How To Install A Shower Pan | Church Flip | Episode 9

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In today's video I'm showing you how to install a shower pan so you never have to worry about water pooling or leakage. There are a couple very important steps you must take to ensure the pan functions properly. Cheers! Be sure to leave your questions and comments below. For important links CLICK SHOW MORE ⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇
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@plumbbuild6517 2 года назад

I just tour out a bathroom today that someone put cement down on OSB board 20 years ago and the only part or the bathroom the floor was rotten was where the cement was I’m not sure why but I came across the same situation about 8 years ago and every since then I put felt under any type of cement or I use a bonding agent that’s moisture resistant. It’s just a tip that I do because of what I’ve seen. Thanks for the video and I always enjoy watching them.

@RezaDigitalNouri Год назад

I love this guy because he shows working with basic tools that almost everyone can do, not like othe diys that says diy tben uses cnc machine.

@JasonPullara 2 года назад

Jeff grunting ASMR video when?

@darwinbodero7872 2 года назад

😂

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Cheers Jason!

@bignamek 2 года назад

Grunting ASMR that ends with him saying "cheers!"

@usercid640 2 года назад

That's every video

@toms7947 2 года назад

That's odd...

@thastev0 2 года назад

Thanks for the video dad! You have helped us so much!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Great to hear! Cheers!

@heatherroydiy Год назад

My favorite teacher. 😊

@dilkhan6448 2 года назад

What a great video! Definitely needed this help for my bathroom! Cheers Jeff!

@kcronin7211 2 года назад

Thanks!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Cheers my friend!

@jarjar0653 2 года назад

How can one person know all this stuff? Amazing! Thanks for sharing 👍🏼❤️

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

raised 4 kids at 19 so I worked a lot of long days to pay those bills.

@neilp6208 Год назад

Box stores don't carry Claymore mines, either. Get those at the pro shop along with the superior caulking

@darwinbodero7872 2 года назад

14:46 as an American I can probably get my hands on a claymore mine.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

LOL

@simonlamoureux6726 10 месяцев назад

Sooo I've watched your video a day late and I can tell you this was very helpful. I used sika self leveling and had no luck. Was it the way I laid it down? The mix was just a bit thicker than water I used the amount of water required.... My question to you is can I leave the self leveling there and pour the sand mix over it or should I remove it? Keep the good videos coming and Thank you

@WhiskeyTango89 4 месяца назад

I've seen some videos that show roofing paper on the subfloor before adding the concrete mix. Is this necessary>

@gary24752 11 месяцев назад

Wouldn't it be a good idea to instal Kirdi waterproofing membrane first to prevent and possible damage to the sub-floor and to act as a disconnect between the sub-floor and the mortar bed? Shouldn't the screw holes be elogated to keep from cracking the shower base should there be any flex?

@geno617 11 месяцев назад

Great video, very informative and thanks for sharing.

@JustineAmos 9 месяцев назад

"I'm not big on safety but im not stupid..." 😂

@mattl1758 2 года назад

You’re One of the best to watch on RU-vid because of you I did my first chat tile job and it turned out great. Can’t wait to see the rest of these thanks for sharing

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Awesome! Thank you!

@davo912 Год назад

sure..he put sand mix on top of the wood floor..sure the best lol what happens if the shower pan is leaks lol

@pl6935 Год назад

the wood will suck the moisture out of the concrete and shrink.

@nameme9652 9 месяцев назад

Hello Jeff. Thanks for the informative video. My question is what if the floor was concrete and level, do we still have to use sand mix? Or we can just install it as it is. Thanks a lot.

@dad1432 6 месяцев назад

I'm not Jeff, but the short answer is Yes. Every pro I know uses a mortar base. It prevents flexing, even if a very heavy person uses the shower. Remember, flexing eventually leads to cracks and leaks. It's minimal expense and reasonably easy.

@trentharlan9884 Год назад

Can you use the sand mix method on a basement concrete floor without applying any kind of floor prep

@photodb Год назад

If you were doing this on concrete, what would you use instead of the sand? Mortar? Thx!

@davideccles5295 2 года назад

Hopefully that vinyl flooring is asbestos free :) There's lots of old vinyl flooring that isn't!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

no worries that building was rebuilt after a fire in 1980 so we are all asbestos free. Cheers!

@quintongreen9970 10 месяцев назад

What if installing in basement on concrete? Use sand mix still without a primer?

@Geee6 Год назад

Hello, does the hardiebacker rest slightly above and inside the shower pan or does the hardiebacker rest behind the shower pan lip that is screwed into the studs?

@canadude6401 2 года назад

Hi Jeff, First of all, I want to say thanks so much for your uploads! I am DIY most of my basement right now here in Toronto and all these videos have given me lotsa tricks! In shopping for a shower base, what should I be looking for? User reviews? Material composition? The brand "Dreamline" from Home Depot seem to get excellent reviews. Any brands I should look for (or avoid) or you recommend? Thanks!

@B.Ritchie1974 Месяц назад

You sound like RED from red green show. 😂😂😂

@jenkins1979 2 года назад

Great video,thank you The hole under my shower pan is bigger than the one you made .Will that cause a problem?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

shouldn't. they are designed to be pretty sturdy. The sand mix is just to provide a little extra stuff to keep it from making noises while walking on it.

@LorneAdams-o8f 8 месяцев назад

Hi Jeff, What is the name of the leveling product you bought at Home Depot? I cant see the name on the bag.

@vanessap8717 2 года назад

Many professionals say the mortar should be as dry as can be to prevent shrinking so it doesn’t pull away from the bottom of the pan, because then there’s no point as it’s not supporting the pan.

@canadude6401 2 года назад

I was thinking the same. Like maybe pizza dough or peanut butter consistency. However, this is a sand mix, not mortar so I think his yogurt consistency will be good.

@kylehoyland 8 месяцев назад

Isnt plummers putty better for the shower drain?

@Shpan6066 9 месяцев назад

Anything wrong with using type S motor?

@shuppy100 Год назад

Do I need that mortar for on a concrete basement rough it?

@sblack48 Год назад

If you are tiling the bathroom do you put this down before tile or after? If after would you put the pan on top of the tile or tile around it?

@chick3nnuggg3ts Год назад

Guessing you have already found your answer but this before. when you tile it goes over were he put the screws.

@paulstephens9274 Год назад

Jeff your the best! Hey setting a 60x30 Dreamline pan 2nd floor on plywood floor. Apparently setting sand mix required sloped 1” around to 3/8” @ drain on right side. Questions- can I somehow retrofit a linear drain hypothetically 24”-26 wide. Thinking would need cut into the acrylic pan though. Would be cool if possible but would void pans warranty surely. On that note, they claim not being able tile directly onto pan or lbuild wall or bench on the curb. I wanted to do a pony wall up bout 42” in bout 30” from valve wall. Would do glass above joining 30” door hinged on end wall plus help block looking at toilet while showering. Perhaps a 2x6 wall half built to subfloor half laying on curb aiding distributing weight. Suppose a guy could lay it on metal bracket nailed to subfloor reaching over curb then silicone the joint. Both sides be tiled continuing tile behind toilet and vanity. How would you go about adding a bench or two in back corners. Should a corbel be used? Then would be integrating large mosaic niche in center of back wall. Or construct 30” x? Or a Bench attached to end wall though glass door be attached to curb. Suppose easy way be utilizing removable teak chair/bench .. lastly ,so much for the couple questions:) - adding soffit above shower integrating a light/fan or whatever cool gadgets you can think of Thanks Jeff 😊

@vettepwr23 2 месяца назад

Hi. Did you ever install your Dreamline pan? I have a 32 x 60 one that I am about to install. I got all of the same info from Dreamine like you but that can provide a specific brand other than use a sand mix.

@TuanNguyen-yl3ms Год назад

Thanks u sir❤

@cdb989 2 года назад

Would the same technique apply to a basement concrete floor.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

yes!

@genen.7370 Год назад

What brand of shower pens is that

@TheBostonstapler 2 года назад

as a plumber, WHY does everyone build studs in the center of rough in faucets!!! errrr . Nice video, well done, sandmix is indeed almost a necessity for those flimsy shower pans. The worst are the ones with a foam insert.

@nmatthew7469 2 года назад

True, those things are flimsy, the one piece showers too, dang things crack then you have to do the spray foam Bondo fiberglass fix.

@TheBostonstapler 2 года назад

@@nmatthew7469 one piece I find to be not so bad, its better than the yogourt container made shower walls you have to silicone in place, lolol

@jboyd85 2 года назад

So that you can notch them, obviously ;)

@rafaelmartinez5753 Год назад

Do you have this serie in spanish?

@AaronCunningham 2 года назад

Wish I would have waited 3 more days to install my shower pan 😭

@stevencuellarart9495 2 года назад

Where is episode 10?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

coming out saturday!

@Wolf-rg7ih 8 дней назад

I will never hire this guy 😂

@HughJassill 2 года назад

I’ve been telling my boss to do it this way for YEARS and he still insists it isn’t necessary. Haven’t had a callback in over 10 years but every time a pan creaks during installation my butthole puckers and I give him a dirty look.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

amazing how folks can get used to accepting lower quality.

@canadude6401 2 года назад

Sand mix is cheap and it's only an extra 30 minutes of labour (15 if you work fast!). This is why so many of us are DIY, because we take the time to do things right and not just the most profitable route.

@Wolf-rg7ih 8 дней назад

Never showed how to connect the drain. In HIS CAse He has access from the floor below. , but what if you installing in the BASEMENT OVER CONCRETE FLOOR

@billsmith9249 2 года назад

One of the few youtube channels I follow and even fewer that I know I can 'thumbs up' before I even watch the video!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Cheers Bill!

@bradnakamura1345 Месяц назад

Do you have a video installing a shower pan to basement concrete floor? Thanks.

@Karateka1 2 года назад

I love your videos Jeff, always learn a lot from you, please keep creating and uploading this great content, thanks! 😊👍🙏

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Thanks, will do!

@ilseizi 2 года назад

I always love your video's Jeff. The church video's are fun. Can't wait to see what the future holds.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Mee too. Cheers!

@mbarton36 Год назад

I found if you don’t have a massive pair of pliers you can use one of those oil filter wrenches to tighten that plastic nut on the drain assembly.

@misslerhin1785 2 года назад

Love your videos! We purchased a split level a while back and converted it into basement apartment and upstairs main level. We remodeled the basement, but it was a quick, mostly cosmetic make over everywhere, only had to convert existing wet bar into a full kitchen... That was my first ever backsplash tile job and I think it looks great for first time 😅😉 Thank you! Now we want to tackle on the upstairs (cuz I am sick of the 90's look we have) and one of the projects I want to do is expanding master bath into the master room and closet in order to add the laundry in there (plenty of space to eat in)... These videos give me much needed inspiration and courage to get working on my remodel 😁👌 THANK YOU!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

It is our pleasure.

@Sticky_the_DJ 2 года назад

Really looking forward to this series. I’m currently trying to work my way through redoing my basement bathroom. I have been dreading the shower portion a bit. I have piping already from the ground to use. I just hope there is a way to get a pan that fits the hole?? Not sure if that’s a thing, I haven’t done much shopping around yet, I know they have pre-cut holes in some you can buy but not sure if it will fit what I need yet. May do some measurements tonight… I have to redo the water piping first though so not rushing.

@snowwalker9999 2 года назад

This is probably the best most informative home renovation channel. But I will say it again. The filming is not great. It does not show us everything we need to see. Please take it as a constructive criticism.

@pastrami00 Год назад

Can you put mortar or thinset directly on OSB like that?

@mattgingrich4781 3 месяца назад

Great video! What do you do for 1/4” shower flange and 1/2” drywall? Wouldn’t you have an offset when installing the walls?

@dkuemp 6 месяцев назад

@HomeRenoVisionDIY hey Jeff what would you do in a situation where your shower flange is 1/4 and you have 1/2 board on top. Is there something to put over the flange to make it flush with your wall?

@kuyang7743 2 месяца назад

Hi Jeff. Do we need a liner if installing a shower pan? I’m renovating my shower that’s on concrete.

@rp9869 5 месяцев назад

No tarpaper or anything between the wood and cement??? Wood absorb the moisture?

@neilsolano8874 4 месяца назад

Hey Jeff, does the sand mix need roofing paper underneath like the mortor and cement mixes do?

@smashinggaming336 Год назад

Do i need something similar for going on concrete? I have a rough in basement bathroom and installing shower stall and toilet. Was wondeting if i need the thin set or sand as well. It seemed not to creak, i still have to check if its level at least.

@thevlogsofdab8630 3 месяца назад

Wondering this too, did you ever find out?

@smashinggaming336 3 месяца назад

@@thevlogsofdab8630 no never found out. But did find out that the toilet and shower are never installed far enough away so 90% of the time you have to dig up the shower drain and move it a couple inches. So I ended up leaving it for now.

@CCM416 2 года назад

What if there is an existing hole, and not sure if your new shower pan will match the location?

@brainblasta2 2 года назад

I needed this 4 months ago. I am almost done renovating my bathroom from a weird layout with 2 separate vanities, 60’s tile shower, and toilet to a 4 piece with a Duravit shower pan and free standing tub. Hired plumbers to do the rough in’s and had them do install on tub and shower because I didn’t know anything about installing them. Turns out they knew even less. Guess they were only qualified for leaks and clogs. I knew enough (and could read install sheet) that mentioned a mortar bed under the pan but didn’t give any details. I was hoping plumbers would know more. They did bare minimum of mortar underneath but at least the duravit pan is heavy, maybe 60-80 lbs and mostly self supporting. The mortar I hope is mostly to keep it from moving so I hope they put enough so I’m not dealing with a mess in 5 years.

@mantookhor 2 года назад

Awsome! I was waiting for this video for a while, as a rookie I needed this video to build a washroom in my basement Thank you as always.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Glad I could help!

@marksullivan57 2 года назад

I like the way you guys slow your videos down and explain in detail everything with out all that music and flying through it , nice job

@thankgodimouttahere 2 месяца назад

I only have 26 inches from the wall and all pans I can find have 30 inch depth. Are there 26 inch depth pans out there?

@willnicholson7169 2 месяца назад

Maybe you could buy one of those styrofoam shower bases/pans from Schluter (or similar)? Then you could cut it down to fit. Pretty sure I saw that you could do this.

@donnaanderson3857 2 года назад

I may not do my own shower in my bathroom, BUT I will know what type of person to use. One that knows about sand set. (I'll re-watch it later with CC.) Thanks.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Cheers Donna!

@albertschmidt7430 Год назад

Instead of sand mix or mortar would you be able to use self leveler and let that set up before putting the shower pan in? That would create a perfectly level surface for the shower to sit on

@robertblake1032 Год назад

They don’t really work like that. Unless you have a dam around your pour area and mix 3 or four gallons, pour it ,screed , then walk away.

@Sheltercvt 2 года назад

Can you do a video on installing heated floors in a bathroom? Btw, I'm new here, and your amazing. Thank you for these videos! I have no men in the family to teach me these things, and I'm a big diyer. Thank you! ❤️

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Hi Kristi! we have a couple vids on that. my favorite way is with ditra heat. cable in membrane system. simply go to the home page and find the magnifying glass to type in a search topic. If you search ditra heat you will find a couple vids about heating systems. Cheers!

@lafos4914 Год назад

Thank you thank you thank you!!! I’ve had to become a DIYr and this is 1st time I’m having to redo a bathroom/and shower due to poor tile installation hired by prior owner, which revealed a leak after my 1st shower. Not only have you shown all the key details needed, but have given me the confidence to know I CAN indeed do this - at least the basics to prep for our plumber’s portion that I am not comfortable tackling; and eliminating the dread I’ve been feeling bc I must do as much as possible to save us money bc of endless issues we’ve been clobbered with here. Again, a gazillion thanks! 🤗

@flipfinance Год назад

I am in the exact same boat... right down to the leak. Bathroom is down to the studs right now. Good luck!

@bwiseok 2 месяца назад

So you’re putting the shower pan up against a 2 x 4 wall construction without any sheet rock? And I also have noticed that you didn’t put any kind of barrier on the floor before you try out that stuff out? Other videos had mentioned how the wood floor with suck up the water out of that thin set.

@huma1000 Месяц назад

The sheetrock gets put on afterwards. If you have sheetrock on already due to a reno, you should cut the bottom out a little so that the pan screws directly to the studs. Most pans are designed to have sheetrock above them, but not behind them if that makes sense. Then your poly sheeting walls have the proper drip lines into the pan. As for the thinset onto wood. I'm not sure, but I wonder if that's why he used the sand product and not true thinset

@bwiseok Месяц назад

@@huma1000 yes that makes sense

@zigforjustice 2 года назад

I'm in a similar situation with expanding a 2-piece to 3-piece. Will need to cut through concrete (split level on slab). But I think you have one of those videos already dealing with that. This was super helpful and freakishly relevant.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Cheers!

@aaudain1 2 года назад

You got that 👍😎🤚👏

@addammadd 2 года назад

I love how you’ll do what all contractors do, use the tool that’s close to hand and then have the grace to point it out, explain why you did it, and roll TF on.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

Get er done!

@tonyd1149 Год назад

Kindly, drain fitting: ¿why silicone vs plumber's putty on its underside? (My plumber's putty did leak after a while [~10 yrs] on the upstairs shower unit (plumber installed drain fitting). (I wish I could hire you). Thank you for your videos. God[Bible] Bless you.

@DaniloSantos-ug4ny 2 года назад

I was waiting for this video, please post part 3 soon. Thank you!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY 2 года назад

You got it! Is Saturday soon enough. Cheers!

@grantstanley5168 6 месяцев назад

I have seen videos using a membrane of plastic or roofing paper placed on the wood floor then the sand mix/cement placed on top of this material. Others apply the sand mix/mortar directly onto the wood floor to level out shower base. Are there any benefits for either application? Does it really matter?

@johnrga Год назад

Hi Jeff. I got a price of $17,800 to put acrylic walls on my little 36x42 shower stall. I would like to do this myself but I can’t find an acrylic shower pan or walls. Any leads would be very much appreciated. I live in SC.

@Kevinbaconator_ Год назад

The taps with the mallet are to lightly adjust the slop to better fit your pan, correct? Does the weight of the pan itself do most of the work setting it into the mix? or do i need to add a little pressure?

@ashleym.9682 7 месяцев назад

9:37 if you get black marker all over your shower pan, use 90% rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol) to wipe it off.

@ondrejkovac2157 11 месяцев назад

Thx for this video. will be help full with my shower installation for sure. Anyway I have an one practical question. do I have to install shower base on concrete or install sub floor first? I'm doing basement development. Thank you for recommendation.

@jonlukas3483 10 месяцев назад

I am planning to install a corner shower in a 1950 home with a crawlspace replacing a tub. Any suggestions.

@SafWanDo 8 месяцев назад

Hey Jeff, Wouldn’t the sandmix be floating on the wood floor because it doesn’t stick to it?

@TapelessDrywallFinishing 2 года назад

👍👍

@michaeldalessio4038 8 месяцев назад

Love your videos. Options for replacing fiberglass pan with a slightly larger pan. ????

@mrscoot1 Год назад

If you are installing drainline to shower after can you measure your down drainline and go ahead and install it to drain before you set pan? That way you can just glue in pea trap and connect to main drain line! So you do not have to fight with pipe connection after installation! This will only work with new construction and if you have room! Or will this not work or cause a problem?

@johnchales1825 4 месяца назад

Hi ,sorry for my ignorance,where can get that bug of sent mix to seat the shower pan,great video

@YT-User1013 2 года назад

Wait, I just watched another video where you used Speedset fortified thinset mortar to install a shower pan. Now I’m not sure which to use. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@stevereese1943 2 года назад

"instead of using thinset, like you would for cement" are you suggesting that you can't use thinset in this application or simply that it just isn't ideal. I fully understand why this sandmix is better, just wondering why thinset would/wouldnt work

@schnitzel2k3 Год назад

Alright, I took your advice setting the tripwire claymore. It worked great for keeping the shower pan level, but now I'm on the run for murder.

@Geee6 Год назад

Hello, does the hardiebacker rest slightly above and inside the shower pan or does the hardiebacker rest behind the shower pan lip that is screwed into the studs?

@Kevinbaconator_ Год назад

you make stuff look so easy and simple. how dare you give me confidence to spend more money!

@HansKlossJ23 Год назад

Isn't the flat metal bracket for helping out with tightening the drain, why didn't you use it?

@ljcooil87 2 года назад

Hi, watch all of your videos & have been doing a similar line of work under someone for several years. Thinking of going on my own and was wondering what your thoughts were on a property maintenance course, which gives a qualification and bit of experience in carpentry, plumbing, plastering, tiling ect.. Is it worth the price tag of like 2000 for such a course?

@toney_tone2906 4 месяца назад

What happened to getting the screw drivers in there lol 😂 I think he’s learning as he goes

@JCC56 Год назад

Shower bases are great, but aligning/reworking the p trap plumbing is not easy for typical DIYer.

@kylefafnis Год назад

Actually, you should wear 10 N95 masks, don't want to catch covid.

@DuncanGlendinning 7 месяцев назад

Great video! Can you explain why you didn't put felt paper under the cement?

@OTPLAYLIST Год назад

Does the Sandmix anchor the shower pan or just for leveling purpose? Thanks

@noahschmidt9076 Год назад

I have been watching a lot of your videos lately and been going back to the older videos because I am going to frame out and completely make a bathroom in an unused space. My question is do you have a video on installing a linear drain shower system?

@infinitefire7212 2 года назад

Do you think it’s a good idea to tile a bathroom with porcelain tile, from ceiling to floor all the away around? I live in a row home & im concerned about the amount of weight the joist/walls can hold…