advance training either ROSPA or IAM, if you value your life in general and especially as a motorcyclist its a no brainer, at least to me.

@billzidis2656 Год назад

My friend,your content is so good. I spend hours front of my TV watching! Such a unique content! Absolutely lovely channel! Thank you for your hard work!

@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад

Wow, thank you Bill - glad you like it - stay tuned, loads more to come!

@k4rlogser165 6 лет назад

Whilst doing the bike checks & he said full beam, you went erm.....I was sat waiting for those lights to come on that we don’t mention anymore. Now that would have been hilarious. Great vid & I would encourage anyone to do an advanced course no matter how young or old, it could save your life & it can make your biking much more pleasurable. Opened up a whole new circle of friends for me & the trips we do are mega. Cheers TMF, Karl 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Lights we don't mention anymore?

@k4rlogser165 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer strobe lights 🤐

@paulelverstone8677 6 лет назад

I found it very worthwhile. I did the Bikesafe back in 2005, just as a refresher to the IAM I did back in 1999 and I love the 'system'. I know it's not for everyone but if you (I) are of a disposition where assurances from a person in authority can say 'you do this well, you can do this better' and you sit up and listen, then it is money well spent. Great review. Brought it all back...

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks Fell Rider - glad to be a refresher!

@1066Sussex 6 лет назад

Standing in a petrol forecourt eating a sarny not quite what you had in mind for lunch TMF lol

@norriemasson4080 6 лет назад

Bladders I thought the same TMF slumming it 😂

@bikersquest 6 лет назад

Lol when I did the course we went to some diner place it was luxurious in comparison

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Crikey you know me better than I thought.....

@AdamHougham 6 лет назад

We got to sit down inside the petrol station when I did mine and we had a Subway! Seriously good day's training.

@NgocVu-ee5et 6 лет назад

Bikers Quest i

@neilsbaker9790 2 года назад

Thank you for a thoroughly enjoyable ride. I’m about to get back into riding after 12 years out of the saddle and this was just a lot of fun to watch along with comments. Thanks for taking the time to engage and give me inspiration to get back into riding :)

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Happy to help!

@mrwobbly185 6 лет назад

Thanks. Been meaning to do bike safe for ages. Your vid has shoved me into action. Booked it just now. Thanks again.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Enjoy!

@gkbike7002 3 года назад

For me, Jay Leno said he'd never ride if he felt rushed. Great advice. I can be a hot head riding or overly influenced by adrenaline. If I've taken a step out of character out on my Ride, I reset myself on the next ride by been very sensible.. Great video again BTW.

@rogerreading3708 6 лет назад

Great video as usual. I did take the Bike Safe course before I unleashed myself on the unsuspecting public roads. It was what every rider should do, new or experienced. To my shame I’ve not been on any further improvement courses, but watching this has made me think again. Love your vids, so impartial & informative.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks for the kind comments - much appreciated! All the best - TMF

@splodge5714 6 лет назад

Informative video. I've been riding 45 years so feel it a bit late for training but I'm always open for advise. Re the braking I was told long ago its cheaper to replace your brake pads than your gearbox! My own bit of advise, slow down be patient and don't overtake on junctions.Glad you enjoyed your day.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Cheers Splodge.....

@martinS-vn3wy 6 лет назад

Re; the braking, its all about applying the system used by the Police etc, Information, Position, Speed, Gear and Accelerate IPSGA, all stages are a separate process although some overlapping will be inevitable. Great book to read is the "Motorcycle Roadcraft The Police Riders Handbook" explains the system and more.

@stephenmcqueen4029 6 лет назад

Did my ROSPA at 52 mate, you never too old.

@davidbesant 6 лет назад

martin 1299S IPSGA? I'm afraid as soon as you start using acronyms you will lose 90% of the audience. The massive apparent over analysis smacks of the instructor trying to appear clever and usually causes the eyes of the student to glaze over and little or nothing or achieved. Some ex-service people lap it up though.

@rickp9946 6 лет назад

Whilst watching that bit (about braking) I assumed it was because someone behind might not realise what you are doing so showing a brake light might help.

@ianallso2541 5 лет назад

In New Zealand we have a similar scheme, Ride Forever, 4 levels of training depending on your experience and where you are riding, (Urban Survival, Bronze, Silver, and Gold). I have undertaken bronze and silver during the last 16 months. Both courses led by a qualified motorcycle instructor and using in helmet comms that enabled realtime feedback. Well worth the time and money.

@BobThePirateEUW 6 лет назад

so i've been planning to take one of these courses but never really got around to because of laziness, but thanks a lot for making this video man, it's really motivating to have seen this i think after the big heat im definitively going to do one of these courses!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Great value and can’t do you any harm can it...

@darenmorley4598 6 лет назад

Weird seeing you riding round my manor, you could have popped in for a cup of tea :) As mentioned to you before I thoroughly enjoyed the Bike Safe course. We went to Frankie and Benny's for lunch (cut backs). The goodie bag used to be good as well. Surprising to see how little the officers use their brakes when you follow them.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yes very impressive to watch their smooooth technique.....

@josecunha3852 6 лет назад

Very useful ! I would like to have something similar here in Portugal. Thanks for the video

@JBlank. 5 лет назад

The guy doing the bike safe speech at the start is the same guy that did my day last year at the Warren

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 лет назад

Yes, lovely fella....

@ShakyShaky-ju7id 2 года назад

Good stuff, all should do this, at some point, and more so with IAM, (most grateful as volunteers.)

@kramnam4716 Год назад

The Mr Whiston flower! in the subtitles today! 👏best ever!

@AlexDjalo 4 года назад

Doing mine tomorrow! Only been on the road for about 8 months hopefully my riding style is good

@killygonz 6 лет назад

Always enjoy your videos. This one has some laugh out loud moments for me. Thanks for sharing.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Really? Was my riding that bad?? Thanks for watching - TMF

@killygonz 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer nothing wrong with your riding I can assure you. 👍🏻

@Near2Future 4 года назад

Going to sit my A2 passed my theory 2 days ago. I love riding, once i do pass my A2 i'm going for advanced training or any futher training i can! :)

@richardsherwin3259 6 лет назад

Great vid TMF. I was a member of West Yorkshire Advanced Motorcycle Group back in 2003 but circumstances stopped my training and I never took my advanced test. Well, I’ve now decided that this year I’ll get it passed and I have now booked in with a ex-police motorcyclist who now trains people for their advanced test and further if required. I have two half days booked next month. Fingers crossed, as I’d like to do some volunteer work for the blood Bikers in future.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Nice one Richard!

@richardsherwin3259 5 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer just an update on this TMF. Just passed my RoSPA and got a Silver grade 🥈 now got the IAM to do (as it’s already paid for) see if I can add the ‘polish’ and get a F1RST (you never know) All the best Richard. Ps that’d make a good TMF series ‘passing your advanced test series’ I know you’d find it a piece of cake with all the riding you do and the flying where you need the same sort of system/procedures.

@cliff8675 6 лет назад

I come from the school of train at 10 and then live at 5 - 7. So I'm looking at a California Superbike School next Spring. Train on a track at 100 and then ride the roads at 50 or so, knowing the bike will stick in the corners if you have tires you trust. Also want a low speed handling course as well, turning the bike with the steering at full lock, u-turns in two parking spaces sort of riding. From there other classes and I find them and keep practicing. Between those two extremes I should find out what traction feels like and what no traction feels like. Loved the outro, just proves we all turn into little kids around police, fire, and emergency vehicles.

@russellgoodban7068 5 лет назад

Low speed stuff you can practice on your own in a car park. Clutch and back brake are your friends. Stay off the front brake. Ride in all weathers too so you know how your bike handles and feels. Riding in actual wet/raining conditions isn't actually much different from dry, if you have modern half decent tires, you can still lean it over a fair amount and not worry. It's when the road is kind of wet/slippery it gets difficult. Check out a channel called roadcraft Nottingham for great tips.

@steveanderson461 5 лет назад

your videos are calming and very aventuras . Cheers from Canada.

@demzunoplayer 6 лет назад

Yep, "brake>, change gear>,lean/steer>, roll on>". From the 'cornering guru', Keith Code, Twist of the Wrist II'.

@barbieandbellaadventuresby9134 6 лет назад

I felt a bit nervous just watching that, took me straight back to my training for my full licence. One good thing from my training was my instructor was an instructor for the police so I always felt I was getting the best advice and guidance. Didn’t stop me failing my part one first time round 😄 much to his disappointment, I think me and another chap that day were his first fails all summer! The conditions that day were particularly poor, that’s my excuse anyway😆

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

I failed my mod 1 first time too (effin' cone!)......

@shawnmoore4292 6 лет назад

Would be good if they did that here in Australia. What a way to interact with public and build relationships and learn a little as well. Cool stuff.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yes, everyone wins eh!

@judgedredd49 5 лет назад

Late on at about 18.45/50 following too close to the vehicle in front. He said that is was a 40o mpoh limit but the safe stopping and therefore the safe following on distance at that speed would be some 120 ft and as the road surface was wet one should double that. to 240 ft. He on the other hand would be about 40 and no more than 60 ft behind.

@alal.t14033 6 лет назад

i did the bike safe corse with leicestershire police quite a few years ago now

@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse 6 лет назад

A very informative video its good to see how to improve riding techniques.

@mikedignum1868 6 лет назад

There a good course i try and do it every few years or whenever i change bike. I'm in the lucky position of not having to pay for the course as my company pays for it. Mine are usually held at the Ace Cafe as i work in London .

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Nice one!

@poddnik2260 6 лет назад

Great video, very interesting. Looked like a very interesting day out. Keep up the great videos 👍🏼

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks - will do!

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

Lets see a "track day training" course next please. They are also well worth doing on top of a road one. Great for bike control and such. Was it my imagination or did the police rider's bike have one of the two tail/brake bulbs not working? ;)

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Well spotted sir! He did indeed have a light out as we noted later in the day, he duly fixed it using a Metropolitan Police special technique...(he gave it a whack!)...

@camerongeater5404 6 лет назад

This is actually really cool! In the US, all we have (That I know of) is the MSF safety courses, and a few manufacturers host their own riding courses, but they're all on closed courses, which are pretty much parking lots. No training on the road or in any sort of traffic.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

How odd - maybe there's a gap in the market for some enterprising soul?

@kgsz 6 лет назад

This is not really related to MSF. In the UK to ride on the public road you need to have at least CBT, basic training, comparable to MSF (as far as I see from the quick googling), not ending in any exam (just rough assessment). This is really very, very basic. To ride bigger bikes formal, two-part exam must be passed -- and that confirms the biker is competent and safe on the road. And here comes the Bikesafe: this is the bridge between formal training (that resulted in getting the licence) and further (advanced) training, step 1.5 before IAM and/or RoSPA or others, easy and cheap way to get the top tips from the top (and incredibly friendly) bikers. Cheers!

@normanwigley2318 6 лет назад

informative and enjoyable. look forward to your feedback.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF

@neiloakey5183 6 лет назад

Great video... I'm off to find a bike-safe session...

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Nice one....

@MaxTw1st 6 лет назад

I did the bike safe course with Surry Police and it was so worth it! The first thing they said to us was that they don't care about speed. within 5 mins of leaving the army base we were doing 100+mph down to Alton XD

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Really? 100+ sounds a little unlikely but whatever.....as long as you got something good out of it!

@stevenharris4432 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer well even if they were doing 100 miles per hour them there cops are specialists and can do it safe .dont for get

@stevenharris4432 6 лет назад

😁

@MaxTw1st 6 лет назад

Actually it really doesn't when you think about it. Remember, you did yours in the wet. I did mine in the dry in mid July. The officer I was with was also on a fully Marked Ducati super sport. To add more context, our group was a closed group and no members of the public were allowed to come. Only Military.

@stevenharris4432 6 лет назад

The Obligatory Mad Max oh right so military and the police have the right to ride like you stole it and put us mere mortals in danger with out you lot we would be lost

@luc1ferblack Год назад

I always fancied doing this but when cornering i don't go towards the middle to see further down the road because i have seen way too many muppets in cars racing round the corner in the middle of the road so i stay middle of my lane or left and slow down. What puts me off doing the course is i don't want to piss off the instructor by not going wide. Last year a biker was killed at the rally i was attending by a car taking the corner too far over. He was only dropping something off for a mate at the rally. The course looks really good though

@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад

I think you’re doing it the right way!

@LeeKirkman88 3 года назад

I spotting an early mistake no life saver when you overtook the parked cars which could prevent you going into anything trying to overtake you.

@CitybeatPaul 6 лет назад

You should consider doing your advanced test with IAM Roadsmart Im surprised your not an Advanced rider !!

@geoffozevans4500 6 лет назад

Interesting vlog, well worth doing the Advances Motorcycle Test, brings your insurance down as well 👍😎

@darrenelbrow5144 6 лет назад

Geoff Oz Evans my insurance was no different with the IAM pass. But I still did the course as it was a challenge

@geoffozevans4500 6 лет назад

Darren Elbrow Hi buddy, when I insured my Harley one of the questions was whether I'd done an Advanced bike course ( which I hadn't ),maybe only certain Insurer's do it,I came back to the UK in 2005 when I was 48 after living in Oz for 25 yrs & couldn't believe how the road conditions & users had changed, big reality check. 👍😎

@kgsz 6 лет назад

Yes, only certain insurers take additional qualifications into consideration, and at the different rate.

@richlfc3604 6 лет назад

I was due to do my bike safe course tomorrow but the police cancelled it due to the possibility of snow, so I gotta book it again for in a couple of weeks

@JemSpeedShop1 6 лет назад

Great Vlog dude, huge fans here at JEM SPEDD SHOP :D

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF

@richardbrown8271 2 года назад

Doing this course 28th of may .....£68 for the course now

@ajaxpal4607 6 лет назад

I took the course because of this video and they seized my bike. I have to pay a fine and impound fees

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Oh dear - what did they seize it for?

@NHSeidler 6 лет назад

Excellent video..................will check if the Police in Denmark do the same kind of training :-)

@edwardchilders8353 6 лет назад

Would have liked to hear all that classroom stuff.

@Nellyboy1971 6 лет назад

You should do a IAM course 👍🏻

@cloggsy1971 6 лет назад

Just booked mine; £20 in North Yorkshire 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Nice.....

@shiftyblake3038 6 лет назад

I don’t use comms when training somebody as it teaches them to use mirrors better. Would like to have heard your feedback. Was riding up the dirty centre of the road on the agenda? ... hope you enjoyed

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Sure did!

@shiftyblake3038 6 лет назад

👍 video .... keep up the good work!

@Motortriker 6 лет назад

Notice you didn't wear a hi-viz vest; Bikesafe used to give you one for the course which you could keep.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yes you do get one in the goodie bag they give you at the end!

@stuartrich4574 6 лет назад

I did the training last year and was a little disappointed to be honest, which is a shame because I had such high expectations. I didn't know the area so had to follow the sat-nav on my ride. The fella quickly said at end it was a safe ride that I would benefit for doing the Advanced before jumping up and rushing out of the room. If I had known the feedback would have consisted of two sentences I wouldn't have bothered. It wasn't sour grapes, I am a new rider and I know that I have loads to learn, I just left the day without picking anything up, sorry Bikesafe

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Hmmm... I know what you mean...

@regprescott9894 6 лет назад

Again for some strange reason I can't quite get past the advert, would it be possible for you to make it a bit longer please....?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

I'm not sure I understand what you mean Reg?

@regprescott9894 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer the advert starring Rachael Riley that is on before your video starts....

@crazybiker6415 6 лет назад

Did mr policeman say anything about your dark visor?? Great vids as always 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Shhh!

@logangallagher7050 2 года назад

Those coppers are a good bunch

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

The best!

@jamesgoodwin2450 6 лет назад

Very interesting,did pc plod know he was riding with motorbike royalty? And can we have a review on that coppers bike hahaha great stuff

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

...get outta here (blush)...

@allyp6646 5 лет назад

hi, Im looking for a new camera, can you tell which one you used for this vid please.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 лет назад

GoPro hero 4

@shaunbarclay1309 6 лет назад

England has plenty of areas but the only one in Scotland is Carlisle :(

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

That's a shame (especially as that too is in England)....

@stephenmcqueen4029 6 лет назад

If you do the ROSPA training you will be more confident in the wet and no so far behind

@RebelRides 6 лет назад

I keep making excuses as to why I've not done an advanced course yet. I really should get around to at least the freebie half day course. It would be choosing which bike to do it on though. I ride the ER6 in a slightly different way to the Indian Chief. How did you choose which of your bikes you did it on?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

The GS seemed the obvious choice - that's the bike I ride most miles on....

@samdeighton4521 6 лет назад

The Shoei Neotec is the only helmet to be worn by all police forces across the UK. However its safety rating is only rated as a full face, not an open face. The new Neotec 2 however is rated both up and down.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Good to know.....

@baileywestby 6 лет назад

do you think you could do this on a quad bike .

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Dunno - doubt it but you could ask...

@hartley383 6 лет назад

Nice one TMF. I did a 2 day course with Warwickshire police about 12 years ago, I thought it was brilliant, i learned so much and it really increased my enjoyment of riding.I wasnt very experienced at the time and was very nervous and having that bit longer to get to know the officer helped me relax and feel more comfortable discussing issues and ways to improve my riding. The following weekend i was riding with some freinds who have done a lot of advanced training (Paramedics). They could not believe how much my riding had improved. Id recommend it to anyone. The copper said to me, "ill tell you the best performance mod you can make to your bike, tweak the nut sitting on the saddle".

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Sound advice ! Thanks for watching - TMF

@colinvincent6599 6 лет назад

Don't know about you but being observed by instructors makes me more prone to little mistakes as you can over think it. I sometimes ride with a friend who is a Rospa instructor and when he's behind me I can feel his glare like lasers into the back of my head. Even though he is not officially observing me at all.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yes I know how that feels! Don't mention the war!

@ljgarrison6910 5 лет назад

That'a definitely you have to work on, a confidence thing :) I'm sure you're fine!

@jamesmcpeake2593 4 года назад

Suggest you get some professional training

@f109ged 6 лет назад

It's a pity you didn't show any footage of the feedback you received. You could've explained what you learned. I did an assessed ride with my local IAM group. The feedback I received was enough to make me decide to immediately sign up for advanced training, which proved to be both interesting and educational.

@bobbo9549 Год назад

Agreed, it would have been good to hear the feed back/debrief. I did the same myself with the IAM and can’t recommend it enough. Any rider who thinks they can’t learn more by attending advanced riding be it IAM or ROSPA needs to go on one of their taster rides. You learn at your own pace and there is a great camaraderie within the club and opportunities for some good ride outs.

@robtno1 6 лет назад

Did my BikeSafe at The Warren it was free and they paid for lunch at Frankie and benny’s .lol true story Bike safe It’s a prequel to IAM advanced training which is well worth doing. So to all those who say advanced training spoils your riding bollocks ,I still ride progressively and I bet I see much more a lot quicker than you none believers because of it. Smoother than smooth since Passing IAMon a S1000rr my examiner was the guy who wrote the book “How to be better rider” and was a chief of police. Anyway I was shy of a first but I did t care about the piece of paper it’s the knowledge that I can be progressive and safe. My pals who’ve been riding twenty odd years can’t believe I’ve only be on bikes 4 years. Seasoned bikers newbies please please please do some advanced training because it could save your life. Statics prove advanced bikers have fewer life threatening accidents ! The mind set of they didn’t see me should be reversed “ How about us as bikers seeing them and anticipating what another vehicle might do “ ! It’s a much better way of thinking and riding , not 100% but higher odds of not being caught out !

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks for watching and for the feedback- good stuff....

@ljgarrison6910 5 лет назад

I couldn't agree more, my father used to teach advanced riding to the police, and he made exceptional progress. The bike was never unsettled, safer than most and yet he was bloody quick too. I hope after 20years I can be as drama free

@petersean777 6 лет назад

We didn't hear how you got on ?????

@f109ged 6 лет назад

Regarding the SMIDSY, do a search for "A Fighter Pilot’s Guide to Surviving on the Roads... ", which gives a good explanation.

@jimwoollard8329 6 лет назад

I did the BikeSafe course last year with the MET in north London. I thought it was a good course and some insurance companies will accept that for discounts on insurance.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Good to know!

@mattnicholas9842 6 лет назад

Couldn't agree more, I have been twice in Kent over the years, Useful tips and assessment, all day 35 quid (including lunch). Learning from the best riders in the business. Well worth doing..

@stevenharris4432 6 лет назад

Matt Nicholas why are they super human get changed in a phone box do they

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Wow - you got lunch too! Nice....

@mattnicholas9842 6 лет назад

No but they ride all day every day... and go on dozens of roadcraft courses with loads of refreshers. Like anything else you do it loads and train a lot you get better at it.... After years of riding i've still got plenty to learn.

@mattnicholas9842 6 лет назад

Yeah... yummy pizza at Frankie and Bennys..

@Dankeller69 6 лет назад

I would of been paranoid with a cop behind me riding

@pauls3696 5 лет назад

Yes that's what I was thinking lol

@chrisbolton2500 6 лет назад

In a previous life. I spent 17 years on the Greater Manchester Police Motorcycle Wing. And was a member of the Special Escort Group. It always amazes me how it sticks with you. To the degree my non police trained buddies, (every colour and variety) can spot the techniques from a mile back. It works fellas.......I'd urge anyone to give it a go. You will learn something of value.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Nice one Chris...

@chrisbolton2500 6 лет назад

The 'foot work' when you come to a stop........gives you away every time.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

What me or the trained pros?

@chrisbolton2500 6 лет назад

Me matey.......I can't get away with anything!

@chrisbolton2500 6 лет назад

Bye the bye.....what was the result of your assessment?

@Back2TheBike 6 лет назад

well done for putting yourself through this. Ive done the same after coming back to biking after nearly 40yrs. The learning diary of my observed rides with IAM has been youtubed for any who want to know more. £99 for 15 months of training has to be the bargain of the year.

@baileywestby 6 лет назад

do you think you could do this on a quad bike

@loooooopy 5 лет назад

@@baileywestby doubt it, quad bikes use a car license and you don't need a helmet, closer to a car

@twogotikitouring6940 6 лет назад

Glad you enjoyed the Bike Safe Day TMF. During my time in the Met I helped run courses out of the Ace Cafe. They are a great way to let like minded bikers have an insight into furthering their training without committing first. Still excellent value for money and glad to see that TFL are still supporting the guys and girls who provide the courses. The question often arises about the lack of Comms use but it is another great way to make sure that you are fully aware of what is happening behind you as against just mindlessly waiting for another instruction in your ears and staring blindly ahead. We often had people returning to do another course as it is such good fun and value for money. And contrary to popular belief we don’t bite and are actually normal bikers 😉

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

I echo all of that - thanks for watching and for commenting....all the best - TMF

@kgsz 6 лет назад

The problem I had with visual instructions coming from behind was that at the moment I should focus most on what's happening in the front of me (when approaching junction), I had to glance back few times to see the signal, and get dazzled for the moment. On the contrary riding with the instructions straight to my ear lets me concentrate fully on the best observations in the specific moments. And I must agree that all the PCs I met were excellent, very approachable and incredibly skilled.

@markgr1nyer 6 лет назад

I did a similar scheme in Staffordshire about 6 years ago called rideby5 ie ride by IPSGA. Since then I've done my IAM and achieved a F1rst and I'm now a blood biker for shropshire. Its amazing how smooth the police riders are, and I never get bored of watching them throw the RTs around as if they were 125s

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks for the comment and I completely agree! All the best - TMF

@robertbates1079 6 лет назад

Enjoyed that.. you seemed ever so calm with a copper up your chuff.😎

@TheOriginalCoda 3 года назад

Robert I nearly spat my coffee lol

@Grind_Over_Matter 6 лет назад

Great video as always TMF. Did my bikesafe in Surrey also last year and what struck me was their passion for educating and desire to expand the courses offered. Of course, budget issues to deal with but I really hope they can as it was a great day with some great folk.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks for the comment and I completely agree! All the best - TMF

@djbgatekeeper 6 лет назад

Looks like a good day and anything that makes us bikers safer has got to be worth it... thanks for the upload 👌

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

100% agree....

@tgrey2555 6 лет назад

Look forward to hearing you’re feedback, if you share it

@phils2180 4 года назад

I did one of these courses around 9 years ago up here in South Yorkshire on one of the wettest Saturdays I've ever ridden on but still really enjoyed it. Would recommend it to anyone no matter how long you've been riding. The one aspect of the course I personally got most out of was observation/hazard recognition, they take it to a new level.

@AMPJ08 6 лет назад

Funny was when you said that you would not talk too much because you needed to concentrate to follow up with them. Basically means every video you do your concentration is not 100% on the road, my question is if this don‘t increase your chances of an accident as per what you learnt?

@nevillegreg1 6 лет назад

Riding like one normally would????? I hardly see motorcyclist riding under the speed limit, normally. The feedback from the coppers in that case would be clear.

@richardcollins586 6 лет назад

Just passed by Mod2! All done, ready for the big bike! 😊

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Well done and congratulations!

@richardcollins586 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer thanks, two minors, like Mod 1, though it’s taken a year to get this far after my CBT, getting a 125, 2000 miles on that. Did the test on a MT07, nice bike, tried the Kawasaki Z650 in the showroom this afternoon. Will take that for a test ride soon. 😊

@27jollytall 6 лет назад

Did you notice how easy it was to see you policeman all the time. If I do ride with anyone else, I always want them to wear a full high viz jacket so I can check their position with a quick mirror check, rather than have to search for the rascals! Does it make you think about your own visibility?

@TheTypeRTheory 6 лет назад

Hi-Viz is definitely naff, but it makes a huge difference spotting people at a glance. Especially in town, or on dull grey days. (Every day then!)

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Well they gave us a hi viz tabard in the goody bag, so maybe I should start wearing it (although apparently the pink ones are a better colour for conspicuity)...

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Hi-Viz may be naff, but being dead is even naffer. The other day, stuck in murderous Zürich rush-hour traffic, and just about to pull out for a spot of lane splitting, I saw the tiniest flash of colour in my outside mirror - one of those evil moped riders that like to take you from behind. Had he not been decked out in hi-viz I would not have had the slightest chance of seeing him, with potentially disastrous consequences for my health and well-being.......

@TheTypeRTheory 6 лет назад

Christopher Lamb Well said mate.

@deanroberts187 2 года назад

Just about to start my motorcycle riding career at 45. Thanks for sharing the video. Definitely something I will look to do when I go through the CBT and Mod1/2 tests.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes definately worth doing....and good luck with your test(s)....

@ritfloyd 5 лет назад

Thanks for this video. I'll be doing my bikesafe course in a couple of weeks this video was useful. It would have been nice to know roughly what kind of feedback you received 🙂

@nomad_lad 6 лет назад

It looks challenging/awkward having to constantly check mirrors for signals. I know we monitor our mirrors regardless but knowing that we need to navigate based on signals from behind would take some of my attention away from my riding.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yes that is true I agree...

@marksteven6116 6 лет назад

no its not safe , you are not a police person , people do not pull out on them and they don't cut them up or if they do they nick them , It makes a massive difference in how other road users act if you are riding a big yellow motorbike with police on it A big one is don't come over to far in your lane or you will get the white van or boy racer trying to push pass you and run you off the road , Be safe remember you are not a free mason Also if you ride like the police even if you are not speeding a cop in a car can nick you as he does not like the way you are riding

@MaxVliet Год назад

I wish they would make one day of motorcycle riding compulsory to get a car drivers license to make drivers more aware of motorcyclists.

@CODK-nb6mw 6 лет назад

If you live or work in London or work for tfl it's free! Contact you're local council, why wouldn't you do it! Lucky to spend a day with PC Suni before doing the NC500 around Scotland i would say having done my IAM and achieving a F1rst he gave me some skills and tips that kept me safe above the IAM. You do put yourself under pressure for a day on Bikesafe but these guy's are skilled at giving feedback in a nice way! They do 30000 miles a year in a busy city, so the advice is life saving.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

100% agreed

@donnhughes7139 5 лет назад

As an American watching this video I can honestly say that I will now never drive a car in England much less a motorcycle. I jumped out of my seat a half dozen times watching this video when you crossed over intersections, and all those cars on the wrong side of the road, very narrow roads....yeeks , otherwise a great video !!

@eldeeb6433 4 года назад

You would be fine I'm sure, you get used to it quickly

@adamgoodsell4170 6 лет назад

Hi, I’ve done the BikeSafe course twice now. I can’t recommend it enough. Even if you’ve been riding for years it’s worth doing. There was a guy who had been riding for 30+ years and averaging. 20,000 miles a year on my course, and was he very good. He still felt it was worthwhile for him. On my first course I was lucky enough to go out one to one with the Police officer for over 3 hrs and nearly 150 miles. I learnt loads. Do it, you won’t regret it. Regards. Adam

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks for the comment and I completely agree! All the best - TMF

@earlebacciochi9796 6 лет назад

Good one Flyer, to all biker's never stop learning and always anticipate the unexpected.👍

@ProfTrout 6 лет назад

So these coppers ride around SW London all day and they don't even know where to find a decent café? TMF deserves better than soggy sandwiches from the BP garage!!!

@suetaylor5186 5 лет назад

I think they were Marks and Spencer sandwiches. .....

@bikersquest 6 лет назад

I did this too a few years back, they were promoting it a lot in London due to high accident rates I presume. I have a summary vid up

@jhstony 6 лет назад

Done this course with my local Norfolk constabulary last year and yes can confirm brilliant day out, I paid a little extra and did the one on one course rider assessment and well worth the fee. As you said, you can never have too much training.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Great stuff Snarkman - thanks for watching....