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How To Invest in Bonds in 2024 (from T-Bills to High Yield) 

Value Investing with Sven Carlin, Ph.D.
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@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
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@elsemuller2460
@elsemuller2460 9 месяцев назад
I understand why YOU are not investing in bonds, but what about people who are much older? Even in retirement? Should they risk a downturn in the stock market if they get high yields for much saver bonds? Especially if they have enough savings to live of the returns ( estimated withdrawal rate 3-4%) I know the statistics say: stock market crashes only last 2 to 3 years, but didn't it take more than a decade from 2000 onwards to recover?
@erikklootwijk8044
@erikklootwijk8044 9 месяцев назад
The Buffett bit was an eye-opener. Did not realize he's just letting his money sit & sit & sit in treasuries this much, and strike massively when he has an opportunity of sees a fire-sale. Ultra-defensive and more importantly, not stupid.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
he is all about long-term protection
@therighteous802
@therighteous802 9 месяцев назад
That's a bit misleading, as it doesn't account for the businesses they own entirely. Probably a better picture is cash % of market cap. Also, they need cash for insurance, as you don't want to be a forced seller of stocks at a bad time. So... Take youtubers with a grain of salt, I follow Sven for years and he's never been bullish on the market as a whole.
@pavolmoney
@pavolmoney 9 месяцев назад
They asked him why he didn't invest the 20% uninvested part in the S&P500 and he answered. :)
@adamel-kerdi689
@adamel-kerdi689 9 месяцев назад
This is very missleading in my opinion showing the Cash Position of Warren. Bershere has a huge insurance Business and they Need to have a big Cash Position if they are on the hook he even said that in his Anual shareholder Meeting. Still nice video 👍
@bibbidi_bobbidi_bacons
@bibbidi_bobbidi_bacons 6 месяцев назад
He owns an insurance company
@MAchannel2024
@MAchannel2024 9 месяцев назад
In US, vanguard pays 5.3% on cash. Fidelity 5% I also buy treasury auction bonds on both platforms In US, US treasury bonds, only have to pay federal taxes, no state and local taxes.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing!
@leswhynin913
@leswhynin913 9 месяцев назад
One thing to keep in mind is that Berkshire is practically limited to investing in large and mega cap companies
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
that is correct!!!
@kroubian
@kroubian 9 месяцев назад
I understand that treasury sales are getting tough, as there are relatively fewer takers for the new offerings, so if the gov't wants to be able to sell, they must offer attractive yields, and that places an upward pressure on interest rates.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
that is correct!
@maxjames00077
@maxjames00077 9 месяцев назад
Yup, i saw a couple youtube videos on this and i'm definitely wondering what kind of rates we will see in 2024 on the bonds
@axelnowaczyk
@axelnowaczyk 9 месяцев назад
Sven, good video like always. I also use IB. Just a note, this 4.8 % is not actually 4.8 %. For the first 10k it is 0%. Because of that for me it is better to buy T-Bills ;)
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing!!!
@SergiMedina
@SergiMedina 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! I never "invested" in bonds and I'm not even sure how to do it. I just try to keep invested in the best asset ever: stocks. And have some dry powder just in case, most of them are quite overvalued right now! But there are always opportunities somewhere...
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
thanks!
@manuelpablollosa7682
@manuelpablollosa7682 6 месяцев назад
Hi Sven, thanks for the video! I find myself looking at bonds. What do you think about Corporate Bonds ETFs like the VCIT?
@bigmuff4839
@bigmuff4839 9 месяцев назад
Maybe one thing to add for newer investors who watch this video. Warren has so much capital that his spectrum for investable companies is very limited, as smaller purchases wouldn't move the needle. Thus, parking the money like Sven mentioned might be his only option for now as most large caps are currently rather expensive. If you consider the capital combined with the often mentioned circle of competence there are not many companies left and he has no choice but to wait for the right price. Our universe is much larger.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
absolutely, thanks for sharing!
@yanivpete
@yanivpete 9 месяцев назад
Looking back 2 years stocks are now mostly unchanged (SP500) , but T-bills are up ~7%. I know I cherrypicked the time period, but a lot of people are surprised when I note this. I wouldn't be surprised if stocks continue to go up and down with no net direction for a while longer as earnings catch up to prices. Like you mentioned , short term bonds aren't a bad place now to "hang out and wait". Like Buffet.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
the most likely outlook for stocks is zero for a very long time, so T-bills should beat them onward by far...
@Peter-cl5cd
@Peter-cl5cd 9 месяцев назад
You can also get 4% with European Money Market ETFs which are replicating ECB deposit interests by investing in ultra short bonds. I prefer that instead of longterm german bonds
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
good idea, thanks for sharing!
@elsemuller2460
@elsemuller2460 9 месяцев назад
Would you also prefer money market fond if you can get 4% from your broker or bank? If so can you explain why?
@Peter-cl5cd
@Peter-cl5cd 9 месяцев назад
@@elsemuller2460 it depends on the conditions and your personal risk profil, especially on how long the offer of the broker/ bank is valid. Often half a year and then it is reduced to 2% etc. Also, often the amount of money you can park at some brokers is limited and insured "only" up to 100k€. In such money market ETFs it is basically unlimited and it doesn't matter if your bank/broker goes bankrupt as these ETFs are special assets just like stocks.
@andriiboik523
@andriiboik523 9 месяцев назад
Is it good strategy to buy TLT now and sell after few fed rate cuts?
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
if the rate cuts happen faster than expected, and if those happen
@idontnowachannelname
@idontnowachannelname 9 месяцев назад
coming back from the war in Gaza and relaxing to one of your videos is a real treat, thanks!
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
good to hear but sorry about the war
@Alpharizzchad
@Alpharizzchad 8 месяцев назад
​@@Value-InvestingHe bought Gaza oil and Gas stock 😅😅
@TidusVen
@TidusVen 9 месяцев назад
Great video Sven. Just like you mentioned, bonds are also good for speculation. I remember a couple of years ago buying 2 ETFs on $corporate bonds and $HY bonds, and my gains were only due to conversion rate. I learnee my lesson, but not before cashing in some gains 🤑.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing!
@RafitoMembroza
@RafitoMembroza 9 месяцев назад
There is also a lot of value in corporate bonds. Non-ESG companies making plenty of cash, like petrol and gas and shipping companies that do not have good access to money because they are dirty, offer really high yields for 2-3 years bonds. Prosus for example, have attractive bonds, and they could sell their shares to pay back bondholders. You can get a 7-10% yield, it's really nice. The only disadvantage is that most of the time, the nominal value is $10k/$100k for a bond.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
I see the yield at Prosus at 5.7%, which is not bad, but also not stellar...
@RafitoMembroza
@RafitoMembroza 9 месяцев назад
@@Value-Investing Prosus N.V. 4,85% with maturity in 2027, according to the current price, is yielding 6.26%. Yes, it's not stellar, but it's good considering the low risk. The minimum investment amount is 200k €, though!
@elsemuller2460
@elsemuller2460 9 месяцев назад
@@RafitoMembrozaBetting with a large amount of money on one company instead of being diversified is n e v e r low risk. Even if Sven Carlin doesn't like ETFs he recommended them here.
@RafitoMembroza
@RafitoMembroza 9 месяцев назад
@@elsemuller2460 If you move a couple of millions, then $100k for a bond is not being concentrated. The risk also depends on the assets they have and how liquid they are
@Inquisitive9
@Inquisitive9 7 месяцев назад
I am in Canada, and I wonder if now is a good time to cash some of the equties gains and put them in individual bonds, or Bonds funds / ETFs. I am of the view to buy a mid to long-term bond fund , so if the yields drop over the next couple of years, the valuation will improve and result in capital gains. Does it make sense?
@rangouel
@rangouel 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing the wise view of thinking that you have
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for listening
@gabrielepillitteri
@gabrielepillitteri 9 месяцев назад
Thank you Sven! I was wondering: at 9:00 you showed the fixed income market dynamics. Why an increase of 1% in interest rates could cause a positive total return in Convertibles, U.S. HY or Leveraged Loans? I was thinking about negative convexity, but I don't think so.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
did I say something wrong? An increase would cause a decrease in returns and vice versa
@erikm9768
@erikm9768 5 месяцев назад
I just want some asset to park my liquidity short term while looking for a new stock investment opportunity, perhaps 3-6 months, with a decent yield as my trading account doesnt offer any interest and i'm not able to move money in and out without creating a lot of tax. Is this a good way to use US T-bonds or am i lost?
@Michael_NV
@Michael_NV 9 месяцев назад
This is looong expecting explanation. Thank you Sven.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
Great to hear!!
@elrevesyelderecho
@elrevesyelderecho 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! Highly appreciate lecture!
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@roelandreijtenbagh5196
@roelandreijtenbagh5196 9 месяцев назад
Great video! I hold some cash on a MMF and in a shorterm (accumulating) T bill ETF (ETF is in $ unfortunately). I bought some LVMH shares with excess cash. Can you maybe make a video about LVMH? 20 pe and 20% CAGR of profit growth that is what Peter Lynch would call a bargain.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
fashion and luxury is not my circle of competence :-(
@brandonshoosh8130
@brandonshoosh8130 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing. What are your thoughts on TLT - ishares 20 year treasury bond etf?
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 8 месяцев назад
if rates go down, you make money, if not, you don't make much with inflation - long term, you will likely lose purchasing power
@Ravencroft81
@Ravencroft81 9 месяцев назад
In Belgium the government sold a 5 yr at 1.83% net and an 8 yr at 2.03% net last december. They did this to encourage banks to increase their interest rates on savings deposits. 22 Billion EUR went from the banks to the goverment. Especially the wealthy took advantage of the 15% withholdingstax compared to the normal 30% on dividends. the average investor bought in for 34000 EUR. So knowing most normal people only bought for a couple thousand you know rich people saw an opportunity to park their money and dodge some taxes.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing!
@drewshegda34
@drewshegda34 9 месяцев назад
Thank you Sven as always!
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
thank you!
@Lvshwllsh
@Lvshwllsh 9 месяцев назад
Sven, what do you think about Money market ETF?
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
It is all cash alike things! Nothing wrong, but nothing spectacular
@Lvshwllsh
@Lvshwllsh 9 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@MatteoClos
@MatteoClos 6 месяцев назад
What about Emerging market bonds?
@deehendon4204
@deehendon4204 6 месяцев назад
I hold 70 % in 4, 8, 26 week t-bills. What most don’t know is you can select ( check) the reinvestment box and automatically roll over the short term bills. So my 4 week bill becomes 26 week bill, at a higher rate. If I need to I can take off the roll at any time. Sweet!
@jamesclark5097
@jamesclark5097 9 месяцев назад
Any thoughts on U.S. agency bonds e.g. TVA?
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
check the risk of going bankrupt, but it seems stable, thus inflation is the key thing to watch!
@percussionandmore
@percussionandmore 9 месяцев назад
Hihi, what is your opinion on EUR Hedged ETFs on short term US-Treasuies ? I Have not found a 0-1yr hedged ETF but 1-3year comparison for example. Overall, whats your take on hedged ETF investments?
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
I don't know, likely the fees are there too for the offering, thus to me it doesn't pay to play with such instruments for a 100 basis point difference
@percussionandmore
@percussionandmore 9 месяцев назад
@Value-Investing At least the iShares USD Treasury Bond 1-3yr UCITS ETF EUR Hedged (Acc) ETF (IE00BDFK1573) shows total expence ratios of 0,1% , while having an effective effective interest yield of 4,31% , the real payed coupon of 2,37% for average maturity of ~2years. So still rather limited interest rate risk. Not the meantioned 5% in the Us, but still more than the overnight rate of 3,9% (e.g. Xtrackers II EUR Overnight Rate Swap UCITS ETF 1C) you could achive within the EUR- Room
@focus168168
@focus168168 8 месяцев назад
In 2022 to 2023, it is logical to buy short-term Tbills if you are expecting higher interest rates in the future. This is to prevent you from locking in the low yields of long-term bonds and indirectly preventing a paper loss in the bond values when new bond are yielding higher. In 2024, how should you be positioning? I would think it would be to buy long term bond yields if you are expecting interest rate to trend down significantly over the next 2 years.
@garyallen5574
@garyallen5574 5 месяцев назад
I am not understanding why anyone would expect interest rates to trend down significantly.
@joel6427
@joel6427 5 месяцев назад
UFB is paying 5.25%. Any reason not to park money there?
@zekevfab
@zekevfab 9 месяцев назад
My 401k does only allow me to invest in short term bonds, long term bonds, S&P500 and international stock fund…. So no choice for me than invest in short term bonds at current prices 😢
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
it is what it is!
@bersaglio-i2b
@bersaglio-i2b 7 месяцев назад
hi sven, could you do the same for the euro area?
@comanu350r
@comanu350r 9 месяцев назад
Hi Sven have you got any thought about MDC and the acquisition from the Japanese??
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
don't know, not following
@ivanmendez8260
@ivanmendez8260 9 месяцев назад
Sven please, make an analysis of Daqo New Energy. It’s right now egregiously undervalued. 3B net cash and 1.5B market cap
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
thanks for suggesting!
@PeterGraham-l9e
@PeterGraham-l9e 8 месяцев назад
Grazie Sven!
@dx3354
@dx3354 8 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 8 месяцев назад
thanks!!!
@tacocruiser4238
@tacocruiser4238 8 месяцев назад
Junk bonds are a safer investment than the Russell 2000 index. Most small-cap companies are already either unprofitable or deeply in debt. At least with junk bonds, you are more likely to get your money back. I will take a junk bond over a junk stock every time.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 8 месяцев назад
thank for sharing
@yustdream0204
@yustdream0204 9 месяцев назад
which ETF for short term bond
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
just search, the shortest have the highest yield but that can change
@Randal-p3z
@Randal-p3z 7 месяцев назад
Is that a B stock or C stock? Berkshire hathawayz?
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 7 месяцев назад
there is A and B, 1 A is 1500 B
@Tmortal
@Tmortal 9 месяцев назад
Great video! What is your opinion on leveraged long term treasury TMF ETF for this year?
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
those are daily plays, thus play only if you can predict where will rates go... on a daily basis
@vicentecabrera9245
@vicentecabrera9245 9 месяцев назад
You didn’t give high yield bonds justice. The quality of companies by coverage ratios and earnings is great vs history, with 8-9% yield on average next 12 months has a 92% chance of being positive with a median return of 10.6%. The chart you showed didn’t include distributions. In 2023 high yield bonds returned 12-15%. I have been buying high yield and expect to hold 2-5 years and average 8-10% return. I work at a major bank and the economists as well as other banks believe the same thing.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing
@n4870s
@n4870s 9 месяцев назад
30/70 portfolio :D
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
:-)
@martinithechobit
@martinithechobit 9 месяцев назад
Thanks yall.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
:-)
@monikadidluch767
@monikadidluch767 9 месяцев назад
What are your favorite treasury bill ETF, ?
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
As said, I don't invest in bonds!
@Eline_Meijer
@Eline_Meijer 9 месяцев назад
The way I see it is that if The U.S Government was a company, would I invest in it? Would I invest in corruption, mismanagement, money printing and woke ideology? No, I wouldn't. There are better businesses out there. Thanks for the video Sven.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
:-)))
@oldhickory4686
@oldhickory4686 9 месяцев назад
That's how I view it too. Might as well be investing money in the mafia, because it's the same thing.
@Eline_Meijer
@Eline_Meijer 9 месяцев назад
@@oldhickory4686 100%
@NormaVela-k3k
@NormaVela-k3k 2 месяца назад
😂 "I was one year old,I didnt look at US bond back there"😂
@bigmuff4839
@bigmuff4839 9 месяцев назад
Sounds like you have a cold. Get well soon!
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
already much better thanks!
@barryallen6927
@barryallen6927 8 месяцев назад
False - Berkshire's 30% is not in T-bills. They also manage 700B of wholly owned businesses. That puts the % of T-bills as 12% of Berkshire's portfolio. That is close to their high end of historic cash pile but not all time high. Yes market is overvalued, but not overly so. The top 10 companies are still making profit and earnings are improving. This is not some 2000 bubble where the top 10 companies are unprofitable clown companies.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 8 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing, here I discussed just the cash and stocks part, not businesses.
@dixter1652
@dixter1652 4 месяца назад
if you know what your doing you can get a Treasury at 7.625%... you can buy Occidental like buffet with 8.8% coupon.... there are others that are good upto 10%.... whats wrong with making money
@Philip8888888
@Philip8888888 9 месяцев назад
Just a remark that the first $10'000 in IBKR earns no interest. So it is better that you invest it. Easiest way is to not buy bonds directly, but via and ETF e.g. BIL for short term bills.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing!
@thailandistheshitman
@thailandistheshitman 9 месяцев назад
Sven what about Ali baba
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
everything is down in China, so is BABA
@deehendon4204
@deehendon4204 6 месяцев назад
If interest rates on the long bond rose you lose, plus fees and commissions. Treasury direct doesn’t allow you trade long bonds before maturity.
@uncomplicatedi
@uncomplicatedi 9 месяцев назад
1. US Fed SETS its own interest rate 2. US Fed is sovereign currency issuer is not exposed to interest rate risk 3. All interest rates are premiums on central bank rates. Please emphasize to your watchers that central bank watchers are right and nobody can understand the public money system without understanding that govt spending creates all the $ in your accounts and govt has no limit on spending except the need to discipline markets by jacking interest rates.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
Yes, as long as it works, unfortunately it never did last
@jackgoldman1
@jackgoldman1 9 месяцев назад
Sven, everyone knows stocks are where to be. How many know gold has outperformed stocks for the past 23 years by 100%. Stocks are up 300%, gold is up 600%, roughly. In other words, holding money, cash, gold, has outperformed stocks. Measuring back to 1801 is disingenuous because gold was fixed until 1971. From 1971, gold has performed quite well, on par with stocks, up from $35 per ounce to $2,000 per ounce. Also from 1999 low for gold at $255 to $2,000 shows gold outperforms today. Dollars are not money, gold is. money. Dollars are one day bonds paying zero per cent interest. Not a good idea to hold.
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing Jack!
@notnoternexto
@notnoternexto 9 месяцев назад
Jack you are cherry picking data. Stocks have outperformed gold more often than the other way around
@jackgoldman1
@jackgoldman1 9 месяцев назад
Only measured in dollars. There is no real gain measured in gold, honest money. Stocks have not increased in almost 100 years measured in honest gold dollars. The gains are purely due to currency debasement. @@notnoternexto
@Lvshwllsh
@Lvshwllsh 9 месяцев назад
Grazie Sven!
@Value-Investing
@Value-Investing 9 месяцев назад
grazie!
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