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How to Improve Your RHYTHM and Time-Feel on Saxophone 

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Jay Metcalf demonstrates some different ways to use a metronome to improve your rhythm and time-feel which will help you sound a lot better no matter what music you play.
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Комментарии : 109   
@MrTjay3
@MrTjay3 4 года назад
Jay thank you so much for contacting me and the encouragement needed to make me a good saxophone player. As I approached the tender age of 70 sometimes I wonder what took so long. Whether it was military life, family life what ever it was or is I'm happy to have two musical instructors to push me forward. Thanks again and keep the data coming. Thomas
@esfahan1961
@esfahan1961 6 лет назад
Another great tutorial which ties up with what my wife (a piano teacher and soprano singer) has been repeating to me for months! Thank you Jay.
@bettersax
@bettersax 6 лет назад
Thank you Thierry listen to your wife...
@mikebotton3200
@mikebotton3200 4 года назад
I've mostly practiced scales in 1/8th notes with metronome set at 4 beats to the bar. Setting it on 2 & 4 really forces you to get into the groove of landing dead on that beat every 4th note. Instantly becomes more musical. Great stuff - love it.
@Invisible_Hermit
@Invisible_Hermit Год назад
Thanks for this great lesson, Jay! As a drummer from long ago, and now a 59 year old beginning sax player (with my BetterSax alto saxophone; so gorgeous!), I am pleasantly surprised about the emphasis on rhythm. It is indeed the heartbeat of the music! Right now I'm working on your free Pentatonic PSBE course, and plan on taking the full Pentatonic Foundation course once I'm done with the intro one. Thanks for being there and providing such great resources for all of us aspiring saxophone players. I was really noticing how smoothly you were playing in this video; some serious inspiration!
@bettersax
@bettersax Год назад
Michael great to hear this from you! Congrats on the new instrument!
@geoffreyhowells5396
@geoffreyhowells5396 4 года назад
Was never taught to use a metronome... Bought an app for the smartphone and began following some beginner-level long-tones and exercises in an old band book. The rhythm started standing out-in 3D and has more of a physical feel to it. The journey has just gotten more real and I am really enjoying these FREE sessions and excited to participate in the many online courses you have available. :)
@brentpattison1010
@brentpattison1010 3 года назад
I recently learned the idea of following the metronome off the beat from pianist Adam Maness. It completely helps me lay back in swing tunes. Thanks for reinforcing this idea, Jay!
@thecontinentalist8816
@thecontinentalist8816 6 лет назад
The Tonalenergy app has totally transformed my practice and playing these past few months. Before, playing with a metronome was always a bit meh...Silly me. First thing I do now, once I've put my horn together is fire up the app and clip in my ear buds. Thanks Jay !
@bettersax
@bettersax 6 лет назад
Yeah, it's on for most of the time in my practice sessions...
@Sldeeffects
@Sldeeffects 4 года назад
Agreed!
@keshawncampbell7893
@keshawncampbell7893 6 лет назад
Thanks Jay, this video has helped me a lot, I've only used the metronome once since I've been practicing but, now you've shown me how easy it can get to play faster melodies and improvisations using the metronome. Thanks a lot.
@bettersax
@bettersax 6 лет назад
Good to hear Keshawn.
@Alfsax75
@Alfsax75 Год назад
Thanks Jay. Great tip to improve my practice. I have just start following your channel. I’m from Chile. I speak Spanish, so my English can have lot of mistakes
@HonestSaxSound-unEdited-
@HonestSaxSound-unEdited- 5 лет назад
This tutorial is gold for any musician. Many thanks for your work Jay!
@stevehenry9826
@stevehenry9826 Год назад
Thank you Jay for that rhythm lesson on practicing with a metronme! Very helpful!
@robstevens9590
@robstevens9590 6 лет назад
Thank you! I am not a beginner, but rhythm is still an area that needs lots of improvement.
@bettersax
@bettersax 6 лет назад
Hey Rob, I'm not a beginner either, but I'm working on improving my rhythm everyday... It can always be better.
@joelpierson2628
@joelpierson2628 6 лет назад
This is very good advice. I was watching a Rick Beato video on the things he wished he had known when he started. One was using a metronome from the start. His guest said the ability to play to a click tract is necessary for anyone aspiring to be a studio musician. It is part of the studio environment and a must have skill. Eventually playing a memorized tune like Jay demonstrated in the video with only the metronome while simultaneously visualizing the chord progression so not to be depending on the rhythm section to keep our place is the goal. He makes it look easy!
@bettersax
@bettersax 6 лет назад
Thanks Joel. Rick Beato has lots of great content.
@petertrigiani1088
@petertrigiani1088 6 лет назад
Never thought about putting the beat on 3. Thanks for the interesting advise!
@de9803
@de9803 4 года назад
Jay you’re Outstanding I’ve learned so much from watching all the videos
@martinpahnke9958
@martinpahnke9958 Год назад
Thanks a lot. This is my week spot. I HAVE to improve it.
@clairegoguen622
@clairegoguen622 Год назад
Very good rhythmic ideas, Jay! I will try playing with less metronome clicks by measure and fitting in more notes in time. And yes, moving the beats on 2 and for to swing even more. My ex-spouse was a professional saxophonist but was never thouhgh those great tips!
@Robyn19fnq
@Robyn19fnq 5 лет назад
As usual ... thanks for the invaluable instruction and so clearly explained.
@aliaydnaltunkan-motomottom5237
@aliaydnaltunkan-motomottom5237 3 года назад
I am a new player for sax. This video is great for me. thanks :)
@stephaniehecquefeuille6586
@stephaniehecquefeuille6586 4 года назад
Training with metronom... so painfull to me ! However, you convinced me there was no other way. Thanks for that and for the tricks you gave.
@richandrews7
@richandrews7 3 года назад
Jay, Thanks for being there.
@annalouise5727
@annalouise5727 3 года назад
Thank you for all your videos. They help me to progress on saxophone and in english!😉 Sheers from France
@psarcorinne892
@psarcorinne892 Год назад
Merci pour tous ces bons conseils !!!
@derek_williams
@derek_williams 3 года назад
By coincidence I just tried something new today for timing. I recorded myself playing with the metronome using iPad Voice Recorder. I just played one head and listened back, hearing the timing mistakes and the articulation. Was a very quick way to improve. Afterwards I played along with a Scott Hamilton track I know by heart and I really felt a difference - like I'd been rushing before and now with just 20 minutes metronome and listening I was quite different.
@jafotorres9588
@jafotorres9588 3 года назад
Thank you Jay, your videos are very helpful
@vasilemoldovan2146
@vasilemoldovan2146 3 года назад
Thank you very much Jay!
@tonyalcock2187
@tonyalcock2187 4 года назад
Hello Jay. Living down the road from you in France, one can’t but help notice how the public just love clapping along on beats 1 & 3 when listening to live music in 4/4. A lot of my students have initial problems with playing the notes ‘dans l’air’; although I’ve been playing and teaching Sax for many years now, I’ve never before thought of referring so specifically to the beats 2 & 4, when playing along to the clicks the metronome, (Uh . . . Dang)! From now on, I’ll certainly be encouraging my students to internalise the force of beats 2 & 4, when working with a metronome. Fantastic!
@bettersax
@bettersax 4 года назад
Yes this is a cultural thing. In America we benefit from the tremendous influence of the Black American musical tradition which has its roots in West African music hence clapping on 2 and 4 where appropriate is nearly universal.
@berndwachwandler3068
@berndwachwandler3068 5 лет назад
Hello Jay, Thanks so much for exceptional help in my search fpor improvement, your playing example in the "playing faster course" just blew me away.
@I_M_Nonno
@I_M_Nonno 4 года назад
After 50 years of playing sax, I decided to face the demon and started playing drums. This has really helped me with tempo and rhythm. My instructor insisted on using a metronome and I've begun using one when playing sax too. One thing I do is program the metronome to be silent for 2 or 3 measures and see if I can still stay in sync. One thing I've noticed on drums is when I am exactly in sync, the metronome beat seems to go away or can't be heard.
@wildestnothing927
@wildestnothing927 5 месяцев назад
similar experience here - my sax teacher in my teens actually insisted on me playing with a metronome cause I was severely rhythmically challenged and while it helped a bit it didn't do enough for me to develop an intuitive sense of rythm cause simultaneous foot tapping is beyond me (my brain won't let me do it as soon as 1/8 or shorter notes are involved - like I will automatically tap on the off beat once I start playing ). Years later I picked up the electric guitar... and all of the sudden dealing with strumming patterns that require me to do what this lesson suggests, head nodding and counting /humming along with the rythm made things click that 7 years of alto sax lessons never did. I can feel tempo now and hear rhythm in a way that I never did before, so the metronome is no longer distracting but something I can return to if I slip up anywhere cause the count never stops. Playing an instrument that allowed me to have a metronome in my head via headphones while playing was an absolute game changer.
@fabiopasqualini4899
@fabiopasqualini4899 4 года назад
thanks for your advice they are very useful and thanks for this beautiful course that you have made available to us.
@leowright8016
@leowright8016 6 лет назад
Thank you Jay for sharing this one, For someone like myself learning on backing track and recording 🎶🎶🎶🎷👍🏾
@bettersax
@bettersax 6 лет назад
Thanks Leo!
@richardwright9698
@richardwright9698 5 лет назад
Another excellent training video. I hope you do a mini course on rhythm and timing, especially on variations 2 and 3 with the metronome
@bettersax
@bettersax 5 лет назад
Good idea thanks.
@danielbonilla3175
@danielbonilla3175 4 года назад
I’ve already finished your PSBE course and it’s amazing, hope you have more similar course
@raulnacianceno180
@raulnacianceno180 2 года назад
Thank you very much for this video Jay is being very useful for me.
@raseshgandhi6702
@raseshgandhi6702 3 года назад
Very true very fantastic information sir
@Dionpr1
@Dionpr1 2 года назад
Thanks so much Jay for you wise advice. Not only this video but all the others I've been able to see on RU-vid. Really great and so very generous. I would like to ask you a question on another sax matter - is that possible?
@georgemonroe9683
@georgemonroe9683 5 лет назад
Keeping rhythm or lack there of is hurting my ability to play songs I am not familiar with and need to rely on the note durations etc on the sheet music. Thanks for the tips.
@jazzforJamie
@jazzforJamie 5 лет назад
Hi Jay! I also had problems with timing. One sunny day I realise bad timing not so nice to hear. I start to just play long notes on my horns, some notes not wright but in good time, so after that I improvise all the time, work good if i say it myself. Metronome is perfect also, just as you do in this lessen, great tips! Take care//Johnny D Bergh
@lippie71
@lippie71 4 года назад
yes! thank you. among lots of other things I can't do on my saxophone, this is the most obvious one. So of I go!
@wildcat5625
@wildcat5625 4 года назад
Hi Jay, I sincerely appreciate that you continue to provide us with these valuable sax lessons. I wish that you would show me how to improvise using the pentatonic notes on a popular pop song. I like to hear how it sounds like. Thank you very much. Danny Park
@victorrusin7602
@victorrusin7602 2 года назад
Greetings and thanks.
@marselmusic
@marselmusic 5 лет назад
rhythm is the hallmark of identity imo.. you can play notes, but the dynamics, sound, and 'time feel' and other things like articulation is how a sound can be developed, and recognized, distinct sound
@bettersax
@bettersax 5 лет назад
truth...
@MarqueeMarkVI
@MarqueeMarkVI 5 лет назад
Well done...not enough sax videos talking about playing on the beat and syncing with the rhythm section. Thanks.
@ethiopianssaxophonisttube8670
@ethiopianssaxophonisttube8670 3 года назад
Thank you Jay for sharing.I appreciate that👍🏽
@РифхатТуктаров
@РифхатТуктаров 2 года назад
Hello Jay, if I understood you right I can play any song along with metronome.
@mboia
@mboia 5 лет назад
Great tip as always! Thanks!
@jwilliams986
@jwilliams986 4 года назад
Great video Jay! I gotta get my metronome out and dust it off!
@Festus716
@Festus716 6 лет назад
Great tutorial.
@ThisFoooBobo
@ThisFoooBobo 5 лет назад
Yo man, this is one of the best saxophone channels I’ve ever came across! Keep it up with the videos please👍
@radhadiaz4488
@radhadiaz4488 4 года назад
That is very interesting inf.. helpfull!!!... Thank you so much.
@joeblankenship377
@joeblankenship377 5 лет назад
RU-vid is a pretty helpful tool for learning songs at slower tempos. You can click that little gear icon and play the video/song at 3/4, half, or 1/4 the speed.
@JackClarinet
@JackClarinet 4 года назад
Thank you for the interesting tips.
@laptopm1113
@laptopm1113 6 лет назад
thanx a lot, i even forgot i had a metronome
@BibleBeltBlues
@BibleBeltBlues 5 лет назад
Love these videos! Guess I'll have to get a sax. Should I get an alto or tenor sax? hmmmmm I play Gospel Blues music........so maybe a tenor sax?......... any advice is welcome..........Thanks.
@Arthur5000
@Arthur5000 5 лет назад
That song came to my head yesterday I played Anthropology in high school
@bltpkstz
@bltpkstz 4 года назад
I have a tendency to play with a swing feel when training arpeggios with the metronome set at beats 2 and 4. I guess it's fine, but I'll start to train them with even feeling as well.
@jazzforJamie
@jazzforJamie 5 лет назад
Hi BS! Great tips you got here, at last I realise doin so in my playing! Another thing, large issue it is for me and for all jazzmusichens! Should we play solos, copy them, be a bunch of small C Parkers? When I play trumpet just copy Chet Bakers solos? I dont copy solos how cool they are, just doing what you say on this clip, hold pace and groowe and be myself. Keep tellin great tipz!// Y Pal Johnny
@MANIMALIZED
@MANIMALIZED 2 года назад
Jay your content is great and I'm improving my saxophoning consistently thanks to you. I would like to ask you how do you create a decent drum kit sound instead than the boring metronome drums set with the app Tonal Energy? I'm wondering about the sound you show at minute 5:00 It would be awesome to have feedback from you. Best regards
@bettersax
@bettersax 2 года назад
Thanks. Preferences. metronome. options. sound
@MANIMALIZED
@MANIMALIZED 2 года назад
@@bettersax Thank you very much Jay I''ve checked but do not find the way to make a very pleasant drum beat to the ears and the presets sound pretty mechanic and not dynamic at all. Probably it's also me not really knowing my way around the programming.
@precisionhoops365
@precisionhoops365 5 лет назад
Helpful video I couldn't put my finger on it but something was off when I attempted to play bop tunes from Charlie Parker omni book I was totally counting incorrect ly
@liseernie
@liseernie 6 лет назад
thank you!
@KTF1959
@KTF1959 6 лет назад
Hey hello Lise. From one Sharkey to another.
@marselmusic
@marselmusic 5 лет назад
@@KTF1959 cryin' rn
@stevensonmore1202
@stevensonmore1202 3 года назад
Hey Jay, You listed that you recorded with the zoom h5. How do you put your pre-recorded back up track in the recordings to play along with your solo? Thanks!
@eduardofleischer7833
@eduardofleischer7833 6 лет назад
Hi Jay, very good lesson. My metronome and I are still in the process to geting friends :-) but it´s geting better all the time, better... I noticed you have a Klangbogen attached to your sax, is this a good improvement in sound ?, because I´m not able to test it in my country, I need decision help, please tell me what you think or what your exprience is with this devise. Tanks in advance. Greeting from Uruguay !!!
@bettersax
@bettersax 6 лет назад
Thanks. Yes I've been testing out the Klangbogens recently. I'll be doing a video on them soon. It's the sort of thing that is suited to professional and very advanced players in my opinion. You need to have a very well developed sound before it will make any difference for you.
@eduardofleischer7833
@eduardofleischer7833 6 лет назад
OK, thanks a lot. I will wait to see your video.
@jamesbarratt593
@jamesbarratt593 4 года назад
So Jay when I get my Yamaha yas 280 in a couple days time, and after not touching the reed tip, what or where do Ingo from there. Ro I audition for a funky house venue and hope I pick it up quick, or accept I am at level zero and get some beginner tunes to play. Probably learn the keys 🎹 might be good first thing to do. Hmmmmmm
@anthonymiu489
@anthonymiu489 4 года назад
Definitely regret not practicing with a metronome in the past.
@kaoticsquirrel_0983
@kaoticsquirrel_0983 5 лет назад
Soundbrenner is what ive been using i think its good
@francisburns1545
@francisburns1545 6 лет назад
excellent video - Thanks!
@bettersax
@bettersax 6 лет назад
Thanks!
@drfiberglass
@drfiberglass Год назад
Another way is if you are reading music, tap your foot in time in quarter notes...
@MangroveLord
@MangroveLord 4 года назад
I can never keep track of the beat, my sax overpowers the puny noise from my phone, when I'm doing rhythm practice or on piano I have no problem keeping track because I mouth the time, but on sax I can't tapping my foot doesn't feel right either, any other types of keeping time I could use?
@RoyalMail40
@RoyalMail40 4 года назад
Use headphones or ear buds. Also the thoughts in the mind are the same whether you are mouthing the time or just thinking it (hard). Just keep working on it.
@pace_of_mind
@pace_of_mind 5 лет назад
Which melody do you play at 7:46?
@seronokchanel7268
@seronokchanel7268 3 года назад
Best
@LQbros725
@LQbros725 Год назад
wow😮
@anandanil8158
@anandanil8158 3 года назад
Iv played the drums for 8 years and when i moved to the sax for some reason counting just wasnt the same
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
Thank you, God i have that elusive thing known as "very good natural timing." Watch this: YES, WE STILL USE A METRONOME. lol. ALL of us do. Don't care if you're Bernard Purdie (Steely Dan, See "Home at last"). HE still does after probably 60+ years playing drums. Helps to be a drummer, already. I let my Roland V-drum.brain box tend to count 16ths (1 and uh 2 e and uh...) in Japanese man voice (lol), but only the ones i need. Not every one. That would make it too messy.
@karandouglas8649
@karandouglas8649 2 года назад
like playing off the beat?
@viktoriyarakhimova9607
@viktoriyarakhimova9607 2 года назад
👍🏻
@captiandarwin
@captiandarwin 2 года назад
The song itself is the Metrodome to me
@isaiahd9947
@isaiahd9947 4 года назад
Shoot I've been practicing for hours a day without a metronome
@transformeralv
@transformeralv 4 года назад
Usually other instrument can give you the sense of time/rhythm
@dcp8nts
@dcp8nts 4 года назад
Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3
@dcp8nts
@dcp8nts 4 года назад
Never allow your friends to clap on 1 and 3.
@samuelmj4real336
@samuelmj4real336 2 года назад
Lagging beats
@ew4096
@ew4096 6 лет назад
Sorry, all sounded the same to me. You totally lost me.
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